Why is Ranked Bad?
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- In todays video I will be talking about my Ideas for a Better ranked gamemode. Is Epic splitting the loot pool enough? Was old Arena Better?
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At this point we might aswell make Aussie CEO of Fortnite 😂
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@@arash_codm2468yes bro
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He wouldn't be better
I'm so glad that they made the loot pool change, and I REALLY hope it stays! Here are a few changes I'd love to see
- a top rank that's reserved for the top "x" number of players (top 500 or so) and a rank below that for top 2000 or so players. This would encourage people to reach a high rank and keep grinding to STAY there, for bragging rights at least.
- Cash cups' qualification being locked to elite or higher. I hardly play Zero Build, but even in ZB's ranked system, I place gold or higher from my unranked match. (I usually place gold or platinum in builds).
- A rework of ranked rewards. There should be a tournament (like the current ranked cups that let you earn an umbrella) where you can EARN the ranked skin for 100-150 points. Then, the current ranked umbrella could be unlocked by winning IN RANKED. Each win you get unlocks your current rank's style for the umbrella (and the lower ranks). So, a win in platinum would give you the platinum style as well as all styles below plat, and a win in unreal would give all the styles, etc. People would care about the ranked tournaments as much as they care about other skin cups, and winning in ranked would at least grant some reward that makes sense.
If they keep this, this will be such a good change for fortnite and actually give me motivation to play ranked.
Hey it took them almost 2 years to do this, maybe in 2026 they will add back siphon 😅
@@stixygamesranked was added last year
@@Rainhimself 1 year and a half
1 year and barely two months dont talk unless yk what ur talkin about@@JXSSalami
@@JXSSalami it didn’t come out in January
We need siphon
No cap
@@Hollowsfn No cap
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Aussie is so good at casting or explaining so thanks Aussie
No they shouldn’t that’s what pubs is for it is a ranked and matchmaking game mode that is supposed to mimic competitive Fortnite I think they should keep it for the rest of ranked 100
@@fleeguy12 why did you put that in my comments
You are 100% right, and I cant think a reason why they are not doing all of that than being stubborn or lack of understanding in deveploment. I get the cars and super mythics since I watch my sisters son play the game (7yo), he enjoys so much the fun stuff and i can bare with it couple games. As a competitive person, items and abilities which does not need any skill to kill a better player frustrates and even if im "eliminating" it is not rewarding nor fun in the end of the day. There could be so many excellent different routes for comp and I believe 99% of complayers agree with you.
I can gurantee there can tbe stacked ranked games with the right changes and rewards.
As you said make it actually difficult so when you are a spesific rank people generally know "okay this guy must be ok or him or decent etc" sweaty skin or pickaxe with ranked variants would do it with better point system alone. Then the tournament access rank has be kinda high which is actually difficult to reach (for money tournaments) and in ranked you must verse only same rank players. The backlash from dying on spawn should be punishing enough and adding up to be extremely punishing for many in a row. Kill should not be even near as rewarding as placement in ranking up. Stragetic refresesh and siphon would make people only take smart fights or only when neccessary. I think chest rng should be 100% in ranked and tournaments to lower the rng (there is still rng of what you get from the chest and many even prefer floor loot rather than chest of the loot pool is full of un nessecssry garbage) it should actually be more based on your landing skills via position..
Anyway I wish the best, fortnite could be one of the best competitive esport games via the unique opportunity of one embracing the skill of individual creativity in the game, due fortnite's complexity.
That is also why it is so addicting, fun to watch, you feel extremly rewarding by outplaying an oppenent since it feels you did it by your great and creative thinking in a fast phase moment.
Epic just needs to let Aussie run their company for them
THE BEST COMMENT I SEEN AL DAY
Zero build is even worse for matchmaking, in champ and unreal lobbies I got contested by the same kids 6 games in a row
Nobody cares about ZB
I know I just play zb because I’m on console and suck at builds and can’t play all day to grind builds so I play comp zb to try to make earnings in solo zb cash cups which I qual for. People who play builds have a lot more skill but I don’t so I play zb which is easier
@@hermankermit-warm1121 Oh please. More people playing ZB then build these days. Old guard just salty about that. New players don't like hitting a player for 20 shield and them building a mansion to heal up. I have been seeing pros like Clix in my ZB ranked lobbies lately, so even they are able to see the shift towards ZB and that it takes more skill to survive when you can't build to save yourself from being eliminated.
@@sephonvar2129more people are playing zero build pubs these days but zero build ranked usually always has the lowest player count of the main game modes. Also, wdym you seeing more people “like clix” playing zerobuild in your lobbies? Like clix himself or players you deem a comparable skill? I don’t understand what you mean by that at all.
