Religious Freedom... Does it exist in China?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- American Ambassador Burns and Senator Marco Rubio claim there is no religious freedom in China.. But how true is that?
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My aunt worked for an Anglican charity for years in China! I have visited lots of churches and temples in China. Absolutely no issues at all.
because your aunt does not use religion to manipulate politics, there is no issue.
however.............
@@ILuveveryfanwhy would she? 😂
But real Chinese not allow believe it in public
@@LucyMarry-d5zwhat is real Chinese? Are you creating a new race out of Chinese? You are racist.
@@ILuveveryfanwhy would you use religion to manipulate the politics? Is that allowed in the west?
I attended worship service in China. Peace to all.
I went to China as a tourist, I am muslim I found fairly big mosques in every major city’s center, I went to Beijing, mosques everywhere, Shanghai a mosque besides the Yu garden, Xi’an many mosques in the muslim quarter which is located in the heart of the city (huge mosque there where I attended friday prayer), Chengdu a mosque in the city center on the side of the square in front of Mao’s statue.
I lived in spain before in granada where islam was the main religion for centuries and let me tell you there was only one far away mosque recently built by the king of Morocco.
So don’t tell me China oppresses religion mister ambassador of the united states of Armagedon
As a Christian man who happened to stay in Beijing for a year I attened church without an issue. I even talked to eldery men and Women at an old Chinese catholic church.
but it has restrictions. can you spread the gospel? no
and the services are very formal, and if they change anything they will et shut down. and most the money goes to the CCP, not for humanitarian purposes of their choice.
so depends on what you define as being Christian.
@@JalomMatiaIf ppl are religious, keep it as your own beliefs. Don't bother other ppl. That's the way it should be.
@@yunshenghe932 exactly, you shouldn't 'bother' other people if you are spreading your faith/religion. it should be done peacefully so as not to bother people. but it isn't just that. just as people will seek help for their physical health, people will always seek spiritual guides/beliefs/religions in pursuit of their spritual health or curiousity. but no religion should ever be forced taught to people.
@@JalomMatia
Religions especially the four common Abrahamic religions are mind controls to create wars and conflicts between humans. Most of the wars in world history since their creations have been started by them, often fighting each other among themselves. China is being too loose to allow the most dangerous threat to the human race to exist in China, in my opinion religions shouldn't be allowed in China at all. The world can only have peace when there are no religions.
@@JalomMatiaThe Chinese have their own mythology system and do not need to spread it. Christianity requires people to worship God, but Chinese religion does not. China's religious system does not worship God, but reaches a tacit understanding with God. This is caused by the different histories of Asia and Europe. Both sides also suffered a great flood thousands of years ago. The Western record is that God sent Noah's Ark to save the world, while the Eastern record is that humans managed and defeated the flood through their own efforts. There is a fundamental difference. It is useless for humans to worship gods if they cannot solve the problems they encounter.
First time I went to China maybe 11 years ago, there was headlines in Sweden stating All mosqos was closed in China, funny since I was just meters away from several that was open and active. Shortly shortly after similar headlines stating all churches in China was closed, we was in Shanghai that time and there several churches was open... It's nothing but manufacturing consent and pure propaganda.
Let's learn something new: China is the only country that provides halal canteens on aircraft carriers.
We need people like you speaking out the truth and debunking the lies by the Western officials, which are obviously said deliberately, purposefully and with an agenda to serve the Western government, the Western ideologies and politics.
What lies? Most is true. You don’t read reports ? Just agree with state media?
@@JohnSmith-sm7ez Go to China yourself and you can see evidence of truth everywhere. The truth does not just lie in the “state media” as you alleged. I agree with and follow the truth, not state media. And what reports do you read and have your opinions based on? Whatever reports you read, do you really think the so-called “reports” fed to you everyday, even the official ones published by the government are viewpoint neutral without any bias or political agenda? And what report is more truthful than see something with your own eyes and having someone share their real life experience in China? Even the Western media are supported and subsidised by the government and often politics driven. It’s already a well known fact that the US has spent billions of dollars on spreading disinformation about China. So stop being so simple and naive, please speak with facts rather than making such an abstract comment and accusation against me. Or if you just want to believe in whatever the Western officials/ reports/ media tell you and turn a blind eye on what’s happening in the real world, then go ahead and that’s your issue.
(Seems like my comment has been automatically deleted again and again after I posted it.)
@@JohnSmith-sm7ez 如果你认为这是谎言，那不妨亲自来中国看一看，这样会有助于你了解真相
@@JohnSmith-sm7ez If you want to know the truth, you should look it up yourself instead of getting the information you want from online news
Religion should be a private matter. The Western weaponize religion. That can only hurt religion in the end. In China, no one will bother you if you practice your religion privately. What may get you into trouble if you use religion as a weapon for political activity. We all know that Falan Kung is banned in China. But very few know why. Falan Kung was freely practiced in China for a long period of time until its founder mobilized its members to surround the Zhong Nanhai, the China's equivalent of the White House , making political demands.
