2 things. 1. To everyone watching, filters are probably one of the most useful and best investments you can make in your film and photography journey. 2. Omg! That is such an amazing price for that system. If you don't have filters yet, and you can get this kit for under $350, then I would highly recommend you consider it. To give some context I spent roughly $500 on 4 Polar Pro filters.
Bro, I found your channel through the peak design travel backpack review. You make high-quality unbiased videos but what I love even more is - you care about the Community. Even with 143k subs you react to nearly all comments and that is not common at this stage. Keep this awesome work up!
I just clicked your link and hit the "back it" button. I saw a few reviews lately, but yours was the best, so I finally got on board despite having too many filters already 🤣. Filter changes are just annoying 😁. Thanks for the video!
I have had their Variable 2-5 stop ND, and the magnetic element is a game changer. When you add the fact that their filters come with very little color distortion, and the reasonable price for their product, I don't know why everyone doesn't go this route. I will be getting this thing when it is released.
Ah I wanted to love these! Bought the 7-in-1 set about a month ago to film my surprise proposal to my lady during a backpacking trip in the Red River Gorge. They are of great quality, and the image quality looked great out of my a7r iv. But, I ended up returning them. I loved the magnets, but also hated them. For my use case, my camera typically lives on my Peak Design Capture Clip during our hiking adventures. I had numerous issues with the lens cap, or lens cap + ND filter, falling off the lens during the hike. It seemed like the slightest brushing up against my body would knock them right off. I also had the issue when I'd go to remove the magnetic lens cap, the ND filter would pop off with it, so I'd have to realign almost every time (would fix if you used two hands to remove the cap... But I shouldn't have to use both hands to remove a lens cap).
Outtake! Killer Dunna! Great video. I didn't see the 'reverse the filter' coming. Genius! I bet you went nuts when the package arrived in the mail! And who DOESN'T LOVE magnets!!
I clicked like at "I promise I didn't cry." The teary eye and voice showed commitment to the nonsense and it made me chuckle. Now onto the video. thanks and keep the quirks coming as they make the channel unique.
I picked up a set of these filters. Super convenient with the magnet. Sometimes I find the mist filter to be a bit strong. How do you find the Freewell mist filter in comparison to the Tiffen Black Promist filter? (If you’ve used it before)
This is super neat, I already have a bunch of their other filters so I'm not super sure the (new? updated?) system is really worth it for me, but I'm glad its an option for some folks!
Same situation here. Last november I bought the 2 VND's + pro mist however the flaring is irritating at times + CPL doesn't work with VND but only fixed ND. Another reviewer claimed that flaring is non existent here so not sure if 400 USD (which is way more expensive with eastern european currency, haha) is worth the price just because the lack of flaring and the separate ND32. Dunna didn't even mentioned about flaring, hmm. Maybe when I decide to get a second camera body :D
Ooh you should legit email them about that! I’ll mention it too. But they take that kinda stuff seriously. They implemented a couple things I specifically asked for
Interestingly, it's very doubtful (for me) to ever use the 'mist' filters, and I already have a CPL, so the others definitely have caught my attention! My question would be, I've seen a few videos where someone used a 10 stop ND and added another 6 stop on top of it, so is that possible using this filter system? Not that I would be caught in that circumstance, but with the different numbering on these filters, I'm unsure if that's possible in stacking them? I do like the idea of variable...as I do have one, but it's a screw in, and often (as mentioned) can be time consuming, putting on...taking off, changing and going with a different filter again. Great video, thanks!
Thanks for all of the advice Dunna. You rock dude! I ordered the kit. I am wondering. I have 2 other lenses with smaller filter sizes. I ordered a 72 for my main but also have a 67 and a 62. With this new design, do I need to buy appropriate magnetic bases and that's it? This will work with all of them? No step-up rings or anything?
You’ll need step up rings for the other lenses. I personally actually like the freewell step ups because they’re thin and they’re also magnetic for the normal freewell filters. But any step up will work to fit the new base ring.
@@dunnadidit Thank you my Friend. Ok I will go order the freewell step up rings. To be honest, Im still a bit confused as to how this will work. My kit is 72. To fit a 67 mm lense, I will need a new 67 base ring and then a 67 to 72 step up ring......and then i can use the magnetic filters/cap in the kit? Sorry for the noob questions. Their website is a bit confusing. Thank you for all that you do. You are my hero.
So if you ordered a 72mm system and you want to use it on a 67mm filter, you’ll need a 67-72mm step up ring and then the system itself. Hope that helps!
@@dunnadidit Aha! This makes sense. Thank you so much. Ill order an extra 72mm base and cap. This way I can swap the filters between the lenses super fast. Many thanks my Friend!
Thanks. This was a very comprehensive overview of filters. I just got myself the Hama VND. Didn't realise 1) it's also a UV filter 2) although it's 72mm, it needs a 77mm lens cap. Hmm
Help me here Dunna. Seems like there is only one size for all lenses. only the base ring has different filter size which means something like 67mm would have hideous step-up ring with 82mm filter look and wont sit on the flat surface properly. Am I correct?
Hmmm, I don’t actually know how they are dealing with specific sizes. Let me check with freewell and get back to you! You can also drop a question for them in the indigogo campaign I think.
When I added the kit and clicked on proceed with transaction, I was lead to another page with accessories. There I found I could order step-up rings. Oddly, I could only order 1 step-up ring per size category.
Is there a way to use the new CPL with older freewell Hard stop: ND64 / ND1000 filters? OR could you use the new Freewell CPL and stack the 6-9 VND if you want to cut down on glare but want the extra stops?
