@@123MondayTuesdaybecause tax isn’t compulsory.. You only have to pay tax if you consent 🤣 You’ve been brainwashed for decades upon decades to think you owe something you don’t.
This has been going on for so long now that you would think there would be a bigger push to educate drivers on how it works. Not that it excuses the Land Rover driver, but the Renault driver fully believes he is in the right.
Yeah, it's really stupid. And I bet people who don't understand merge and turn, then block people from doing things properly must wholeheartedly believe it's queue cutting or something. I'm sure the highway code specifies what queue cutting means--merge and turn isn't one of them
@@DeadpanCrypto I think people in the queue subconsciously feel badly done too because they wasted so much time waiting while someone has the cheek to pass them by using all the free space
I got forced of the road by a hgv this week because the driver was so against me merging in the slip road in the traffic. Luckilly, a 1 in a million, a copper was in the lane 3 or 4 cars back. We both got pulled over and he will be in court soon to explain his actions.
@@TheVanderfulLifea long vehicle like an hgv pivots around the rear wheels as it turns. This means that stopping alongside them may not be enough to get you out the way if you were near the front of them as the started to cut across.
@kryzondaan1855 Exactly this. It's really hard to imagine how someone can be 'forced off the road' by an HGV on a motorway entry situation, without them driving indecisively to the extreme. You can see a lorry from far away and estimate if getting ahead is plausible or keeping behind is better. And if you end up miscalculating by a little and you're next to the cab racing to get ahead genuinely trying to do it safe and not cut in close, most HGV drivers will let off the gas just a second to make it easier. Nearly everyone I see having problems are people who drive dangerously slow, refuse to adjust their speed, then rage when other drivers don't perform emergency braking to let them in. Some idiot tried to attack my business partner over that. We were going 95 in a 100 next to an easy 400 meter on ramp. Boomer pulls up next to him, sticks next to him, doesn't accelerate, doesn't brake, doesn't use the large gap ahead of us and behind us, keeps driving like that for the entire length of the ramp, then starts and trying to push in raging because he 'isn't let in'. 😆
This is very timely. Had a 20 minute long debate with my dad when he complained about people driving down the empty lane and then moving across at the closure. Well, the lane is only empty for them to do that because people aren't using all available road space and merging in turn at the closure as they should do..
In many places, any unoccupied lane will not stay that way for long. And even in Malaysia where I think driving standards are below average, people here actually know how to zipper merge.
@@TheOz91 Its possible theres a closure , then open, then closure.. so people just stay in the lane? There's quite a bit of roadworks on that road at the moment.
@@davefb It is possible BUT why does it happen when it's in a place where it only happens once? Besides, why would you do a closure open closure so close together? They would just close off the whole lane if the works need to happen close enough--it would be convenient to park heavy machinery there
How about those who choose to merge early as it causes less delays because of this happening at the lane closure? I’ve seen people almost hit the cones because they leave it too late. The ‘empty’ lane is also available to be used by the emergency services to get through quickly if required , if both lanes were solid with traffic this wouldn’t be the case.?
There needs to be a big campaign to help people understand merge-in-turn, or at the very least, instructional signs need to be put up telling drivers to use all space. Authorities have been absolutely shocking at informing the public of Highway Code misunderstandings, much like pedestrian priority at junctions. This is causing far too much confrontation and is leading to genuinely dangerous incidents.
Yes, I totally agree. And mostly because I drove for YEARS with the mindset of queueing "politely" and being miffed at people I thought were pushing-in.
I was on a road recently where they had signs every 200 yards saying 'use both lanes merge in turn X yards ahead' from 1000 yards before the lanes merged and people were still only using one lane. I just cruised past on my bike and merged as the lanes did. I just understand why people can't grasp how merge in turn works.
I take the lane that seems to have the fewest vehicles in it (just doing my part to use both lanes) and if one or a few want to shove their way in at the end I just let them. It’s rare for an entire queue to be comprised of massive egos. (Although it can happen, I guess.)
Feel very sorry for the children in that Renault. How many times has the driver (their parent?) put them in harms way because of their own out of control ego?
With all the problems we see with this kind of merge in turn situation, as has been said so many times, there really needs to be a massive publicity campaign with this. Plus those repeat signs at every such situation that read "When queuing use both lanes" followed by "Merge in turn" near the pinch point. Currently its only at a few such locations but should be standard signage. Unfortunately I don't think anything will be done about this issue and we'll still be discussing it and watching videos on this problem in 20 years time, just as we are now. And yet it's easily addressed.
@@tumbili5375 Add to that the recent changes to the HC. This all adds up to a massive publicity campaign. Sadly, I don't think it will ever happen and we'll just continue to muddle through.
Yes exactly. German drivers are excellent, both at using all the road space, then merging-in-turn at the lane closure point and at lane discipline. However, that excellence has not come about naturally. It's been manufactured, thanks to the German Government regularly running national advertising campaigns instructing German drivers how to do it.
Well in our country (Czech Republic) we have "zipper" rule for 20 years or so... and it took several years for most people to start to accept it and still from time to time you can find a) teachers, that block the closed lane hundreds of meters before the actual closure, quite high percentage of foreign truck drivers amongst those b) greedy guys that prefer to ride on the back of the car in front of them than to let a car from the other lane merge IMO it also depends if the driver is from the big city where lane merging is quite usual and permanent at lot of places, or if the driver is from countryside and not used to it.
@@andywilliams7323 I lived in Germany for five years from 1988 to 1993 but I think that campaign was after I left to immigrate to Canada in 93. I divide my time between the UK and Canada now.
The very sight of a merge in turn gives me anxiety now, nearly every time I use one correctly, I get threatened with violence. Thanks for the work you do.
The police in my area love dashcam footage of any driver actively blocking live lanes. 3 points £100 fine. As the road signs suggest, the lane closes in 400 yards. Use all available road space and get in the lane that offers the least resistance.
I was not aware that police would prosecute that one. I've always said I'd love to see the lane police block an unmarked police car to see what happened, but here you are reporting them. Excellent.
@michaelgurd7477 u less it's the police in one of Ashley's video where the police stopped someone who used the available and empty lane of a merge in turn and got upset because they'd jumped ahead of the cop car!!
@avalon7902 Absolute rubbish. If he wanted to queue, then he should have done so in the queuing lane. He chose to straddle two lanes, and it is an offence to obstruct the lawful passage of anyone on the road. It is perfectly legal to use the empty lane until the lane closes. You've obviously missed the whole point of Ashley posting the video, so I don't know why you are commenting here!!
All of this could be avoided if the cones merged both lanes into the centre at the merge point then directed the traffic into the appropriate lane. This would remove the perception of priority and should lead to better use of the lanes and merging in turn.
I understand your logic but that idea won’t work. As someone who works with traffic management every day it’s not practical. Perhaps in a rare instance if road space allows, but I’d be surprised if that option would be available often.
We've had lane closures on one the the main routes into Southampton recently. This kind of thing was commonplace on the first few days of the works. They did put out a load of signs saying 'USE BOTH LANES' and 'MERGE IN TURN' and it has calmed down a lot but there is still the single queue when there's still 800 yards of road left. The disappointing thing was so-called professional drivers in HGVs policing the road by driving straight down the middle.
Anyone who genuinely wants to see all of the available road space used, with vehicles merging in turn at the point where one of the lanes closes, should have no objection to vehicles 'blocking' the last part (or even a longer section) of an empty lane. When they do this and then keep pace with the vehicles in the other lane, the result is that the last section of both lanes is filled because the lane fills up behind them. The people who object most strongly to this action are ALWAYS the ones whose primary reason for using the empty lane is to 'queue jump' at the expense of others.