Falun gung is problematic for multiple reasons. Their practice prohibits practitioners from using medical care, and exhibits cultish traits that are concerning.
The west weaponise anything that can tackle china down.
it's because they choose their spiritual beliefs supreme over the government. that is the only reason why.
Falun Gong is the ultimate truth of the universe
@@albback8176I don’t understand why Westerners worship God without hesitation instead of exploring the wonders of an unknown world.
In China, you have the right to join any religious group and also no one forces you to have any religion.
有信仰的自由，更难能可贵的是 有不信的自由！
And kids under 18 years of age are not allowed to be indoctrinated by their parents’ religious beliefs. Instead they are only allowed to attend religious ceremonies once they are 18 years old as this will give them a choice in whether to follow a religion.
However, many religious freaks are afraid of such age restrictions as they lose out on believers when they can’t brainwash them at young age.
Speaks a lot about what religion really is.
@@胡蓝-m2i Lol 👌🫶🥰
WE DONT ALL BELIEVE LIES TOLD TO US FROM WESTERN GOVERNMENTS JULIE
楼上的，正解了。
Those Senators are ignorant
Ignorant is a very kind word to describe them.
美国通过一项法案，每年用15亿美元，培训新闻工作者报道中国负面新闻………真是自由啊。
Willfully so
They are just evil.
Those so call politician will do anything to get support using religious, racial, and create enemy of another country just to make themself seem relevant. My advise is don`t ever support such politician as competent one will shown the result of their work not play this kind of BS stunt.
Thank you for telling the truth
As a Chinese, I really appreciate you spreading the truth. Most Chinese people have no religious belief, so they have no contradiction or hostility toward religion, but oppose crimes in the name of religion. Chinese people's own beliefs are mostly philosophical, mainly the combination of Confucianism, Buddhism and Taoism(儒释道). In particular, Tao（道） is the Chinese people's cognition of the laws of nature. Everything must be rational（道理）, moral（道义）, and ethical（道德）.
There is an old Chinese saying ：
“上善若水。水善利万物而不争，居众人之所恶。故几于道。”
“Perfect natural relationships are like water. Water is good at nourishing all things and has its own form, and does not compete with everyone in the place that everyone hates (the ditch). So water is closest to Tao in behavior.”
如果要论中国人的信仰，道教已经刻在中国人的DNA里了，比如说求财拜神，孩子上学，婚丧嫁娶得选个良辰吉日，但也不那么迷信，左眼跳会以为难道要发财，右眼跳去他娘的封建迷信😂不过中国人也相信人定胜天，王侯将相宁有种乎，现实中也确实如此，人这一生过好每一天，无所谓拜神还是什么，不要虚度光阴就好。
China has the most religious freedom. Everyone can practice the religious they believe as long as it stay out of politic and does not cause social issue. I see that as true faith not those that need some politician to enforce on you.
In China I met two elderly Muslims in a city (Panjin) with a small Muslim population-35 families they told me. Their large beautiful mosque was built and paid for by the😮 government they said.
all my family members are muslim from Beijing, Shandong, Xinjiang, Nanjing and Ningxia. Muslims is quite common in China, pretty much all provinces has muslim communities
You are completely wrong. China has the highest degree of religious freedom in the world. This is not a recent phenomenon. China has the highest degree of religious freedom in the world for the last 2,000 years. In the West, you have to go back to the Roman Empire to have that kind of religious freedom. You can believe in any religion and the government could not care less.
The problem comes when you insist on intruding into government policy in the name of religion. You need to leave whatever belongs to Caesar to Caesar. The Church does not have the right to put its finger in government affairs in the name of religious freedom.
Christian churches are not allowed to minister or spread the gospel in public, they are not allowed to do humanitarian aid in the name of their religion, and many other restrictions. you can go to church, which is great, but many things are restricted.
As it should be, so many chaos and wars are fought in the name of religions and China is making the right choice in keep them separated from all aspects of government and religion should never hold any power in China.
Laughable comment.
U need to watch the whole video, not only the first 20secs....
His whole video other thn the first 20sec, where he was quoting some ignorant American senate, is supportive to Chinese's freedom in practicing religion.. 😂
Ambassador Burns has really taken American “diplomacy” to a new level. Every statement he makes seems to be aimed at worsening the relationship between the 2 countries 😂
He’s not doing his job as an ambassader and should be expelled from China, like clearing out garbages.
Taking orders from top admin only. He' among the top 3 shit-stirrers.
It's targeted to make sure that when war breaks out between China and USA over Taiwan that the American population is 100% on board. Anything the US government or MSM say about China are all lies.
His mission in China is not to foster understanding but to try weaken China from "the inside".
American arrogance and exceptionalism.
Chinese government makes mistakes a lot, but different from the USA. The Chinese government can find ways to solve the problems. Any problems can be solved because of the flexibility of Chinese systems. However problems in the USA would last forever.
