Great explanation of recording process and why your TOC got obliterated. Nice camera work with the lighting to show the LASER at work together with the recording head.
I know this was an annoying one for you, but I sure appreciate it! I love minidisc dearly, ever since my paper route funded my first one back in 1997. I'd always welcome another MD video. =)
I saw a video some years ago introducing the Sony MiniDisk on Techmoan's YT channel, and those things have fascinated me ever since. Seeing and hearing your explanation on how they work is the cherry on top of the MD knowledge cake. Thank you very much for sharing. 🙂
I use my two MiniDisc players (Sony MDS-JE520 & MDS-JE330) almost every day and I'm very happy with the sound quality and easy use. They use ATRAC version 4.5 which is one of the last common versions with much improved sound quality.😊
👍🏻😎I've got a Sony MZ-R37. I love it, but I would hate to have to ever work on it. They still bring about $300 for one. I bought it about 4 years ago for $100 in like new condition. Thanks for the video!
wish i still had my old mini disc plyer and discs. i had recorded dozens of them filled with hundreds uppn hundreds of my favorite songs but when i went into the hospital they only got part of my stuff saved and those weren't included
Thanks for another great video keeps me inspired about 5 years ago I bought a Yamaha dspa 1 amplifier out of a back of a snow drift in a pickup truck it was a junker and I dried it out and very acted up and display was all gibberish I took it apart and reflowed 132 pins everyone was cracked and it works like a million bucks it was a lot of work but it was worth it it's a really nice amplifier I took the $80 risk the amplifier was $2,800 new it's great have a great day
Funny episode. When one thing leads to another and another. Nice little JVC. I have a Sharp with a closure issue so my fruend gave me his Sony. Works with an AA battery! Much better than the expensive Sharp rechargeables.
I have a Sony MZ-RH1. Of course with a defect gum battery. Also it just reboots when being touched on slightly. And it goes into recording protect now and then. There are software that works connecting it to Windows 11 to transfer files. This format was really dead on stable to save recordings for future use, but now I dont really know. I did never ever experienced any read errors from this format, even before I went to HI-MD, and did not experienced any read errors after this.
This was a cool format, and was a lot more reliable than CD-Rs ended up being. It's too bad the portable players are mostly the typical delicate 90s electronics full of tiny fiddly unobtainium moving parts that are basically unfixable outside their probably 3-5 year design life. I had a Sony portable that died around the time iPods were getting big, and anyone I talked to who was qualified to fix it basically shrugged their shoulders regarding repair (ie just throw it in the trash and buy an iPod). I had a bunch of recordings I made off the radio in the US, Canada, and parts of Europe and if they still exist they're probably rotting a box in one of my relatives' basement. The prerecorded discs had the audio data pressed in and were read with the laser, just like a tiny CD. They were pretty hard to find here, I occasionally saw them at the big record stores in downtown Toronto but nowhere else.
Believe it or not, I somehow misplaced a box full of MDs on top of an old outdoor freezer. Two or three years later I found them wet and dirty in the box. Thinking they would be toast, I went ahead and brought them in to dry. Then dusted them off. To my surprise, they all worked perfectly! So don't give up on your old MDs. Some of the pre-recorded ones are worth a fortune too!
Fate has a way coming back and biting you right in the ass, this was payback for all those years you had that older gentleman work on those hard to see job's !! lol lol Keep up the great work 12volts, I enjoy your video's immensely.
@@gunnoir you would be surprised how good it was / is. Minidisk was excellent. I have a car minidisk player around here somewhere. The really tiny players were a little more fragile but they were pretty reliable.
Have a similar-sized SHARP MD unit that worked fine 10 or 12 years ago, but now when I put a MD in it either says TOC Error, or Occasionally No Disc. Haven't been able to figure out why, I opened it once a couple years ago, but maybe I'll give it another try!
This one like many others probably has done alot of hours used by for example by a DJ. One of my Sony MD recorders does the same but works fine with pre recorded titles.
Well i did discover that my machine went tits up again and had to replace the belt. That gives you an idea how much i use it. I have all this vintage gear that I really should get rid of because i just never use it anymore. I listen to music all day but it's all on computer these days or CD in megachangers.