Was sat at the Redbridge causeway twice this week and had both situations... A lady in a mini livid with me in a larger transit trying to merge in turn after calmly driving at 20mph past a huge queue and surprisingly a BMW let me straight in today....
@@Soupdragonism That very much depends on the situation. Nowhere in the Highway Code does it say that drivers should drive all the way to the point where a lane ends before merging. In fact, both rules that mention 'merge in turn' say that drivers should obey road signs, and there will almost always be signs indicating that vehicles should move over long before a lane actually closes. It is often better to merge earlier to help keep traffic moving smoothly, but there are some drivers who will always drive right to the end and then force their way in, even if it gains them only a couple of car lanes. Other drivers will even continue past red X's that are over empty lanes.
Got to hand it to the folks in the cam car. They very sensibly kept their distance, drove sensibly and even their comments were intelligent and well spoken.
That's mental and happens a lot here in the UK with a lot of people that just do not understand basic highway code and definitely don't understand merge in turn at all.
My wife suffered a burst appendix a few years ago and it wasn't certain she'd survive. I was working on the other side of the country and, while I didn't drive recklessly to get home, I certainly didn't dawdle. On another occasion there was a possibility that an industrial project I was overseeing might have exploded. I was staying in a hotel 40 miles from the site and, once again, I wasn't hanging around on my way there. On that occasion, I actually flagged down a cop-car and they escorted me to the oil refinery where I was working. I absolutely accept that the vast majority of people who drive aggressively are simply being tools AND that there's never an excuse for driving recklessly but people who do stuff like straddling two lanes to prevent other cars passing should consider the possibility that the vehicle behind them IS making an urgent journey. If it turned out that the driver of that Land Rover was, for example, trying to get to a hospital after finding out that their child had been stabbed, would you want to hinder them or would you try to help them by letting them pass? Most people are courteous and helpful in person but stick us in cars and we tend to act like nobs.
Dangerous driving is never acceptable no matter how urgent the journey but I agree that if someone is aggressively tailgating you, it is best to move over and let them past at the first safe opportunity.
@@adamlea6339 Agreed. The reason I find this sort of behaviour so jarring is because, when I was on my way home to my wife, I had one small incident where I was on a wide A-road and the driver in front indicated right and slowed down to make a right turn into a side-road. I slowed to a stop behind them and, when it became apparent that there was a steady stream of oncoming traffic, I moved to pass on the left (which the road was easily wide enough to allow) and the driver in front - after stopping to make a right-turn - eased across to the left side of the road to prevent me from passing. Let's face it; that's an entirely spiteful manoeuvre. That driver is thinking "I'm being delayed by oncoming traffic so I'm going to make sure you're delayed too" It always makes me wonder if the people who do stuff like that WOULD act that way in other aspects of their life or whether it's something they only do when driving.
I dont think I've ever seen road rage this bad. If I was a oassenger in either of those cars, I would have been terrified. I feel sorry for the passengers in those cars, especially the children in the Black Renault who are being put mindlessly in danger for no reason
The worse part for me is that those children could actually see that behaviour as being how you behave on the roads and will quite possibly end up just as quick to road rage when they're driving later in life.
Rule 1 - use a speed only marginally higher than the queing traffic. Crawl if necessary. Rule 2 - as you gently roll up to the merge-in-turn point stop and wait for a fellow motorist to allow you to merge. Works for me. And encourages traffic behind me to stay in the 'empty' lane for longer, I find. Everyone's a winner.
Pretty much the way I do it too. I would also add: Rule 3: Don't try to pick the very last ultimate vehicle to merge with. Concede 2 or 3 vehicles "early". In this way, it demonstrates you are a non-aggressive / non-impatient driver and are willing for a bit of give and take. Rule 4: Give a courtesy Thanks to the driver behind you after merging Rule 5: Continue to drive sensibly after the merge, in order to demonstrate to other drivers around you that you are indeed a conscientious and courteous driver.
But if you have a mile of queuing traffic in one of two open lanes, and a mile of empty lane that no-one else wants to use, I see nothing wrong with a gentle cruise down that empty lane to, say, 200/400 yard point. The key is the gentle cruise, with enough time to react to any silly beggar in the queuing lane who gets upset.
I’d also add as you approach the back of the traffic move into the emptier of the two lanes. Stick to that lane once you are in it. Issues usually arise because of people changing lane at any point that isn’t the start of the traffic or the merging point.
No, useless drivers who don't know the rules of the road, especially twinned with self righteousness, if you wouldn't stand in front of someone on the pavement to stop them walking past you, don't stop in a live carriageway to stop a ton of metal!
Most of the time I see people drive like idiots because they don't want to wait at the lights or such. If only they understood queue jumping in means of poor lane discipline wouldn't save them significant time to their insignificant timely destination. This is dashcams are so useful and great to report drivers. Just wish there was more police employed to dealing with the increased dashcam reports coming to them
@@DM-ur8vccan't see what he won there apart from high blood pressure and stress from not controlling himself of the Renault driver 😂. The merge point was just ahead and yes even though the Renault was crawling forward probably to antagonise the range for correctly fully using the empty lane he could of just overtook them sensibly after the lane went to 2 lanes. Sadly too we don't know what sort of people are behind the wheel nowadays.
The most annoying thing for me is that while these idiots are totally focused on battling with each other they put other innocent people in danger, including their own passengers! (probably family members)
I'd really like to see Ashley drive or podcast with bad drivers, motorcyclist and other poor road users to try and get inside their heads and work out just what is going through their minds when they do things like this.
It never ceases to amaze me on how many drivers don't understand merge in turn, some people think it's queue-jumping, and those people you can guarantee haven't read the highway code since they've passed their test's.
It is the layout of the cones. One lane goes straight ahead interrupted, whilst the other lane tapers down to nothing, meaning this lane gets squashed into the other. Road users in the uninterrupted lane then think they have right of way over the tapered lane. This can lead to confrontation & argument. Maybe another reason drivers get into the uninterrupted lane early. The cones should taper both lanes into one, right in the centre of the road, before directing the traffic flow to the left or right as required.
@@wibbley1 Would be interesting to see that in action. Sounds like a good idea but I'd imagine it would actually cause more confrontation/slower traffic as everybody would feel they are in the right!
So you only ever flash your headlights to warn other drivers of your presence? Clinging to the highway code to excuse "having to be in front" syndrome is a great weakness on your part.
There is a very good reason why most people view it as 'queue jumping' - it's because that is exactly what many people use the empty lane for. This video is a perfect example. The Land Rover's driver didn't try and force their way past because they wanted all of the available space to be used, they tried to force their way past because they wanted to get in front of a few more vehicles.
As I've said before could we not have a new traffic sign that clearly states 'Merge in Turn' (not just an arrow sign) when there are permanent lanes merging into one so that when this occurs at road works perhaps merging in turn becomes less stressful.
It would only be clear to English speakers. We have those worded signs on permanent 'merge in turns' locally, but it doesn't deter the odd idiot from trying to block progress.
@@royfontaine5526 Mostly. There are around 1 million with zero literacy, and 7 million with limited literacy. There are also an unknown number for whom English is a second language, and who would have difficulty reading text from a roadside sign.
I see this ALL THE TIME. With all the roadworks which will never end there really ought to be a weekly public service announcement explaining merge in turn.
When Ashley mentioned this road is sometimes known as the Formby Bypass it made me think back to that comedian in decades gone by, George Formby. His catchphrase was "Turned out nice again, hasn't it?" Except that here on the Formby Bypass, it didn't turn out quite so nice!