Wow. I kept shouting "Shut up!" Elanie Benes-style during this video. Dunna, seeing you, as well as Potato Jet, talk about Freewell's gear had me pretty sold. For months, I've had a set of Freewell magnetic ND & mist filters in my Amazon cart. But I just could pull the trigger on the price. This 7-in-1 set feels like it was made for me. I never get excited over gear. This gets me excited over gear.
Haha at first I read that first part and was like… dang! You mad? But then I realized what you meant haha. Yeah they’re pretty fantastic! I’m stoked to be part of the squad helping launch them.
great video! Ine question. Could i put as base filter the MISTXVND filter for example (6:51) and combine it with a GLow Mist 1/4 to have more ''mist''effect for example?
Great video! If I'm in between 2 sizes (67mm & 72mm) based on the lenses I currently have, what size would you reco? I have 2 lenses I use 90% of the time (70-150mm Tamron 67mm & 16-55 sony G 67mm). I know it's just easier to get the bigger size and use step down rings but I also see the advantages of getting 67mm and forgo the step rings for the convenience. Pls share your thoughts for me situation. TIA!
What sorcery is this? It’s a vnd and just flip it and it becomes a cpl. how did they do it? Will there be a negative effect to that? Because i have never seen a flipping filter changing its purpose. I mean i am very amazed and interested, but curious if there is a catch.
I paid with my MasterCard using ApplePay and it just converts the amount, I guess. I used a HKD -> USD online calculator and the amount in HKD equals $301. Your statement should just show it in USD. I just checked my card account and it shows a $301.27 charge from IndieGogo. Hope this helps!
are the vnd bases same size for filter thread of all sizes ? For example, if I have a 77mm filter system, and i want to use it on a 67mm thread size, should I get the 67mm base ring only and the whole system works with it? or should i get a 67-77mm step up ring to and use tha same 77mm base ring?
@@dunnadidit i heard from some people that you could just purchase base rings separately for different filter sizes, so i was curious. i myself dont think that the same glass would fit different base rings of different sizes.
we need not only magnetic variables nd but also magnetic variable lens hood together as a package, I don't want to use mate box but when I deal with variable nds it is the only option for keeping contrast and light leaks on control. i
I would love buy this one but the only thing that holding me is i have canon m50 with the lens kit 18mm-45mm. Question is there’s a base ring for my kit lense?? To use this??? Appreciate some answers please thank you. Do i need to buy the step up ring thread to match it to 82mm base ring? I have 4 lenses and different sizes.
So is it not possible to run it without the 1 stop base Nd? What if I want to shoot without any Nd at all…I can’t keep the magnetic base on there without nothing for those times?
Thanks for good review, I have two lenses, one with 67mm filter size and the other with 58 filter size. Can I use the same filters on both lenses? I only need to have two base rings, one for 67mm and one for 58mm??
True Frank thats the copy version which Dunna tested a year back he can back that up, please feel free to confirm with him we patented in China & the competitor was quick to copy that but ask Dunna what a massive change we have made to the final set.
I have tried a few magnetic filter systems out but freewell is by far my favorite, and I’ve definitely never seen something as extensive and complete as this whole system. Especially because you can still use the original freewel magnetic filters in it!
@@dunnadidit The problem is with multiple lenses you need multiple magnetic adapters which increases cost. With original Freewell filters they can't be purchased separately like with Xume. With this setup the magnetic filters will be bigger than the original ones. The common crew-on filter still have better track record and variety.
I’m a huge fan of using step up rings for this. All my lenses have step up rings on them to make them all the same sized filter thread. It makes the whole thing easy! And Freewell even makes magnetic step ups so there is literally no depth added like in other systems. I’m still yet to work that all in with this new system but I don’t think it will be long until I do, I like it that much! All that said, everyone’s workflow is different, I still use my freewell screw on VND’s when I need them and the older magnetic filters I have a bunch of 77mm ones that I use on a couple of lenses that I only use for photography. Thanks for sharing your perspective!!
@@dunnadidit Each step up ring costs $30 and that adds up quickly. Plus they don't sell the regular magnetic ring separately. I'd like to see an upgraded Xume system to use with screw-on filters.
Quick question- let’s say I shoot 90 slow motion in day light and I don’t want to use ND and instead I crank my shutter, what is the disadvantage or would it cause any issues when I slow down my footage in post?
do you advise to get the same size as your lenses or getting one size higher for this new kit ? As the base seems quite large I'm not sure it would be that useful to get a bigger size than my lenses. cheers !
I suggest getting the largest size of any lens you think you might buy. Generally, for photography lenses, 82mm is what I go with. Then I get step up rings for my other lenses.
I don't know why but I impulsively placed an order for this. September is never far considering most of the preorder I did take over at least half a year to deliver.
Yeah true! Any time I’ve backed something on indigogo or Kickstarter it usually takes way longer than that! I just got a Christmas present from my wife about a week ago lol.
I’m looking into this, you could definitely use a step ring before the base of you want but I’m hopefully getting some clarification on how the different sized bases work.
Okay, so it looks like the different sized bases actually have different sized filters too. So if you want to buy an 82mm set and fit it on your other lenses, you’ll have to look at step up rings (just like with other filters) but I would also suggest writing to them and suggesting some kind of “step up base” option if you want. They take suggestions like that very seriously!
@@dunnadidit appreciate you taking the time to help seek the information. I'm sold on the system and I'll definitely be buying the 82mm set and going that exact route.
I assume they’re using the same glass. Results seem to be just as good but I haven’t done any side by sides. More just practical testing and I’ve been really happy.
