Clint Smith mentioned that he knew some Korean War vets saying that when you have thousands of Chinese pounding drums and lobbing grenades you don't hear the ping.
I believe it was Clint Smith whom once said this when addressing the M1 ping myth "you've just fired 8 rounds of .30-06 Everyone around you is now deaf."
I've heard and even observed a different, beneficial aspect of the M1 ping: knowing sooner when you're out. In a firefight, or even a speed shoot on the range, it's really easy to lose track of how many shots you've made as your focus is on acquiring the next target. Even if you don't hear the ping, a bit of metal flying up in front of your face can be a really good visual cue to the shooter to reload. I've noticed shooting my Enfield No.4 Mk1* that has a 10 round mag, it's very easy to loose track of your shot count, and due to the cock on close, ending up with a dry fire is easier than you'd think. I'd say the clip flying up is no more detrimental to the shooter than the bolt holding open on an AR-15 or the slide locking back on a pistol; it lets the shooter know they're out, and let's face it, if the enemy pops out, it'll be because the ear-splitting gunfire has stopped, not because of any ping or visual cue (they're keeping their head down anyway, so why would they see anything?).
If your enemy knows to listen for a drowned out ping that follows a gunshot- a very audible ping that precedes no gunshot is just outright suspicious, and that's if you even heard that. Unless you're facing a Call of Duty player performing a ill-timed reload (then by all means press down on the toggle button for a bayonet charge).
You CAN hear the ping but it's not the empty clip it's the frequencies you will no longer be able to hear after firing many rounds of .30-06 right next to your ear.
The worst Fudds I've encountered are the ancient Fudds at the shotgun range. I like to shoot clays with my 12ga Mossberg 500 FLEX (28" barrel coyote tan water fowl model with RealTree camo furniture, so you can picture it), which also has a 6 shot low profile low weight side saddle I mounted to the receiver. So a damn nice rugged hunting shotgun. Well, the Fudds with their $2,000-$3,000 (or more) over and under break barrel shotguns scowl at me, and are all, "Whatcha doin' with dat mossy-berg? Don'tcha know that's a BEDROOM shotgun? It don't belong on the range! Why don't you have a proper trap gun like dis 'ere Benelli?" In my mind, I'm saying, "What, you're allowed to use your wall decoration but I can't use my battle AND hunting proven trusty pump action? Fuck off." In reality, I smile and say, "Beautiful morning to shoot some clays, isn't it?" Then proceed to imagine each of the clays as that Fudd's stupid head flying out there. Very therapeutic.
That reminds Me..... My Brother and I were Shooting Clays with our K Mart Mossberg 500 S and a Couple of Lawyer Types were next to us with the Latest Red Labels and Italian O/U .... We were Busting 23 out of 25 Each and Every set They around 18. We were letting our Brass Fly while they were Scooping up the Brass Like Some Kids grabbin Halloween Candy! We could afford to let it go because at the Time the 500s were around $169 Bucks We could afford to shoot ! Let the good times Roll Semper Fi
I would've told them at least the mossberg can shoot what my dad calls "field loads". How my dad knows trap guns can't shoot them is because a co worker was shooting waterfowl with one and yes it may have worked... But only for 2 shots as the gun didn't work after that point
I feel sorry for saying this, but the M1 Garand is ruined for me. It is like one of the legs of the Fuddology Holy Trinity. "The M1 Garand, The Colt M1911, and the Holy *(Insert absurd caliber)* Revolver."
You are the best channel dedicated for milsurp as of today. I was shocked when the dudes at the range called my 1903 an old musket, we need more people to appreciate milsurp
1). Ouch I felt stab at the ATF paratrooper gear (I bought some M42s off a guy we’re the same size and stuff he even had a M1 clip in the chest pocket even though he was a squad leader with the Thompson which made me laugh when you mentioned it) but I know better then to trust a urban legend. 2). I knew it was a myth through my own vigorous testing of throwing the clips by CoD wannabe airsoft players in a parking lot they didn’t notice it and shit I barley noticed it myself when I was firing the M1G with Ear Pro on. Loved your excellent simulation btw Mike.
Everytime I go to the range with my m1 I get stopped and told this by some older guy usually with his buddy. I keep switching between saying hey thats some interesting info to no thats complete bs please let me shoot in peace. Most times if I go against them im told I'm wrong or their family member in the war did it.
Another one I’ve heard is that “with the marines in the pacific early on they only had springfields so when they got m1 garands they would all only fire five shots and then pause, so the Japanese would think they’re all reloading and do a banzai charge and the marines would all shoot them with the last three rounds”
I bet this is said every weekend at some range or gunshop or gun show or other. Even when I was a young squirt watching documentaries on the top infantry rifles it seemed moronic to me to suggest a Ping is audible on a battlefield. The only scenario I can begin to see it plausible is 1 v 1 in a building.
