Resurrecting THE PHOENIX! || X-Men Forever 2, 2024 ||
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2024
- In this video we will be going over, X-Men: Forever || Fall of the House of X || (issue 1, 2024) published by Marvel. I do not own the rights to any of the artistry. All rights are owned by the respective companies. #xmenforever #houseofthefallofx #Marvel
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HAUNTED HOUSE OF X! How can you kill a digital god? What do you do when the Phoenix is bleeding out into nothing? There's been questions that have haunted you since the end of IMMORTAL X-MEN. Finally, some answers. There's also been some questions that have haunted you since the START of IMMORTAL X-MEN. Finally, some answers too. Tying directly into the pages of the epic FALL OF THE HOUSE OF X and RISE OF THE POWERS OF X comes this story of revelation from Kieron Gillen (IMMORTAL X-MEN) and Luca Maresca (CHILDREN OF THE VAULT)!
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LOL, bruh I know you said as part of enigmas plan, but as a black man I'm laughing my ass off because of the timing and the character I definitely thought I heard something else😂😂😂😂😂😂
LMFAO SAME BROOO I WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD 😭
Brooooo, low key I replayed it like yooo.
Time stamp cause I'm lost 🤣🤣
@@comicbreakdown lol 4:56 when prodigy walks in
Ya I just heard 🙊🙊☠️😱 it definitely doesn't sound like enigma lmao
The Phoenix fading out makes no sense. Phoenix never truly dies, that's its purpose.
To die and Resurrect stronger. It’s all over the place now. Why didn’t they Use the 5 to bring back the Phoenix. Only for Jean to have it die and disappear for 3 years.
Exactly. Whoever is writing this comic is a genuine idiot.
@@mauricebrown1277 I feel like cosmic constructs are outside the realm of what the 5 can resurrect.
@@mauricebrown1277the Five cannot resurrect cosmic beings. That is WAY out of their abilities
She takes Jean grey daughter as host
That 3 super villains in a room comment by Sinister is a great reminder of who is really on the Quiet Council and pretty funny.
Its going to pop off in the last issues of Fall of the House & Rise of the Powers. I’m sure the battle will culminate with Phoenix vs the Dominions in the last two issues of X-MEN Forever! I’m so excited!
What I love about this issue is that it further establishes Jean as phoenix! They are not two separate entities, “jeans fire” hope being able to mimic Phoenix fire because it’s ultimately Jean mutation!
I wish we had more stories involving Proteus. He’s an OP mutant who’s been kept out of the spotlight long enough.
Very curious about him in this era, his mother and his foster sister.
Because he is UNSTABLE and is a real menace everytime he is around, and needs to constantly possess bodies and then used them up and find the next because of his unstable body matter
"Enigma please" 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Enigmas are always planning something.😂
This is me leaving a comment to come back to this later. As this leaves questions dating back to JD
Finally!
I heard that 😉
😂😂
@@BwrandonAt least I’m not alone now. If anybody posts a time stamp I’ll be pissed.
I laughed a bit too hard 🤣
@@DarkDeviceI replayed it 😅😅😅
😳😳
Nice.
Sooo,Xavier was planning this up eh . I won't be suprised if prisoner X is him since he gave humanity a bit of a taste of that sweet extinction flavour 😅 and they aren't very happy about it .I was kinda suprised at first thinking how hard they assasinated his character with him joining Orchis and him having that thelepatic conversation with Scott . Writers jebated us good on that one 😅 though when you put a thought later on you kinda see that he was up to something when he took out Rachel to resurrect the phoenix .
Ayyyeeee yoooooo😂😂😂😂
HI this will be good
Thanks
Omg dude! Real exciting stuff here!! Thanks for bringing that same excitement to your dialogue. Your enthusiasm, charisma and knowledge are so important to make each and everyone of your videos like a show!
Thanks a ton!
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I just figured it out, Charles is pretending to make a deal with Nimrod as a diversion to keep Nimrod off balanced long enough for the Pheonix to come in and stop Nimrod from bringing the Dominion online!
My enigma is trippin
I really hope thar Mystique will actually listen to Destiny. It would suck if Raven went bad AGAIN!
They are getting a vote’s renewal
Nope. They will come to blows when they meet in a future issue
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw Yeah. But I still hope Raven will listen
The logic used to resurrect Sinister is flawed...he is NOT a mutant in its truest sense. Dude shouldn't even have been on Krakoa to begin with...