As a wise man says "they'd cone it off if they didn't want you to use the space." Imagine how much more smoothly traffic would flow if people used the available space. Also, I think we should have signs which state "merge in turn" rather than just a symbol as it may make people think a little more..
I don't think it speeds up the process, because the same amount of people still have to merge together either way, what it does do is mitigate it's impact. For instance if you have a single que that is a kilometer long rather than a que set up in two lines that's only 500 meters long, the longer gue is more likely to cause problems for other roads that depend on the one that is blocked.
@@UnbeltedSundew having one lane of traffic is longer than having the same number of cars in two lanes. It may not be quicker, but a long line of traffic can potentially lead to tailbacks at junctions and or side roads.
@@UnbeltedSundew It will speed up the process because using all the available space means the length of the constriction is mimised, and the traffic going through the constriction is travelling slowest (because of the traffic density). The shorter the constriction, the quicker every driver gets through it and back up to normal speed.
@@adamlea6339 It doesn't speed up the process in of itself. Two lanes of 50 cars are not faster than 1 lane of 100 cars, because the same flow rate of cars is present e.g. 1 car a second - it would only be faster if both lanes were open and that would mean no need to merge. The only time it is quicker is when it backs up to other parts of the road and causes problems, and using all capacity would prevent this. The constriction is the traffic going down to 1 lane, or the lights, or whatever obstacle. It does not go anywhere!
The problem is caused by the prick in the Landrover who thinks that he is more special than everybody else and has no need to wait in line. The way he handled his vehicle could be considered as an attempt to GBH and he should be banned from driving for life. The Renault driver is merely trying to uphold the other driver to stick to his morals in vain.
The reason the land rover driver went up on to the grass verge is because a white car about 3 or 4 cars back from the black Renault was doing the same thing, trying to block the open lane!
I recently had an incident, where the M1 was closed heading northbound between J6-7 due to an accident. All vehicles were instructed to exit at J6 by police. There were cars queuing in Lane 1, 3 miles back at J5 to exit at J6. Lane 2 and 3 were flowing freely. I drove at around 20-30mph in Lane 2 for a solid 5 minutes, passing all the stationary cars in Lane 1. Suddenly, a skip lorry pulled out in front of me to cut me off, I slowed down to match his speed, mirror, shoulder check signal, manoeuvre into lane 3. To my amazement, the skip lorry moved into Lane 3 even though he is strictly forbidden from doing so. I slowed down in Lane 2, channeled Ashley's knowledge and stayed right back. I didn't pass the skip lorry even though I could have, since I had kids in the back. More drivers travelling in Lane 2 and 3 tried to pass and the skip lorry made some very dangerous manoeuvres. He was so busy blocking everyone, he hadn't noticed the police stationed at J6, half a mile ahead. When we got to the police at J6, they pulled over the lorry driver. I waved him goodbye and went on my merry way. Funnily enough, they were displaying a sign stating 'MERGE IN TURN'.
Even after what the land rover did, the Renault driver still takes the cake for biggest moron. Initiating in road rage that severe over their own ignorance whilst having their kids in the car? Absolutely inexcusable.
I never had an incident like this where I blocked a lane but I often used to have that kind of impotent rage seeing people go past in a merge in turn situation, and was a bit territorial when it came to letting cars past/going past cars at the merging point. Now I know the correct guidance I use all the space and thankfully have never had somebody block the lane. I'm so glad I found Ashley's channel which has been a huge help in showing me best practice and calming me down on the road, hopefully lessening the chance that I might end up being like either one of these two drivers.
@@bikeman123 "Merge in turn" didn't exist when I took my test. There should be some sort of public information when the Highway Code is updated that specifically details any additions/changes. Currently it is assumed you will reread the highway code, presumably every year. Some updates actually make the news such as the recent restating of the priority for pedestrians and cyclists, but some rules slip by and leave some drivers unaware of the changes. I would fully support retesting of every driver every 5 years to ensure everyone is at least aware of the rules.
@@bikeman123 It was a long time after I passed that I had any need to drive regularly and you only need to look at any dashcam compilation on youtube to see that are plenty of things that drivers 'should' know that they don't know or don't care to do.
@@rjk69The put cones for a reason at the of the lane, before the cones start blocking the lanes its legal open lane to use any drivers knwos it's not a shoulder it's a full legal lane
I just wonder if both those drivers sent their video of that incident to some of the "it was his fault, look at that , i was in right" dashcam channels...
I'm a Wirral bus driver. Driving down Woodchurch Road, left lane was closing ahead so all traffic was queueing in the right lane. I continued down the left lane as I had a passenger wanting to get off at the bus stop just before the lane closed. Had a van straddle both lanes in front of me to block the left lane. I shouted out the window to explain to him I was wanting to use the bus stop further down, he wouldn't clear the lane. So I had to sit behind him for 10mins til I could reach the bus stop. After I used the stop and got back into the right lane, 3 vehicles behind the van, he blocked the whole lane anyway because he was turning right at the lights. Complete lack of common sense. Needless to say it made me very late.
As Ashley commented, both drivers were in the wrong here. The Renault for blocking Lane 1 and the Land Rover for escalating the situation with it's multiple dangerous manouvres. Also, not condoning in any way the Land Rover driving into the coned off lane but they could have at least done so without knocking over any cones, seeing that there was plenty of space between the cones. Still doesn't excuse that manouvre though.
What people haven''t noticed is the white car further behind doing the exact same thing which is why the Land Rover ends up going over the grass verge.
he was about to drive down the left lane to merge which is correct, then I assume he stopped because of the idiot renault driver. the land rover however just carried on.
The only reason I don't use all of the available road space before merging is because I hate confrontation and I know there would be someone like the Renault trying to stop me from carrying out a perfectly acceptable manoeuvre.
I test drove a BMW the other day. the second I tried to merge in turn a car blocked me (possibly because of the type of car I was driving as several other cars had driven past no issue) then noone would let me in. has put me off merging in the future even though I knew I was in the right.
Exactly. It's a case of being in the right, but other morons taking exception to it and getting confrontational due to their misunderstanding. @@Dreadpirateflappy
I recently saw a sign before a Lane closure saying 'use both lanes and merge in turn', so maybe Councils are getting the message now! ALL such roadworks should have similar signage!
@@walkingthroughpixels your parent aggressively chasing after people at 100mph frequently because they cannot control their road rage, has an impact on you funnily enough. Are you the angry individual in the video? Lmao
I live in Ireland, on the motorway every day, the amount of people who sit in the right hand land even when there’s nothing to overtake is extremely annoying. I sit in the left lane not going over the speed limit and cruise past them, then they speed up to close the gap to insure I can’t move into the right lane to over take a lorry. Same here, both lanes can be used right up to the merge
Wonderful viewing. Have had it once where someone blocked me from driving in the hard shoulder despite signs imploring its use. They eventually got back over when they saw the queue of traffic they were causing to back up behind me.
I hate road rage so much. I’m at the point where someone could literally try and kill me on the road and I’d just let it be because there are so many nut jobs out there. Never worth the aggro imo
@@drahcirnevarc9152 it’s just easier to accept it and let go, even if it’s hard. I adopted the attitude after a couple of runnings with people who seemed a bit unhinged. Must admit, you get home a lot less stressed
@@xRoRox it also gets a lot easier once you've done it a couple of times, realise (the obvious) your **** hasn't shrunk/fallen off/your wife/husband hasn't left you, and it doesn't make you any less of a man/woman 🤣. Once you adopt that mindset, like you say it makes driving a lot less stressful (and provides far more entertainment when you get to watch idiots like this do their territorial caveman pissing contest 😁)
It's amazing to see that this so commonplace in the UK. When we drove in Dubai, people cut across one another all the time and drivers just accept it and don't get mad. I've actually learnt from this experience and realised, there's nothing to gain or lose if this happens to you here in the UK also.
