You used to play in a big free world exploring it as you pleased, you were a citizen of this world, not its protagonist. In the new expansions, you do cinematically written quests with straight storytelling, where you are one of the protagonists of the whole story. They wanted to make questing more enjoyable, but they took away some of your freedom. There used to be short quest series that involved you in important events. But today, with the exception of a few side quests, the whole expansion is one big quest series.
They could have *easily* fixed that problem with new players being lost on the story, by just having an evergreen scenario that takes you through key points in each expansion. New expansion comes out? Just slap the expansion that just ended to the end of the scenario.
Never thought of that! great idea! a sort of quick catchup story driven mode that explains each expansion while also serving as a leveling process for new players
They are already adding in different quest markers depending on the importance of a quest. They have main scenario quest separated from side stories now, which will make leveling through each expansion with the focus on story so much better. Just playing through MoP Remix with this system is already pretty great, can't wait for it to be added to the rest of the game. If you're leveling multiple characters you could just level through each expansion only doing the main scenario quest, and learn the story that way.
@@olivervision2111I paid a month ago, played for a few days, forgot to cancel, then got charged 14.99 today. It was painful seeing that notification 😂
@@40kNexusyou know blizzard will refund you right? Even if you sub play for 3 days don’t like it they will still refund you.. just because everyone makes out they are some evil money hungry company doesn’t mean they are mate lol
Wrath had a PERFECT balance between grind and progression. I was hoping that the level balance would bring that back. Sadly, I was wrong. My sister played it the first time since Cataclysm and wanted to start on Gilneas- her favorite starting zone. Then she got forced to Exile's Reach and did not like it or the new UI layout.
Wrath was the pinnacle of wow in my opinion. Great storyline, reasonable grinding process, interesting raids, balanced pvp, fun pvp events and nice gearing system.
@@wavy2kKeep in mind im very young, but i genuinely had the most fun with the game with Legion, I didn’t even bother with BFA it looked uninteresting from the start for me. But i genuinely think i would have loved to play Cata when it came out, looks like a fun experience to me
I also burned out around Cataclysm, but after diving back in these past few days, I'm enjoying it. The pace has drastically increased; what used to feel like an eternity to reach level 60 now flies by effortlessly. I think getting flying mounts so early and having map markers for every quest significantly takes away from the sense of exploration. I guess players today just don’t have the patience for that kind of adventure anymore.
I stopped playing 4 months ago and recently just made a request to delete my account. I see no point in coming back and become addicted, wasting my time on a game, been 13 years!! I will remember all the good memories and the friends I’ve made along the way but it’s time to move on
Im not removing the account but im not intrested in war within. I wanted an underground expansion since 20 years but its not what war within is that i wanted.
Deleted my account back when the news came out of how shitty their corporate culture was, to the point of sexual harassment and assault, mistreatment and misogyny. Never looked back.
Played the free weekend with my kid to see if my spark could be rekindled. Euh this will sound harsh, but let's say the spark is now replaced with frustration. I had to vote against my kid being kicked as "bot"
I do miss the old days of WoW but I still have a lot of fun since starting to play again on & off for the last 6 months. One thing I have noticed is that the new cities lack the magic of exploration. I love checking out all the nooks & crannies of every building for no other purpose than to explore. I hope they bring that back in the future. I’ll always love WoW. ❤
As someone who has been playing off and on since wrath I just came back three weeks ago from about 6 months off and I must say with a combination of remix and retail I’m having a blast but I do miss the social aspect of guild guilds nowadays are dead
I agree on the lacking of the social aspect, I think you really have to go out of your way to find that interaction that use to be so abundant back in the day and appeared organically every where you went
I remember lagging from all the players in main cities back in the day. Now with a better computer and a job, checked WoW again and almost not a player in sight. I miss it.
Fun is when I m invested in the world, take it slowly, no numbers and rushing to max, admire the art and just overall goofing around. After all it’s just a game. Unfortunately they forgot that and what they want to do is for kids to become addicts.
I remember when I was playing this game and leveling was such a grind that it was WORTH YOUR WHILE to take a few days off questing and harvest materials to CRAFT your own armour. It was going to be relevant for longer than it took to find the mats. I miss when you would hunt down and do every quest in a zone and not be big enough for the next zone. You would have to travel across the world to a similar level zone and continue leveling there. If they did that now with all the expansions I might come back. I don’t have people to play with or time in my schedule to attend pre arranged raids. As soon as I hit end game my interest fizzled out.
I have not played this game since 2009ish. I used to love it a lot. However, i left once the daily grind (as you pointed out) became a thing if you wanted to maintain your character. If you could post an update on this and other and new additions of these in the new update, that would be great. Ty 😊 Great watch, and thank you for this upload.
Thanks, you ensured me not to get back to this game with constant grinding and rat race. Listning to WoW music having nostalgia in my head from years back is enough.
If you call toxic those who calls you noob, better you stay out of the game. Or if you play it just go collect mogs and mounts, don't get involved in PvP or PvE just to make other people's life harder
The few thing is, I used to be a pretty decent player, subpar in PVP, Heroic but not Mythic Raider. I was playing at that level for like 3 years. Now i just like to log into wow and run around randomly on my trail account, i just love the areas, but i have not went into a battleground or instance in years, but i log in several times a week
Bro gave up way to soon on MoP, lore and storytelling was PEEK that expansion. But great video and good points. I hate their current approach to leveling and how they've given up on any attempt to make it an adventure.
It's still an adventure though, it's what you make it. It's not a 40hr running simulator like lvling through classic, it's a 10hr questing through a couple zones. It's still the same gameplay just faster. The adventure is still there in my opinion.
Agreed, recently reactivated my account . Maybe this is the end of the dark storm clouds looming over Blizzard. I am excited yet still a little worried about the future of WOW I hope they continue to listen to player feedback!
I returned for a while last year (I played from vanilla to WoD before) and I thought retail was noodle soup I. E a total mess of odds and ends. The doesn't feel like a world any more it's just feels like a collection zones.
I haven't played since 2008 just before wotlk my gaming laptop took a dive literally and I've been wanting to build a gaming PC for a very very long time and since I've restarted playing Hearthstone I have a very deep desire to get back on and play
Im on the same issue, recently moved to the U.S and unfortunately all my friends are in Europe, I really want to play the new expansion as i have quit wow the past couple of years, but I don’t want to start a fresh start with a new account and playing all alone on US servers My and my friends played wow together since Burning crusade
@@bomjur it's the same reason most people who played in vanilla, BC and wotlk, we used to grind to earn things as achement, modern wow people don't need to grind or try to work the auction house for gold, it's a p2w feature.
Dragonflight expansion is epic especially for casuals and world pve players. Love it. End game is 1) world content (love it), 2) achievement hunting (love it), pvp (ok), raids (love it), (mythic dung, love it). Fastest way to level is pick 1 expansion and do all quests in each zone, having fun with the story, and unlocking world achievements for the zones you are in. Gives more fun things to do. Before you have done all the expansion zones you should have hit you level to travel to Dragonflight content, but you may wish to finish what you are doing, especially if the main story is uncomplete. Reguardless there is so much fun to be found, but not recommended to jump between the expansions on one character as you won't experience the expansion as it was played when launched.
Dragonflight is the most casual friendly it’s been in YEARS. There is no borrowed power system (Artifact Power, Azerite Power, and Anima). Gearing has never been easier. Weekly’s are entirely optional unless you want some cosmetics. Gear upgrades are extremely easy to get as you can get hundreds of the required currency just doing a normal raid or even a Herod dungeon. Traversal is much easier with Dragon Riding. Wow is in a very good spot and the next expansion seems to much of the same with new endgame content.