@@12voltvids I am the same with a room full of older tech that I never use, the only ones that I keep going are the higher end Laserdisc players and a few receivers, the rest could do With going to anyone that accepts them as they are with no warranty.
Hi love your vids, just a small question, i never had any luck with Minidisc players as they all seem to break down on me. Most of Sony ones that broke down on me has the same issue. The standby red led is lit and nothing happens. I cannot insert a disc or eject and doesn't power on. About an year ago i got myself yet another Sony MDS-JE520. Was working great and the sound quality was as almost good as my Sony DAT. This one suffered the same fate, red light on and nothing happens. I did some reading you can enter to a diagnostic section by pressing down the enter button and it sure does light up the display for bunch of inbuilt diagnostic options. However, after exiting from that, still the same thing. Can please give me your thoughts on what could be the issue? One person said the micro processor is fried. Could that be the case? Your input on this is highly appreciated. Look forward to hearing from you soon. Cheers
So it is magnetic-optical. i thought minidisc was like a mini-cd. i never had minidisc player. And it takes an hour to record an hour disc? not like cd-r recording at 52x speed
Sony called it Minidisc, and yet the MZ-1 player is a great big lump of a thing. Much larger and heavier than the CD discmans Sony was making at the time. .
Its a very odd system, but reliable if taken care of. I looked at a faulty player donkeys years ago and decided it was beyond my understanding. I'm stupid but not that stupid lol.
Sometimes you can recover the music from a MD where the TOC gets trashed. Here's a YT video showing the process. ua-cam.com/video/Zy5RpxELNrY/v-deo.html
The thing is i don't have a md recorder that the disk can be removed and swapped. All 3 of mine are power load and the only way to remove is to hit eject. The portable like shown no problem all you need to do is keep the switch closed that detects when ur is open.
Another junk very cheap device I see. I have never worked on anything JVC before and the only thing I have is a JVC boombox from 1997 with a CD and double cassette.
Looking at the size difference is the reason I almost got on the MD train. The size and weight of the first MD players were huge and the audio quality was worse than CDs. Newer units got smaller and the audio quality got close to raw digital. Portable CD players were large and prone to skipping. MD players had great shock protection. Metal cassettes on my Sony walkman performed really well, but it got real tempting towards the time that JVC one was made. MP3s killed that plan.
@@12voltvids I hope you're doing well. I was just wondering if you happen to offer repair services for send-in items? I apologize for using this conversation for this inquiry, but I wasn't sure how else to reach out to you ;)
I was in Japan in 1996 and was amazed at the Technology that was available to the public. Mini disk was available everywhere.
Loved the small size and sound quality of the later versions
I loved MiniDisk back in the days. In the early 90s it felt like alien technology ...
Old floppy disls 1.44mb with more storage
Great explanation of recording process and why your TOC got obliterated. Nice camera work with the lighting to show the LASER at work together with the recording head.
I know this was an annoying one for you, but I sure appreciate it! I love minidisc dearly, ever since my paper route funded my first one back in 1997. I'd always welcome another MD video. =)
I have a few sealed 80 minute disks. Should crack one open and make a recording on it.
I saw a video some years ago introducing the Sony MiniDisk on Techmoan's YT channel, and those things have fascinated me ever since. Seeing and hearing your explanation on how they work is the cherry on top of the MD knowledge cake. Thank you very much for sharing. 🙂
MDs are the bees knees. Only format better is cassette but... Good luck with that. 😆
I use my two MiniDisc players (Sony MDS-JE520 & MDS-JE330) almost every day and I'm very happy with the sound quality and easy use. They use ATRAC version 4.5 which is one of the last common versions with much improved sound quality.😊
The atrac 1 on the mz1 sounded pretty bad.
👍🏻😎I've got a Sony MZ-R37. I love it, but I would hate to have to ever work on it. They still bring about $300 for one. I bought it about 4 years ago for $100 in like new condition. Thanks for the video!
Only recently removed the MD autochanger from my car, it's still working though.
wish i still had my old mini disc plyer and discs. i had recorded dozens of them filled with hundreds uppn hundreds of my favorite songs but when i went into the hospital they only got part of my stuff saved and those weren't included
Regarding bad viewing on small components, I have the same problem. I consider to get either an optical loupe, or an USB microscope.