@@mrmeleemushroomFr what is bro on about
Good video Aussie, However, most of us would still prefer Arena over ranked, not because of the nostalgic purposes of what occurred during lockdown, but because of the Arena game mode itself. The reason why is because Arena was not only more original and conveyed a more competitive quality to the game, that being how its point system was set up. The point system was the method to track one's individual progress at the game in a more consistent manner, tallying points towards multiple different aspects of the game, and different playstyles. Arena was set up like a tournament to reward players for different things such as placement and eliminations. This method was perfect because despite it having vague thresholds for the top players in a match, or in Champions League, it still ensured that there was still competitive gameplay in the upper ranks among the more skilled players.
Ranked is almost as good, but will never reach the perfection that arena had established. What I mean to say is that Ranked does not convey towards all gameplay styles/ and players such as mid-tier people who aren't super good, but good enough to hold their own for a couple minutes in a match but would then eventually die. These people could grind as much as they want, but because of the inconsistent nature of the Ranked mode calculations, grinding in ranked eventually tiring because even though they could play 20 matches and get in the same placement 20 times, the ranked mode in going to calculate a bunch of other things, especially even if it doesn't relate to how the player played at all , tally it up and give them a random percentage. My point being that ranked is far more inconsistent than arena. Also because of that inconsistency, you will then have to deal with extremely skilled players going up against people like me, who should be in platinum, but instead is in diamond 1 going against people that are in champion rank.
Please Reply Aussie. Much love 💗
I agree with some of your points but except queue time. At the start of ranked mode there was an issues with "longer queuet time" which everyone hated.
“it’s a massive flex to be a high rank”
Somone: Yoo i’m the highest rank
Fortnite community: No life
We need Siphon comeback thats it
watch the entire video and realize that we need more than siphon
@@WEEWOOWEWOyea we do but siphon alone is enough to save it bc it’s so good
You could die off spawn 10 games in a row in like a Diamond Lobby and gain all the percentage back with a 6 kill win in Dous or something.
It’s too easy, when you earlier were in Champs in Arena only the demons were in Champions League and mostly everyone you fought had a bit of Competetive experience in Cups etc. (most of the time), but now, when you look up stats from players of the lobby 10 of those 100 players even have any events played.
Wanna add in Unreal Lobby’s to the end
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In terms of rewards they could just give vbucks based on your rank, like all elite players get 50, champion get 150, unreal get 250 and top 1000 get 500. Then like a large reward for top 10,5,3,2,1 like $50 for top 10, $100 for top 5, $250 for top 3, $500 for top 2 and $1000 for top 1, This would be $2300 total which isnt much for a multi billion dollar company, and they could do more for top 100, 500, 1000 etc. This would give them a reason to play.
Then how will they make money? One season 1 million people were unreal, that’s giving away 2.5 million dollars
@@ytprosjfhsdjfhsieut that’s what I’m saying only give it to the top 500 not 1 million, I did the math for my example and that’s 2.3k every season which is nothing for epic
@@ytprosjfhsdjfhsieut also them giving vbucks is free they just get the money back after it’s spent
I think epic should take the apex route and make unreal a top # of players on each region. I feel like the games would be more stacked
This is by far the most relatable video ive ever seen. Im d1 and I don't have good wifi and im 60 fps. Im a console player. But I can literally be playing ranked and they're AI's and than I run into literal bugha and get boxed faster than it renders on my screen. I don't even stand a chance and that's why I think they're should be a fix where you hog up against people your skill level so you can try and improve and get better. I agree with everything u said
I feel like something like Overwatchs top 500 is pretty cool. U grind for that placement and if u dont play enough u will get placed out of it. Maybe make unreal have a fixed amount of players per region. So if u dont play enough u get out of unreal.
I think the Ranked change is really good and i hope Epic stay this way and listen to the community. Its making me come back to Fortnite and the Competitive Scene.
same
100% agreed haven’t played fortnite in a month because of the cars and the other op bs. But this change had brought me and many others back as we can play with skill. Not cars.
its good but now lobbies are so dead
@@contrigger9550 yea it takes like 2-3 mins to find a game
ranked/performance-based rewards, even if small, are such an important thing that lots of companies are throwing away nowadays. my guess is because it typically only gets granted to the highest ranked few players/the best rewards are reserved for them, but this is part of why its such a good system. Things like the old challenger jacket/backpack in league, gun charms for your rank in valorant (could be better in this case but whatever), and the Rank S or FPL qualification/prizing in CS, are all things that generated huge amounts of hype and made people excited and incentivized to grind, and more importantly CONTINUE to grind the respective games.
even if the best stuff only goes to the top of the playerbase it gives newer/worse players something to grind for apart from just skill (and gives the pros/high ranked players content which feeds back into the game). it is also just such a simple/easy thing to do depending on how they want to go about it.
also another thing// people would not care about long queues even at like the 10 minute level if they were just allowed to play creative while in queue. super easy fix and keeps people on the game.