I fell for that line, too. I bought the expansion, installed it, but still had to install addons like coordinates and dps meters, neither of which should feel obligatory but still do. Then, came the actual ui changes. Here's where things got bad. None of the classes play the same way I remember with the new talents system and in order for me to even begin to know what class I want to play I need to go over DOZENS OF SPREADSHEETS running mathematical equations about DPS percentages and then run that through practical testing. Just so that I could get a handle on which class I liked, only to realize that this is all still the same game of Simon Says that forces me to watch the actionbars waiting for that next proc instead of the actual game world. Then I got the starting quests which had no real narrative hooks and treated me as though I was a small child. Right after putting me through all of that nonsense with the UI and spreadsheets. Actually, I'm not done talking about the UI and talents. Because all of that Simon Says gameplay really started to make me look for a class that I could play openly and freely like in Classic and there just weren't any. They all play the same way. Just can't afford take my eyes off the bars. I spent 3 days fighting with the talents and the actionbars just to be able to look at the game I was playing at only to find mindless grinding when I was finally able to get that far. It still feels like any other expansion where the game is being made for the top 10% pf competitive players and the bottom 10% who don't even care about any of it in the first place. One of the worst gaming experiences I have ever had.
@@Emidretrauqe I haven't picked up Dragonflight yet as I'm still on the fence about returning. The last time I played was for a couple of months in Shadowlands. But reading your reply you don't sound like a gamer who's used to adding quality of life mods, theorycrafting, or getting a feel for your class - such that you don't have to be looking at your bar all the time. I've been playing Diablo, for example, for over 15 years and you just get into a muscle memory / timing cadence for combat while hitting some special buttons to break crowd control or cleanse or whatever. I honestly can't see it being much different than it used to be, unless things have REALLY changed since I've played last. I probably agree with you about the game's narrative treating you like a child since they're trying to appeal to the broadest of age ranges and that can get annoying. I mean no offense whatsoever about your experience by saying any of this though, everyone has a right to their feelings and experiences and there's nothing wrong with that.
You know, There's nothing boring about Borean ;). Your point is really interesting and I'll be returning in a couple of days becauze I still need to "accomplish" certains things.
I honestly can't pinpoint why I don't like that zone but I always chose howling fjord over it lol, Great to hear about you returning! Let's hope this new expansion is a great addition!
@@DedmundzMMO oh don't worry I agree with you hate it too, that's just the name of the achievement for doing quests there hahaha. "Nothing boring about Borean." 😄
I haven't played since 2021, and decided to try the Pandaria remix. The game looks great and very beautiful, but in my opinion, it's too saturated, there's too much happening on the screen, everything is sparkling and shimmering, and I feel overwhelmed. Unfortunately, this has put me off buying the new expansion (at least for now, will see). Now I'm sitting in Cata, fishing in the evenings, chilling.
Also haven’t played heavily since Cata/MoP. My last login was 2021. I just started playing again last night, and I have to say I’m having just as much fun as I did when I played Vanilla 20 years ago.
@@_Vader_ Even the COD fanboys gave up after release after release of mediocrity. Hopefully for our sake this xpac will be the change Blizz needs to not follow suit in the pattern of mediocrity.
they got me with dragonflight. it looked good and was pretty fun for about 2 weeks til i realized that class balance was not going to be a thing for another expansion.
I miss wow so much. In nowadays, I play board games with my friends at the game club. so I don'"t play too much on pc anymore. Recently I started playing HearthSTone again, and Wow kind of attracts me to join play again just like old times :D
i havent played in 10 years and had nostalgia itch Honestly with chromie i love playing through the old expansions with a new character for each expansion enjoying the story. By the end i will have like bunch a characters that are leveled b4 the last expansion
Good summary, I appreciate it. You did mention “Blizzard” a few times. It’s helpful to know that this is just a name, the people creating this content have nothing to do with the original Blizzard.
We are very OG players, starting with Burning C. and played till the end of Panda, maybe the fact that we turning 40 soon, but i just can't come back no matter how hard i tried... I just don't feel the same fire like in 2008 and i really miss my old buddy's, sad
Legion brought me back to the game and it was like a diamond in the rough, While yes it had the normal wow grindy bits the story and gameplay where very fun! Left before BFA started.
I recently returned...about 3 weeks ago. I hadn't played since the Sylvanas raid when my guild fell apart while pushing through on Mythic. Immediate impression is that it is an overly complicated mess without much focus, but the biggest part of that is because it's at the end of the expansion and there are just a ridiculous amount of currencies and storylines to get lost in. Even after 3 weeks, I'm lost. I've figured out how to get some transmogs and somewhat figured out the new crafting system. I went ahead and did the pre-order for War Within and played a few days in the beta servers. I will say that the fresh start is great to feel like I'm starting back in a similar level as others as well as being caught up on the storyline.
@@DedmundzMMO The gameplay and systems are just basically Dragonflight 2.0, so I'd say if someone liked DF then they'll like The War Within. I am looking forward to playing, but i'm not sure I would say "excited" because it seems they spent a lot of time focusing on certain hero builds and very little time on others. I'm hoping the ones that are lacking get another round of attention before launch.
"it is an overly complicated" my thoughts exactly. I feel like I spent an equal amount of time in game as I spent googling about where should I go and how do I get this and unlock that. And I have a lot of experience in different MMOs. Can't imagine how fresh to the genre player would feel.
My biggest issue was the babying of everything. I spent weeks grinding for various items, mounts, pets, etc, only for the next expansion to make it easy for the next player. It took over a month for an average game time player to hit 60 in vanilla. Today, a fraction of that commitment gets you maxed in TWW (would be 150 without the lvl squish). Pretty disappointing.
I come and go when it comes to WOW. WOW classic did bring me back and I played a lot right up to WOTLK launched. But its been over a year since I played. Thinking about returning.
I switched over to 14 a few years back and I really don't regret it. I will say the nice thing about being a casual player is that I have time to play multiple games now. That's probably the main reason I'll never come back to WoW is that it demands waaaay too much commitment of time with artificial chores essentially forcing you to log in every day.
I was defending WoW since Shadowlands where people started screaming about how WoW is dying... after few years I can calmly say, they were right. I quit 2 times in Dragonflight at least for 6 months and now I'm not even looking for new expansion, not even for Cata or MoP. WoW was about exploring, leveling took much much more longer, but you had a chance to see Azeroth and explore lore, maps, characters etc... now ? Start with lvl10 and jump to the dungeon finder immediately, push to the max level, farm iLvl and run mythic dungeons again and again. It's fun for some time ngl, but sadly it's only thing what you can do (+ raids once per week, and DF raids are boring af, even Supulcher was much more better). I have never seen so huge degradation of game experience ever, before huge goliath between mmo's called World of Warcraft, now cash grab which is not worth it at all, because game is basically empty - compared to Legion, MoP... even mostly hated BfA had more content than SL and DF... great job, I have never seen so huge degradation of game title as here. Pushing 2k rio every season is not enough tho. ADD: Forgot to mention lore, which is now completely out of line, doesn't make sense and you just want to skip it, same as in SL. Milking old characters, crying baby King, dragons (nobody cares them lmao). Compared to old expansions, bosses here are boring, not so evil and you don't even remember their name after two days... where is Arthas, Garrosh, Gul'dan, N'Zoth... ?
I can’t agree more. Old WoW is all about journey. Nowadays Blizaard just wanna put things into your stomach and they don’t care about the taste anymore.
