"The T4 can run H sets!" Recently I have recieved many comments saying that H sets already run intercity services on the T4. That is true, but there's more to it. To explain this, I have made a video explaining about the H sets on the T4. ua-cam.com/video/MOdzLPVELxs/v-deo.html
they should run suburban h sets cuz when u have to go on the t4 every day, you hate the t sets upper windows and non-reversable seating and the smell. also the g sets are a bit better but the seats are so hard to flip!!!!!
I see a G set 2.0 incoming. The H sets will follow same fate as the G sets, toilets removed, carriages refurbished, seats and baggage racks will probably remain, then be rebadged as Sydney Trains and maybe retageted or the “OSCar” name dropped and just labelled as targeted “H sets” or different letter.
Here are my predictions of what is going to happen to the Oscars sets: 1. With the Oscars having Waratah announcements, this means the M Sets will be the only sets left to have the old announcements 2. If they go on sector 3, they would be working alongside Waratahs (same with M sets on sector 2), and this means that all the Tangaras (currently on sector 3) will be transferred to sector 1, and Series 2 Waratahs currently doing sector 3 runs will instead be allocated back to sector 2 runs.
i went on an upgraded one and for some reason only some stations had the same announcements as the A and B sets all the others had the same as before (only for the station name not for the “this station is” etc.)
So now only 1 intercity train to go everywhere, Hunter line does not count because I don't think it is classified as intercity because the J sets only run on the hunter line, it never goes anywhere intercity like cardiff unless it is undergoing maintenance or repairs. I swear cityrail had a lot of trains back then for intercity like the U sets, G sets (convert to T sets) and all that. They also ordered a huge number of them, so it will fit all transportation needs for intercity like rail, I can't imagine those trains retiring, it may take 20-30 years before the D sets retire, the trains may also be broken by that time, like power or lights and USB ports, and when they do, they probably would still keep the USB ports I am guessing
I reckon they’ll be too lazy to remove the toilets, at best they will lock them, but they are already supposed to be locked in the suburban area and aren’t really - so I think they’ll just leave them as is, perhaps stop maintaining them so they are all eventually out of order
I don’t think the HAVE TO change them, they just are because they are generally refurbishing the trains while they are approximately midlife. They’ll probably refurbish the millenniums soon too
i catch a K set almost everytime to go to school lol, so I may see one there, im probably also going to record a K set train on it's last trip, but I think the K set when I catch would probably be just a waratah instead. Because if the H set runs on the T1 and T9 for example, I mean, it is probably never going to change at all
To be honest I'm not that much of a fan of the new PIDS. Idk I just think reading them horizontally feels more natural than vertically. Also aren't the H sets already used on the T4? They run on that line to the south coast and sometimes to places like Cronulla
The T4 can only handle up to 3 fourth generation trains at a time due to it's power standards. The T4 is only using H sets for intercity services, and they won't be required on the line for suburban services.
While I can understand T4 not seeing any new sets as that's the standard for Labor governments how would they not be supported given T4 is the path to the south coast line after all?
T4 can't run new generation stock in peak because the electrical infrastructure in the Eastern Suburbs Railway tunnel isnt capable of running the power demand of 20 new generation trains per hour, and it is easier to allocate all the same rolling stock type to the same sector running out of the same stabling (Mortdale, Waterfall). T4 will get the brand new fleet when Tangaras replacements are arriving ready in around 8 years or so. I personally hope they move back to single deck for the T4 given the digital signalling Upgrade will allow more frequent service and ATO.
@@TangaraTrainExplainI don't think they'll need to. With the T4 trains stopping at St Peter's and Eskineville after Metro extension opens, I think all the South Coast trains will originate/terminate at Central.
"The T4 can run H sets!"
Recently I have recieved many comments saying that H sets already run intercity services on the T4. That is true, but there's more to it. To explain this, I have made a video explaining about the H sets on the T4.
ua-cam.com/video/MOdzLPVELxs/v-deo.html
they should run suburban h sets cuz when u have to go on the t4 every day, you hate the t sets upper windows and non-reversable seating and the smell. also the g sets are a bit better but the seats are so hard to flip!!!!!
also if the motor doesn’t match then how can the h sets still run on it
@@TeamGrayscales just watch the video I linked
I see a G set 2.0 incoming. The H sets will follow same fate as the G sets, toilets removed, carriages refurbished, seats and baggage racks will probably remain, then be rebadged as Sydney Trains and maybe retageted or the “OSCar” name dropped and just labelled as targeted “H sets” or different letter.
The H Sets currently run on the T4 Illawarra line from Bondi to Wollongong and Kiama
Here are my predictions of what is going to happen to the Oscars sets:
1. With the Oscars having Waratah announcements, this means the M Sets will be the only sets left to have the old announcements
2. If they go on sector 3, they would be working alongside Waratahs (same with M sets on sector 2), and this means that all the Tangaras (currently on sector 3) will be transferred to sector 1, and Series 2 Waratahs currently doing sector 3 runs will instead be allocated back to sector 2 runs.
D sets also have the same announcements as the OSCARS as seen in one video where a D set went past Green Square station.
I’m gonna be pissed if they removed the high backed seating and use Waratahs seats or something, great vid btw!
While I was on a Waratah, [Central-My Suburb] I kept seeing H sets nit being used. Just... abandoned... I was confused why? Until now.