They imitated that thar ping noise ta fewl them stoopid nahzees and tojos. Yes. This tiny noise is audible over the sounds of Browning Mgs, grenades, mortars, mausers, Thompson's, Arisakas, 88mm guns, 105 howitzer impacts, nambu lmgs, carcanos, roaring tank engines, screaming, crying, flamethrowers, air craft engines, shouting, and any other noise encountered in WW2. As a bonus it was used in Korea and in Vietnam by the ARVN so there are whole other lists of battlefield noise pollution that this tiny metallic object is louder than.
@@MikeB128 I watched an episode of Gun Stories where an older firearm historian explained how “many GIs lost their lives to the loud Garand ping giving away their position.” You’d think someone would do their goddamn research before speaking on a TV show. Made me cringe. Great video, Mike.
Yeah, you're going to hear a "ping" in the middle of a firefight...sure you are. "Achtung, I heard das ping, zee Amerikans vill haff to perform a three second clip recharge, attack" ! We had a guy in our platoon who would fart after every mag change, we lost a lot of good men because of him.
What if two soldiers worked in conjunction one taking a shot while the other simultaneously hit his helmet with the M clip but the other guy has almost a full clip? Thus fooling the enemy combatant into the open where he’s easily dispatched by the soldier that took the first shot with the simultaneous ping. Oh wait a minute... that’s impossible to time correctly and the enemy would never hear it anyway!
Now what if you are on patrol and want to set up a ambush that ping could use as a misdirection to lure out a rifle man or squad to investigate the sound of a rifle reload into a machine gun nest
I think the M1 with the biggest issue here is the Canadian one playing the place of an American one in the background. I swear to god this is not a hate comment merely an observation.
Except it’s a Canadian, almost fully raised in the US and he got all his firearms and mechanic knowledge from the US, plus the fact it wasn’t produced in Canada it isn’t a Canadian rifle.
Clint Smith mentioned that he knew some Korean War vets saying that when you have thousands of Chinese pounding drums and lobbing grenades you don't hear the ping.
Came for the Fudd Lore, stayed for a grown man playing with green army men.
You win comment of the year. We've officially reached the pinnacle of 2020.
I believe it was Clint Smith whom once said this when addressing the M1 ping myth "you've just fired 8 rounds of .30-06 Everyone around you is now deaf."
I've heard and even observed a different, beneficial aspect of the M1 ping: knowing sooner when you're out. In a firefight, or even a speed shoot on the range, it's really easy to lose track of how many shots you've made as your focus is on acquiring the next target. Even if you don't hear the ping, a bit of metal flying up in front of your face can be a really good visual cue to the shooter to reload.
I've noticed shooting my Enfield No.4 Mk1* that has a 10 round mag, it's very easy to loose track of your shot count, and due to the cock on close, ending up with a dry fire is easier than you'd think.
I'd say the clip flying up is no more detrimental to the shooter than the bolt holding open on an AR-15 or the slide locking back on a pistol; it lets the shooter know they're out, and let's face it, if the enemy pops out, it'll be because the ear-splitting gunfire has stopped, not because of any ping or visual cue (they're keeping their head down anyway, so why would they see anything?).
I appreciate the authentic gun sounds.
My dad used the M1 in WW2 said the ping was BS could not hear it from own rifle let alone a german how ever far away with ringing ears.
If your enemy knows to listen for a drowned out ping that follows a gunshot- a very audible ping that precedes no gunshot is just outright suspicious, and that's if you even heard that. Unless you're facing a Call of Duty player performing a ill-timed reload (then by all means press down on the toggle button for a bayonet charge).
Glad you made a video on this one, I still hear this stupid myth repeated every now snd then.
I remember seeing an interview where some japanese and german soldiers said they didn't even know the rifle made that ping.
I was at a range with my buddy shooting his garand, some guy walks up, asked “is that the rifle that goes ping?” “Umm yeah I think.”
Heard the fudd impression. Clicked like right away.
You CAN hear the ping but it's not the empty clip it's the frequencies you will no longer be able to hear after firing many rounds of .30-06 right next to your ear.
This is the most scientific gun video since Mattv2099's days.
Up there with carnikon
Playing toy figures with Mike B lol I love it
"Enter the science" with the army men made me bust out laughing and then the enbloc pinging off of the helmet made me cry laughing.
Pretty sure the only thing you hear after 8 rounds of 30-06 is tinnitus
One shot of .40 S&W did it for me
My grandpappy killed like 50 of 'em by throwing the clip at them!