Unfortunately this happens too often and 99.9% of the time it is people in high end cars or Chelsea tractors who need to be in front of everyone else at any cost, the Renault driver was wrong for going slow and should have kept up with traffic with a gap on his right to merge but was actively being bullied by mr too important to queue and slowed down to obviously annoy him/her
In a merge-in-turn situation, there are two queues which merge (in turn) at the merge point. Sometimes one is going stupidly slowly because it consists of people who don't understand merge-in-turn and think that there is just one queue, in their lane, which the people in the other lane need to petition to join. There is no obligation on the other queue to slow to match the speed of the ignorant people. (Though obviously they should not go at a dangerous speed, especially keeping in mind the existence of officious ignorant idiots like the Renault driver.) What you suggest that the Renault driver should have done, if intended to prevent such progress of the other queue, would still constitute deliberate blocking of the highway and it might lead to prosecution. They should have either joined (or rather stayed in) the queue of people who don't understand merge-in-turn, or proceeded in the other lane at an appropriate safe speed, which would have been significantly higher than the speed of the right-hand lane. The fact that they deliberately joined the lane to block it clinches the case -- they need points on their license. The RRover behaved appallingly once they had been riled up by the idiot. But what they were initially trying to do was reasonable, legal, and indeed what you are _supposed_ to do.
except what the Chelsea tractor was initially doing was the correct thing to do... you are supposed to use both lanes and merge. not just use one lane and sit in a queue. obv what he did after being wrongfully blocked was apalling.
I actually cannot believe what I've just watched.... such arrogance and "I'm more important than you because I'm driving an URBAN Land Rover Defender which I will use to bully you out of my way". Absolutely disgraceful actions from the Defender driver, and I hope his wife (?) in the passenger seat had words after that event was over. But, also, I must point out, shame on the Renault Megane Estate driver for not only causing an issue in the first place, but then endangering the lives of their children (?), and top it off, making them witness an argument between 2 ego-tastic sponge faces. I really don't know what these people are thinking...🤬
They look like two children at a park fighting over who gets to go down the slide first. Play nice and learn to wait your turn, you two.😉 It’s funny how we a lot of the lessons we are taught from a very young age don’t seem to be understood by a lot of adults-even adults with kids themselves.
I used to be like that Renault driver at the beginning, I always used to think people were queue jumping and not merging in turn so would “block” a lane. However I would never, ever purposely weave around the road to block someone. Conversely, I used to beep and swear at someone that would block me (yes, I was a very hypocritical driver) I am ashamed of how I behaved back then but I can honestly say I have changed. If someone blocks me, well their journey is obviously more important than mine. If someone is merging, go ahead, that is what it is there for and what the rules say The extreme behaviour of these two is quite a rare sight but unfortunately the territorial mindset of “this is my road and thou shall not pass” is an all too common sight and well done to your viewer for keeping their distance and more importantly keeping them in front when they wanted to go passed and keeping them easily visible
Yep, me too. I've been guilty of doing the lane block thing in the thinking that by stopping people queue jumping the queue would flow better. I was wrong. Use both lanes!
I was wondering whether the notification of the lane closed signs begin far too soon or perhaps has too much emphasis on it at a typical roadworks, and as soon as a driver sees them they take that as gospel that they have to move across even though the sign indicates the distance to the closure. Is this sign really necessary so far out from the merge point? I perhaps do understand it though from a safely point in that it will warn of stationary traffic in their lane ahead but other signs should be present like roadworks signs and well there is also the queues likely sign which in my mind would be safer to emphasize. But that also doesn't stop people from single lane queuing on merges with no road works.
Impatience; lack of knowledge; ego....... One of these can easily be dealt with through the Media - online and televised with some proper road signs to reinforce what is meant to occur. The others.... not so sure if there is an easy solution but Ashley's channel does at least get some of the education out there.
It all comes down to 1 fact here in this situation. Some people just cannot accept that someone behind them may end up in front of them. It is that simple. They should have a sign saying "USE BOTH LANES TO MERGE"
It's amazing how the red mist descends upon people when they are behind the wheel - usually over absolutely nothing in reality, pointlessly so. I myself, in my earlier days of driving used to get some road rage - that feeling of you being in the 'right' and someone has dared to do something wrong (or what you think is wrong) and then you are enraged and feel you must punish them or assert authority. It's absurd when you think about it. Nowadays I still feel the rage sometimes, but have learnt just to take a deep breath and let whatever it is go. You will still get a beep of the horn out of me - but nothing like the ludicrous display here, chasing people down, brake checking, driving really dangerously and screaming obscenities out of your window or asking for a fight. I've been on the receiving end of that twice this year - having done nothing really wrong in reality but annoyed a driver who didn't like being overtaken or beeped for cutting me up, only for them to go full tonto as if I've just committed murder. People really need some anger management as they fly off the handle over the littlest of things.
Driving can be a good training ground for our own emotional development! One thing that angers and upsets me is when I'm getting tailgated because it's so pointless and dangerous. (And no, I'm not going slow, and I'm not camping out in the passing lane. I'm talking about the situation where there is nowhere for me to go because there is a car in front of me.) I want to get to the place where I can remain completely calm and focusing where I need to focus (that is, mostly ahead and not behind). I'm working on it. I'm getting better at it.
If they see this they will justify what they did to themselves. Black car had their kids in. Wonder how they will drive later in life. What your parents do you do later.
people really are defensive over merge in turn. the one near me, Prince of Wales Road, is becoming nightmarish. It starts as a 2 lane 40mph, with a speed camera, then drops to 30mph before the merge. I'll be doing 40mph in the 2nd lane, and before the merge, the driver in the 1st lane will speed up to block the merge, while you're supposed to be slowing down for the reduced speed limit.
Don't suppose you know the one in Parkgate, Rotherham as you're heading up towards Rawmarsh? There's 2 lanes for a little stretch after the roundabout which merge to one just before a set of traffic lights. The problem is that nobody uses the second lane because of how scenarios like the above can develop so instead we have traffic queuing onto the roundabout and causing major jams every day.
@@J1mston Broad Street? Not a road I typically drive on, but have. Always seems to be busy no matter the time of day. Even street view doesn't show anyone using the 2nd lane. Looking at the roundabout markings, no lanes actually lead you onto using the 2nd lane?
@@DashCamSheffield It is a nightmare road that is always busy. As for coming onto that road, there are lanes leading to it. From Parkgate, Rotherham Road the 3rd lane leads onto that lane.
Aggressive and dangerous drivers like this should always be disqualified - Especially if you drive like this with kids in the car. Both drivers should not be in control of machines capable of so much destruction. Never escalate situations like this, just give up the space, it’ll cost you no time on your journey as this video proves. As Ashley said, you don’t own the road space, it’s to be shared.
It’s a live lane, end of story.. Otherwise the cones would be further back. People who try to be clever and antagonise may do well to remember that it could be someone like Kenny Noye driving the other vehicle..
I wish there was both more education around and more acceptance around using all of the road space and merge in turns. There's plenty of places where a proper merge in would make a world of difference but because of a lack of education and our culture with these things we make a lot harder than they need to be.