I feel like they could keep Cars just no attachments and keep the npcs to buy stuff
Firstly, I would like to say that this change is amazing. However, back in the days, I remember people wanted arena to have the comp loot, but then people started to complain bout it cus "it was not fun." So idk if it is good or not for the game
They could make unreal harder to get to and different tiers of it. Maybe if you get the highest tier you auto qual to some cash cups or something
I think overall, I much rather grind and play to see how many arena points I can get and just a key in there than play a pointless ranked mode like we have now, I agree with like all these takes, but overall I like arena more yes because of the game/siphon/lootpool but it was also just better than current ranked in my opinion
we need the apex rank system (with points) it would make the game much more worth to grind, and for top 750 u get a skin/picaxe/ wrap or something like that at the end of the szn
@@cowboi9042 could be interesting, I think a system like apex would never work in Fortnite, I just find it hard to imagine that Fortnite would actually make a system that is hard to climb, as for rewards I agree it would be cool but, if it’s ass then who cares, that « ranked » skin that was in the shop was so shit, but they will probably just not change anything anyway
@@itsqtnate9426 the only reason fortnite wont make an actually competitive rank mode is because the average fortnite player has a shit attention span and will probably give up before getting close, it would be fun for actual grinders and make rank way more interesting though
@@cowboi9042 yeah, maybe, I just think it would not work because there is such a big gap between pros and the rest of players, and since they won’t have to play properly everyone will think it’s bad and it will become worse, but I am just guessing, It could come out and be great, I just think it would be unlikely to work if they even did it,
@@itsqtnate9426 i mean ur not gonna get all pros its gonna be like apex, plus it would make people better since they dont have to get into high elo to play stacked games against pros
Very ironically, this is the best change ever not only for me a.k.a. a player that actually has built-in skill and is good at the game but also for other people that are ranking up way too easily with these overpowered items and they’re finally getting a reality check for themselves. These people that just go around the cars and just spray all day finally are dropping down the ranks. And honestly, I am very proud of it. I have many players like for example, a friend of mine that is on a console and goes for the OP items only. And only uses the rocket fist and the cars with the guns, all of that. And he went up to champion, and the day after the change was made, he dropped all the way down to diamond 2. Which really shows a lot about certain people skill, and honestly, it would be really good to me. I went from platinum to elite with this change.
This is such a good change, hope this sticks for the long run
When I Player on Ps4 in Season 8 you needed 300 Points for champ devision and If you where champ devision you could Play in the world Cup qualifiers and even tho I was Not the best and I didnt reach Champ devision (290+ Points) I Had so much fun With my friend Back then we Played Arena a Lot and IT was so much fun because people Had to Grind to get to Champ and there where actually 20 Player movings Sometimes in ranked because people Had Something to Grind for I Played every Season since then and in my opinion this was the best state the Arena/ranked Made was ever at
i would do anything for arena back, getting points and stuff for kills was just so satisfying same w siphon.
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@@GS_Gigait’s a bot account
@@Yaboipresxre bro i know
Splitting the item pools is great. I like the options now, switching between pubs, ranked, reload, and even rumble. The ranked pool still needs work, id like to see at least some cars like previous seasons, but none of the mods or boss ones. Also, fists are still there as of yesterday, and it's good to have an alternative to shocks, but we need a different more balanced mobility option. I personally like the grapple hook.
Finally little timmy returned
Idea- Make a ranked cup where you get 5x the rank when you win but lose 3x the points when you lose, so people won’t want to lose points but will play to get points. Similar to when we had hype cups.
Divisional Cups were the best ranked system Fortnite has ever had
I think they should do a weekly reset based hidden MMR you keep your rank throughout the season but epic keeps track of kills/placement throughout the week n matches it with people who have similar stats for the week. This keeps people who grind a ton together in matches n new people/people who don’t play much get matched together then at the end of the week it resets. Could be done on a different time frame but the longer the time frame the harder it could be to sbm the higher mmr people.
I like the system of ranked more. Instead of “I have 7.400 hype” you can say “I’m champs” which is so much better
They need a ranked battle pass/road and you can collect cool stuff the higher rank you are
Main prob with ranked is most people in elite lobbies just camped there way there and run
If they just brought Bugha late game for the scrim part this game would pop off for comp
-Syphon
-Split loot pools (maybe even have weapons in ranked that arent in pubs, if necessary)
-Good rank system thats also more transparent (+being able to derank)
It's that simple. If we had those 3 things it would already make for a pretty decent if not very good gamemode.