Thanks for another great video keeps me inspired about 5 years ago I bought a Yamaha dspa 1 amplifier out of a back of a snow drift in a pickup truck it was a junker and I dried it out and very acted up and display was all gibberish I took it apart and reflowed 132 pins everyone was cracked and it works like a million bucks it was a lot of work but it was worth it it's a really nice amplifier I took the $80 risk the amplifier was $2,800 new it's great have a great day
Very nice and informative video as always. I like how you always call the "case" a "cabinet" :D
Funny episode. When one thing leads to another and another. Nice little JVC. I have a Sharp with a closure issue so my fruend gave me his Sony. Works with an AA battery! Much better than the expensive Sharp rechargeables.
I love my minidisc MDS-JE530 still use it weekly
I’ve got one of these! Brill little player never been any trouble
I scored a Sony MZ-RH1 new in box and the OLED are nice and bright.
I have a Sony MZ-RH1. Of course with a defect gum battery. Also it just reboots when being touched on slightly. And it goes into recording protect now and then. There are software that works connecting it to Windows 11 to transfer files. This format was really dead on stable to save recordings for future use, but now I dont really know. I did never ever experienced any read errors from this format, even before I went to HI-MD, and did not experienced any read errors after this.
Looks like an interesting mix of Sony and Hitachi chips in that JVC!
Did JVC make any of their own chips?
SVHS I believe @@12voltvids
This was a cool format, and was a lot more reliable than CD-Rs ended up being. It's too bad the portable players are mostly the typical delicate 90s electronics full of tiny fiddly unobtainium moving parts that are basically unfixable outside their probably 3-5 year design life. I had a Sony portable that died around the time iPods were getting big, and anyone I talked to who was qualified to fix it basically shrugged their shoulders regarding repair (ie just throw it in the trash and buy an iPod). I had a bunch of recordings I made off the radio in the US, Canada, and parts of Europe and if they still exist they're probably rotting a box in one of my relatives' basement.
The prerecorded discs had the audio data pressed in and were read with the laser, just like a tiny CD. They were pretty hard to find here, I occasionally saw them at the big record stores in downtown Toronto but nowhere else.
Even the self recorded disks were read with the laser. Phase change.
Believe it or not, I somehow misplaced a box full of MDs on top of an old outdoor freezer. Two or three years later I found them wet and dirty in the box. Thinking they would be toast, I went ahead and brought them in to dry. Then dusted them off. To my surprise, they all worked perfectly! So don't give up on your old MDs. Some of the pre-recorded ones are worth a fortune too!
Fate has a way coming back and biting you right in the ass, this was payback for all those years you had that older gentleman work on those hard to see job's !! lol lol Keep up the great work 12volts, I enjoy your video's immensely.
He was the audio guy i was the video guy. That's the way it was. After he left I had to do it all.
@@12voltvids Oohh sure 12volts !! Just kidding, although I never like the Mini disc, it always seemed to fragile, always waiting for it to breakdown.
@@gunnoir you would be surprised how good it was / is. Minidisk was excellent. I have a car minidisk player around here somewhere. The really tiny players were a little more fragile but they were pretty reliable.
the 2nd unit being broken when you went to use it to make a new disk - is something typically that happens to me. 😅
I’ll stick with my deck MD. The portables feel so delicate and prone to something going wrong.
Go and drop it on the floor and then get back to me.
28:36 i know that song. it was the soundtrack to a little rollercoaster building game i used to play as a kid that now has nostalgic memories for me
Have a similar-sized SHARP MD unit that worked fine 10 or 12 years ago, but now when I put a MD in it either says TOC Error, or Occasionally No Disc. Haven't been able to figure out why, I opened it once a couple years ago, but maybe I'll give it another try!
This one like many others probably has done alot of hours used by for example by a DJ. One of my Sony MD recorders does the same but works fine with pre recorded titles.
Nothing is more annoying than having your only test disc damaged or wiped by a piece of junk that is not worth fixing, I feel your frustration.😢
Well i did discover that my machine went tits up again and had to replace the belt. That gives you an idea how much i use it. I have all this vintage gear that I really should get rid of because i just never use it anymore. I listen to music all day but it's all on computer these days or CD in megachangers.