I believe the mutate Sinister was killed by one of his several clones, the one that killed him being a clone that had the X-gene.
The “Sinister” here is indeed a mutant.
Anyone wanna explain why the mutants of Krakoa are being left in the white hot room (other than than Marvel trying to shut down the Krakoan age)? If Mother Righteous can bring the mutants to the White Hot Room (and years ago we saw the S.W.O.R.D. team can access the White Hot Room as well to get mysterium), then why can they figure out a way to establish a gate to bring everyone back, especially once the Phoenix is resurrected? Doesnt make sense.
Good review. I'm in my Fall of Krakoa withdrawal as I haven't had time to pick up my copy and read this issue. I watched Blerb's review and Breakdown, which I like Breakdown's review much better. The trash of Xavier gets to be too heavy sometimes. I long suspected that Xavier's motive, though worried by Magneto as being bad, might be sometimes wrongly interpreted. I'm glad Destiny, Dead Mutant's, Rachel had redirected Xavier's plans to be reconsidered that a win-win for mutants was possible. Sometimes, readers forget how many times Xavier was willing to bear the brunt of injury/death for the sake of mutant kind in the past. We also see that he loves his mutants that he has 'hope' that there is a future for them, which we sometimes wonder how his students who respected, loved, fought with, and endangered always forget that he has sacraficed himself in the past many times for them. Some of their best & worst moments reflect their influence on him as well as themselves on their growth together. In the core of X-men, who worked closely with Charles, it's a reciprocating molding, it bonded into each of them. It's rather surprising that for all that Xavier and Sinister have been involved, he still sees value in him to want him resurrected. I hope the ending will result the bulk of mutants existing but temporarily detached for a later series bringing them back. There is too many stories of so many characters that it would blow the budget of most fans to want all back at the same time. Mahalo.
Also, did they just write Legion out of the story??? I thought he’d be more relevant in the dominion plot.
Yes, they did. And in a passing remark, it was revealed that he too, will lose to a Dominion as in the Sins of Sinister timeline, he went to a higher plane of existence only to "devoured" by said Dominion
4:57 the M in enigma was silent
Yaaaaa lol
@@comicbreakdownit’s ok we can get you some speech therapy. You were really close🤣
Lol
Damn, so Xavier is basically just stalling until the Phoenix can come back and decimate the Dominion but I'm confused as to how they're making the Phoenix force as something other than immortal when it's the sum of all life in the universe. Also, Will Phoenix only destroy the Dominion and not the AI and Nimrod for good? The Five are probably going to have to be taken off the board because otherwise all mutants are immortal. I have so many questions but this was a great issue. 👍
Thank God, Xavier is not a traitor!!!
I love XMen Comics. But this shit is all over the place. They need a pivot Asap. If all Humans are to die. Doesn’t that kill off Avengers, FF, Spider-Man, etc. They don’t think shit out they just write! Hickman leaving screwed the X-men. He did FF so much Justice. They should’ve paid him whatever to have continuity.
As much as i love the Xmen, and how i appreciate your reviews, the writers are making this story ao confusong and messy. I am having a really hard time trying to follow what is going on. Its like its really rushed , not well thought out, and just all over the place. Please keep up the good work, thank you for your explanations, and until the next time, Make Mine Marvel!
It really shouldn’t be like this for the Phoenix to resurrect. Like it should be able to just resurrect itself. However I do appreciate them making an attempt to link Rachel, Hope, and Jean in the story. Since they’re the three main hosts of the Phoenix (obviously Jean is the prime host) then it should be that as long as one of them is alive the Phoenix can just easily come back to that reality and they can resurrect each other.
tbf this is the first time someone has actually directly attacked the Phoenix in its own realm and actually "spilled its blood". Most of the time its like forced to appear and then fragmented with a laser or something.
@@mostcreative3680 except it didn’t make any sense that after the Jean Grey solo series she was still “dead” and then that weird zombie version of her on a leash is what Mother Righteous tried to sacrifice by killing.
Wolverine stealth kills about to reach SSS RANK... No detection to sentinels or Ai and hes human now basically ... How he carries adamantium around and takes its off no problem its COMICS
Xavier is making the ultimate play in this game with the Dominion and ORCHIS. Xavier might be a jerk, but he is also Right. The White Hot Room is basically the "closet" that they will shove Krakoa and its residents into. Its comic book limbo for mutants they don't need at the moment. That being said, i would prefer to see comic book title based on Arakko and the White Hot Room after all this is over. I'm tired of seeing mutants without a true home/nation/country being persecuted on earth - we have already had well over 50 years of that same story regurgitated over and over again.