I wish they hadn’t moved through classic so quickly. They should’ve made the expacs 3 years each. We woiuldve gotten 9 years out of the first three, which would’ve been almost as good as having classic-Wotlk back, which was the only time worth playing
i dont even remember the amount of times i quit and returned . also cata ruined it for me big time to . id be lying if i said i didnt quit during pandaria but i actually rly like that expansion . wow it self is boring , i think most people spent so much they have hard time divorcing the game - that does affect me though because blizzard keeps going and i keep coming back even tho i think both ESO and GW2 are superior games .
They could readjust monster and item levels by categorizing each zone from each expansion progressionlike from initial to lategame content, so an endgame dungeon from current patch and an endgame dungeon from, idk, wrath of the lich king, would share similar difficulty and rewards... This way you could experience all content and follow any storyline you please, and you'd also have more replayability and more item variety. If something like that was made, I'd totally return to the game.
I quit around panda came back and then quit after warlords came out.. I see so many cool new things I wished were around when I played like hightower tauren and other sub classes. I have a lot of old legendary items and some old drakes that used to be rare that I wouldn't mind seeing and using again if they still exist. I do want to get back into it and im buying a new gaming pc this month. I don't know if I will be able to resist WoW. it's still to this day the game I had the most fun playing and even if I wasnt "playing" which I did a lot, I would explore and just check out new areas and questlines on the lowest graphics it was still such a cool experience. I am hoping with a updated system, those old feelings will come back..
If I go back to WoW now, it's only to "Chill" doing things like leveling, professions, events, etc. I don't mess with the story anymore and I don't mess with the raids or anything either. The problem is, it's hard to justify the subscription fee for my use case. I usually just chill with my free starter account rather than my main one.
Still to this day my favorite game ever. This is when i played seriously over a decade ago. I first started playing wow relatively shortly before tbc came out and stopped shortly after lich king came out. Just seeing all of the ridiculous expansions over the years made me never want to come back. Such a shame. But im sure its stil fun for some and maybe some day soon i’ll hop back onto my account and run around for a bit then hop back off
People want to just walk around and experience the huge world but then complain that the game feels a waste of time 😂 the game changed. Of course, people! 9 expansions! 20 ys of game! However, in my opinion, people changed too. What made us happy years ago now feels like a waste of time. It's all about productivity and getting to the end as quickly as possible nowadays. Thanks for sharing this video btw man! Appreciated. Subscribed.
I'm playig WOW when it started and quit when motorbikes enter Ogrimmar. I'm gonna play again to see how it is after many years. As of now I have no idea how to start, I mean what world.
I got into WoW when it was still just WoW. Enjoyed the first expansion. Enjoyed Lich King. Lost interest at Kung Fu Pandas. Came back when they revamped the entire world (Cataclysm?) but didn't like the linear quests. Way too contrived. Didn't feel organic at all any more, and I missed the glitchy stuff. I LIKED being able to slip underneath Stormwind, or climbing IronForge Mountain to the cave that goes nowhere. It made the world feel explorable. You could also play how you wanted. I decided to level my bank toon as a pacifist. Never equipped a weapon, just beer mugs and the foam sword from the traveling carnival. He was running through Zangarmarsh at L5, with glitched Goblin Rocket Boots to escape harm. The good old days.
I started 1 month after release and sold my character right before Naxx. I sold him for 5k on Ebay and started up at the level 70 cap then quit. Idk if I still have access to my account but I’m itching to come back. Still undecided…
I was a wow player from MoP to BfA and went to ffxiv once shadowlands got delayed. tried to come back for war within launch and the game just felt less complete in comparison. everything seems to be made to be rushed through as quickly as possible in order to get to endgame where there's a clear meta with specs so I can't really play what I want. I still have some love for the franchise, I just wish I could actually experience this new story without it being segmented into little cutscenes spread across 2 years
As you always should with any game. I got a question is it possible to play 1-2hours a day and enjoy some pvp or mythic + dungeons ? I didnt log in since BFA
I re-subscribed and felt overwhelmed at first but Im slowly getting used to it. I felt burned out on any class I tried but then I tried warrior and I got MoP vibes with all abilities almost the same. I love it, see you in game guys
So, I'm planning to get a sub. A few years ago, i started classic wow with my friends and really enjoyed it. I also started like, 'new' or 'normal' wow and enjoyed it too. But that was awhile ago. Where should i start now? im so tied between the two versions.
Im gonna give retail another try, i barely got into shadowlands but grinded on the one before. Its fun but as convenient as portals are i do miss exploring like in WOLK. The classic wow seemed more social especially dooing 5 man dungeons and players would add eachother as friends etc
Regarding level scaling: I'm not sure if the current leveling version makes the open world less dead than the alternative. Let's say we, as new players, must level through all zones and expansion to get to the end games. This would force new players, returning players, and the alts of current players to journey through the open world (or just spam dungeons..) instead of just doing a few zones before reaching the zones of the latest expansion. Sure, this would probably be seen as a slog by a lot of current players, but I do believe that it would create a more populated questing world, if we also did not spam dungeons to level up.
You don't need to force players through every zone to artificially populate it. Just make it viable on every level, so people would choose based on their personal preference instead of the profit. But that will never happen.
I resubbed a few times over the years in an effort to try recapture the 2006 WoW feels. I came to the conclusion, its not and never will be possible. We are truly lucky to have experienced Vanilla and TBC (WOTLK and CATA were decent too) but we all grew up, got jobs, had kids etc. it's time to stop chasing it and let it go.
I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling like this! But... I CAN'T STOP THE FEELING! WHY we can't have WoW as it was? It was peak gaming (Lineage 2 too, until Interlude) just hard grinding and exploring and fighting and drops MEANT SOMETHING. faaaack it's a hard to eat pill
As I've gotten older, my biggest requirement in a game is that it respects my time. These corpo developers trying to get me to commit 200+ hours of my time getting hooked into a loop are out of their damn mind, just give me something fun to pick up and play and get some sense of reward out of. The grind stuff needs to go the way of loot boxes IMO.
@@DedmundzMMO You should really try and give TurtleWow a shot! It is by far the best vanilla+ out there. It is the true feeling of running around in the world, listening to the rain and explore small buildings on your way :D
I log in every three or four years and update all my alts to whatever level squish/inflation, gear update, system change, and world exploding events have happened in the last two or three expansions I have missed. Then I get a bunch of new battle pets and get bored. The gear grind to get current on content always looks exhausting. I know some people enjoy the gear grind, but I definitely do not.
What’s crazy is wows entire quest system for the whole game is basically 1/28 skills in RuneScape… slayer skill is literally wow quests with better rewards.. I was creased laughing the other day watching old wow devs getting excited about the old quests they wrote… “go kill 10 kobolt vermin”… Actually was made by 12 year olds😅😂
I was in my 50s when I first played WOW. I lasted about 8 years and paid my monthly dues like everyone else. For myself, it's a MMO game that hopes to bleed people's wallets. Entertaining? Yes! Costly? Over many years, it sure can be. I recently started a vanilla account, not retail, and it slowly reminded me of why I stopped playing. I had multiple level 80 characters and played all races and professions. Fun times, I admit, but today, no. No way would I return to retail. Being 73 now, I would not be able to do raids, etc. simply because I don't think or move fast enough. Questing now, yes, doing those low level ones, is mostly boring, going back and forth often up to 4 times for the next quest. Quests in a certain area should all be available at the same time. A fine example would be all the tiger, panther and raptor quests in northern Stranglethorn all at the same time. I think players would love this format, but it will never happen. Whether you play retail or otherwise, enjoy the game! :)
I stopped playing when the story stopped making sense.... why did Nathanal lead the horde and alliance out to the sea and let azshara open a massive whirl pool and crash all the ships into nazjatar , explain that again?