I tried asking at their page, but so far no reply, but Dunna you said we can get different base ring to fit, does it mean if I get the 82mm set, and get extra 77mm base ring, then I can use the 82mm filter lens on the 77mm base ring. Which mean I don't need a setup ring of 77-82, the 77mm act as setup ring? I am actually confused on their add-on link, hope you can shed some light. Also the back lens cap is just a front cap correct, there is not front / back difference, as long as I get extra cap, I should be able to sandwich the filters. Thanks
@@dunnadidit Yeah I’m interested in these but a bit confused - are there/will there be Freewell step-up rings (made for use with this system) so I can purchase the 82mm kit and use it on my smaller lenses? I prefer an oversized variable ND because they seem to have less issues with really wide lenses; since you’re using the best/center part of the filter lens instead of using all the glass, including the edges. Thanks for the post and I’m looking forward to your reply!! 🙏
@George Lin - Freewell answered my my email and said that the 82mm will work with any step ring so that I can put it on my lenses that take smaller sized filters. So, I ordered 82mm and I’m just going to buy a few step rings and keep ‘em on my most frequently used lenses. Even though they said they’d work with “any” step rings, I’m going to go with some from Freewell (even though they’re expensive) because I know that they’ll fit just right. Here’s their word-for-word reply: “Freewell: This system works with any STEP-UP ring available on the market there is not going to be any special step-up ring for this system as you are basically threading the filter on them.” Hope this helps answer your question?
@@dtom420 ya thanks freewell answered my question as well so it turned out I just ordered the 82mm as well and they said they are going to make the back lens cap available later
I watched the video of the Freewell Variable mist and this video. Is the base nd/mist a 1/8 or a 1/4 in this new system? I'm assuming 1/8 diffusion as it's less intense. I'm assuming that these new Base Mist with VNDs are more consistent in it's diffusion as well since the base will be the same for both VNDs. Thoughts?
Hey Dunna, I was wondering if you can tell me if the VND has any stop notches or haptic feedback? I have the original Freewell VND and the only gripe is that I always change the stop by accident when shooting.
They're pretty solid, you can give them a decent shake without them coming off. If I put them in my bag with the filter on, sometimes the bag will "squeeze" and when I pull the camera out, it will come off. But generally I've been happy with the magnetic strength.
Great video and amazing tool! Thanks! If I've got 2 lenses with 2 different filter threads (77mm&82mm) can I buy an adaptor to screw on the lens (77->82) and then the Freewell base ring? I'm trying to figure out which one to buy from Freewell, but got 2 different lenses. Would love a reply from you as you've also used it and you're a pro in the field, thanks!
Hello! Can someone answer me if I can use this system on Canon RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM? I really want to buy this but I hace to check. And where is it best to buy to Norway?
The Freewell magnetic system looks wonderful! But is the 6-9 stop variable ND the same, optically, as the 16-9 variable ND you reviewed against the PolarPros? Because I was surprised at how inconsistent the look of the Freewell 6-9 looked compared to the 2-5, whereas the PolarPros had a much more consistent look between the two filters.
In your older video, you mentioned that the intensity of the mist was different between the 2-5 and 6-9 (the 6-9 had much more diffusion). How would you compare the one they added in this kit? Is it more subtle like the 2-5 or powerful like the 6-9? Thanks!
@@jordanhamelin9228 Hi Jordan, have you finally bought this filter kit ? I've been struggling with Freewell as the mist base I received is finally a 1/8 mist filter... Personnaly I don't see any difference between the MistxVnd base and the Vnd base. I've tried many configurations, and no mist or bloomy effect at all for me ... :(
@@dunnadidit well, my main concern is that I mostly shoot action and fights, so yeah, it's cool that i can rapidly swap filters, but I'm worried about the toughness of magnets so the filter won't fall off if i make quick pans and tilts
hi dunna, is there any way you can combine the CPL with one of the NDs with this new product? If you have mentioned it in the video, I am sorry I was not able to catch it :)
Part of this product is that if you use the 2-5 filter but flipped around and without the VND base, it’s a CPL. The 6-9 filter used in the same way is an ND32CPL. Hope that helps!
@@dunnadidit so that means that you can't use the combination 2-5 stop VND and CPL at the same time, right? But I suppose you can can do 6-9 Stop and CPL (2-5 backwards)?
@@mariushjust ordered kit from Amazon but trying to find the answer to the same question. It looks like you are right. I was hoping to be able to use vnd/mist and cpl all at the same time but it does not seem possible so my order will have to be cancelled.
It’s changed a bunch lately. If I’m in the studio, and standing just with a talking head, it will be 35 or 55 usually. If I need to show a desk, it will be somewhere between 16 and 20mm and if I’m out and about it’s usually that same 16-20 to keep me close to the mic.
Looks to be a great system! Great breakdown of the different filters. How strong are the magnets though? Slightly concerned that the filter might pop off with an accidental bump or a strong jerking motion.
I haven’t run into the issue of them falling off accidentally except if I pack my bag too tight, ill pull the camera out and the filter will stay sometimes if it got pinched in there. They’re really well fitted so they kind of “latch” in a bit which makes them feel more secure. I’m sure you could shake it hard enough or bump it hard enough to make it fall but it hasn’t happened to me in my regular use.
Late to the game, but I did run into some issues with the filters falling off, or sometimes just the lens cap. This was during a hiking/backpacking trip, where the lens would occasionally rub against my chest using the Peak clip. Loved the filters, but returned them because of this. If you aren't hiking with them, they are an excellent buy
Appreciate the education on ND filters, Dunna! Just picked up my a6400 to update the quality of my videos and wanting to start doing client work. I’d love to know your thoughts on the Tamron 17-70 f2.8 vs the Sony 18-105 f4. Somewhat different focal lengths for sure but for someone that needs to get closer to his subject but wants more range - what would you suggest?