I feel the same away but at this point I’d advise you to give up on that since either Marvel or some old and new writers will say “hey let’s go back to old school X Men with the mansion, brother of mutants, Trask and basic sentinels and genocides of mutants and their nations”. Why simple new audiences experience the storytelling and cause they can.
Then give up. They are going back to basics and without Krakoa. Krakoa will disappear after all this is said and done
And no, there is NO book or comic featuring Arakko or the WHR, the new era will move away from all of that
The humans got the avengers plus ah god 😂 they ain’t goin out like no sucka
I hope we can have a teamup of jean,Rachel and Hope going forward.
Doubt it since Rachel is joining X-FORCE with Betsy.
I hope it’s explained why the Phoenix was “ending” and the white hot room was basically turning into the upside down - why the rest of existence wasn’t affected, comics really are becoming too convoluted for their own good.
I hope the trade will collect these books in proper order
There will be a book in December which will have x men forever 1-4 and will be called immortal x men vol 5, but they also need an omnibus for this event because is so confusing the order they’re launching
Where is Doug btw ? Krakoa hid him too well 🤣 .
I think that doug will appear in next week’s x men 34 as krakoa is back to the island and the white hot room mutants need help the most they can get
they are being stuck so that resurrection is off the table, for now. hope is too big and important to stay there so probably eventually they'll be brought back.
I don t know what to believe with Xavier
But I do know that some X-men will be done with Xavier
2:11 Sinister all versions: Here's the deal I give you pain, trauma, suffering, betrayalband inhuman acts. For all that I received plot armor.
so... i been under impression that Charles killed Rachel so she can help with Phoenix resurrection but in the end she was not needed at all ^^^^ am I right?
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Xavier would never turn on his kids
Yes he does. All the time.
The short red hair is rachel and the long hair is hope? They really take after jean..
This story is like pulp fiction. All over the damn place
Adamantium armor not, it's probably not a good sign that he looks so much like the Silver Samurai right now.... the Silver Samurai has never won a fight. Ever.
It's not his adamantium armor that matters, it's his plot armor.
That's because Silver samurai is a BAD GUY and this will always be written to lose always
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw bad guys may not ever succeed in their nefarious plans, but they win fights all the time.
Not to mention you're incorrect about the Silver Samurai always being portrayed as a bad guy.
He's not.
It may not be the hero of a book and he may have to be in opposition against the heroes of the book, but he's not a particularly bad guy. Not as a character. He's just some HonorBound protector of some blah blah blah.
The reason he never wins is just cuz he sucks.
And looking like someone that sucks that much is a bad omen.
So Wolverine could be in trouble
@@i.am.not.herbert well, he's always portrayed as such and is a Yakuza member in case you forget, hence why he's always written as a bad guy
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw so was psylocke
This may be a dumb question, but when did Echo lose her connection to the Phoenix Force?
I don't remember when but I think they kinda just didn't mention it lol I'd have to check thought
@ 4:56 What ?😅
May want to rerecord at 4:56 just saying!
Ha I knew I wasn't the only one to catch that!
Lol can't rerecord it. Sometimes I dont annunciate properly lol
I'm still waiting for Legion to come back.
I think they’re about to do another Age of Apocalypse in the Future. This shit is getting boring. They need a pivot.
Maybe I’m misremembering but I thought there was only one phoenix force across the entire multiverse. Wouldn’t the end of one mean the end me of them all? So what’s all this fragments of phoenix from different timelines?
Yeah you can’t think to hard on this kind of stuff it is Marvel after all
I can explain this, actually. Or atleast tried to as their has been many Retcons to the Phoenix. However, I think this was also explained in JD when Jean was dying once again.
No, there are multiple Phoenixes across the Multiverse as seen in JASON Aaron's Avengers run
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw incorrect. There's actually 1.
When the Marvel vs was started, the PF was born from the light that came after.(along with Darkenss, which is getting or should be explained in Storms story ark with the Shadow king. ComicBreakdown did a video talking about it)
There's only 1 PF across all universes ad of the latest changes.