@@soapgaming4903 racism implies I hate someone by their race. I don't see race we're all human at the end of the day. What I hate is choices and I can size someone up fairly easily by their choices. Elf players are some of if not the biggest douchebags in the game right next to Mohawk gnomes.
@@MrCarlWax Why? I've always been against elves in the Horde not only do they not belong in a tribal, shamanistic society but over 99.9 percent of those players are rude and annoying so no I refuse to play with them nor will I allow them in my groups.
July heat wave in California.....Waves are up and clothes are getting smaller...Gas is down .60 over last month, And i just got a Salary Bracket Bump up. Should i, A Scarab Lord + MGlad Healer, return to wow ????......... Defiantly not happening ! ...Its summer baby ! life is good and Seas are warm. See ya'll on Tich, When Season1/War within launches , Till then, ill be at the beach!!!
You're trying to fight with sticks and stones in an age where drones carry bombs and they are piloted remotely. The game functions as classic with new systems and it doesnt make sense at all. So its the systems themselves. Also the emphasis on looks vs skill. Now people want to look cool, instead of raiding an entire city 40 people in voice chat
@@jakubpelikan2393 i know this, that's not what i was saying, if you watched the video you would hear that he said he joined up with some buddies from his discord and had a blast playing. Since i'm the warlock that he's playing with in this video, im here to support my friend :)
The thing I didn't like is how Keys changed dungeons, everyone just zergs everything trying to go as fast as possible even in low level dungeons and dungeons that aren't keys and if your going "to slow" people start yelling at you. It kinda ruined dungeoning for me. Like Im ok with the key dungeons for a challenge and seeing how fast you can do it for good gear, BUT people expect you to zerg EVERYTHING now.
NOPE! They suckered me with the $25.00 welcome back to azeroth. Ya welcome back. To DEAD empty cities and NO talking, NO community. People treat this as a freaking solo game now. You hit a shiny QUE UP button, spam thru a dungeon/raid, BAM exit out. No thank yous, no goodbyes..NOTHING. Absolute joke. RUN FAR FROM THIS GAME!!! It is NOT World of Warcraft. OH and btw, all the moves/animations are "pew pew pew/spam spam spam!!" Nothing feels "heavy or a thud", its just PEW PEW PEW /SPAM SPAM SPAM. Dont tarnish your memories, this game started dying after WOTLK and I guess Panda was "OK" in lore/graphics..but honestly this games done and over with. Its NOT a MMO anymore.
It's pretty much as you said, it's a solo collectathon MMO, you can play it to know what living in Japan feels like, always alone, no community unless you enter a guild and people pretend they care about you when the only thing they are thinking is using you to get better loot 😂 I started playing Black desert instead, you can do world bosses by organically teaming up with people around you without needed group/raid groups, and you can play at your own pace including leveling/gearing.
I think you might be playing on a low pop realm. I see tons of players in cities. And the Looking for Dungeon/Raid normally only have low difficulties available to fast queue for. If you look at the pre-made groups you find the higher difficulties, and people actually talk in the chat. Every normal raid I’ve done people have been talking strategy, welcoming players, saying gg after the raid is done, and just having conversations with each other. Maybe play the game normally before going into a UA-cam comment section and going on a rant of how times were better when times were worse.
the increasingly elaborate, segmented, and gatekept nature of plot-driven gameplay really wore me down over time. despite having played wow for *years*, i always had the weird feeling that i was an outsider looking in at someone else's game. add to that the experience of toiling away to finally get high-tier equipment and skills, only to have it all nerfed the moment the next expansion came out. so much for being told i was the saviour of mankind. plus it didn't help that i'm a casual player and didn't particularly enjoy the breakneck and overly complicated experience of raids and dungeons, which meant that i missed a shitload of endgame content 🤷♀
I want to return to wow, as it's been my home for over a decade, but none of my friends are playing rn, as with age come jobs, family and other responsibilities, while yes I could make new friends within a new guild, it takes time, but 2 worst things for me why I am not returning are GDKP/sweatlord parse chasing mindsets of ppl, and leveling 5 new characters from 0 to hero for millionth time just sounds boring and annoying..
This is my biggest issue with Blizzard in the last couple years and it's quickly killing my love for their games. This applies to Diablo IV as well. I hope that the Microsoft acquisition is going to curb this but I'm not keeping my hopes up.
You used to play in a big free world exploring it as you pleased, you were a citizen of this world, not its protagonist. In the new expansions, you do cinematically written quests with straight storytelling, where you are one of the protagonists of the whole story. They wanted to make questing more enjoyable, but they took away some of your freedom. There used to be short quest series that involved you in important events. But today, with the exception of a few side quests, the whole expansion is one big quest series.
They could have *easily* fixed that problem with new players being lost on the story, by just having an evergreen scenario that takes you through key points in each expansion. New expansion comes out? Just slap the expansion that just ended to the end of the scenario.
Never thought of that! great idea! a sort of quick catchup story driven mode that explains each expansion while also serving as a leveling process for new players
I actually agree with this.
Yup, been yappin about this exact thing for years now. It needs to be a thing
Wow players agreeing on something involving old content. I did not have that on my bingo card for the year, but I agree also.
They are already adding in different quest markers depending on the importance of a quest. They have main scenario quest separated from side stories now, which will make leveling through each expansion with the focus on story so much better. Just playing through MoP Remix with this system is already pretty great, can't wait for it to be added to the rest of the game. If you're leveling multiple characters you could just level through each expansion only doing the main scenario quest, and learn the story that way.
Watching the video was enough to satisfy my nostalgia and save me the sub fee.
Exactly. Who pays to play these days ? 🤔 especially outdated WoW.
@@olivervision2111I paid a month ago, played for a few days, forgot to cancel, then got charged 14.99 today. It was painful seeing that notification 😂
@@40kNexus my condolences. 😫
I didn't, cause I won't return to this wokefest, no matter what.
@@40kNexusyou know blizzard will refund you right? Even if you sub play for 3 days don’t like it they will still refund you.. just because everyone makes out they are some evil money hungry company doesn’t mean they are mate lol
Wrath had a PERFECT balance between grind and progression. I was hoping that the level balance would bring that back. Sadly, I was wrong. My sister played it the first time since Cataclysm and wanted to start on Gilneas- her favorite starting zone. Then she got forced to Exile's Reach and did not like it or the new UI layout.
Yea the new layout is weird just gotta get used to it I guess but yea it doesn’t look as nice as the old one
Wrath was the pinnacle of wow in my opinion. Great storyline, reasonable grinding process, interesting raids, balanced pvp, fun pvp events and nice gearing system.
Homie left in cata… came back to Cata classic. Gotta be hilarious even thinking about that 😂
That’s me too
Me too. Honestly Shadowlands and Draenor seem so whack Kinda glad I missed em lol. I’m a casual player
@@wavy2kKeep in mind im very young, but i genuinely had the most fun with the game with Legion, I didn’t even bother with BFA it looked uninteresting from the start for me. But i genuinely think i would have loved to play Cata when it came out, looks like a fun experience to me
Is your name Homie, you could be Chromies BF, or you from the Hood but then your name would be Robin
All my friends who play wow still started in Cataclysm. All my friends who played wow before Cataclysm stopped play wow in Cataclysm.