The worst Fudds I've encountered are the ancient Fudds at the shotgun range. I like to shoot clays with my 12ga Mossberg 500 FLEX (28" barrel coyote tan water fowl model with RealTree camo furniture, so you can picture it), which also has a 6 shot low profile low weight side saddle I mounted to the receiver. So a damn nice rugged hunting shotgun.
Well, the Fudds with their $2,000-$3,000 (or more) over and under break barrel shotguns scowl at me, and are all, "Whatcha doin' with dat mossy-berg? Don'tcha know that's a BEDROOM shotgun? It don't belong on the range! Why don't you have a proper trap gun like dis 'ere Benelli?"
In my mind, I'm saying, "What, you're allowed to use your wall decoration but I can't use my battle AND hunting proven trusty pump action? Fuck off."
In reality, I smile and say, "Beautiful morning to shoot some clays, isn't it?" Then proceed to imagine each of the clays as that Fudd's stupid head flying out there. Very therapeutic.
In there defence a pump is crap for Clay's, definitely a better hunting gun though
That reminds Me..... My Brother and I were Shooting Clays with our K Mart Mossberg 500 S and a Couple of Lawyer Types were next to us with the Latest Red Labels and Italian O/U .... We were Busting 23 out of 25 Each and Every set They around 18.
We were letting our Brass Fly while they were Scooping up the Brass Like Some Kids grabbin Halloween Candy! We could afford to let it go because at the Time the 500s were around $169 Bucks We could afford to shoot ! Let the good times Roll Semper Fi
I would've told them at least the mossberg can shoot what my dad calls "field loads".
How my dad knows trap guns can't shoot them is because a co worker was shooting waterfowl with one and yes it may have worked... But only for 2 shots as the gun didn't work after that point
The moment you realize you just watched a grown man play with toy soldiers and you yourself enjoyed it.
I feel sorry for saying this, but the M1 Garand is ruined for me. It is like one of the legs of the Fuddology Holy Trinity. "The M1 Garand, The Colt M1911, and the Holy *(Insert absurd caliber)* Revolver."
I love how much spite went in to this video.
Even if you realized that one guy in a platoon etc. was out of ammo, it doesn’t exactly mean everyone is out of ammo.
You are the best channel dedicated for milsurp as of today. I was shocked when the dudes at the range called my 1903 an old musket, we need more people to appreciate milsurp
One time a guy working at a pawn shop told me the clip myth but the gun he was holding was an M1A.
1). Ouch I felt stab at the ATF paratrooper gear (I bought some M42s off a guy we’re the same size and stuff he even had a M1 clip in the chest pocket even though he was a squad leader with the Thompson which made me laugh when you mentioned it) but I know better then to trust a urban legend. 2). I knew it was a myth through my own vigorous testing of throwing the clips by CoD wannabe airsoft players in a parking lot they didn’t notice it and shit I barley noticed it myself when I was firing the M1G with Ear Pro on. Loved your excellent simulation btw Mike.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me it this was WW2 era POG lore and was believed by guys who didn't have the slightest chance of seeing combat
Everytime I go to the range with my m1 I get stopped and told this by some older guy usually with his buddy. I keep switching between saying hey thats some interesting info to no thats complete bs please let me shoot in peace. Most times if I go against them im told I'm wrong or their family member in the war did it.
I LOVE YOUR OLD FUDD IMPRESSIONS. That shits so funny
Another one I’ve heard is that “with the marines in the pacific early on they only had springfields so when they got m1 garands they would all only fire five shots and then pause, so the Japanese would think they’re all reloading and do a banzai charge and the marines would all shoot them with the last three rounds”
Nice sand table representation!
A big takeaway that I've made is that stupid gun myths and fuddlore really go hand in hand
I’ve shot a k98 with no ear protection, my ears rang for a solid 6 seconds after only one shot
I bet this is said every weekend at some range or gunshop or gun show or other. Even when I was a young squirt watching documentaries on the top infantry rifles it seemed moronic to me to suggest a Ping is audible on a battlefield. The only scenario I can begin to see it plausible is 1 v 1 in a building.
under 1k likes!? this mans videos have earned a ton more yall
No body
"Fuckdy bye" Mike B 2020
"Ping" huh?
When u go empty it make a noise
@@dccajc1 all I hear is EEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@dr.catmilk no, EEEEE is what you hear when your thumb gets cought by the receiver.
They imitated that thar ping noise ta fewl them stoopid nahzees and tojos.
Yes. This tiny noise is audible over the sounds of Browning Mgs, grenades, mortars, mausers, Thompson's, Arisakas, 88mm guns, 105 howitzer impacts, nambu lmgs, carcanos, roaring tank engines, screaming, crying, flamethrowers, air craft engines, shouting, and any other noise encountered in WW2. As a bonus it was used in Korea and in Vietnam by the ARVN so there are whole other lists of battlefield noise pollution that this tiny metallic object is louder than.