This needs maximum awareness, the police, AA, RAC, IAM, RoSPA and everyone who cares about the roads should do an awareness campaign solely on this issue. Reducing road rage should be a priority not an afterthought.
On the entry to roadworks on the A14 I noticed there were signs up "Use Both Lanes" and "Merge In Turn". It wasn't busy enough when I was there so I couldn't see if it was effective.
one thing i will say from this video, absolute shocking!! however I do think the Renault driver will seriously think twice about doing that again. And i hope the Land Rover driver takes a long hard look at himself. WOW
I think the Renault driver will do it again. He thinks he’s in the right to act like this. Stupid people act In a way that does not benefit them or anyone else
i know the land rover dude was wrong but the red mist came down. we all do things in the heat of the moment but i reckon the tough guy in the renault is more to blame. who do he think he is blocking people?
Look at lane 2, a long queue, look at lane 1, nice and empty..learn to use all of the available road space right up until the point of lane closure and then merge in turn, it’s not queue jumping, it’s smart driving..2 short queues is better than 1 long queue, it’s good for traffic flow as it gets twice the number of vehicles through at the same point and it also minimises disruption further back at junctions.
Sadly Ash I think your hope that they see the video and reflect on their behaviour is misplaced. Even if they see the video I suspect neither will feel they did anything wrong or point the finger of blame at each other, too much ego for anything else I suspect.
Self-appointed 'driving police' like the Renault driver should have their licenses taken off them for stuff like this. You don't use your car to provoke other drivers, under any circumstances.
Good to see some people can still afford to waste their fuel, rubber, brake pads and clutches in the middle of a cost of living crisis. Great comment from the passenger - "I'd leave him to it flower" - classic!
You just have to watch others drivers driving style and, like you say, wonder how they can afford to drive like that. I own a Mazda2 and frequently average in excess of 70mpg, yet on a Mazda2 group page that I follow, other drivers are typically averaging 32 - 48mpg 😯
@yvonq.9346 fair point, though I'm sure driving like that will cause unnecessary wear for all sorts of components, including in an automatic gearbox. Bw.
Personally I think you're wrong, the Renault driver were stopping people undertaking and causing the queue to stop further up the line. Why should people from way back in the queue undertake people that have been queued in the correct lane! I can't believe you can't see that???? The Renault driver deserves a medal for stopping queue jumpers, it were 2 lanes going into one. I'm really worried you can't see what is happening & you're blaming the Renault driver???
I've had a discussion about the whole use both lanes and merge in turn with my step-dad, his attitude is that he's well aware that you're supposed to use all lanes available, but if everyone is already only queuing in one, then just join the queue because you'll always wind up having someone road rage at you if you try to use the second lane and it's just not worth the trouble. While I understand it, I do feel it's pretty sad that as a society we just let the bullies have their own way.
The problem is 'who is the bully' in a situation where the vast majority of people have decided to adopt a non-rational behaviour? It can be argued that driving at high (or even low) speed down a 'free' lane when there is a queue and then forcing one's way in, is as much 'bullying' as it is to sit in the middle and not let other drivers past on a free lane.
Thats the same attitude as 'just wear a mask because everyone else is , it doesnt matter if it doesnt work" its the attitude of a sheep and its just about the most dangerous thing in todays society
@@walkingthroughpixels So you think that barging in at the last minute in a queue is not bullying, and you would never regard it as such? Looking forward to meeting you on the road.
@@dlevi67would you consider pedestrians waiting at a crossing as bullies because their presence forces drivers to let them cross? My analogy is such of the driver slowly driving down the free lane and then merging in turn. The vehicles at the pinch point should allow them in, as its a merge in turn. If they don't, then the vehicle isn't as much 'bullying' their way in as they are being bullied out
Ashley, am I correct in my understanding of this? :- where two lanes merge into one, drivers should wait until the last few yards where the lanes actually converge.
What if they changed the system, and initially the cones came in from both sides to funnel everyone into the middle. Then there isn't a 'correct' lane to leave empty. Would that help people understand it better?
Seen this A LOT! I always zip merge and they start raging! I'm not that one but wait until they meet the wrong person and they change their lives forever.
As a biker, I see a lot of this sort of thing, unfortunately. A lot of people don't seem to realise that they have to protect themselves and others WITHOUT causing a hazard or blocking the flow of traffic. Many times I have been using lane 2 to make some light progress as a break from filtering, and there will almost always be a blocker or 2 around - I've even had some people try to block me from merging, when it does nothing but slow them down
Hi Ashley, Little idea for a video. Liverpool switch Island, why is there so many crashes here? Thoughts? Has a new driver the idea of me going to switch Island is abit daunting.
The Renault was wrong, but you just *know* anyone who drives a custom shop Land Rover or Range Rover like that is going to be an utter tool of a human being. And a generally terrible driver on top of it.
This is like having two queues in the supermarket where one is empty and one is lined up blocking up all the aisles, and the people in the long line throw fruit at people who go to the empty till. It's utterly stupid.
Hi Ashley. I'm in total agreement with your thoughts on merge-in-turn but i don't want to get into a confrontation with idiots like that. I'd prefer to wimp out and join the queue.
@@AlioH89 Just wait for them to drive on then. There are lots of polite, decent drivers out there. Far more than the ends of the bell who insist on blocking those who actually know what to do.
Recent personal experience for me. Currently the A43 where it meets the M1 at J15A has roadworks like this. Heading towards Northampton it tends to get quite backed up, but I normally only use it outside of peak times so I’ve never had a problem. Last night I used it during rush hour and everyone was using lane 2, so I gently crawled down lane 1 in case of blockers like the Renault or people changing their mind but not checking their mirrors properly. Lane 1 was totally empty. Literally only me using it. The whole way down my heart rate was through the roof (my fitness watch genuinely said ‘Abnormal heart rate detected’!) just because of these kinds of people. Everything was fine in the end and someone let me in with no hassle, but all the way I was thinking “I’m doing the right thing, so why should I have to be the one feeling anxious?”
perhaps you must learn to not care about the 1 in a thousadnd nutters out there. Most people are normal. if one crazy driver gets upset at you he's the kind of guy who gets upset at averyone anyway so who cares about his opinion
What's funny is when there are roadworks and people are allowed to use both lanes and merge in turn at the end, they will queue in one lane. But when there's congestion on a motorway exit, everybody will try to jump the queue from lane 2, sometimes even coming to a stop on the main carriageway if nobody wants to let them in. The Brits are strange people.
ALL roadworks that require a merge in turn should have "merge in turn" and "use both lanes" signs, then those that choose not to and choose to queue in one lane have no excuse for petty blocking behaviour.
It is all down to the British phycology of queueing. We politely queue at bus stops (ok much different now as most seem to be non-British and just bundle on, leaving us British tutting) Queue at the bank, queue in the Post Office etc. So when it comes to road use, we do the same thing (again different for the multi-cultural society where it is a free-for-all, especially mopeds & scooters) I was never taught to merge-in-turn. I was taught to get into the correct lane (in roadworks, the open lane) in plenty of time. Roadworks themselves don't help. One lane ends, forcing drivers into the open lane, rather than both sides of the roads tapering in, so both lanes have to merge. There needs to be new Highways England signage, with pictograms, showing both lanes full of cars, right up to the single lane.
Renault driver was bad throughout, they really need a lesson or two on how merge in turn is supposed to work. Defender driver was in the right initially, but his behavior and aggressive driving completely let them down no excuse for that very poor. Really great actions by the cammer. Kept well clear, didn't get involved, loved the fact that they were completely untriggered by the two nutcases overtaking into the nice gap they had left.