They should make a cap on the amount of people that can be in each rank past diamond. That way if you are the lowest ranked in unreal you can get replaced.
i would do anything for arena back, getting points and stuff for kills was just so satisfying same w siphon
I pray they keep ranked like this its so much better
Add siphon
Aussie I couldn’t agree more. This is legit what I’ve been talking about. Epic should just hire you at this point
I think they should add arena to reload because you will get the sweatiest people and then a bot that is basically a chapter 1 season 1 player
Regarding the matchmaking of different skill levels and having T1 pros in the same lobby as AIs, I think the best solution to this would be elo. If you’re top 1000 unreal you should verse people in that range, not champion players. The difference between a top 100 or 1k player and a 100k+ is massive. I don’t know how they’re gonna work around the queue times with that though. Best of luck.
This update is so back there’s no movement it makes it so boring the only movement is nitro and even nitro is not that good because it run out fast they need to add fist back and they took bows out.
6:12 is so real. I played unreal lobbies and rolled through everyone and dropped a 30
U should also be able to see your ranked percentage in game and se if your losing or gaining
It’s literally impossible atm to get into zero build ranked as an Aussie 😢
I definitely agree with you. Arena was just better. I dont mean it in a nostalgic way, but Arena was balanced. Siphon just made sence and wasnt OP, the lootpool was adjusted correctly and the Point-system was way clearer. For me, a Ranked mode for a Battle royale shooter doesnt make sence (as you Said). And it also didnt make sence to fully remove Arena, since this gamemode made the game more individual than others (no game had an arena mode). I think they should just reworked it a bit... But its clear that fortnite almost completely lost its charme that it once had
i miss endgames in arena i remember getting 15-25 people half n half but ranked there is 5 people left in 4th zone
That was also one of the good things about arena is that you deranked if you went below points but I agree ranked needs to be changed especially with the sbmm
now all we need is syphon
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genuinely I think the biggest 4 fixes we could make that would make rank "More proper" of a competitive game mode are:
1. Bring back siphon
aussie already went over this in the video so I won't go into depth with this one
2. make there be more ranks OR make the ranks fight players that can only be in their ranks or if they perform well enough on the ranks above them lobbies
this provides a more competitive lobby and makes it easier to find players along the same skill level as yourself
3. do not reset the ranks each season
this goes along with number 2 on this list because if you have more ranks and don't reset them each season it means people can both keep playing at a high level rather then facing little timmy's who are scared to play ranked the first day of the season just to rank up every 3 months
4. in one of reisshubs older video he brought this up and I decided to tweak it a little
in each rank rather than there being a system where its just % I believe for any rank past diamond 3 there should be a leaderboard and within this leaderboard the way you can rank up is by passing a specific player(s) rank and if you just don't play ranked at all you will drop back down to diamond 3 and need to rank back up into elite and the higher ranks this provides that players are more likely to keep grinding so they don't lose their high rank
They should have tourneys like FNCS where only unreal players can play. Or really just some sort of tournaments where the only way you can qualify is by being in the top 5000 or something in ranked for your region, and really heavily penalize dying early in games.
I’ve been playing so much fn the last few seasons and all I’ve really cared about was comp. But after barely missing out on qualling to fncs semis and hearing the next fncs wasn’t until January, I stopped playing. I’ve started playing a lot more val and I’ve actually been having fun compared to the mental pain from playing Fortnite ranked this season. These changes sound great but I honestly feel like I’ve moved on from fortnite. This season has really put me off the game and I don’t have an fncs to grind for either.
Been waiting for this forever lfg, legit made no sense to have no official practice grounds for comp and now we do
epic should just put aussie in the spot of donald 😭🙏🏼
its so much better now my old duo even came back😁
The way to fix ranked play is to require players to reach Unreal rank and achieve at least 150 kills in total ranked games to make it competitive. If players can earn a skin just by reaching Unreal, they might camp and play for placement. However, if you also require 150 kills, players will actually try their best and play competitively. (Edit) And the more kills you get the more edit styles you unlock.
I agree with the ranked reward system it makes sense in RL there is rewards and it feels better
It was always like this, if I'm correct, they made the loot pools the same before ranked 2.0.
Aussie I think before ranked came out, they should’ve done a test to see if ranked was good jus like there doing with the cars
2:26 so its pretty much like C1S8 arena champion league where 24 people in the smallest circle ever 💀
yesterday i was playing ranked and had 13 kills and my duo realized that ftk rapid was in our game 5 minutes later he absolutely destroyed us
I’ve got back into ranked and have been loving it!