I also burned out around Cataclysm, but after diving back in these past few days, I'm enjoying it. The pace has drastically increased; what used to feel like an eternity to reach level 60 now flies by effortlessly. I think getting flying mounts so early and having map markers for every quest significantly takes away from the sense of exploration. I guess players today just don’t have the patience for that kind of adventure anymore.
I stopped playing 4 months ago and recently just made a request to delete my account. I see no point in coming back and become addicted, wasting my time on a game, been 13 years!! I will remember all the good memories and the friends I’ve made along the way but it’s time to move on
This.
for me that was the only way to stop coming back to wow for no reason, best decision ever lol
smart man
Im not removing the account but im not intrested in war within. I wanted an underground expansion since 20 years but its not what war within is that i wanted.
Deleted my account back when the news came out of how shitty their corporate culture was, to the point of sexual harassment and assault, mistreatment and misogyny. Never looked back.
Played the free weekend with my kid to see if my spark could be rekindled. Euh this will sound harsh, but let's say the spark is now replaced with frustration.
I had to vote against my kid being kicked as "bot"
They probably meant he was ass so he was a bot
I do miss the old days of WoW but I still have a lot of fun since starting to play again on & off for the last 6 months. One thing I have noticed is that the new cities lack the magic of exploration. I love checking out all the nooks & crannies of every building for no other purpose than to explore. I hope they bring that back in the future. I’ll always love WoW. ❤
In the first Dalaraan this was my favorite thing, looking at all the neat shit
As someone who has been playing off and on since wrath I just came back three weeks ago from about 6 months off and I must say with a combination of remix and retail I’m having a blast but I do miss the social aspect of guild guilds nowadays are dead
I agree on the lacking of the social aspect, I think you really have to go out of your way to find that interaction that use to be so abundant back in the day and appeared organically every where you went
I remember lagging from all the players in main cities back in the day. Now with a better computer and a job, checked WoW again and almost not a player in sight. I miss it.
Fun is when I m invested in the world, take it slowly, no numbers and rushing to max, admire the art and just overall goofing around. After all it’s just a game. Unfortunately they forgot that and what they want to do is for kids to become addicts.
The answer is no - coming from someone who has tried to start up again every year since the end of Cata
SOD was the best for me so far and normal classic launch
I've actually just returned after a 5 year break and I'm personally enjoying myself.
I remember when I was playing this game and leveling was such a grind that it was WORTH YOUR WHILE to take a few days off questing and harvest materials to CRAFT your own armour. It was going to be relevant for longer than it took to find the mats. I miss when you would hunt down and do every quest in a zone and not be big enough for the next zone. You would have to travel across the world to a similar level zone and continue leveling there.
If they did that now with all the expansions I might come back. I don’t have people to play with or time in my schedule to attend pre arranged raids. As soon as I hit end game my interest fizzled out.
This was a really good video enjoyed it and for me it was informative . Thank you
I'm really happy to hear that! :D
I have not played this game since 2009ish. I used to love it a lot. However, i left once the daily grind (as you pointed out) became a thing if you wanted to maintain your character.
If you could post an update on this and other and new additions of these in the new update, that would be great. Ty 😊
Great watch, and thank you for this upload.
Thanks, you ensured me not to get back to this game with constant grinding and rat race. Listning to WoW music having nostalgia in my head from years back is enough.
Blizzard isnt blizzard anymore.
I hope Activision Blizzard goes bankrupt and their rights go to a passionate gaming company
that‘s right
Every now and then I get the urge to resub .... then I remember the toxic players. Never again.
If you call toxic those who calls you noob, better you stay out of the game. Or if you play it just go collect mogs and mounts, don't get involved in PvP or PvE just to make other people's life harder
@@Modrov I did some decent level content - was by no means a noob. Your comment exemplifies why I left the game.
The few thing is, I used to be a pretty decent player, subpar in PVP, Heroic but not Mythic Raider. I was playing at that level for like 3 years. Now i just like to log into wow and run around randomly on my trail account, i just love the areas, but i have not went into a battleground or instance in years, but i log in several times a week
Bro gave up way to soon on MoP, lore and storytelling was PEEK that expansion. But great video and good points. I hate their current approach to leveling and how they've given up on any attempt to make it an adventure.
I appreciate the kind words, I definitely wish I would have stayed around for MoP. I realize that now after playing remix.
It's still an adventure though, it's what you make it. It's not a 40hr running simulator like lvling through classic, it's a 10hr questing through a couple zones. It's still the same gameplay just faster. The adventure is still there in my opinion.
Didn't MoP come out the same time as Skyrim did?
Agreed, recently reactivated my account . Maybe this is the end of the dark storm clouds looming over Blizzard. I am excited yet still a little worried about the future of WOW I hope they continue to listen to player feedback!
I returned for a while last year (I played from vanilla to WoD before) and I thought retail was noodle soup I. E a total mess of odds and ends. The doesn't feel like a world any more it's just feels like a collection zones.
I haven't played since 2008 just before wotlk my gaming laptop took a dive literally and I've been wanting to build a gaming PC for a very very long time and since I've restarted playing Hearthstone I have a very deep desire to get back on and play
My only drawback of coming back to WoW is having friends to play with; My group doesn't necessarily want to play and it gets boring to play alone lol
This right here and I’ve played with the same friends group since I was 9. I don’t enjoy playing outside that group
Im on the same issue, recently moved to the U.S and unfortunately all my friends are in Europe, I really want to play the new expansion as i have quit wow the past couple of years, but I don’t want to start a fresh start with a new account and playing all alone on US servers
My and my friends played wow together since Burning crusade
@@InheritorIX right?!
@@jawadkhaled3796 it just hits different with friends. Alone is ok, but it’s just not the same
Left as soon as they added the wow token literally destroyed any desire for me to play the game
why?
@@bomjurfigure it out.
@@bomjur it's the same reason most people who played in vanilla, BC and wotlk, we used to grind to earn things as achement, modern wow people don't need to grind or try to work the auction house for gold, it's a p2w feature.
i only miss very very much my characters. But not the community and the game mechanics.
Dragonflight expansion is epic especially for casuals and world pve players. Love it. End game is 1) world content (love it), 2) achievement hunting (love it), pvp (ok), raids (love it), (mythic dung, love it). Fastest way to level is pick 1 expansion and do all quests in each zone, having fun with the story, and unlocking world achievements for the zones you are in. Gives more fun things to do. Before you have done all the expansion zones you should have hit you level to travel to Dragonflight content, but you may wish to finish what you are doing, especially if the main story is uncomplete. Reguardless there is so much fun to be found, but not recommended to jump between the expansions on one character as you won't experience the expansion as it was played when launched.
It's the most boring expansion to date
Dragonflight is the most casual friendly it’s been in YEARS. There is no borrowed power system (Artifact Power, Azerite Power, and Anima). Gearing has never been easier. Weekly’s are entirely optional unless you want some cosmetics. Gear upgrades are extremely easy to get as you can get hundreds of the required currency just doing a normal raid or even a Herod dungeon. Traversal is much easier with Dragon Riding. Wow is in a very good spot and the next expansion seems to much of the same with new endgame content.
I fell for that line, too. I bought the expansion, installed it, but still had to install addons like coordinates and dps meters, neither of which should feel obligatory but still do.
Then, came the actual ui changes. Here's where things got bad. None of the classes play the same way I remember with the new talents system and in order for me to even begin to know what class I want to play I need to go over DOZENS OF SPREADSHEETS running mathematical equations about DPS percentages and then run that through practical testing. Just so that I could get a handle on which class I liked, only to realize that this is all still the same game of Simon Says that forces me to watch the actionbars waiting for that next proc instead of the actual game world.