Dose all that nd overlapping glass not distort real clean image? On the other hand, I loved information and your video! Blueish on the Left and red on the right in the backgroun. Looked neat and dramatic
Any idea if this would lead to vignetting on a 14--30mm? I could see myself stacking a base filter and VND. I also have step up rings to 82mm (where I've standardized), which may lead to even higher chances. A simple magnetic way to hold a 100mm GND would also be pretty awesome!
Another question, on my Freewell 2-5 stop ND, I find it doesn't have enough resistance to avoid "slipping" (turning) on its own when not wanted. Curious about how "rigid" the turn is on this new system?
Can someone tell me how that indiegogo works.. will the full package with filters and base come available at their webside or even amazon anywhere soon :)?
It’s a preorder platform, it helps smaller companies fund new products. You get a discount for buying early, but you have to wait a bit to get it. After the indiegogo campaign ends and the product is in full production, they will add it to their site as a normal product.
@@dunnadidit wuaw thanks for the quick answer and good explanation, what about the money i donate on indiegogo do i get the bundle when the campaign ends?? :)
Yeah! It’s not a donation at all, you’re pre-ordering the product. Sometimes, crowdfunding can be a bit risky if the company is super new and if the product isn’t fully funded. But because freewell is already a trustworthy company, already has the means to produce these products (they manufacture themselves) and the product is already fully funded… it’s basically just a preorder. It should say on the site when they’re shipping the products out too.
2 things. 1. To everyone watching, filters are probably one of the most useful and best investments you can make in your film and photography journey. 2. Omg! That is such an amazing price for that system. If you don't have filters yet, and you can get this kit for under $350, then I would highly recommend you consider it. To give some context I spent roughly $500 on 4 Polar Pro filters.
Bam! Chad is up in here backing me up!
Where I live just one variable Polar Pro filter can cost over 400€. More than the whole Freewell kit with some extras.
Bro, I found your channel through the peak design travel backpack review. You make high-quality unbiased videos but what I love even more is - you care about the Community. Even with 143k subs you react to nearly all comments and that is not common at this stage. Keep this awesome work up!
Thank you so much for the kind words! This made my day!
Love seeing great shots of Edmonton! And thank you for simplifying all this!
I just clicked your link and hit the "back it" button. I saw a few reviews lately, but yours was the best, so I finally got on board despite having too many filters already 🤣. Filter changes are just annoying 😁. Thanks for the video!
Cheers!
You're so good at this and this is the best review and tutorial in yt. Thanks for sharing, subcribed.
Great video Dunna, I absolutely love this system. I literally haven't used any of my other filters since I got this set!
I have had their Variable 2-5 stop ND, and the magnetic element is a game changer. When you add the fact that their filters come with very little color distortion, and the reasonable price for their product, I don't know why everyone doesn't go this route. I will be getting this thing when it is released.
Ah I wanted to love these! Bought the 7-in-1 set about a month ago to film my surprise proposal to my lady during a backpacking trip in the Red River Gorge. They are of great quality, and the image quality looked great out of my a7r iv. But, I ended up returning them. I loved the magnets, but also hated them. For my use case, my camera typically lives on my Peak Design Capture Clip during our hiking adventures. I had numerous issues with the lens cap, or lens cap + ND filter, falling off the lens during the hike. It seemed like the slightest brushing up against my body would knock them right off. I also had the issue when I'd go to remove the magnetic lens cap, the ND filter would pop off with it, so I'd have to realign almost every time (would fix if you used two hands to remove the cap... But I shouldn't have to use both hands to remove a lens cap).
Outtake! Killer Dunna! Great video. I didn't see the 'reverse the filter' coming. Genius! I bet you went nuts when the package arrived in the mail! And who DOESN'T LOVE magnets!!
Seriously went bonkers!!
I clicked like at "I promise I didn't cry." The teary eye and voice showed commitment to the nonsense and it made me chuckle. Now onto the video. thanks and keep the quirks coming as they make the channel unique.
Haha thanks so much! I definitely felt ridiculous but it was fun.
This is so much more innovative than the Polar Pro stuff. Great work Freewell. Ordering a set immediately.
where is the ordering link?
Awesome video Dunna! Magnets are phenomenal! 😍
Dunna, this is one of your mammothly excellent videos of huge helpfulness. Thx so much. 💛🙏🏼
Thanks a ton!
Super stoked on these filters so far! Only filters that’ll live in my bag now. Freewell crushed it. Dope review as always man
Right!? Thanks dude!!
Just had to say... really love your lighting!
Thank you so much!
I love these no-sense straight to the point and informative vids. Thanks Dunna
Thanks for watching!
Dude. These are sick!
right?!
CPL & ND function is amazing in your video,u made cool.buddy
This looks rad. I was searching for the past few weeks for the old Manfrotto Xume magnetic system but this makes things so much easier lol
Agreed!!
Okay. I need this. It's going on the list. Next question: When is the Dunna ND by Freewell coming out? You guys were basically made gor each other lol
Haha I friggin love magnets so yeah, I’d say so.
Plagiarized the magnetic patent of b.way filter
@@taosong4972 there are so many magnetic filter systems out there I don’t think it’s really patentable unless for a very specific design
Great vid! And as a dude from Edmonton too, I love seeing the locations in our city you choose. 👍
What I really REALLY need is to stop watching videos about gear I can't buy. But I can never skip one of yours!
Haha maybe I’ll do some tutorials soon! There’s just so much good gear right now.
I picked up a set of these filters. Super convenient with the magnet. Sometimes I find the mist filter to be a bit strong. How do you find the Freewell mist filter in comparison to the Tiffen Black Promist filter? (If you’ve used it before)
These sound so dope! Very intuitive and easy 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 great video. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome man! Great tutoríal. Explained a lot of what I was looking to further understand!