I agree with everything but getting demoted if u don’t play ranked would suck bc sometimes u just don’t have time to grind but u still want to play the cups
The only reason I played ranked was cuz I was to cocky to admit my friends were better than me 😂😂😂
as someone with no nostalgia bias, i honestly did like arena more, to me it felt more like a tournament and maybe it was because it was points rather than percentage and that you could see those points in each game, but there was something about it that made it feel better to me, it felt more fun because i KNEW i was playing competitive and not just pubs with percents thrown out there
This video really encapsulates the reason why ranked is bad and how Epic can fix it. Good Job!
I think they should add Points (like hype points) when your Unreal because then we have something to grind to just get a bigger number and a spot on the leaderboard
I honestly love the changes and have had fun in ranked for the first time.
You know the bye week is bad when aussie starts consistently uploading content that isn't focused on tournaments.
There’s literally no tourneys for 2 weeks
When there was arena a reward was to be able to play tournaments, for an average player it was a challenge to get into champ, now it' so easy even for a bad player to get the requirements for FNCS
Ranked this season was horrendous cars are simply uncompetitive and adding to an already uncompetitive game mode it just felt bad. I’m glad they made that change
aussie correction: theres no ais in rank plus arena was good cuz it rewarded you points instantly for your achievement such as kills and placements plus the instant gratification is a key factor in arenas
I had not expected to support the assertions in this video. But every suggestion would certainly yield numerous benefits.
This makes ranked so much more fun too
You only need to play like 10 games max to hit diamond and then you don't touch ranked all season
As someone returning to Fortnite(played chapters 1 thru 3), does running and building feel slower to anyone else? I swear it feels a lot more clunky
-Separate loot pool
-Better scoring system
-Ranked cosmetics
-Siphon
Ranked will be way better and all of those are extremely easy for Epic to add.
Scoring can just be as clear as arena points were but the points simply unlock the current ranks. We see our points, enemies see our rank.
Genuinely incredible input, doubt they’ll listen ( they don’t care abt comp)
its no joke that syphon would improve ranked, adding something to see your progress throughout the match will also help, same with rewards, no rewards no drive fr
I really just only care about having something in game that shows your rank. like what arena had. something that you can watch change and go up and down during the game depending on how you perform. it would be so good for content/streaming
Personally the main problem with ranked is that it's way to casual, I feel like the new ranked updated is a good step in the right path. But they also make it so that If u hit gold and then Platnuim you will still have the gold reward plus the platinum, Bronze silver etc.
I have an idea for rewards, this could only work for one time but let’s say you hit elite, the pickaxe could be like greyish and the top of it is the elite logo. That would be nice.
7:04 OOOOOO SHOT ROCKET LEAGUE HAS THE SAME THING AND IS MAYHEM
6:00 yes ranked is good but arenas ranked system was actually good and consistent cuz in ranked now i can drop in a 2 and top 25th one game and get 25% but the next game i go down epic needs to fix that
I also think they should bring fills back, for example when your with your friend and want to do trios with a random to mix it up it was funner like that.
i think the top 3 people in unreal should get money/ a reward for being there that would give people a reason to grind
all I care about is siphon and being able to see my rank in the bottom, right
I hate it where I have to wait till the end of the game to see my progress
Loot pool being same as tourneys gives you a sense of what is good or not
Ok my best opinion on how to make ranked better is they need to do kinda like rocket league you play 10 games of each game mode and base it off average kills placement then to stop people bush camping but a minimum amount of kills needed to get up a rank like a rank up test example get 5 kills place top 25 in order to get the next rank then if it’s a squad duos or trios check if they are actually playing with someone around there skill and not being carried
although i miss siphon, and i think forntite should readd it, im grateful they finally decided to split loot pools again the game is so smooth and you can get actual practice again
They need a ranked battle pass/road and you can collect cool stuff the higher rank you are
they can also add a profile system where it displays your rank and # as well as badges for example bugha will have a wc badge and 3 fncs
Epic isn't looking for our opinions on this. They're looking if they can retain the casual player base (which is why arena was replaced by ranked) and make the competitive player base happy at the same time.
Tournament customs, slip lootpool, region lock removed, 3 big W changes.
About a week ago, I was elite rank and I verse Bugha and I know that’s pretty close to unreal but the difference between me and bugha is like night and day (he absolutely s**t on me) 😂
I just liked the old movement animations and in ranked you get punished for fighting because no syphon
Aussie needs to be a spokesperson for epic
5:03 bro hit back to back blanks.