Then I got the starting quests which had no real narrative hooks and treated me as though I was a small child. Right after putting me through all of that nonsense with the UI and spreadsheets.
Actually, I'm not done talking about the UI and talents. Because all of that Simon Says gameplay really started to make me look for a class that I could play openly and freely like in Classic and there just weren't any. They all play the same way. Just can't afford take my eyes off the bars. I spent 3 days fighting with the talents and the actionbars just to be able to look at the game I was playing at only to find mindless grinding when I was finally able to get that far.
It still feels like any other expansion where the game is being made for the top 10% pf competitive players and the bottom 10% who don't even care about any of it in the first place.
One of the worst gaming experiences I have ever had.
@@Emidretrauqe I haven't picked up Dragonflight yet as I'm still on the fence about returning. The last time I played was for a couple of months in Shadowlands. But reading your reply you don't sound like a gamer who's used to adding quality of life mods, theorycrafting, or getting a feel for your class - such that you don't have to be looking at your bar all the time. I've been playing Diablo, for example, for over 15 years and you just get into a muscle memory / timing cadence for combat while hitting some special buttons to break crowd control or cleanse or whatever. I honestly can't see it being much different than it used to be, unless things have REALLY changed since I've played last.
I probably agree with you about the game's narrative treating you like a child since they're trying to appeal to the broadest of age ranges and that can get annoying.
I mean no offense whatsoever about your experience by saying any of this though, everyone has a right to their feelings and experiences and there's nothing wrong with that.
I am back now level 78 it’s super fun, we can solo dungeons if we want, totally cool
You know, There's nothing boring about Borean ;). Your point is really interesting and I'll be returning in a couple of days becauze I still need to "accomplish" certains things.
I honestly can't pinpoint why I don't like that zone but I always chose howling fjord over it lol, Great to hear about you returning! Let's hope this new expansion is a great addition!
@@DedmundzMMO oh don't worry I agree with you hate it too, that's just the name of the achievement for doing quests there hahaha. "Nothing boring about Borean." 😄
I haven't played since 2021, and decided to try the Pandaria remix. The game looks great and very beautiful, but in my opinion, it's too saturated, there's too much happening on the screen, everything is sparkling and shimmering, and I feel overwhelmed. Unfortunately, this has put me off buying the new expansion (at least for now, will see). Now I'm sitting in Cata, fishing in the evenings, chilling.
Also haven’t played heavily since Cata/MoP.
My last login was 2021.
I just started playing again last night, and I have to say I’m having just as much fun as I did when I played Vanilla 20 years ago.
It’ll quickly wear out…. Just wait… that’s nostalgia for you.
What until you have to focus more on c/d and rotations and not on the game,wow is just guitar hero
@@appathegoat been playing WoW on and off since 2004, and you think it’s going to “wear out” for me? 🤣👍
@@777Godsgift777 WoW has always been CDs and Rotations. I can tell you’ve never been a high tier end game player. 👌
@@_Vader_ Even the COD fanboys gave up after release after release of mediocrity. Hopefully for our sake this xpac will be the change Blizz needs to not follow suit in the pattern of mediocrity.
they got me with dragonflight. it looked good and was pretty fun for about 2 weeks til i realized that class balance was not going to be a thing for another expansion.
I miss wow so much.
In nowadays, I play board games with my friends at the game club.
so I don'"t play too much on pc anymore.
Recently I started playing HearthSTone again, and Wow kind of attracts me to join play again just like old times :D
i havent played in 10 years and had nostalgia itch Honestly with chromie i love playing through the old expansions with a new character for each expansion enjoying the story. By the end i will have like bunch a characters that are leveled b4 the last expansion
Good summary, I appreciate it. You did mention “Blizzard” a few times. It’s helpful to know that this is just a name, the people creating this content have nothing to do with the original Blizzard.
We are very OG players, starting with Burning C. and played till the end of Panda, maybe the fact that we turning 40 soon, but i just can't come back no matter how hard i tried... I just don't feel the same fire like in 2008 and i really miss my old buddy's, sad
Legion brought me back to the game and it was like a diamond in the rough, While yes it had the normal wow grindy bits the story and gameplay where very fun! Left before BFA started.
Old School Runescape has done it the right way!
I recently returned...about 3 weeks ago. I hadn't played since the Sylvanas raid when my guild fell apart while pushing through on Mythic.
Immediate impression is that it is an overly complicated mess without much focus, but the biggest part of that is because it's at the end of the expansion and there are just a ridiculous amount of currencies and storylines to get lost in. Even after 3 weeks, I'm lost. I've figured out how to get some transmogs and somewhat figured out the new crafting system.
I went ahead and did the pre-order for War Within and played a few days in the beta servers. I will say that the fresh start is great to feel like I'm starting back in a similar level as others as well as being caught up on the storyline.
How do you like the beta so far? Does it leave you feeling excited for the new expansion?
@@DedmundzMMO The gameplay and systems are just basically Dragonflight 2.0, so I'd say if someone liked DF then they'll like The War Within.
I am looking forward to playing, but i'm not sure I would say "excited" because it seems they spent a lot of time focusing on certain hero builds and very little time on others.
I'm hoping the ones that are lacking get another round of attention before launch.
"it is an overly complicated" my thoughts exactly. I feel like I spent an equal amount of time in game as I spent googling about where should I go and how do I get this and unlock that. And I have a lot of experience in different MMOs. Can't imagine how fresh to the genre player would feel.
My biggest issue was the babying of everything. I spent weeks grinding for various items, mounts, pets, etc, only for the next expansion to make it easy for the next player. It took over a month for an average game time player to hit 60 in vanilla. Today, a fraction of that commitment gets you maxed in TWW (would be 150 without the lvl squish). Pretty disappointing.
I come and go when it comes to WOW. WOW classic did bring me back and I played a lot right up to WOTLK launched.
But its been over a year since I played. Thinking about returning.
I switched over to 14 a few years back and I really don't regret it. I will say the nice thing about being a casual player is that I have time to play multiple games now. That's probably the main reason I'll never come back to WoW is that it demands waaaay too much commitment of time with artificial chores essentially forcing you to log in every day.
"Meet Night Elves Near You!"
Lmao
I was defending WoW since Shadowlands where people started screaming about how WoW is dying... after few years I can calmly say, they were right. I quit 2 times in Dragonflight at least for 6 months and now I'm not even looking for new expansion, not even for Cata or MoP. WoW was about exploring, leveling took much much more longer, but you had a chance to see Azeroth and explore lore, maps, characters etc... now ? Start with lvl10 and jump to the dungeon finder immediately, push to the max level, farm iLvl and run mythic dungeons again and again. It's fun for some time ngl, but sadly it's only thing what you can do (+ raids once per week, and DF raids are boring af, even Supulcher was much more better). I have never seen so huge degradation of game experience ever, before huge goliath between mmo's called World of Warcraft, now cash grab which is not worth it at all, because game is basically empty - compared to Legion, MoP... even mostly hated BfA had more content than SL and DF... great job, I have never seen so huge degradation of game title as here. Pushing 2k rio every season is not enough tho.
ADD: Forgot to mention lore, which is now completely out of line, doesn't make sense and you just want to skip it, same as in SL. Milking old characters, crying baby King, dragons (nobody cares them lmao). Compared to old expansions, bosses here are boring, not so evil and you don't even remember their name after two days... where is Arthas, Garrosh, Gul'dan, N'Zoth... ?