@@12voltvids I am the same with a room full of older tech that I never use, the only ones that I keep going are the higher end Laserdisc players and a few receivers, the rest could do With going to anyone that accepts them as they are with no warranty.
Hi love your vids, just a small question, i never had any luck with Minidisc players as they all seem to break down on me. Most of Sony ones that broke down on me has the same issue. The standby red led is lit and nothing happens. I cannot insert a disc or eject and doesn't power on. About an year ago i got myself yet another Sony MDS-JE520. Was working great and the sound quality was as almost good as my Sony DAT. This one suffered the same fate, red light on and nothing happens. I did some reading you can enter to a diagnostic section by pressing down the enter button and it sure does light up the display for bunch of inbuilt diagnostic options. However, after exiting from that, still the same thing. Can please give me your thoughts on what could be the issue? One person said the micro processor is fried. Could that be the case? Your input on this is highly appreciated. Look forward to hearing from you soon. Cheers
So it is magnetic-optical. i thought minidisc was like a mini-cd. i never had minidisc player. And it takes an hour to record an hour disc? not like cd-r recording at 52x speed
Magneto-optical drive. Its a real time recorder like tape or direct to audio CD on stand alone recorder.
Couldn't you just play back one of your CDR's and have the MD digital input auto record and ID the tracks ?
Surre but that would require digging out a CD player. Actually i could do it on that combo stereo that has CD and md
Sony called it Minidisc, and yet the MZ-1 player is a great big lump of a thing. Much larger and heavier than the CD discmans Sony was making at the time. .
Its a very odd system, but reliable if taken care of.
I looked at a faulty player donkeys years ago and decided it was beyond my understanding.
I'm stupid but not that stupid lol.
Hi, can u help my sony ccd trv248e always showing error codes E61:10, where the problem on this? and how to fix it? thanks!
Don't know that code.
@12voltvids i tired to fix it 😔
@@dikarustam tried google?
This unit has a lot of Sony chips on it !
Gee i wonder why.
Interesting😃
Где скачать треки что на вашем диске? Спасибо.
Musicbakery.com
Sometimes you can recover the music from a MD where the TOC gets trashed. Here's a YT video showing the process. ua-cam.com/video/Zy5RpxELNrY/v-deo.html
The thing is i don't have a md recorder that the disk can be removed and swapped. All 3 of mine are power load and the only way to remove is to hit eject. The portable like shown no problem all you need to do is keep the switch closed that detects when ur is open.
Use a prerecorded disc to test - you can't erase them or record on them -
Too bad they are all copyright protected.
@@j.t.cooper2963 years ago I made a device to strip the SCMS bits from the digital stream which allowed recording from protected sources.
And just what would that do? If i played a copyright track yt would flag it and take it down.
@@12voltvids I was referring to the SCMS system that prevents digital dubbing (the same system used with CDs, DVDs etc)
@@MrRobgum smca never bothered me. I use a tascam da40. No copy protection on that or any other pro unit.
Human you are never in the good mood when you stuffs gets messed up like us all.
I'm always in a good mode till I have to deal with crap i can barely see.
Electronics are never a simple repair.
Another junk very cheap device I see. I have never worked on anything JVC before and the only thing I have is a JVC boombox from 1997 with a CD and double cassette.
Looking at the size difference is the reason I almost got on the MD train. The size and weight of the first MD players were huge and the audio quality was worse than CDs. Newer units got smaller and the audio quality got close to raw digital. Portable CD players were large and prone to skipping. MD players had great shock protection. Metal cassettes on my Sony walkman performed really well, but it got real tempting towards the time that JVC one was made. MP3s killed that plan.
Now a minidisk that could load up mp3 files on disk would have been the cats ass.
@@12voltvids I hope you're doing well. I was just wondering if you happen to offer repair services for send-in items? I apologize for using this conversation for this inquiry, but I wasn't sure how else to reach out to you ;)
@@LoGoBDA that's where most of these cone from. I am keeping the post office in business.
@@12voltvids how can I find the postal address? Or how can you share it with me? I may have one or two or many 🤪 repairs I need help with 👍
@@LoGoBDA contact me by email