A National Popular Vote Compact is a Dereliction of State Duty
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Everyone knows if Trump wins the popular vote they'll abandon the compact immediately.
Indeed, Damian.
Vile, leftist hypocrites.
I could be wrong but I don't think it takes affect, until they have 270 points under the compact.
@@cledgefenrir5681 you are right. But they will drop the idea when they see the other team wins the popular vote too
@@cledgefenrir5681 So it only works if you already won?
@Duranous. I mean it doesn't apply until there are 270 worth electorate under the compact, which they don't have yet. So those that have agreed to the compact it doesn't take affect yet.
We are not a democracy, we are a representative republic. A popular vote would invalidate anyone who doesn't live in NYC, Chicago, or LA
That's the idea: because their elections are fortified against any Republican.
CA, NY, PA, OH and FL would pick the president.
Functionally we are a democracy and have been for a very long time. The words on the paper mean nothing, power means everything, and those with the power are pretty hell bent on democracy over republicanism and have been for longer than any of us have been alive. Easier to game a democracy and stay in power in a democracy.
Well, I live in Florida, hopefully that would move the needle in Trumps favor. Covfefe.
Yeap, I've often heard people say "people vote, not land" in response to this. This fails to take into account the fact that people want to fit in with those around them, and the groups views become the individual views. It also fails to take into account that more people voting ≠ better results. More idiots voting for something objectively bad long term will cause long term bad thing to happen.
They often seem to believe that everyone's views are equal and just as valid as the next person, and I definitely understand that but its just simply not true. Most people have no idea how any of our systems function, who gets elected is more so about who can sway their team better, not who actually knows how to solve issues.
Trump wins the popular vote* “suddenly the national popular compact doesn’t apply” the same states
Ha d the same thought. The libtards love this kind of shit until it dawns on them that it goes both ways.
Or just any Republicans.
Just like Trudeau when he wanted proportional representation. He won but would have lost in a proportional system, so he just kept it the way it is.
The whole point of the electoral college is to protect the rural, less populated states from tyranny of the more urban more populated states. The founding fathers were absolutely brilliant in realizing that rural people and city people have different interests and both need to be heard, but one shouldn't be at the expense of the other.
Not quite 'urban v rural' it was that 'most populous don't overwhelm least populous'. Otherwise a handful of heavily populated States would outvote all the other states.
Agree, but I often wonder how many votes are suppressed by red voters not bothering in deep blue states.
@@uingaeoc3905 why do you think the least populous were the least populous? rural dwellers.
@@thurin84 Not at all - look at when the Constitution was drafted - the Thirteen States were largely the same in urban-rural demographics. New York was no larger than any other city, I think not as large as Boston then, and UNYS no different than Pennsylvania. the founding fathers could nevertheless guess might be skewed towards a larger State permanently.
You also have to remember that the EC itself was meant to have a different composition to that of Congress, the House, proportionate to population and that of the Senate at 2 members per State no matter what size.
Protect the electoral college at _all_ costs.
And as RazörFist and Tarl say, each state should have its own electoral college for statewide elections.
Watch Trump win the popular vote and Maine goes to trump...
What they mean is their electoral votes go to the popular vote winner IF it’s a democrat
This doesn't go into effect until they hit 270. They are at 209.
When MI and NC sign on, they will be a at 240.
Lol the level of COPE.
@@dangelini1137 Wouldn't be any because they will immediately abandon the deal and still not give trump the votes lol.
The Democratic Party will always try to change the rules to win more, by all means necessary.
Yep
"Everyone's happy when it benefits them" sums up humanity in a nutshell 😮🌰
Tbf that's fine I support advocating for yourself. Retarded to do anything but. What am I supposed to do work and save for my neighbor?
It's also Unconstitutional in its present form.
Article I, Section 10:
"No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, *enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State,* or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
Interesting
They just need to try it in a court where the judge makes blanket statements about parts of the constitution 'not existing' in their courtroom like that one in New york that said 'the 2A doesn't apply here'.
Not going to lie; I would find it funny as hell if New York and California had to give their votes to Trump because he won the popular vote.
They'd never let that happen.
It doesn't apply in that circumstance
“Democracy is the theory that the average ignorant voter knows what they want and deserve to get it good and hard” - HL Mencken
Ok, Hillary.
The guy who quoted this might be a cult leader, but he's not wrong, lol (edited for snowflake UA-cam censors):
"Democracy is not the highest goal. It is better than dictatorial regimes, it is better than monarchies, but it is not the end of the journey - because democracy basically means government by the people, of the people, for the people, but the people are reet-rded. So let us say: government by the reet-rded, for the reet-rded, of the reet-rded.
Democracy cannot be the highest possibility man can attain. It is good in comparison to other forms of government that have preceded it, but not something that can succeed it. I call that meritocracy. I want a government by the people of merit. And merit is a very rare quality."
Osho, From Bondage to Freedom, Ch 31, Q 2 (excerpt)
Isn't that disenfranchisement? Id love to see how quick this compact ends if Trump wins the popular vote.
There's a reason the electoral college exists. It's to give the smaller and less populated states a voice in national topics and elections.