Has the Chinese government made many mistakes? ! Tell us clearly what mistakes the Chinese government has made? ! Don't take advantage of every opportunity to confuse the audience! Said nine good things about China just for to mix of one to confuse the public! 😏
I wont be surprised if a US politician is hostile to China on religious freedom. In China, a party member is not allowed to be religuos whereas in the US many politicians are religious. In fact, religion has too much power in the US politics and imo it's a terrible thing. Imo I respect religious freedom but also a believer of the separation of state and church.
The following article is written by Ismail Bashmori, he is an Egyptian China watcher.
The truth is that China is the greatest country on the face of the earth. It makes all other countries look insignificant and contemptible. It is the most brilliant, most industrious, most ambitious, most educated, meritocratic and technocratic, most modern, sophisticated, and civilised, and best-governed by far.
It is the first non-white, non-Western country to reach this status since the 1600s. The determination of this country is indescribable. Supernatural. There is no force that can stop it from accomplishing anything it wants to do. 。
It doesn’t matter who we are. Egyptians, Syrians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, even Americans. Next to the Chinese, we are pathetic. We can’t do what they do. We would have a mountain, an Everest of changes to make, and we would whine and bicker and fail at every one of them. China’s story since the 1980s has been one of an almost divine metamorphosis. 。
Next to China the entire Western world from Alaska to New Zealand has stagnated. Next to China the entire developing world from Brazil to Madagascar has progressed only at a crawl.
China is the mother of all gargantuan bullet trains. Every day it manages to create something new and astonishing. And unlike the United States, unlike the British Empire, unlike the French, Dutch, Germans, Spanish, Portuguese or any other Western nation that had its turn at being a superpower in the past four centuries, China doesn’t need to run anybody over or take something from somebody else, to rise majestically.
China is also standing up to the West all by herself. The West can’t believe their four-hundred-year-old global supremacy is being challenged. They hoped that the more China developed, the more it would submit to their influence, interests, and leadership. That didn’t happen. So now they will do anything possible, short of a nuclear war, to make China end.
Their goal is to destroy this country. That’s why, although the United States has killed several million people and turned several regions of the earth into hellscapes.
China is the worst fear of our planet’s Western masters. They want you to despise and dread a country that’s done nothing to you, that hasn’t invaded anyone, bombed or sanctioned anyone, that hasn’t overthrown any foreign government, or used its military on anything since 1979.
China is the only major country in the nonwhite developing world, to stand up to the West. To look it in the eye when challenged or threatened.
The Global South are simply Western puppets who submitted long ago. Even the most powerful ones. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, India.
Above only part of the article, you can read the full article under the following link.
www.dailyexpress.com.my/read/4459/west-can-t-believe-nor-accept-china-s-progress/?fbclid=IwAR3aJYSZC3rbUgM1NwHCO73XxnNzNkJPa9wrSsFp-4KMxTozuJiHBwLJDXU
I have read the full text of the brilliant words and depth of knowledge of Mr Ismail Basmori and I earnestly encourage those readers who want to support China's rise to read it.
Ridiculous article. All the tribal fanatics, high anxiety UA-cam geeks will love it though.
@@JohnSmith-sm7ez , Not mention about all riots happened in the world such as Hong Kong riot, Xinjiang riots, Tian An Men Protest etc. which organized by ARMerica , only talk about war. In 250 years of existence as a nation, the US has fought against 29 sovereign countries. (In Fact, since 1785, US have been involved, for 219 years, in some kind of war. And this wars, against all varieties of sovereign nations. From going against the Sultan of Morocco, to invading the tiny island of Grenada. Well, this means that in its entire history, it has only had 17 years of peace, and even fewer, cuz here the almost 5 years (1861-1865), of its Civil War of Secession are not counted (Union/Confederates), since this war was not with another country, but against US. And the wars against the Native Nations of America are not counted too, for the same reason). Anyway: US fought against 29 countries. It has "Grown" 711 times the size of its territory from the original 13 colonies. It has provoked with total impunity, Genocides, inside and outside its own borders, and assassinations of Gov’t. Leaders, Coups d'État and Economic Blockades in 6 UN member nations. (Between 1947 and 1989, the US tried to change other nations gov’ts. 73 times. It includes 66 covert Ops. And 7 overt ones. In Civil Wars: The US has taken advantage of and intervened without justification in the following Civil Wars: In Cuba (1898 and 1960). In Haiti (1813 and then 1915-1934). In Colombia (1899-1902 and 1948). In Mexico (1847 and 1914 and again in 1916). In Russia (1918). In the "Republic Banana Wars" of Central America (1912-1934). In Venezuela (1945 and again in 1948). In China (1857, and 1900, and again in 1945-1946-1949). In Korea (1950-1953). In Viet Nam (1959-1975). In Panama (1964 and again 1989). In Central Africa (1969-1974 and 1982-1988). In Nicaragua (1937 and 1985). In Bosnia (1995). In the Philippines (1898 and 1900)... In Kosovo, Libya, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Afghanistan, etc.). And more: US has almost 800 Military Bases scattered around the world; 93 of which are against China. On the other hand, China and N. Korea (The "Axis of Evil"), in 1,000 years of history have NEVER invaded anyone. These nations have fought their Civil Wars, defended themselves against foreign invasions, and secured their immediate borders, but they have never been meddling or aggressor countries. Do you know how many Military Bases China or N. Korea have outside their territory? None. Zero. Any. NADA! They do not have a single Base. These are verifiable facts. Neither China nor Korea will invade the world; US does... that's DONE, as US does in the Middle East. Iran also does not have a SINGLE MILITARY BASE outside its national territory, and it is surrounded by 16 US Bases, and it is US who call the Iranians Terrorists. Well, very good. You already know. Now, compare the Greatness of the US with the Greatness of China. The "Greatness" of the US is built on the foundations of Piracy, Slavery, Genocide, the Assassination of opponents, Opium Traffic, or Cocaine in its case, and is under the foundations of the weakness of other sovereign nations. LOL…..Chai from Malaysia.