I can’t agree more. Old WoW is all about journey. Nowadays Blizaard just wanna put things into your stomach and they don’t care about the taste anymore.
Wow has only been about a “Journey” in Vanilla. That sense was killed in TBC.
I wish they hadn’t moved through classic so quickly. They should’ve made the expacs 3 years each.
We woiuldve gotten 9 years out of the first three, which would’ve been almost as good as having classic-Wotlk back, which was the only time worth playing
Transmog no pants of course that is totally why I'd come back.
i dont even remember the amount of times i quit and returned . also cata ruined it for me big time to . id be lying if i said i didnt quit during pandaria but i actually rly like that expansion .
wow it self is boring , i think most people spent so much they have hard time divorcing the game - that does affect me though because blizzard keeps going and i keep coming back
even tho i think both ESO and GW2 are superior games .
They could readjust monster and item levels by categorizing each zone from each expansion progressionlike from initial to lategame content, so an endgame dungeon from current patch and an endgame dungeon from, idk, wrath of the lich king, would share similar difficulty and rewards...
This way you could experience all content and follow any storyline you please, and you'd also have more replayability and more item variety.
If something like that was made, I'd totally return to the game.
Blizzard has replaced the world with contrived systems. That's why they need the player to get to the endgame ASAP.
Unfortunately I believe you are correct sir!
I used to play, honestly I don’t want to grind to get a character back up to level now..
I quit around panda came back and then quit after warlords came out.. I see so many cool new things I wished were around when I played like hightower tauren and other sub classes. I have a lot of old legendary items and some old drakes that used to be rare that I wouldn't mind seeing and using again if they still exist. I do want to get back into it and im buying a new gaming pc this month. I don't know if I will be able to resist WoW. it's still to this day the game I had the most fun playing and even if I wasnt "playing" which I did a lot, I would explore and just check out new areas and questlines on the lowest graphics it was still such a cool experience. I am hoping with a updated system, those old feelings will come back..
If I go back to WoW now, it's only to "Chill" doing things like leveling, professions, events, etc. I don't mess with the story anymore and I don't mess with the raids or anything either. The problem is, it's hard to justify the subscription fee for my use case. I usually just chill with my free starter account rather than my main one.
man, couldn't agree more. especially the questing. 🙈
Still to this day my favorite game ever. This is when i played seriously over a decade ago. I first started playing wow relatively shortly before tbc came out and stopped shortly after lich king came out. Just seeing all of the ridiculous expansions over the years made me never want to come back. Such a shame. But im sure its stil fun for some and maybe some day soon i’ll hop back onto my account and run around for a bit then hop back off
If i dont't have Dragonflight expansions do i need to buy it before The war Within? Or its included?
People want to just walk around and experience the huge world but then complain that the game feels a waste of time 😂 the game changed. Of course, people! 9 expansions! 20 ys of game! However, in my opinion, people changed too. What made us happy years ago now feels like a waste of time. It's all about productivity and getting to the end as quickly as possible nowadays. Thanks for sharing this video btw man! Appreciated. Subscribed.
I've found that I would rather play Turtle WoW.
I'm playig WOW when it started and quit when motorbikes enter Ogrimmar. I'm gonna play again to see how it is after many years. As of now I have no idea how to start, I mean what world.
I got into WoW when it was still just WoW. Enjoyed the first expansion. Enjoyed Lich King. Lost interest at Kung Fu Pandas. Came back when they revamped the entire world (Cataclysm?) but didn't like the linear quests. Way too contrived. Didn't feel organic at all any more, and I missed the glitchy stuff. I LIKED being able to slip underneath Stormwind, or climbing IronForge Mountain to the cave that goes nowhere. It made the world feel explorable. You could also play how you wanted. I decided to level my bank toon as a pacifist. Never equipped a weapon, just beer mugs and the foam sword from the traveling carnival. He was running through Zangarmarsh at L5, with glitched Goblin Rocket Boots to escape harm. The good old days.
I started 1 month after release and sold my character right before Naxx. I sold him for 5k on Ebay and started up at the level 70 cap then quit. Idk if I still have access to my account but I’m itching to come back. Still undecided…
You missed Legion? That was great xpac
My favorite
@@Siiimon426 And mine also!
Also playing wow on steam deck is great for chill laid back experience
I was a wow player from MoP to BfA and went to ffxiv once shadowlands got delayed. tried to come back for war within launch and the game just felt less complete in comparison. everything seems to be made to be rushed through as quickly as possible in order to get to endgame where there's a clear meta with specs so I can't really play what I want.
I still have some love for the franchise, I just wish I could actually experience this new story without it being segmented into little cutscenes spread across 2 years
I honestly waiting for the prepatch TWW expansion looks interesting imo haven't played in a long time so the game looks fresh to me.
its worth it in my opinion. believe it or not you can easily have fun playing retail casually.. just don't take it too seriously ;)
As you always should with any game.
I got a question is it possible to play 1-2hours a day and enjoy some pvp or mythic + dungeons ? I didnt log in since BFA
@@MrKleju abso fucking lutely!! and dont forget to play on a RP server. way better community
@@MrKleju when we speak about pvp its only arena or rbg bc unrated bg has like 10-20 mins queue
I re-subscribed and felt overwhelmed at first but Im slowly getting used to it. I felt burned out on any class I tried but then I tried warrior and I got MoP vibes with all abilities almost the same. I love it, see you in game guys
@@MrKleju you can easily do 2-3 mythics ye
Thanks for saving me money.
YES🎉
So, I'm planning to get a sub. A few years ago, i started classic wow with my friends and really enjoyed it. I also started like, 'new' or 'normal' wow and enjoyed it too. But that was awhile ago. Where should i start now? im so tied between the two versions.
Im gonna give retail another try, i barely got into shadowlands but grinded on the one before. Its fun but as convenient as portals are i do miss exploring like in WOLK. The classic wow seemed more social especially dooing 5 man dungeons and players would add eachother as friends etc
They should put cooldown on dungeons till max lvl so you get forced to actually explore some between cooldowns so u dont just spam dung lvl
I will always remember my last days of wow & why I will never log back into World Of Warcraft .
Regarding level scaling: I'm not sure if the current leveling version makes the open world less dead than the alternative. Let's say we, as new players, must level through all zones and expansion to get to the end games. This would force new players, returning players, and the alts of current players to journey through the open world (or just spam dungeons..) instead of just doing a few zones before reaching the zones of the latest expansion. Sure, this would probably be seen as a slog by a lot of current players, but I do believe that it would create a more populated questing world, if we also did not spam dungeons to level up.
It's too much to do every expansion while leveling, people would quit for surr
You don't need to force players through every zone to artificially populate it. Just make it viable on every level, so people would choose based on their personal preference instead of the profit. But that will never happen.
@@bomjur is it not viable on pretty much every level though, your leveling no matter what. It's not meta lvling lol
I resubbed a few times over the years in an effort to try recapture the 2006 WoW feels. I came to the conclusion, its not and never will be possible.
We are truly lucky to have experienced Vanilla and TBC (WOTLK and CATA were decent too) but we all grew up, got jobs, had kids etc. it's time to stop chasing it and let it go.
Amen
I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling like this! But...
I CAN'T STOP THE FEELING!
WHY we can't have WoW as it was? It was peak gaming (Lineage 2 too, until Interlude) just hard grinding and exploring and fighting and drops MEANT SOMETHING. faaaack it's a hard to eat pill
As I've gotten older, my biggest requirement in a game is that it respects my time. These corpo developers trying to get me to commit 200+ hours of my time getting hooked into a loop are out of their damn mind, just give me something fun to pick up and play and get some sense of reward out of. The grind stuff needs to go the way of loot boxes IMO.