I always get a laugh when Florida is brought up. The issue was that Gore only wanted specific counties to have recounts. The Supreme court told him it was all, or none. At which point he gave up. Tells you something about how he expected the recounts to go thanks to his people.
To be fair, there were a couple of counties that had really stupid ballots.... the butterfly ballot for example where the person's name was written on one side>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but you checked it to the opposite side, not underneath which made more sense. It was a hideous ballot that should have never been approved.
The reason the dems want the compact is they don't think they will ever lose the popular vote. The possibility that it will backfire has never occurred to them.
Well to be fair they are probably right.
When half the population is beholden to them to survive (both through the handouts they offer, the protections from certain laws such as immigration and because they are constantly destroying all paths to upward mobility creating an ever widening gap between the rich and poor with a shrinking middle class that's constantly being kicked off the platform by increasingly stringent regulations that only the richest of companies can begin to abide by) that's not exactly a bad bet.
They can have a popular vote if we get to pick 10 cities to kick out of the union.
Heavily agreed.
They can't comprehend that they might not have the popular vote
Protect the electoral college at _all_ costs.
And as RazörFist and Tarl say, each state should have its own electoral college for statewide elections.
It’s so NYC, L.A., Chicago, Atlanta; don’t overpower the entire country.
Also imagine a state has a third party win. Well that third party now list that state since they didn't have the popular overall vote. This pretty much bans third parties in practice.
It bans everything except dems from winning.
Because they always carry the big urban centers CA, NY, PA, and possibly soon, TX.
I think that's the main point of it
@@BlueGamingRage Yep, thirds become more and more viable every election year, and depending on what happens at the end of this year you could see upwards of 40% of the population fully believing that the two party system is a rigged one party game, and I'm sure they fear what that would look like next election cycle even if they lock this one down.
If the federal government wasn't constantly overreaching, perhaps they wouldn't be blamed for everything. The federal government has overstepped the boundaries the entirety of my voting years, which is why so many people haven't bothered themselves taking their time to go to the polls to cast a ballot. They know their voice hasn't mattered since at least 1980.
At this point just let those states declare Biden the winner. This is ridiculous. If I was a Trump supporter in those states I would be furious.
"At this point just let those stxxes W.E.F. declare Biden the winner. They probably own the voting machines and bought off many of the politicians.
"We don't like Populist Candidates!!
...but we like this idea." 😅
Statewide electoral college would be amazing 🤤
Its treason
Were a republic of 50 countries. Fuck the popular vote
Exactly!!
What these States are saying is that we don't
care how the people of our State votes, we care more
about how the rest of the country votes, it's
unconstutional and would not hold up in court
Maine and Nebraska are the two states that split their electoral votes, right?
Yes
If I lived in any of these states, I would be FURIOUS.
The problem is that even the smaller states have governors that want to move to a national vote. The don’t care about their own state, they are loyal to the deep state.
Thanks for explaining this better than I ever did to my liberal friends. This popular vote for president seemed to really take off when Bush Jr got elected and got bigger when Hillary lost. Your also absolutely correct about democrats wanting things changed in their favor and bitching and moaning when their changes bite them in the ass.
Never bring a weapon to a fight that you are not willing to have turned against you.
"No State shall, without Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in times of Peace, *enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State*, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
--
United States Constitution, Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3
Most of these states have large population centers that are blue and red rural populations.
The Federalist Papers is a good read.
Always trying to change the f’king rules!!!!
But if Trump win the popular vote they will make up an excuse for it don’t count this time, they behave like bad people who can’t be trusted.
We would be governed by large cities.
The people that want this will starve.
It's also nakedly unconstitutional but since when has that stopped anything?
Don't tolerate anti constitutional actions.
I find it funny how many people think they have more wisdom than the founding fathers.
Exactly.
Democracy is not the voice of the people.
I wish there was a way DERELICTION OF CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY could be prosecuted.
We'd be a better country if we hadn't gone through the Biden Administration.
Absolutely ridiculous! The electors of a state should only reflect the vote within that state.
I said for years we should only have a county popular vote. For governor and US senate races. Who ever wins the most counties wins the governor or US senate race.
I also wonder if it might just bite them in the ass if this ever went through. How many folks in California don't bother to vote because the state always goes far left? They know their vote does not matter so why bother. The left may be wise to not give them a reason
States can't enter into any compact unless it's approved by Congress. Article 2 says the state Legislatures decide how to choose electors. There's 27 states controlled by Republicans if they just appointed their electors Trump would be unbeatable.
It would also end up with State A suing/disputing the results of State B's (and C etc) popular vote when things don't go their way.
The National Popular Vote is brought to you by the same chuckleheads that scream.
"If only our elected officials would stop the gridlock".
I don't understand why they hate their citizens so much.
Ugh, im not leavibg my home but man i hate this current regime. 72 hour wait periods predicated on a false flag situation, no gun sales after 8pm. High taxes.
sue
@@khatdubell have to be rich to sue. Money for filings, responding etc. Government has infinite stolen money to do.this
It's not the states it's the cities
Of COURSE it makes sense - as long as the game is rigged from the start!