This Mr. @JohnSmith-sm7ez is either ignorant or Open eyes and tell lies! 😏
@@JohnSmith-sm7ez-1👎
In China, religion and state are really separate even in the ancient time unlike US and most of the western countries. In US separation of religion and state is a joke especially in recent years.
the imperial court itself is a giant church, the emperor, in chinese is a word combined from 2 separate word of "immortal and saint (god)", the actual title of the emperor is son of heaven, which job is to "herd" the people on behalf of the heaven, which is identical to what priest and pastor of Christianity, thats why government in china need to talk about morality, whereas in the west, secular leaders can commit wrong doing and than seek forgiveness from higher power.
This is thr best Non... ambassador....is he appointed to build relationship or to wheck relationship😅😂😂
I am extremely grateful to you for revealing the truth to the world based on your personal experiences from having lived and made observations in China. Thank you very much indeed.
religion and China,,, reminding of the events in Hong Kong 2019,,, the Falun Gong sect,, priests (Christians),, and cardinals (Catholics),, all involved in practical politics... when religion is directed horizontally it will become an organization, there are organizations that lead and are led and ultimately can be ridden by other parties...
That's where the "lawful" comes in. Religion should be practiced as a personal and private affair. Religious organizations should be taking care of their adherents spiritual needs, not get mixed into politics. Once you mixed religion into politics, then that organization should be examine and banned if necessary. Religion and politics are extremely dangerous because that's how you get religious extremists committing heinous acts, breaking the law, sedition, infiltrating the government and creating its own government within a government while inviting outside forces seeking to destabilize the country. Religion is important for the well-being of the people but it cannot be a trojan horse for a country's destruction.
well, "organised religion" is a thing
Burnsies should print the phrase "redefining diplomacy" after his name on his business card 🤣
Thank you for clarifying the religion matters
Religious freedom in US: freedom to mock Christianity by the woke movement there.
From Hong Kong, I saw a Muslim parked in the pocket of a bus stop, (anytime a fine of hkd$400 could be given without excuse) laid down a sheet on the side of the road (not pavement, the road) started praying. a police on a motorcycle came and turned on the emergency light waiting for the prayer to finish, (to avoid coming traffic crashing into him) then they took off one after another peacefully. when given respect, religions is equal.
In the USA you know what would have happened to that man
@@DW-op7ly Let me guess. Police arrives and the ambulance follows soon, then a bunch of reporters.
@@DW-op7ly I have never been to the US, no clue. Care to share? lol
@@andieman3000
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In Islam, you are not allowed to pray anywhere. It needs to only happen inside a Mosque or inside your home. Even UAE has started fines for that. I don't know what these so called pseudo Muslims thinks
The main purpose of churches in the USA and Europe is providing an environment where priests can sexually abuse children. See report: 1. Spanish Church sexual abuse affected 200000 children, commission finds. 2. Sex abuse in Catholic Church: Nearly 2,000 children abused in Illinois, state finds. 3. Church child sex abuse allegations from more than 600 victims detailed in new ...there are two many report, if I keep on typing, I may exceed the maximum number of text allowed
The religious text also encourage such crimes. There are verses that said they are god's anointed, God will punish them, believers should leave it to God. This is the reason why priests and politicians can commit all the crimes and not be punished for it.
@@IA100KPDT completely false. it is very clear in the bible that people like that are to be judged by other members, and if found guilty and do not repent, they are to be thrown out of the church. also, the Catholic church is not set up as a Christian church in how it should be. putting the Father and Priests on a high pedestal is not Christian.
@@JalomMatia dont u read the bible? Its written by politicians and religious leaders. The 2 groups that are claimed to be "elected" by God, anointed and untouchable. Thats why you have pedophiles running amok and seldom do you see them get punished.
In 19th century China, you can commit a crime and ran to a Church under British or French Concession and you will be protected, the western church providing a refuge for all the criminals.