I completely agree with you
We need more toy soldier demonstrations in these videos lol
Fuckin love that fudd impersonation.
We might need a appendix video about some of successful samples happened in Asia Battlefield.
The Germans in WWII: PANZER 12:00
Germans in this video: Aah, ooh, eah
I can't even hear the ping from the guys to my left and right in a cmp match.
Fudd smoker cough was on key
Your sound effects were hillarious.
Hickok45 said it so it must be true.
Lol did he really?
He stated it was a myth when he said it
You can always find these myths in comments on videos about the m1 garand and it makes me mad
Yup, same here. People are stupid.
@@MikeB128 I watched an episode of Gun Stories where an older firearm historian explained how “many GIs lost their lives to the loud Garand ping giving away their position.” You’d think someone would do their goddamn research before speaking on a TV show. Made me cringe. Great video, Mike.
Wow, never heard that one before... and I’m old
Best debunking ever
Just watch a grown man play with plastic army men at 4 in the morning.....kept me entertained
2:42 I think I need to change my pants
Bloke on the range did a semi practical demonstration of why this myth was trash.
I subscribed because of this video.
Yes! Thank you for the mommy's basement reference!
It takes what three seconds to reload sounds like we all got some anger issues
Projecting much?
The toy soldiers reenaction was a really nice touch! Someone should animate it, would be so funny xD
A rock or something. Sounds like a part of a recipe I remember from some years ago.
Important ingredient in every MRE.
If someone can confuse the cocking of a Mauser for a cricket then it's feasible that they would be tricked by the clip.
I fired my M1 once without earpro...only once. So endeth that lesson.
Yeah, you're going to hear a "ping" in the middle of a firefight...sure you are.
"Achtung, I heard das ping, zee Amerikans vill haff to perform a three second clip recharge, attack" !
We had a guy in our platoon who would fart after every mag change, we lost a lot of good men because of him.
5:07 careful dude!! Might get demonized for violence on UA-cam!!
Hey, I’ve seen this one before
Top notch science
damn mike u got more arrows in the thumbnail than a scotty kilmer video
BUT HES LACKING THE DECIBLES FROM NO EAR PRO LIKE SCOTTY
Next scotty kilmer video: WHY I KILLED MY WIFE (HER BODY IS IN MY BASEMENT)
REV UP YOUR ENBLOCS!
Disdain for Fudd's
What if two soldiers worked in conjunction one taking a shot while the other simultaneously hit his helmet with the M clip but the other guy has almost a full clip? Thus fooling the enemy combatant into the open where he’s easily dispatched by the soldier that took the first shot with the simultaneous ping. Oh wait a minute... that’s impossible to time correctly and the enemy would never hear it anyway!
You obviously commented before you watched the video...
YEE YEE pRaIsE dAlE been waiting on this gem.
Do you have those M1942 Paratrooper uniforms in 3x? Asking for a friend.
Those guys were deaf as a post the loud ass m1 made shure of that
Now what if you are on patrol and want to set up a ambush that ping could use as a misdirection to lure out a rifle man or squad to investigate the sound of a rifle reload into a machine gun nest
Just stop.
@@MikeB128 just a hypothetical probably never happened wanted to add the algorithm with engagement on UA-cam
I appreciate it.
It's 3 AM and I'm watching a grown man play with toy soldiers.
Never would’ve expected you at your age to play with toys...
Just kiddin’ Mike
"Definitely not mommy's basement" lol
Not Mommy’s basement, not watching😂
I've seen another video and you can't hear the ping at any reasonable distance.
timmy fuckin toots-a-lot
I just watched a man play with army toys to disprove a fudd myth
If the military tells you to use a rock or something, you use a rock or something.
It's not just boomers and fudds. Everyone loves this exceptional rifle.
I wouldn't call it "Exceptional", it's a good rifle, but the fucking fanboy-dom that surrounds it is nauseating.
Didn’t someone test this on myth busters or someone’s UA-cam channel?
Be werry werry quiet. I'm pinging nahsees.
2:40 fuck I came in my pants a little
B...but I was playing cod ww2 and i heard the enemy's garand ping and I lept out and no scoped him. You clearly don't know what ur talking about
You talk like an infantry NCO - I feel at home here
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I beleive facts over truth.
I think the M1 with the biggest issue here is the Canadian one playing the place of an American one in the background.
I swear to god this is not a hate comment merely an observation.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Except it’s a Canadian, almost fully raised in the US and he got all his firearms and mechanic knowledge from the US, plus the fact it wasn’t produced in Canada it isn’t a Canadian rifle.
They are same people who think Al Gore invented the internet
5x ATF M42😝😝😝😝😝