You're many things, a favorite of mine is your talent and style as an educator. Thank you for another great video.
Start digging your little bunkers if u haven't already folks. Its squeaky-bum time.
The electoral college is extremely important. A popular vote, even in the most deep red states (as every single major city in every US city is blue), would solely vote in Democrats. Whether or not you are/agree with Democrats, you have to see how dangerous that would be to the US.
The worst prison to be in is LEAVENWORTH.
Cheaters gotta cheat
I would like to see each states electoral votes handed out as a percentage of voteing districts, rather than winner take all.
Given that interstate compacts are also explicitly banned in article 1 of the US constitution it happens to also be wildly unconstitutional.
NPVIC is 77% complete.
If that ever hits 100 i'll find another country to live in.
I didn't know that was a thing. Thank you for the upcoming readings
We have this in Canada and its terrible... the founding fathers were right about this
Yep y’alls elections are completely controlled by the Greater Toronto Area and other major cities.
The popular vote compact disenfranchises the various gerrymandered districts votes in favor of the heavily populated districts. NYC could carry the entire state alone leaving the voice of the rest of the state powerless to choose. Sounds like a terrible idea. The national version is terrible as well.
It could backfire on Democrats.
Canada should serve as a case study as to why the US has the Electoral College, and why Democrats want to get rid of it.
I truly want to see Trump win the popular vote for no reason other than to see the seething/meltdown that would come from the very people who were more than happy to overwrite my vote in their favor. I also think it'll be the fastest way to end the idea of "muh popular vote" and another 4 years without a new war is sounding pretty good right about now.
Styx you're acting like the states in the compact will actually stick to it if the candidate they don't want actually wins instead they'll have some exception in the rules to refuse doing it.
They'll call a snap election of some kind to leave the compact before the electors meet. Or something in that vein.
From what I've read on this there isn't much of a Penalty to begin with
Why doesn't anyone take this to the Supreme Court?
My guess is that nobody can show harm at this stage. Lack of standing.
It's act of treason is what it is. It is required in the constitution that the electors vote for the president and that they come from the states in which they reside except for one, so this is in effect like them not voting at all, and in effect an act of treason. And they are supposed to vote on the same day as the rest of electors, in close elections you may not know who won the popular vote till the next day "most certainly not back in the day", as well in or modern era; you can interpret that as voting around the same time. So at the very least this is loop hole treason.
I agree with county by county. This would destroy Illinois and California and Oregon.
The 10th does not give the states anything regarding elections. All elections are governed by federal law, except the places for choosing senators.
It sounds insurrectiony.
We have no idea how a 2000 or 2016 election would have turned out if they had been by popular vote. The winner of the popular vote has not won the electoral college only 5 times in 59 iterations, only once when there were two candidates on the ballot, and only once where either candidate exceeded 50% of the vote. This included two situatiosn where one candidate won their large home state by record margins.
Abraham Lincoln was a hothead.
I've been commenting the same thing on political videos over the past few weeks.
I believebit fails the 14th Amendments guarantees.
Being pushed here in Michigan.
It would have been better to allow the Confederacy to leave and bring them back in as they gradually abolished slavery
California uber alles
"...a big f ing problem." C'mon, don't be shy. Say what you really think. ❤
State compacts are also unconstitutional.
Its illegal
A state doesn’t necessarily need to have a straight popular vote for president within its own borders. States elect the president not the people. States control their elections. A state could have any sort of format to apportion their electoral votes. A state could hold their elections for the House of Representatives and then those House winners could be responsible for apportioning the state’s electoral votes.
We are teetering on the edge of the end of the republic, we've been at the edge since 2020, and if something like this were to get to 270 on its own, then this country is done.
The country is gone anyway. It’s just a matter of how fast it happens.
First hand knowledge of children being named phonetically “O-lan-gello” & “Ya-lan-gello”
Spelled out it was Orange-Jello & Yellow-Jello
Articles of Confederation 1777 was all Legislative. COTUS 1787 created 3 Branches of government. POTUS George Washington 1789-1797.
There is no reason to have electors if all the states followed this.
Response of average American; du, what dereliction .
It's a bad idea, but would be absolutely hilarious to watch CA, NY and all the other states that have signed on try to weasel out of it if Trump were to win the popular vote.
Look up a yankee cope in this one. It was about tariffs because Yankees couldn't sell their goods on the international market because they were second-rate.
Maine has 4 votes and 2 districts. Last time the 2nd voted for Trump giving him 1 of the votes. So am I to understand maine will override the 2nd districts vote when they go Trump again.
3:28 but looking back is still a bit fuzzy. here i go again!
Ugh. So lefties are just continuing to lefty?
I thought it was an "insurrection" to assign electors by state decree rather than state popular vote?
I concur! 🤨😡🤬
Damn Styx, dont you want to let this go for the looooooollls? The prospect of the clank nation raiding Cenk, Packman and Hasan's streams to beat them over the head with this, has everyone turgid.
AY UP STYX
But orange man bad though....
sounds like insurrection
Do the hate watchers ever make a counter argument?
im not a hate-watcher but im anti-maga, whenever i make an argument, i just receive insults from this channels viewer or get ignored
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