@@JalomMatia You are living in a cave then. How many pedophiles brought to trials and jailed? in 19th century China, criminals will commit crime and ran to British/French Concession and claimed they are Christians and find refuge and protection in the churches. They became untouchables. Not to mention many priests and church workers are agents and spies for their respective govts.
@@JalomMatia
Protestant Christianity is flawed too, there are also such crimes in it. Right now the mighty powerful Christian evangelist John Hagee in USA is supporting and promoting k,!ll,in,gs of ch! Idren in Gaza!
I do like your way to tell the truth about China! You’re a well educated young man.❤
Religion is legal in China, they just have to follow the rules there.
Yes , utter shite rules. So less religious freedom. Obviously
@@JohnSmith-sm7ez some 1 once said, let what belong to Caesar remain Caesar's, religion that affect mortal world should be a no in everywhere, instead people in the west abuse religion to justified murder, stealing and robbery, and the irony of the west telling us thats civility.
no, just because you are a follower of certain faith, therefore you have the freedom do whatever you like, and i laugh at how europe islmaised. good job woke minion.
@@JohnSmith-sm7ezwhich rules you think is s*** exactly?
Can you point out one?
@@JohnSmith-sm7ez
There no e in the word sh!t
@@JohnSmith-sm7ez Want to talk about Crusades and their forced conversion on people and the various much worst cultural genocide the Christians have committed for centuries?
Excellent analysis. China is the world’s freest society in so many ways.
That’s completely false.
@@JohnSmith-sm7ezGo to Iran than
@@JohnSmith-sm7ezyou are completely wrong and stupid!
@@JohnSmith-sm7ezdid you go to the China before?
I like your take on issues. This is not an new subject. Your wordings make me seeing more “something”! Kudos, kid.
very informative👍👍👍
哈哈哈，我喜欢看西方up主的一些视频，其中说中国没有各种自由的视频是平时休闲娱乐的好视频。记得之前看过一个视频，说中国不可以骂政府，有人要对抗政府要推翻政府的自由都没有。娱乐了我好几天。我一直想看西方人民有推翻自己国家政府的自由，但是等了也有十几年了，一直没有等到，甚是可惜。我这个中文评论，不知道是否有西方人能看到，能读懂？
看看占领国会的那帮人的下场，再看看西方UP主们的反华言论，不搞笑是不正常的。
The problem is There's no problem. The CPC is In my opinion one of the best and most honest government in the world. They do so much for the people of China and the ones around them and get nothing in return. Just because The United Stocks Criss of America Thinks they're ruling the world with "democracy" or some imperial bullshit. Freedom of speech can never be replaced with well being. Never.
Thank you for expressing your opinion 😊
Sorry if I got away a bit
I really wish the best for China
@@Hongsebaoshi 关于幸福感，我切身的体会是非常好的。对了，关于宗教，西方媒体总说中国没有宗教自由，实际上，我大学同学好几个是基督教的，每周都有礼拜。每个人都可以有自己的信仰。虽然我不信教，但是我不排斥宗教（当然，如果是哪些所谓邪教，比如一些教会信奉之后就会让你奉献上你的财富，你的身体，甚至你的家人的这种教会在中国是坚决杜绝的。）关于共产党，在中国有一句话：党员优先。可能在西方媒体嘴里会说共产党员有特权有优先权。但是，实际上是碰到困难党员要挡在前面，碰到打仗党员要冲在前面挡枪，碰到大火党员要优先出来灭火，碰到洪水党员要优先出来抗洪。所以我对党印象是很好的。
up这个词一看就是b站老玩家了23333
@@ljroland663Yeah 😊
Me too
A life where you can pick if you believe religion or not is the best for me. Also life without homeless people or gun violence. Also affordable housing and living expenses
Recently, *Dr Ali Rashid Al Nuaimi*
Founder + Chairman of *The World Muslim Communities Council* visited Xinjiang.
He concluded in no uncertain terms that Uyghurs live very well in China, and that their religion and culture are very well protected in China.
He is just one of thousands of Muslims who have visited Xinjiang.
Good report Harvey 👏
Religion should be home for souls,not excuses for war,Chinese know that well.
Thank you for your observation.
In China, religion is religion and politics is politics. If you don’t cross the line and interfere in things you shouldn’t interfere with, then you will have no trouble. In addition, without the approval and filing of the religious affairs department, you cannot preach openly in public places. You can only Do religious things in religious places.
atp, Burns should just be kicked out of China
I remember reading that they have 39,000 mosques.
Bigger fish to fry here in the US of A. Uniparty sendin our taxes to Raytheon.
Better!
Thanks Harvey.