How do you feel about classic wow ? I don’t wanna play retail cause all I hear is how it speed levels you and I enjoy a grind to the next level
You know I've never tried classic yet, I wish I would have when it first came out, But I definitely plan on giving cataclysm classic a shot!
Classic era is still fun as long as they don’t ruin it with surprise “quality of life” updates.
@@DedmundzMMO You should really try and give TurtleWow a shot! It is by far the best vanilla+ out there. It is the true feeling of running around in the world, listening to the rain and explore small buildings on your way :D
I log in every three or four years and update all my alts to whatever level squish/inflation, gear update, system change, and world exploding events have happened in the last two or three expansions I have missed. Then I get a bunch of new battle pets and get bored. The gear grind to get current on content always looks exhausting. I know some people enjoy the gear grind, but I definitely do not.
Quick answer is NO!
What’s crazy is wows entire quest system for the whole game is basically 1/28 skills in RuneScape… slayer skill is literally wow quests with better rewards..
I was creased laughing the other day watching old wow devs getting excited about the old quests they wrote… “go kill 10 kobolt vermin”…
Actually was made by 12 year olds😅😂
I was in my 50s when I first played WOW. I lasted about 8 years and paid my monthly dues like everyone else. For myself, it's a MMO game that hopes to bleed people's wallets. Entertaining? Yes! Costly? Over many years, it sure can be. I recently started a vanilla account, not retail, and it slowly reminded me of why I stopped playing. I had multiple level 80 characters and played all races and professions. Fun times, I admit, but today, no. No way would I return to retail. Being 73 now, I would not be able to do raids, etc. simply because I don't think or move fast enough. Questing now, yes, doing those low level ones, is mostly boring, going back and forth often up to 4 times for the next quest. Quests in a certain area should all be available at the same time. A fine example would be all the tiger, panther and raptor quests in northern Stranglethorn all at the same time. I think players would love this format, but it will never happen. Whether you play retail or otherwise, enjoy the game! :)
So classic is up to Cata?
I stopped playing when the story stopped making sense.... why did Nathanal lead the horde and alliance out to the sea and let azshara open a massive whirl pool and crash all the ships into nazjatar , explain that again?
Think that’s confusing try making any sense of the Bible
@@jamescox857 lol
how long it will take to learn WoW in 2024 ?
I refuse to play with people who play elves on the Horde so you can kinda guess where I currently stand.
Is this technically WoW Racism?
@@soapgaming4903 racism implies I hate someone by their race. I don't see race we're all human at the end of the day. What I hate is choices and I can size someone up fairly easily by their choices. Elf players are some of if not the biggest douchebags in the game right next to Mohawk gnomes.
You do you, but that's a very odd stance.
@@MrCarlWax Why? I've always been against elves in the Horde not only do they not belong in a tribal, shamanistic society but over 99.9 percent of those players are rude and annoying so no I refuse to play with them nor will I allow them in my groups.
@@Husker_XIII you got issues brother
Dragonriding is the main reason i am not coming back.
Haven’t played since warlords, is it too late?
No, not at all! the game is very beginner and returning player friendly!
Dwight? Is that you?
Wow killed itself
July heat wave in California.....Waves are up and clothes are getting smaller...Gas is down .60 over last month, And i just got a Salary Bracket Bump up.
Should i, A Scarab Lord + MGlad Healer, return to wow ????.........
Defiantly not happening ! ...Its summer baby ! life is good and Seas are warm. See ya'll on Tich, When Season1/War within launches , Till then, ill be at the beach!!!
war within is going to be great
You're trying to fight with sticks and stones in an age where drones carry bombs and they are piloted remotely. The game functions as classic with new systems and it doesnt make sense at all. So its the systems themselves. Also the emphasis on looks vs skill. Now people want to look cool, instead of raiding an entire city 40 people in voice chat
Simple answer is No, just don't..
Wow is always a good time with friends! love that you're making the return to all of these old mmo's
WoW isnt mmo for someon who play this game you would know that 99% of time you play alone without seeing any other players.
@@jakubpelikan2393 i know this, that's not what i was saying, if you watched the video you would hear that he said he joined up with some buddies from his discord and had a blast playing. Since i'm the warlock that he's playing with in this video, im here to support my friend :)
Sometimes my mom and I would play but 99% of the time I'm soloing it
The thing I didn't like is how Keys changed dungeons, everyone just zergs everything trying to go as fast as possible even in low level dungeons and dungeons that aren't keys and if your going "to slow" people start yelling at you. It kinda ruined dungeoning for me. Like Im ok with the key dungeons for a challenge and seeing how fast you can do it for good gear, BUT people expect you to zerg EVERYTHING now.
Great video!
Hey thanks man!
NOPE! They suckered me with the $25.00 welcome back to azeroth. Ya welcome back. To DEAD empty cities and NO talking, NO community. People treat this as a freaking solo game now. You hit a shiny QUE UP button, spam thru a dungeon/raid, BAM exit out. No thank yous, no goodbyes..NOTHING. Absolute joke. RUN FAR FROM THIS GAME!!! It is NOT World of Warcraft. OH and btw, all the moves/animations are "pew pew pew/spam spam spam!!" Nothing feels "heavy or a thud", its just PEW PEW PEW /SPAM SPAM SPAM. Dont tarnish your memories, this game started dying after WOTLK and I guess Panda was "OK" in lore/graphics..but honestly this games done and over with. Its NOT a MMO anymore.
It's pretty much as you said, it's a solo collectathon MMO, you can play it to know what living in Japan feels like, always alone, no community unless you enter a guild and people pretend they care about you when the only thing they are thinking is using you to get better loot 😂 I started playing Black desert instead, you can do world bosses by organically teaming up with people around you without needed group/raid groups, and you can play at your own pace including leveling/gearing.
I think you might be playing on a low pop realm. I see tons of players in cities. And the Looking for Dungeon/Raid normally only have low difficulties available to fast queue for. If you look at the pre-made groups you find the higher difficulties, and people actually talk in the chat. Every normal raid I’ve done people have been talking strategy, welcoming players, saying gg after the raid is done, and just having conversations with each other. Maybe play the game normally before going into a UA-cam comment section and going on a rant of how times were better when times were worse.
Have you tried talking to people?
he's right, you know.
@@fanaticist no he’s not. He clearly played 20 minutes and quit.
the increasingly elaborate, segmented, and gatekept nature of plot-driven gameplay really wore me down over time. despite having played wow for *years*, i always had the weird feeling that i was an outsider looking in at someone else's game. add to that the experience of toiling away to finally get high-tier equipment and skills, only to have it all nerfed the moment the next expansion came out. so much for being told i was the saviour of mankind.
plus it didn't help that i'm a casual player and didn't particularly enjoy the breakneck and overly complicated experience of raids and dungeons, which meant that i missed a shitload of endgame content 🤷♀
I want to return to wow, as it's been my home for over a decade, but none of my friends are playing rn, as with age come jobs, family and other responsibilities, while yes I could make new friends within a new guild, it takes time, but 2 worst things for me why I am not returning are GDKP/sweatlord parse chasing mindsets of ppl, and leveling 5 new characters from 0 to hero for millionth time just sounds boring and annoying..
Feels like a mobile game now
This is my biggest issue with Blizzard in the last couple years and it's quickly killing my love for their games. This applies to Diablo IV as well. I hope that the Microsoft acquisition is going to curb this but I'm not keeping my hopes up.