I think they might just have a home on the airport line
i went on an upgraded one and for some reason only some stations had the same announcements as the A and B sets all the others had the same as before (only for the station name not for the “this station is” etc.)
I wonder if this will be true, I have been living in Auburn for 6 years but I never knew about the H set upgrade thanks for information
The k sets are my favorite train
I love the K sets as well and I do not want them to go.
Mine is the H sets (Oscar trains)
Im sorry for being a slow reader but it’s frustrating that you don’t give readers enough time to read the texts.
Sorry for that, I will try making the text stay longer in my future videos. Thx for letting me know
Press pause?
@@Mark-jz5ye I did, but it’s frustrating. Just make it a tad slower
The h set might go on the T8 as it has been spotted testing on the line
true
Unlikely, as none of the crews are qualified for the H set. It’s more likely T9 and T1
If you want to group up the T1, T9 call it sector 3 suburban.
I know that, I just didn't want to make the video confusing for some viewers who might not know that.
H Sets are suitable to run the T4 Line
Yeah, but the T4 can only run a maximum of 3 H sets at a time, otherwise the power will fail or something like that.
@@TangaraTrainExplain but don't H sets run on the T4 when going to port kembla?
@@TangaraTrainExplainbut they have more then 5 during the morning peak cause they run the Hurstville Services All stations
Heard these announcements on a H set heading to Hurstville don’t remember the Set number tho
I don’t want the k sets to be gone just like the v sets to be gone from the d sets now the oscar h sets will replace the k sets I’m gonna miss them
I am going to miss the K sets as well. :(
So now only 1 intercity train to go everywhere, Hunter line does not count because I don't think it is classified as intercity because the J sets only run on the hunter line, it never goes anywhere intercity like cardiff unless it is undergoing maintenance or repairs. I swear cityrail had a lot of trains back then for intercity like the U sets, G sets (convert to T sets) and all that. They also ordered a huge number of them, so it will fit all transportation needs for intercity like rail, I can't imagine those trains retiring, it may take 20-30 years before the D sets retire, the trains may also be broken by that time, like power or lights and USB ports, and when they do, they probably would still keep the USB ports I am guessing
Nice video, Like
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I reckon they’ll be too lazy to remove the toilets, at best they will lock them, but they are already supposed to be locked in the suburban area and aren’t really - so I think they’ll just leave them as is, perhaps stop maintaining them so they are all eventually out of order
Why do they have to change the pids and stuff why can’t they just keep it. It is nostalgic.
I don’t think the HAVE TO change them, they just are because they are generally refurbishing the trains while they are approximately midlife. They’ll probably refurbish the millenniums soon too
Well actually the h sets run off peak between Hornsby and blacktown during the time they’re not operating blacktown to central coast services
It probably will run T2, T3 and T8 to relieve the K sets of service
True, but there are a lot more H sets than there are K sets. Plus, the K sets only run during peak hour.
Honestly whatever happens I’m happy with
My local line is the T9, but I wouldn't mind the Oscars being on Sector 2 either.
@@TangaraTrainExplain same here
i catch a K set almost everytime to go to school lol, so I may see one there, im probably also going to record a K set train on it's last trip, but I think the K set when I catch would probably be just a waratah instead. Because if the H set runs on the T1 and T9 for example, I mean, it is probably never going to change at all
To be honest I'm not that much of a fan of the new PIDS. Idk I just think reading them horizontally feels more natural than vertically. Also aren't the H sets already used on the T4? They run on that line to the south coast and sometimes to places like Cronulla
The T4 can only handle up to 3 fourth generation trains at a time due to it's power standards. The T4 is only using H sets for intercity services, and they won't be required on the line for suburban services.
While I can understand T4 not seeing any new sets as that's the standard for Labor governments how would they not be supported given T4 is the path to the south coast line after all?
T4 can't run new generation stock in peak because the electrical infrastructure in the Eastern Suburbs Railway tunnel isnt capable of running the power demand of 20 new generation trains per hour, and it is easier to allocate all the same rolling stock type to the same sector running out of the same stabling (Mortdale, Waterfall). T4 will get the brand new fleet when Tangaras replacements are arriving ready in around 8 years or so. I personally hope they move back to single deck for the T4 given the digital signalling Upgrade will allow more frequent service and ATO.
I think Oscar h set sounds like waratah
Why can't they save a full k set?
Nice video, you should voiceover for these videos.
Tysm!
I don't feel comfortable using my voice, and I tried using tts in my other videos (it was cringe.)
@@TangaraTrainExplain Ok, no problem.
2:35 t4 has intercity oscars so why cant they run suburban?
The T4 can only handle a maximum of 3 H sets at a time, as they are drawing too much power (the T4 has lower power standards).
@@TangaraTrainExplainhow will they be able to handle the D sets then
@@kingsbishop1479 They will do it the same way they handle the H sets.
@@TangaraTrainExplainI don't think they'll need to. With the T4 trains stopping at St Peter's and Eskineville after Metro extension opens, I think all the South Coast trains will originate/terminate at Central.
@@TangaraTrainExplain understood. but since the t4 is the 2nd most used train line in sydney, then shouldn’t we upgrade it?
New announcement too annoying.
Experience from a 3hr ride on the set. I was happy when on the return it was the old PIDS.