I'm not sure the Defender (Aggressor?) was in the right initially. We don't get to see what was going on in the inside lane, and why the Aggressor took to the verge initially. But, I am sure that both of them deserve to be dealt with by the police. They were way out of line.
@@JakobusVdL Valid, I was assuming no impropriety before the video. Simply that he should ideally have been unimpeded up to the merge. His actions were disgraceful though.
That “ Landrover “ with the urban badge has got to be 100 grand as the base model is about 60 and I assume it’s like an overfinch Range Rover. Pimped up for people with lots of money and absolutely no taste. So he’s a total nutter behind the wheel. Nice to see him try a bit of off-roading though. Not many of them ever do
Alot of nubbers usually bloated gammons in 4x4s DO think they own the road & try to bully cause they think ive got a big car. I personally hate them aswell. I could buy two but would never as id be like everyone else. Its a sheeple car
Using your vehicle as a weapon or using it to threaten/intimidate other road users should be grounds for an instant driving ban.
The Defender Tax expired in February, please explain why it wasn't renewed!!
@@123MondayTuesdayprobably really expensive and the owner laments the price hike. And it’s happy to risk it and doesn’t mind being pulled over
Definitely…,
@123MondayTuesday do we know when this video was from could it have been taxed at the time ?
@@123MondayTuesdaybecause tax isn’t compulsory.. You only have to pay tax if you consent 🤣 You’ve been brainwashed for decades upon decades to think you owe something you don’t.
Stunning. And look at all that wasted road space - caused by the common misunderstanding of how merge in turn works
Maybe one day they will have screens teaching the queuing traffic the rules as they wait
Not so much stunning as pathetic
This has been going on for so long now that you would think there would be a bigger push to educate drivers on how it works. Not that it excuses the Land Rover driver, but the Renault driver fully believes he is in the right.
Yeah, it's really stupid. And I bet people who don't understand merge and turn, then block people from doing things properly must wholeheartedly believe it's queue cutting or something. I'm sure the highway code specifies what queue cutting means--merge and turn isn't one of them
@@DeadpanCrypto I think people in the queue subconsciously feel badly done too because they wasted so much time waiting while someone has the cheek to pass them by using all the free space
I got forced of the road by a hgv this week because the driver was so against me merging in the slip road in the traffic. Luckilly, a 1 in a million, a copper was in the lane 3 or 4 cars back. We both got pulled over and he will be in court soon to explain his actions.
Instant karma nice
Never understood this forced off the road thing everyone seems to mention - surely if things were getting that bad you'd just stop?
@@TheVanderfulLifea long vehicle like an hgv pivots around the rear wheels as it turns. This means that stopping alongside them may not be enough to get you out the way if you were near the front of them as the started to cut across.
@@TheVanderfulLife
Stop? Because entering a motorway at 1 kp/h is safe amirite?
@kryzondaan1855
Exactly this. It's really hard to imagine how someone can be 'forced off the road' by an HGV on a motorway entry situation, without them driving indecisively to the extreme. You can see a lorry from far away and estimate if getting ahead is plausible or keeping behind is better. And if you end up miscalculating by a little and you're next to the cab racing to get ahead genuinely trying to do it safe and not cut in close, most HGV drivers will let off the gas just a second to make it easier.
Nearly everyone I see having problems are people who drive dangerously slow, refuse to adjust their speed, then rage when other drivers don't perform emergency braking to let them in.
Some idiot tried to attack my business partner over that. We were going 95 in a 100 next to an easy 400 meter on ramp. Boomer pulls up next to him, sticks next to him, doesn't accelerate, doesn't brake, doesn't use the large gap ahead of us and behind us, keeps driving like that for the entire length of the ramp, then starts and trying to push in raging because he 'isn't let in'. 😆
The cammer did well for staying completely clear of it.
no he didn't
Yes, should receive at least an MBE.🤣
Came here to post this. Expertly allowed both cars in front of them to avoid getting involved.
Yes, cammer did do the right thing, just drop back and enjoy the idiot show and don't get involved, just let them get on with it.
@@123MondayTuesday Alright wee boy, time to grow up and get over the baseless contrarianism phase.
This is very timely. Had a 20 minute long debate with my dad when he complained about people driving down the empty lane and then moving across at the closure. Well, the lane is only empty for them to do that because people aren't using all available road space and merging in turn at the closure as they should do..
Yep. If people want to drive in one lane, why bother having two on that road?
In many places, any unoccupied lane will not stay that way for long. And even in Malaysia where I think driving standards are below average, people here actually know how to zipper merge.
@@TheOz91 Its possible theres a closure , then open, then closure.. so people just stay in the lane? There's quite a bit of roadworks on that road at the moment.
@@davefb It is possible BUT why does it happen when it's in a place where it only happens once? Besides, why would you do a closure open closure so close together? They would just close off the whole lane if the works need to happen close enough--it would be convenient to park heavy machinery there
How about those who choose to merge early as it causes less delays because of this happening at the lane closure? I’ve seen people almost hit the cones because they leave it too late. The ‘empty’ lane is also available to be used by the emergency services to get through quickly if required , if both lanes were solid with traffic this wouldn’t be the case.?
There needs to be a big campaign to help people understand merge-in-turn, or at the very least, instructional signs need to be put up telling drivers to use all space. Authorities have been absolutely shocking at informing the public of Highway Code misunderstandings, much like pedestrian priority at junctions. This is causing far too much confrontation and is leading to genuinely dangerous incidents.
Yes, I totally agree. And mostly because I drove for YEARS with the mindset of queueing "politely" and being miffed at people I thought were pushing-in.
They don’t care about hundreds of thousands of rapes by immigrants. They don’t care about that.
A simple sign with "use both lanes; merge in turn" is unambiguous. I don't get why it can't be used everywhere.
I was on a road recently where they had signs every 200 yards saying 'use both lanes merge in turn X yards ahead' from 1000 yards before the lanes merged and people were still only using one lane. I just cruised past on my bike and merged as the lanes did. I just understand why people can't grasp how merge in turn works.
I take the lane that seems to have the fewest vehicles in it (just doing my part to use both lanes) and if one or a few want to shove their way in at the end I just let them. It’s rare for an entire queue to be comprised of massive egos. (Although it can happen, I guess.)
Feel very sorry for the children in that Renault. How many times has the driver (their parent?) put them in harms way because of their own out of control ego?
Yes - and set a bad example for them (assuming they survive long enough to drive!)
@@richrudemeister brilliant!😂
Rubbish, look at the film again.
You probably own a Land Rover 😂
Found the Range Rover driver
Thank you, Ashley. You have made "Make it a non-event" into my personal mantra when driving.
For me it's become part of my every day life (even while not on the road)
With all the problems we see with this kind of merge in turn situation, as has been said so many times, there really needs to be a massive publicity campaign with this. Plus those repeat signs at every such situation that read "When queuing use both lanes" followed by "Merge in turn" near the pinch point. Currently its only at a few such locations but should be standard signage.
Unfortunately I don't think anything will be done about this issue and we'll still be discussing it and watching videos on this problem in 20 years time, just as we are now. And yet it's easily addressed.
Massive publicity campaign on staying left when not overtaking also
@@tumbili5375 Add to that the recent changes to the HC. This all adds up to a massive publicity campaign. Sadly, I don't think it will ever happen and we'll just continue to muddle through.
Yes exactly. German drivers are excellent, both at using all the road space, then merging-in-turn at the lane closure point and at lane discipline. However, that excellence has not come about naturally. It's been manufactured, thanks to the German Government regularly running national advertising campaigns instructing German drivers how to do it.