Here's my 2 cents worth opinion. Cults (just don't tell me FLG is a religion) are banned in China. We have seen grievances caused by cults too often. Imposing a religion on young ones is illegal. I reckon it's a human right not to be made a follower by parent's will. Chinese culture has morphed into tolerance and embracing, instead of being exclusive, and hence peace. In the past hundreds of years, China didn't have extensive war due to religious causes. The Taiping rebellion was started by a wannabe cult leader. Those "One God only" religions are not the most dominant one in China, thank "God"!
if you want to find cult , korea is their heaven . so many cult there and their leader are the God
@@hink0027 The chopstick country will celebrate any win over China.
In a Chinese city I visited recently, there was a gigantic Christian cross and church visible from the highway.
The Chinese government does not have religion but educating us must respect people who have religions.
I stopped believing in religion since I was a kid tbh
And I come from one of the most religious countries on earth
i also stop believing religion , since religion only bring war not peace
Yes. Chinese government officials are not allowed to practice religion. The only belief of communists is communism.
شكرًا
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing this information.
Outside of China, I've never seen such fun, mystery, safety, food
Thank you🙏👍🙏
Thanks mate watching from Australia
The problem is monotheism. It tends to polarize people into "they" against "us".
You are right, young man…
I wish to sincerely apologise to the presenter of this video for wrongly criticising him. I had been badly misled by the negatively worded title.
Good video & good arguing
Thank you for this informative video 🌹👍🌹
Spot on 👍. I have been to large churches in China.
好的宗教律己，壞的邪教律他。只要你不影像其他人，信什麼宗教是你的自由。就像吃飯一樣，沒有人會關心你喜歡吃什麼飯。更不會反對或者贊成你吃什麼飯。
非常同意。己所不欲勿施于人
China 🇨🇳 is more tolerance in a way and less Rassist... Since the Silk Road many Cultures and Religions are present and the main focus is trading, not conquering ❤😂🎉😅😊
In Sanya there is a huuuge buddha statue, I visited it in 2016, it was amazing!
The west does not see Buddhism or Taoism as religions. 😂
Just ask how many Chinese Buddhist templs in the West VS Churches and Mosques in China. Confusius schools in US and Europe are shut down and the teaching staff were arrested and persecuted.
freedom of speech and freedom to assemble is guaranteed in Chinese constitution too
USA: we against genocide and stand up against invasion
also USA: we gonna supply weapon and funds for genocide and invasion to that "I" country which name cant be reveal, LOL
❤you are a realy man with justice👍
way to go Harvey, excellent presentation, do keep up the good werk. i have traveled the world a fair bit (although, sad to say i have not made it to china, being 71 years of age i need to get my skates on and get over there). in my travels i have meet tons of chinese and people who have been there, lack of religious freedom has NEVER been on the radar with them. i have also had loads of contact with yankees and westerners in general, and they absolutely stink of it. all da best, over and out!
hope u visit China.Welcome to China
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It's never too late if you want it. China has the best public infrastructure and very good healthcare. Welcome to travel in China.
If poleop know the truth and demand for the same governance like the government if China, what would happen 😂😂😂😂
it is not possible, West people live their culture environment, they have their unique ideologic that is different with Chinese who grow up with a Chinese ideologic.
It's not possible, the west culture have formed the ideologic of self-governance from ancient Greece, back to that time, even the generals were take turns for commanding. After that and till the mid century, ppl had gone trough wars, suffers, yet the needs for self-governance is not change at all and renaissance came after. It's not like they found a better way so they will take it, no, it does not work like that. Then whole western culture is based on the balance between central power and elections, which is called democracy.
So does the Asians, Asian countries will take whatever is the best to develop the country, ppl there are just pragmatism. You see China is a communism society, yet it's more like a combination of capitalism and communisms, which basically the Chinese citizens are actually living in a capitalism life meanwhile the major industries are under control of the government.
Even if further future some countries learned to the Chinese system, yet the seed of self-governance will still been planted under the soil.
@@bubbleseeker I agree with you that is not possible. but can you go deeper on this point? in fact, I don't agree with that you give reasons. For example, why did ancient Greece have the consciousness of autonomous people? What is the economic basis of their sense of self-government? For example, if a family did not have enough to eat or wear warmly every day more than 2,000 years ago, would they become more independent or more dependent? If the dependence was dependent on God, or on a certain collective? At that time, the consciousness of the autonomous people was only in the slave owners, because the slaves' labor made the slave owners' lives okay. As for slaves, their food and clothing were not that important.
This is the reason why Christianity spread quickly when it came to Greece and Roma, because slaves needed a God or heaven to give them hope so that they could pray for happiness in the next life. In addition, people in the Middle Ages believed in God and the suffering caused by original sin to Western people.
There are many issues worth discussing.
I grew up in Hong Kong and California, attended Catholic and Christianity schools but never gained the talent of faith which I deemed fortunate. I have been living in China for a long time. Like you said religion is all free in China on a personal level but the preaching of religion is not allowed in schools and I like that.