Dunna you did it ! So eager to receive this kit !
Btw you're great at what you do, keep up the good work !
Thanks so much!
Already got mine ordered. #7
it's beautiful
All right!!
Best review!
So are all the filters actually one size and the base ring is the only thing that changes for different lenses?
wanted to know as well :)
This is super neat, I already have a bunch of their other filters so I'm not super sure the (new? updated?) system is really worth it for me, but I'm glad its an option for some folks!
The backwards compatibility is cool if you do ever decide to go this way!
Same situation here. Last november I bought the 2 VND's + pro mist however the flaring is irritating at times + CPL doesn't work with VND but only fixed ND. Another reviewer claimed that flaring is non existent here so not sure if 400 USD (which is way more expensive with eastern european currency, haha) is worth the price just because the lack of flaring and the separate ND32. Dunna didn't even mentioned about flaring, hmm. Maybe when I decide to get a second camera body :D
This looks amazing
Going to be getting these for my videos for sure
Nice!!
Lol, stop making me buy stuff, Dunna!!! 🤣🤣
I can't resist this.
Hahaha you know what! I’m okay with who I am lol.
Slow clap for freewell. Thank you 👏🏼👏🏼
Great Video Dunna, I have been waiting for freewell to launch in India , hope it will be available soon..
Fingers crossed 🤞🏼
Can you stack the mist and cpl?
this is perfect!! A magnetic lens hood would be amazing
Ooh you should legit email them about that! I’ll mention it too. But they take that kinda stuff seriously. They implemented a couple things I specifically asked for
@@dunnadidit that is great to hear! I have sent them an email :)
I switched from the PMK PolarPro vnd's to Freewell magnetics and never looked back! 👍👍👍
Nice!! I’m glad you found what works for you!
How’s the performance of the VND compared to their traditional threaded ones?
Any issues?
Interestingly, it's very doubtful (for me) to ever use the 'mist' filters, and I already have a CPL, so the others definitely have caught my attention! My question would be, I've seen a few videos where someone used a 10 stop ND and added another 6 stop on top of it, so is that possible using this filter system? Not that I would be caught in that circumstance, but with the different numbering on these filters, I'm unsure if that's possible in stacking them? I do like the idea of variable...as I do have one, but it's a screw in, and often (as mentioned) can be time consuming, putting on...taking off, changing and going with a different filter again. Great video, thanks!
Thanks for all of the advice Dunna. You rock dude! I ordered the kit. I am wondering. I have 2 other lenses with smaller filter sizes. I ordered a 72 for my main but also have a 67 and a 62. With this new design, do I need to buy appropriate magnetic bases and that's it? This will work with all of them? No step-up rings or anything?
You’ll need step up rings for the other lenses. I personally actually like the freewell step ups because they’re thin and they’re also magnetic for the normal freewell filters. But any step up will work to fit the new base ring.
@@dunnadidit Thank you my Friend. Ok I will go order the freewell step up rings. To be honest, Im still a bit confused as to how this will work. My kit is 72. To fit a 67 mm lense, I will need a new 67 base ring and then a 67 to 72 step up ring......and then i can use the magnetic filters/cap in the kit? Sorry for the noob questions. Their website is a bit confusing. Thank you for all that you do. You are my hero.
So if you ordered a 72mm system and you want to use it on a 67mm filter, you’ll need a 67-72mm step up ring and then the system itself. Hope that helps!
@@dunnadidit Aha! This makes sense. Thank you so much. Ill order an extra 72mm base and cap. This way I can swap the filters between the lenses super fast. Many thanks my Friend!
Thanks. This was a very comprehensive overview of filters. I just got myself the Hama VND. Didn't realise 1) it's also a UV filter 2) although it's 72mm, it needs a 77mm lens cap. Hmm
Your happy cry just made me subscribe 😊
How about color cast when you had all theses filter together?
That's asking too much from a sponsored review.
Your colours though! Nice job man.
Thanks dude!
They look so good
Heck yes!!
Help me here Dunna. Seems like there is only one size for all lenses. only the base ring has different filter size which means something like 67mm would have hideous step-up ring with 82mm filter look and wont sit on the flat surface properly. Am I correct?
Hmmm, I don’t actually know how they are dealing with specific sizes. Let me check with freewell and get back to you! You can also drop a question for them in the indigogo campaign I think.
When I added the kit and clicked on proceed with transaction, I was lead to another page with accessories. There I found I could order step-up rings. Oddly, I could only order 1 step-up ring per size category.
Is there a way to use the new CPL with older freewell Hard stop: ND64 / ND1000 filters? OR could you use the new Freewell CPL and stack the 6-9 VND if you want to cut down on glare but want the extra stops?
Wow. I kept shouting "Shut up!" Elanie Benes-style during this video. Dunna, seeing you, as well as Potato Jet, talk about Freewell's gear had me pretty sold. For months, I've had a set of Freewell magnetic ND & mist filters in my Amazon cart. But I just could pull the trigger on the price. This 7-in-1 set feels like it was made for me. I never get excited over gear. This gets me excited over gear.
Haha at first I read that first part and was like… dang! You mad? But then I realized what you meant haha.
Yeah they’re pretty fantastic! I’m stoked to be part of the squad helping launch them.
Oh man. This system looks so clean. Really need to check this out.
Right?!
great video! Ine question. Could i put as base filter the MISTXVND filter for example (6:51) and combine it with a GLow Mist 1/4 to have more ''mist''effect for example?