Well in our country (Czech Republic) we have "zipper" rule for 20 years or so... and it took several years for most people to start to accept it and still from time to time you can find a) teachers, that block the closed lane hundreds of meters before the actual closure, quite high percentage of foreign truck drivers amongst those b) greedy guys that prefer to ride on the back of the car in front of them than to let a car from the other lane merge
IMO it also depends if the driver is from the big city where lane merging is quite usual and permanent at lot of places, or if the driver is from countryside and not used to it.
@@andywilliams7323 I lived in Germany for five years from 1988 to 1993 but I think that campaign was after I left to immigrate to Canada in 93. I divide my time between the UK and Canada now.
The very sight of a merge in turn gives me anxiety now, nearly every time I use one correctly, I get threatened with violence. Thanks for the work you do.
The police in my area love dashcam footage of any driver actively blocking live lanes. 3 points £100 fine.
As the road signs suggest, the lane closes in 400 yards. Use all available road space and get in the lane that offers the least resistance.
I was not aware that police would prosecute that one. I've always said I'd love to see the lane police block an unmarked police car to see what happened, but here you are reporting them. Excellent.
Yes, report and then leave it up to the Police to deal with.
@michaelgurd7477 u less it's the police in one of Ashley's video where the police stopped someone who used the available and empty lane of a merge in turn and got upset because they'd jumped ahead of the cop car!!
He's not blocking. He's queing like every other law abiding road user.
@avalon7902 Absolute rubbish. If he wanted to queue, then he should have done so in the queuing lane. He chose to straddle two lanes, and it is an offence to obstruct the lawful passage of anyone on the road. It is perfectly legal to use the empty lane until the lane closes. You've obviously missed the whole point of Ashley posting the video, so I don't know why you are commenting here!!
All of this could be avoided if the cones merged both lanes into the centre at the merge point then directed the traffic into the appropriate lane. This would remove the perception of priority and should lead to better use of the lanes and merging in turn.
What a great idea, and not one I've ever heard suggested anywhere else.
it doesn't matter if a driver like the renault starts blocking people out of spite.
I understand your logic but that idea won’t work. As someone who works with traffic management every day it’s not practical. Perhaps in a rare instance if road space allows, but I’d be surprised if that option would be available often.
Just make every road single lane... Solved.
We've had lane closures on one the the main routes into Southampton recently. This kind of thing was commonplace on the first few days of the works. They did put out a load of signs saying 'USE BOTH LANES' and 'MERGE IN TURN' and it has calmed down a lot but there is still the single queue when there's still 800 yards of road left. The disappointing thing was so-called professional drivers in HGVs policing the road by driving straight down the middle.
Anyone who genuinely wants to see all of the available road space used, with vehicles merging in turn at the point where one of the lanes closes, should have no objection to vehicles 'blocking' the last part (or even a longer section) of an empty lane. When they do this and then keep pace with the vehicles in the other lane, the result is that the last section of both lanes is filled because the lane fills up behind them.
The people who object most strongly to this action are ALWAYS the ones whose primary reason for using the empty lane is to 'queue jump' at the expense of others.
Was sat at the Redbridge causeway twice this week and had both situations... A lady in a mini livid with me in a larger transit trying to merge in turn after calmly driving at 20mph past a huge queue and surprisingly a BMW let me straight in today....
@@obscureinception8302 "The others" are welcome to use both lanes. When all drivers use the lanes properly "queue jumping" isn't possible.
@@Soupdragonism
That very much depends on the situation.
Nowhere in the Highway Code does it say that drivers should drive all the way to the point where a lane ends before merging.
In fact, both rules that mention 'merge in turn' say that drivers should obey road signs, and there will almost always be signs indicating that vehicles should move over long before a lane actually closes.
It is often better to merge earlier to help keep traffic moving smoothly, but there are some drivers who will always drive right to the end and then force their way in, even if it gains them only a couple of car lanes.
Other drivers will even continue past red X's that are over empty lanes.
@@obscureinception8302OMG FFS
Got to hand it to the folks in the cam car. They very sensibly kept their distance, drove sensibly and even their comments were intelligent and well spoken.
Yes, the red car behind them was very sensible too.
That's mental and happens a lot here in the UK with a lot of people that just do not understand basic highway code and definitely don't understand merge in turn at all.
probably the only off road action that defender sees 😄
It's broken down now because of it.
Well that’s probably the one and only time that Defender will ever be offroad!😂
My wife suffered a burst appendix a few years ago and it wasn't certain she'd survive.
I was working on the other side of the country and, while I didn't drive recklessly to get home, I certainly didn't dawdle.
On another occasion there was a possibility that an industrial project I was overseeing might have exploded.
I was staying in a hotel 40 miles from the site and, once again, I wasn't hanging around on my way there.
On that occasion, I actually flagged down a cop-car and they escorted me to the oil refinery where I was working.
I absolutely accept that the vast majority of people who drive aggressively are simply being tools AND that there's never an excuse for driving recklessly but people who do stuff like straddling two lanes to prevent other cars passing should consider the possibility that the vehicle behind them IS making an urgent journey.
If it turned out that the driver of that Land Rover was, for example, trying to get to a hospital after finding out that their child had been stabbed, would you want to hinder them or would you try to help them by letting them pass?
Most people are courteous and helpful in person but stick us in cars and we tend to act like nobs.
Good point.
Dangerous driving is never acceptable no matter how urgent the journey but I agree that if someone is aggressively tailgating you, it is best to move over and let them past at the first safe opportunity.
@@adamlea6339 Agreed.
The reason I find this sort of behaviour so jarring is because, when I was on my way home to my wife, I had one small incident where I was on a wide A-road and the driver in front indicated right and slowed down to make a right turn into a side-road.
I slowed to a stop behind them and, when it became apparent that there was a steady stream of oncoming traffic, I moved to pass on the left (which the road was easily wide enough to allow) and the driver in front - after stopping to make a right-turn - eased across to the left side of the road to prevent me from passing.
Let's face it; that's an entirely spiteful manoeuvre.
That driver is thinking "I'm being delayed by oncoming traffic so I'm going to make sure you're delayed too"
It always makes me wonder if the people who do stuff like that WOULD act that way in other aspects of their life or whether it's something they only do when driving.
There are blockers who do things in spite because they hate queue jumpers and also they think they are right. In many cases they are wrong.
I dont think I've ever seen road rage this bad. If I was a oassenger in either of those cars, I would have been terrified. I feel sorry for the passengers in those cars, especially the children in the Black Renault who are being put mindlessly in danger for no reason
Sadly this is tame !
I sometimes wonder if the passenger is used to that sort of behaviour that they just think 'here we go again.'
The worse part for me is that those children could actually see that behaviour as being how you behave on the roads and will quite possibly end up just as quick to road rage when they're driving later in life.
Really? Ok
@@ShaimingLonghopefully they will be taught correctly and not by the bell end behind the wheel blocking a live lane
Rule 1 - use a speed only marginally higher than the queing traffic. Crawl if necessary. Rule 2 - as you gently roll up to the merge-in-turn point stop and wait for a fellow motorist to allow you to merge. Works for me. And encourages traffic behind me to stay in the 'empty' lane for longer, I find. Everyone's a winner.
Perfect. That's the way to do it
I do that too but I’ve still had idiots like the Renault pull out in front of me and do the hog two lanes manoeuvre
Pretty much the way I do it too. I would also add:
Rule 3: Don't try to pick the very last ultimate vehicle to merge with. Concede 2 or 3 vehicles "early". In this way, it demonstrates you are a
non-aggressive / non-impatient driver and are willing for a bit of give and take.