A few hundred ago western missionaries were not welcomed in many countries including Japan and China. At a time when most were undereducated and poor, beliefs could easily stir unrest. Therefore the governments banned them. Curbing the spread of western religion was a main reason China and Japan only opened one seaport to accommodate foreign ships and traders. Inspite of the efforts, the religion or cult centered Boxer Rebellion cause 30 million or more civilian deaths circa 1900. In fact certain elements of religious war are in process right before our eyes in Palestine.
In many former western colonies such as HK or present proxies such as Japan, a lot of non believers autonomously celebrate Christmas or hold wedding ceremonies at a church where the bride embrace putting on a wedding gown as dream come true, or something high class and chic. Personally I despise that kind of social practice. I would bluntly regard them as nonsense, no offence.
When I was younger I always found it a mystery that if God was a good guy, why threaten to send me to hell if I didn’t believe? Later I tend to conclude that although the saints are mysterious, religions have mostly been used as a political tool for rulers of populations, perhaps like Trump praying for Covid at the NYC church holding a Bible.
BTW, running down the screen I can see you seldom use sarcastic or funny titles like this one-China has NO religious freedom. It’s not a practice. More passers by read your title without clicking to watch your video, especially people with limited English skills would not recognise the sarcasm and therefore have their brains more washed as a result. It’s a bad thing that many other vloggers keep doing this.
It’s not sarcasm. Anti cn content are 100 times more likely to be clicked on on yt
China do have religious freedom
You are telling the world the truth.
To most of Chinese people (who are generally agnostic) what your personal beliefs and religious views doesn’t concern them. As most of us believe in spirits and ancestors. Maybe it will matter to couples who want to get married, but no one cares about fighting over religion. You do you, don’t try to push me. And we just hang out. I personally never understood religious wars😅people fighting over which intangible deity is right?
I believe that there’s countless deities that exist, spiritual or religious. But fighting over it is like going to war because you disagree on your zodiac signs or something.
I get that this may be offensive, but I don’t see the point in people dying for this stuff. Just feels like people being manipulated by their rulers, except they won’t admit it. Also the extremism and superiority complex should stay far away from religion. Very sad and violent incidents occur because of poor teachings. Anyone that promotes their own beliefs as superior to others is immediately a red flag to me.
different people groups will fight no matter what as shown in history, whether they have no religions or share the same religion. they will find a difference to fight for. difference in race, wealth, power, appearance, land territory, customs...whatever it may be.
佛陀几千年前就非常肯定的告诉世界，印度教及婆罗门教是外道邪教，这是不是说明佛教不是高于邪教，而是不和他们为一类，根本不在一个级别
Shame on Nicholas Burms. As a Roman Catholic,you cannot tell lies. Attended Sunday Mass with my wife. Didn't see any lack of religious freedom.
they will tell you its no lie, thats what they thought, and thought is not a crime.
just like buying a cup with USD90,000, no theres no corruption, just simply accidentally paid an overprice object, see? its not like we dont know about "paying silver for ticket to heaven" kind of thing, even though its obviously not principally correct.
The key is that the Chinese have had a different conception of religion from the very start. They saw religions not as systems of dogmas or rules presided over by clergy and political hierarchies, but as spiritual philosophies best experienced at the individual level. Thus, each individual chose from each religion or spiritual tradition--Taoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, etc--what resonated with that person, what fit in with their worldview, creating their own sensibility. China, in other words, had a syncretic view of religion, so the above-named religions evolved with a more flexible, tolerant outlook--which was very different from the top-down, dogmatic outlook of the Western religions (Christianity, Buddhism, Islam) which have been prone to intolerance.
actually the key is religion is a co-partner in ruling in the west, while in China, religion has always been abused to start rebellion, and not helping the case is certain organisation has prone to use religion to overthrow other country.
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Harvey.... the Huaisheng mosque @ Guangzhou still exists today first built about 1300 years... that's about 1 century after Islam was founded.....
all religions have to be registered to the government to prevent cults and fundamentalism
Beautiful peaceful freedoms great anicent 🇨🇳❤️💐
I have lived in China for the past 20 years and have been attending church weekly in Shanghai, Shenzhen, Beijing and even there are mega churches.
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You can found many different religions and races of people in China.
What about Falun Gong? And what about political freedom?
flg是邪教，不是宗教
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That is not true you can practice religion in China but just not as free as other countries. Like the temple monks have to be regulated the only difference Chinese religion cannot participate in politics
Politics and religion should NOT mix as history has shown repeatedly that the results can be toxic.
I think people in China has religious freedom. It's only an issue when religion gets political.
"China has NO religious freedom." I'd say false. taught at a university in China, and lived there for many years.
since Chinese takover in HK, the HK Christian schools that have been there for decades can no longer pray at the school, and other things. not very religious freedom. and in mainland China, churches cannot minister in public or spread the gospel, and cannot to humanitarian aid, unless through the CCP. so there are some big restrictions, but yes, you can go to church.