DUNNA DID IT!!! 😀
😁😁😁
Great video! If I'm in between 2 sizes (67mm & 72mm) based on the lenses I currently have, what size would you reco? I have 2 lenses I use 90% of the time (70-150mm Tamron 67mm & 16-55 sony G 67mm). I know it's just easier to get the bigger size and use step down rings but I also see the advantages of getting 67mm and forgo the step rings for the convenience. Pls share your thoughts for me situation. TIA!
I’m all about the bigger sizes. I’ve probably got just as many 67mm lenses as I do 82 but everything gets stepped up to 82
Once you've got for argument's sake the 82mm base, do you still use step down on that for other lenses like we do for other circular threaded filters?
Yes.
What sorcery is this? It’s a vnd and just flip it and it becomes a cpl. how did they do it? Will there be a negative effect to that? Because i have never seen a flipping filter changing its purpose. I mean i am very amazed and interested, but curious if there is a catch.
Since a VND is just a combination of cpl’s and nd’s it actually totally makes sense and there shouldn’t be any drawbacks! I haven’t run into anything.
Is the price going to go up for the filters after the early bird special? How do I pay in American dollars it only allows me to do in HKD as well!
I paid with my MasterCard using ApplePay and it just converts the amount, I guess. I used a HKD -> USD online calculator and the amount in HKD equals $301. Your statement should just show it in USD. I just checked my card account and it shows a $301.27 charge from IndieGogo. Hope this helps!
are the vnd bases same size for filter thread of all sizes ? For example, if I have a 77mm filter system, and i want to use it on a 67mm thread size, should I get the 67mm base ring only and the whole system works with it? or should i get a 67-77mm step up ring to and use tha same 77mm base ring?
I think the whole system is a different size. So I would recommend getting step up rings and then larger kits if you want multiple.
@@dunnadidit i heard from some people that you could just purchase base rings separately for different filter sizes, so i was curious. i myself dont think that the same glass would fit different base rings of different sizes.
Hmm, I’d check directly with freewell. Maybe I misunderstand how it works!
@@dunnadidit i did, What you said was correct. and Thanks for amazing review.
we need not only magnetic variables nd but also magnetic variable lens hood together as a package, I don't want to use mate box but when I deal with variable nds it is the only option for keeping contrast and light leaks on control. i
I would love buy this one but the only thing that holding me is i have canon m50 with the lens kit 18mm-45mm. Question is there’s a base ring for my kit lense?? To use this??? Appreciate some answers please thank you. Do i need to buy the step up ring thread to match it to 82mm base ring? I have 4 lenses and different sizes.
So is it not possible to run it without the 1 stop base Nd? What if I want to shoot without any Nd at all…I can’t keep the magnetic base on there without nothing for those times?
Yup! You can totally just take out the 1 stop base and shoot away! I kinda showed that when switching between the VND base and the mist base.
Thanks for good review, I have two lenses, one with 67mm filter size and the other with 58 filter size. Can I use the same filters on both lenses? I only need to have two base rings, one for 67mm and one for 58mm??
Haida already has a similar system but receives very low recognition. My concerns are the price, size, lens hood, backward compatibility.
True Frank thats the copy version which Dunna tested a year back he can back that up, please feel free to confirm with him we patented in China & the competitor was quick to copy that but ask Dunna what a massive change we have made to the final set.
I have tried a few magnetic filter systems out but freewell is by far my favorite, and I’ve definitely never seen something as extensive and complete as this whole system. Especially because you can still use the original freewel magnetic filters in it!
@@dunnadidit The problem is with multiple lenses you need multiple magnetic adapters which increases cost. With original Freewell filters they can't be purchased separately like with Xume. With this setup the magnetic filters will be bigger than the original ones. The common crew-on filter still have better track record and variety.
I’m a huge fan of using step up rings for this. All my lenses have step up rings on them to make them all the same sized filter thread. It makes the whole thing easy! And Freewell even makes magnetic step ups so there is literally no depth added like in other systems. I’m still yet to work that all in with this new system but I don’t think it will be long until I do, I like it that much! All that said, everyone’s workflow is different, I still use my freewell screw on VND’s when I need them and the older magnetic filters I have a bunch of 77mm ones that I use on a couple of lenses that I only use for photography. Thanks for sharing your perspective!!
@@dunnadidit Each step up ring costs $30 and that adds up quickly. Plus they don't sell the regular magnetic ring separately. I'd like to see an upgraded Xume system to use with screw-on filters.
Quick question- let’s say I shoot 90 slow motion in day light and I don’t want to use ND and instead I crank my shutter, what is the disadvantage or would it cause any issues when I slow down my footage in post?
Hey i have a point and shoot sony dsc hx10v. What nd filter should i use? Do you have nd for point and shoots also??
do you advise to get the same size as your lenses or getting one size higher for this new kit ? As the base seems quite large I'm not sure it would be that useful to get a bigger size than my lenses. cheers !
I suggest getting the largest size of any lens you think you might buy. Generally, for photography lenses, 82mm is what I go with. Then I get step up rings for my other lenses.
I don't know why but I impulsively placed an order for this.
September is never far considering most of the preorder I did take over at least half a year to deliver.
Yeah true! Any time I’ve backed something on indigogo or Kickstarter it usually takes way longer than that! I just got a Christmas present from my wife about a week ago lol.
Would the Peter McKinnon VND filters magnetize to this system? Just curious. Great video sir!
No, the PM filters only work as a screw-on
Can I use step rings or a smaller base ring to fit the bigger size filters or is this just a buy one size only feature....
I’m looking into this, you could definitely use a step ring before the base of you want but I’m hopefully getting some clarification on how the different sized bases work.
@@dunnadidit Also interested in that!