However, all life is comprised of remnants of the PF. Also was touched on when Jean was dying and had flashbacks on where u she went wrong and found out that everything she went through was because it needed to happen. (Again, Comicbreakdown did a great job recapping this as well, and there's a video for this as well)
We learned more of the Phand how it's essentially grants and creates life. The reason why Mother Righteous traveled to the White Hot Room. It's essentially a Hub for the Phoenix Force.
I can't remember if it's this series or JD where it's explained that there's a crystal that's essentially a nexus point for all the Phoenix force users across universes.
Long story short, there's 1 PF and each universe has remnants of it.
U can learn more about it by watching Comic breakdown as much as u can. E actually went over all the lines that explained this I am simply recapping what happened in some of his videos dating back to JD
ALSO THIS IS IMPORTANT:
When it comes down to what is correct and what's not correct, we should go by the recent MAJOR storyline or flagship story they are pushing as that will have the most up-to-date standards and information for what Marvel wants to keep pushing. For ex: the Shadow King, which we saw in Storm series he or rather the forces of which he represents was altered and now hes much different than what we originally believed(can I even say he or is it they)
So basically, there may have been mutiple, but it's whatever Marvel wants the writers to push in which ever series they think it's relevant an the time
It's going to be so amazing to have Jean grey come back to life and have a reunion with Cyclops and he's going to be so happy
No, they won't. After all this is done, Jean and Scott will go their separate ways! Cyclops in the main X-men book by Jed Mckay, while Jean will be in her own solo book by Stephanie Philips
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mwthey’ll still be married. She’s a universal force of nature she can always drop by earth to spend some time with Scott in Alaska and then drop in on Logan in Louisiana.
Scott is going to be so happy! He knew she wasn’t going to stay dead though she never does lol
@@felixlopez7908 no, she won't. She will be busy doing stuff in space and therefore will not have time "to drop by on Earth". So no (read the latest Solicits if you don't believe me!)
@@felixlopez7908 yes, but they will not be together as Scott will leading a team together with Magneto in Alaska while Jean goes on a cosmic odyssey through space
The Xmen comics are so confusing. I thought Jean was already resurrected with the pheonix. I would've sworn she came back to life already
This is dumb. If Phoenix can “fade away” then every entity in marvel should have an expiration date too.
dead x-men and x-men forever should have been combined into one and made the "fall of the house of X" book whilst what's been going in the current book should have just been put into duggan's x-men book since it seems so inconsequential or at least not that important to the other event books.
Im sorry am i missing something here ? Phoenix can beat the Enigmas yet the "ALL POWERFUL" Enigmas are stated to be more powerful than the one above all themselves...How is it working, is phoenix the kryptonite to Enigmas ?? As far as i saw it Enigmas are praise for their powerful ability but didint do anything on a "cosmic level" the mutants shouldnt be dealing with this, the Entire Universe should like Avengers and Entities and such like Eternity and at least TLT
I kno u meant Enigma, but that ain't what u said sir
Ha bro, at about 4:55 seconds mark you missed the 'm' when you said, "they listened to Enigma's plan."
Take a moment to listen to what that sounds like.
Ya it doesn't sound great lmao 🤣
this makes no sense. the phoenix is the giver of life and death. its eternal and now all of a sudden it can die permenantly :/ ok bad writing
This plan is absurd lol Kill the Phoenix when it’s dead to create eternal life for it. What?? Encode a Phoenix blueprint into Krakoa from Prodigy’s exposure to the M’Kraan crystal so that they can recreate the Phoenix after killing it. Huh?? I read this issue. I heard this video. And none of this makes any sense lol
10:00 this art is nice. What’s it from?
Xavier: The best way to deceive your enemy is to deceive your friends.
ca-val-ry
Yup that's what I said lol
4:56 n word?
12:30 Not Really good I wasn't really feeling it This idea that humans die for the Phoenix Or whatever I think this is just going to continue a conflict that is continuously on for the last decade or so but it's getting boring i want something new out of this conflict Like maybe more good humans But we can't have that because we have to have bad humans And they are the villains of the X-Man franchise This is really getting to be a trope now. 😮💨
Humans aren't dying for the Phoenix. They are dying so mutants can live and save everyone from dying.
@comicbreakdown Yeah I get that but they're doing something that's just going to further cause conflict in the future. 🤨
Third 🥉
Serious question are you under the impression that this is good?
I enjoyed it. It's ok if you don't.
@@comicbreakdown Answer me. Thats not an answer. IS this GOOD xmen?
If I enoy something, then yes it is good. If I didn't enjoy something, then it's not good.