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Prior to the Court's ruling (Engel v. Vitale ), it was not unusual for public schools to lead students in a Christian prayer at the start of the school day. But this didn't sit well with a group of predominantly Jewish families in Hyde Park, New York who believed the prayer violated their children's constitutional rights. The U.S. Supreme Court agreed, ruling 6-1 (Engel v. Vitale, 1962) that school-sponsored prayer violated the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
@@yunko9369 . yeah. i was referring to Christian schools, where for decades they prayed at the beginning of the day or class.
@@JalomMatia But the school in the US can’t no longer hold the pray too. How is that different between the US and HK?
@@yunko9369 private Christian school in the US can pray.
A fine example of narration without batting an eyelid . 😅
I think China adopted the concept and value of religious freedom since the Yuan dynasty. Some of the Mongol khans were Christians or Islamic.
Another issue is the difference in public perception. In the West people would call them being a part of a religion even if they don't ever attend to a church regularly. In China, people ONLY consider them being religous for actively and routinely practicing a religion. So to the Chinese, praying once or twice in a temple for good luck doesn't count as religious.
Nobody can stop you from doing yoga and meditation.
Burnes spoke politics, not facts.
Rubio lying again? Just another day in the office for little Rubio.
As an american expat who's been around, in my experience MANY things about China are an example for the world!
There are more mosque per muslim in China than in Malaysia, a Muslim country.
So you suppose that all these Muslims, Hindus, and lots of others are wandering around all by themselves with no spiritual existence at all ? You are not making any sense.
Let's learn something new: China is the only country that provides halal canteens on aircraft carriers.
ya. but thats likely because there arent a muslim state with an aircraft carriers, or we could just wait england turn
中国，对宗教的限制，基于法律，是存在的，但除此之外，信仰自由。
限制一:禁止邪教，禁止极端宗教。
限制二:禁止宗教组织向未成年人传教。但家长带领孩子参加宗教活动除外，因为不好追究。
限制三:禁止宗教组织在非宗教场所举行宗教活动，传教。
限制四:禁止借用宗教进行商业宣传。
等等
在中国任何宗教只要不去染指政治，不迫害教众，不诈骗钱财，政府是懒得管你的，爱信啥信啥，有管宗教的时间还不如多修几条路，多治理一片沙！
They don't understand how China policy works on religion... Like any private matters, you can do whatever you like privately or in your bedroom...
The minute you bring them out openly, then that is no, no... All different believers have to respect each other and cannot do things the way they personally think or their organization's believes that they can do or practise openly...
That's why security permissions are required from the authorities, so that such activities are legitimate and not in the form of superstition...
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When discussing about religion, westerners often overlooked what Chinese people do religiously but not necessarily classified as a religion and that is ancestor worship. The popularity of ancestor worship can be gauged by the people mountain people sea on visiting gravesites on Qingming festival. Chinese people also have an alter at home with pictures of their ancestors. And many pray on a regular basis. There’s no restrictions on having other religions in ancestor worship. You can be Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, and still have an alter with your ancestors tabernacle.
Religious is well-controlled to root out mega churches from profiting tonnes of money from the gullible followers.
Well the reality is more like restrictions rather than outright ban. For one thing, you can't create a new religion from scratch but you can only join a religion that existed historically. You are also not allowed to practice a religion until the age of 18. You are also not allowed to preach a religion in public spaces but only in specific sites such as a church or a mosque. Of course in practice there are a lot of gray zones and nobody cares what you do unless you start causing social harms. Afterall, modern China is an athiest state and it's fundamentally different from the US which is deeply religious. The American standard is certainly biased.
在中国宗教问题引发的冲突很少，不会因宗教问题发生摩擦甚至战争，比如巴以冲突 , 中国的文化宗教观是兼容并包的，不拘小节的，不会排斥外来宗教，会选择容纳然后汲取其有益的部分
I come from Israel lol
I think I can understand China fully because of the fact that religion can ruin a country. So if China "Wants" to even delete religion, it has more merits than demerits.
1: Religions are bad due to the fact they're oppressive. Iran is a perfect example of that. Israel is more like "We're Assholes and we have the rights to act like that because according to religion, we're "GOD'S" Son and no one can touch us or else..." Type of bullshit
2: When people from different religions state something about how a country should be or how to discuss it 100% percent they'll disagree and wars emerge.
3: in 1 I mentioned Iran. But Israel is also the same. It feels like I can't pick a side on this Palestine/Israel war because it goes against religion. In Israel people are very rude if you disrespect what's being said in the media. So oppression happens. I never felt more oppressed in my entire life. And I never wanted anything related to this war.
When China tries to actually do a good thing because they know how dangerous a religious country can be people are going against that. And that's pretty Fucked up in my opinion. China can Ban or not ban religion. Either way it won't matter since as you described, China is an open country when it comes to believing in religion or not. I think every country should be like that. Believe in something that will bring your demise in the end isn't recommended but as long it doesn't disrupt the peace in China it's allowed.
I've visited a number of religious sites in China (as a tourist) and have always seen lots of people worshiping (praying) openly in front of the thousands of others there.
another lousy low class clickbait title