Okay, so it looks like the different sized bases actually have different sized filters too. So if you want to buy an 82mm set and fit it on your other lenses, you’ll have to look at step up rings (just like with other filters) but I would also suggest writing to them and suggesting some kind of “step up base” option if you want. They take suggestions like that very seriously!
@@dunnadidit appreciate you taking the time to help seek the information. I'm sold on the system and I'll definitely be buying the 82mm set and going that exact route.
My pleasure!!
does it matter if shutter speed is 2x over the target just to compensate for the ight ?
Are the vnds that come in the kit the same vnds that you reviewed in the past or have they been modified/improved?
I assume they’re using the same glass. Results seem to be just as good but I haven’t done any side by sides. More just practical testing and I’ve been really happy.
Hey Dunna, the base plate looks big. Would you be able to use a lens hood with it? Or would you rely on the glare prevention of the filter itself?
Yeah definitely no lens hoods with these guys they do extend out beyond the lens.
This is crazy smart
Right!?
I tried asking at their page, but so far no reply, but Dunna you said we can get different base ring to fit, does it mean if I get the 82mm set, and get extra 77mm base ring, then I can use the 82mm filter lens on the 77mm base ring. Which mean I don't need a setup ring of 77-82, the 77mm act as setup ring? I am actually confused on their add-on link, hope you can shed some light. Also the back lens cap is just a front cap correct, there is not front / back difference, as long as I get extra cap, I should be able to sandwich the filters. Thanks
I would like to know this too
I’ve reached out directly as well! I’ll try to find the comments that asked this and get back to everyone. I’m sure they’re just busy on launch day!
@@dunnadidit Yeah I’m interested in these but a bit confused - are there/will there be Freewell step-up rings (made for use with this system) so I can purchase the 82mm kit and use it on my smaller lenses? I prefer an oversized variable ND because they seem to have less issues with really wide lenses; since you’re using the best/center part of the filter lens instead of using all the glass, including the edges. Thanks for the post and I’m looking forward to your reply!! 🙏
@George Lin - Freewell answered my my email and said that the 82mm will work with any step ring so that I can put it on my lenses that take smaller sized filters. So, I ordered 82mm and I’m just going to buy a few step rings and keep ‘em on my most frequently used lenses. Even though they said they’d work with “any” step rings, I’m going to go with some from Freewell (even though they’re expensive) because I know that they’ll fit just right.
Here’s their word-for-word reply:
“Freewell: This system works with any STEP-UP ring available on the market there is not going to be any special step-up ring for this system as you are basically threading the filter on them.”
Hope this helps answer your question?
@@dtom420 ya thanks freewell answered my question as well so it turned out I just ordered the 82mm as well and they said they are going to make the back lens cap available later
I watched the video of the Freewell Variable mist and this video. Is the base nd/mist a 1/8 or a 1/4 in this new system? I'm assuming 1/8 diffusion as it's less intense. I'm assuming that these new Base Mist with VNDs are more consistent in it's diffusion as well since the base will be the same for both VNDs. Thoughts?
Hey Dunna, I was wondering if you can tell me if the VND has any stop notches or haptic feedback? I have the original Freewell VND and the only gripe is that I always change the stop by accident when shooting.
No notches on these ones, which is my preference but I hear you on the accidentally changing it.
@@dunnadidit You think you can put in a word before they start production 😅
Lol I honestly don’t even know how they would do that with these ones! But if anyone could figure it out, it’s probably them!
How secure are the magnetics? I run and gun so don't have even thing about them coming on or off.
They're pretty solid, you can give them a decent shake without them coming off. If I put them in my bag with the filter on, sometimes the bag will "squeeze" and when I pull the camera out, it will come off. But generally I've been happy with the magnetic strength.
@@dunnadidit thanks for reply! I
Also am I even able to put this system OVER my black pro mist filter? I like to keep a Ir cut and pro mist on all my lenses
Great video and amazing tool! Thanks! If I've got 2 lenses with 2 different filter threads (77mm&82mm) can I buy an adaptor to screw on the lens (77->82) and then the Freewell base ring? I'm trying to figure out which one to buy from Freewell, but got 2 different lenses. Would love a reply from you as you've also used it and you're a pro in the field, thanks!
Yeah, you’ll want a step up ring! 77-82mm I have step up rings on most of my lenses to make them all the “same size”
@@dunnadidit amazing! thank you!
Hello! Can someone answer me if I can use this system on Canon RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM? I really want to buy this but I hace to check. And where is it best to buy to Norway?
You should be able to! Just have to make sure to get the right size/step ups.
I assume that you can not use a lens hood. Will not using a lens hood cause you to loose contrast or will the filters help with light flare. Thanks!
The Freewell magnetic system looks wonderful! But is the 6-9 stop variable ND the same, optically, as the 16-9 variable ND you reviewed against the PolarPros? Because I was surprised at how inconsistent the look of the Freewell 6-9 looked compared to the 2-5, whereas the PolarPros had a much more consistent look between the two filters.
In your older video, you mentioned that the intensity of the mist was different between the 2-5 and 6-9 (the 6-9 had much more diffusion). How would you compare the one they added in this kit? Is it more subtle like the 2-5 or powerful like the 6-9? Thanks!
I’ve found it to be a fairly heavy mist. Something like a 1/4 diffusion
@@dunnadidit Ok great! Thank you very much for taking the time to reply!
@@jordanhamelin9228 Hi Jordan, have you finally bought this filter kit ? I've been struggling with Freewell as the mist base I received is finally a 1/8 mist filter... Personnaly I don't see any difference between the MistxVnd base and the Vnd base. I've tried many configurations, and no mist or bloomy effect at all for me ... :(
@@osmithmusicvideo No I didn’t sorry!
@@jordanhamelin9228 ok. Thanks for the answer
How do they work?
could you ask freewell why they don’t make a ND2 & ND4 solid nd filters
1stop 2stop
Polar pro also don’t have 1 & 2 stops either, but I have kolari and b+w 2 stops
Oh kolari do have 1 to 8 stops but only in 52mm
Okay, I ordered it thanks to your review!
Now I need to wait till September and hope it will be worth it 😅
At least I got a discount)
It will be totally worth it!!
@@dunnadidit well, my main concern is that I mostly shoot action and fights, so yeah, it's cool that i can rapidly swap filters, but I'm worried about the toughness of magnets so the filter won't fall off if i make quick pans and tilts
hi dunna, is there any way you can combine the CPL with one of the NDs with this new product? If you have mentioned it in the video, I am sorry I was not able to catch it :)
Part of this product is that if you use the 2-5 filter but flipped around and without the VND base, it’s a CPL. The 6-9 filter used in the same way is an ND32CPL. Hope that helps!
@@dunnadidit thank you so much! sorry for the noob question :D
@@dunnadidit so that means that you can't use the combination 2-5 stop VND and CPL at the same time, right? But I suppose you can can do 6-9 Stop and CPL (2-5 backwards)?
@@mariushjust ordered kit from Amazon but trying to find the answer to the same question. It looks like you are right. I was hoping to be able to use vnd/mist and cpl all at the same time but it does not seem possible so my order will have to be cancelled.
great video, may i ask what focal length do you you use to shoot your A roll ?
It’s changed a bunch lately. If I’m in the studio, and standing just with a talking head, it will be 35 or 55 usually. If I need to show a desk, it will be somewhere between 16 and 20mm and if I’m out and about it’s usually that same 16-20 to keep me close to the mic.
@@dunnadidit thanks a lot 🙏
My pleasure!
Looks to be a great system! Great breakdown of the different filters. How strong are the magnets though? Slightly concerned that the filter might pop off with an accidental bump or a strong jerking motion.
I haven’t run into the issue of them falling off accidentally except if I pack my bag too tight, ill pull the camera out and the filter will stay sometimes if it got pinched in there. They’re really well fitted so they kind of “latch” in a bit which makes them feel more secure. I’m sure you could shake it hard enough or bump it hard enough to make it fall but it hasn’t happened to me in my regular use.
Late to the game, but I did run into some issues with the filters falling off, or sometimes just the lens cap. This was during a hiking/backpacking trip, where the lens would occasionally rub against my chest using the Peak clip. Loved the filters, but returned them because of this. If you aren't hiking with them, they are an excellent buy
Aww man amazing vid
my english is very bad, is there a way to use a nd 2-5 and the mist together?
Yes! So you put the mist VND base in and then the 2-5 stop VND on top. So you can use the VND’s with or without the mist effect.
Appreciate the education on ND filters, Dunna! Just picked up my a6400 to update the quality of my videos and wanting to start doing client work. I’d love to know your thoughts on the Tamron 17-70 f2.8 vs the Sony 18-105 f4. Somewhat different focal lengths for sure but for someone that needs to get closer to his subject but wants more range - what would you suggest?
It’s really tough, I actually talked about it a bunch in my 17-70 review. I think for most people I’d recommend the 17-70 tho.
@@dunnadidit sounds good. Again, appreciated. You a real one, Dunna! 👍🏽👍🏽
I am sorry if you said it and I missed it, but does this set work in combination with step-up rings?
It should work no problem! It has a standard thread on the back of the base ring!
@@dunnadidit Great to know, thanks!
so what do you recommend for sigma 16mm 1.4 best filter to use for beginner (video recording) im having a headache with these numbers. blah blah
Hi guys, can I run a CPL with variable ND on this system?
Dose all that nd overlapping glass not distort real clean image? On the other hand, I loved information and your video! Blueish on the Left and red on the right in the backgroun. Looked neat and dramatic
Any idea if this would lead to vignetting on a 14--30mm? I could see myself stacking a base filter and VND. I also have step up rings to 82mm (where I've standardized), which may lead to even higher chances. A simple magnetic way to hold a 100mm GND would also be pretty awesome!
Hmm… I haven’t used it at 14mm but I’ve been using it at 16mm on full frame for quite a while now and haven’t run into any issues!
Another question, on my Freewell 2-5 stop ND, I find it doesn't have enough resistance to avoid "slipping" (turning) on its own when not wanted. Curious about how "rigid" the turn is on this new system?
Will this work with step down rings!?!?
Seems handy but also quite expensive. How does those filters work with lens hoods?
Are they a universal size? Like will these fit on my 20mm
Can someone tell me how that indiegogo works.. will the full package with filters and base come available at their webside or even amazon anywhere soon :)?
It’s a preorder platform, it helps smaller companies fund new products. You get a discount for buying early, but you have to wait a bit to get it. After the indiegogo campaign ends and the product is in full production, they will add it to their site as a normal product.
@@dunnadidit wuaw thanks for the quick answer and good explanation, what about the money i donate on indiegogo do i get the bundle when the campaign ends?? :)
Yeah! It’s not a donation at all, you’re pre-ordering the product. Sometimes, crowdfunding can be a bit risky if the company is super new and if the product isn’t fully funded. But because freewell is already a trustworthy company, already has the means to produce these products (they manufacture themselves) and the product is already fully funded… it’s basically just a preorder. It should say on the site when they’re shipping the products out too.
@@dunnadidit Thanks dunna you just secured me this filter bundle! ❤️And keep up your awesome videos!
Glad to hear it!