Rule 4: Give a courtesy Thanks to the driver behind you after merging
Rule 5: Continue to drive sensibly after the merge, in order to demonstrate to other drivers around you that you are indeed a conscientious and courteous driver.
But if you have a mile of queuing traffic in one of two open lanes, and a mile of empty lane that no-one else wants to use, I see nothing wrong with a gentle cruise down that empty lane to, say, 200/400 yard point. The key is the gentle cruise, with enough time to react to any silly beggar in the queuing lane who gets upset.
I’d also add as you approach the back of the traffic move into the emptier of the two lanes. Stick to that lane once you are in it.
Issues usually arise because of people changing lane at any point that isn’t the start of the traffic or the merging point.
The two biggest problems on our roads today: 1) Perception. How far did it get either of them? 2) Ego. Did either of them 'win'?
Self-righteousness must be near the top of the list too.
No, useless drivers who don't know the rules of the road, especially twinned with self righteousness, if you wouldn't stand in front of someone on the pavement to stop them walking past you, don't stop in a live carriageway to stop a ton of metal!
Most of the time I see people drive like idiots because they don't want to wait at the lights or such. If only they understood queue jumping in means of poor lane discipline wouldn't save them significant time to their insignificant timely destination. This is dashcams are so useful and great to report drivers. Just wish there was more police employed to dealing with the increased dashcam reports coming to them
@@DM-ur8vccan't see what he won there apart from high blood pressure and stress from not controlling himself of the Renault driver 😂. The merge point was just ahead and yes even though the Renault was crawling forward probably to antagonise the range for correctly fully using the empty lane he could of just overtook them sensibly after the lane went to 2 lanes. Sadly too we don't know what sort of people are behind the wheel nowadays.
@@zaink7037🤣
The most annoying thing for me is that while these idiots are totally focused on battling with each other they put other innocent people in danger, including their own passengers! (probably family members)
Most annoying thing for me is his missus. Shut up darling 😅
I don’t think anyone was in any danger
I'd really like to see Ashley drive or podcast with bad drivers, motorcyclist and other poor road users to try and get inside their heads and work out just what is going through their minds when they do things like this.
I'd watch THAT in a heartbeat!
It never ceases to amaze me on how many drivers don't understand merge in turn, some people think it's queue-jumping, and those people you can guarantee haven't read the highway code since they've passed their test's.
It is the layout of the cones. One lane goes straight ahead interrupted, whilst the other lane tapers down to nothing, meaning this lane gets squashed into the other. Road users in the uninterrupted lane then think they have right of way over the tapered lane. This can lead to confrontation & argument. Maybe another reason drivers get into the uninterrupted lane early.
The cones should taper both lanes into one, right in the centre of the road, before directing the traffic flow to the left or right as required.
@@wibbley1 Would be interesting to see that in action. Sounds like a good idea but I'd imagine it would actually cause more confrontation/slower traffic as everybody would feel they are in the right!
So you only ever flash your headlights to warn other drivers of your presence? Clinging to the highway code to excuse "having to be in front" syndrome is a great weakness on your part.
There is a very good reason why most people view it as 'queue jumping' - it's because that is exactly what many people use the empty lane for.
This video is a perfect example. The Land Rover's driver didn't try and force their way past because they wanted all of the available space to be used, they tried to force their way past because they wanted to get in front of a few more vehicles.
Reading the Highway Code doesn’t help with merge in turn! It’s clear as mud!
As I've said before could we not have a new traffic sign that clearly states 'Merge in Turn' (not just an arrow sign) when there are permanent lanes merging into one so that when this occurs at road works perhaps merging in turn becomes less stressful.
It would only be clear to English speakers. We have those worded signs on permanent 'merge in turns' locally, but it doesn't deter the odd idiot from trying to block progress.
@@chrispop99don’t we mostly read and speak English in England? 🤔
@@royfontaine5526 Mostly. There are around 1 million with zero literacy, and 7 million with limited literacy. There are also an unknown number for whom English is a second language, and who would have difficulty reading text from a roadside sign.
@@chrispop99 There are countries that use a pictograph that shows "use both lanes and merge in turn".
@@jaycee330 That would be perfect.
I see this ALL THE TIME. With all the roadworks which will never end there really ought to be a weekly public service announcement explaining merge in turn.
When Ashley mentioned this road is sometimes known as the Formby Bypass it made me think back to that comedian in decades gone by, George Formby. His catchphrase was "Turned out nice again, hasn't it?" Except that here on the Formby Bypass, it didn't turn out quite so nice!
👍👍😂😂....
Obviously, if you bypass George Formby, things can't turn out nice again...
@@dlevi67 Especially when I'm cleaning windows...
Total deekheads meet them on the roads everyday.merge in turn the zipper method needs to be made law😊
It's unusual for a car to be policing the lanes, it's usually HGV drivers that think they are the lane police in these situations.
They’re usually just holding a steady speed…
Most of the videos online are car drivers doing it, it's rare to see a Lorry driver doing it unless they are legitimately ensuring space to manoeuvre.
Correct, swinging the trailer across both lanes. Seen it MANY times
I certainly see a lot of wagons doing it, but car drivers are certainly not going down without a fight in the awards.
HGV's are on the clock , why should they let cnuts jump the queue and put them futher back?
Ultra infuriating when people block lanes like that.
Probably the only control they have in their grey lives
As a wise man says "they'd cone it off if they didn't want you to use the space."
Imagine how much more smoothly traffic would flow if people used the available space.
Also, I think we should have signs which state "merge in turn" rather than just a symbol as it may make people think a little more..
I don't think it speeds up the process, because the same amount of people still have to merge together either way, what it does do is mitigate it's impact. For instance if you have a single que that is a kilometer long rather than a que set up in two lines that's only 500 meters long, the longer gue is more likely to cause problems for other roads that depend on the one that is blocked.
@@UnbeltedSundew having one lane of traffic is longer than having the same number of cars in two lanes. It may not be quicker, but a long line of traffic can potentially lead to tailbacks at junctions and or side roads.
@@RikAindow Yeah that's what I was going for. Your explanation was much more clear.
@@UnbeltedSundew It will speed up the process because using all the available space means the length of the constriction is mimised, and the traffic going through the constriction is travelling slowest (because of the traffic density). The shorter the constriction, the quicker every driver gets through it and back up to normal speed.
@@adamlea6339 It doesn't speed up the process in of itself. Two lanes of 50 cars are not faster than 1 lane of 100 cars, because the same flow rate of cars is present e.g. 1 car a second - it would only be faster if both lanes were open and that would mean no need to merge. The only time it is quicker is when it backs up to other parts of the road and causes problems, and using all capacity would prevent this.
The constriction is the traffic going down to 1 lane, or the lights, or whatever obstacle. It does not go anywhere!
The problem is caused by the prick in the Landrover who thinks that he is more special than everybody else and has no need to wait in line. The way he handled his vehicle could be considered as an attempt to GBH and he should be banned from driving for life. The Renault driver is merely trying to uphold the other driver to stick to his morals in vain.
The reason the land rover driver went up on to the grass verge is because a white car about 3 or 4 cars back from the black Renault was doing the same thing, trying to block the open lane!
I recently had an incident, where the M1 was closed heading northbound between J6-7 due to an accident. All vehicles were instructed to exit at J6 by police. There were cars queuing in Lane 1, 3 miles back at J5 to exit at J6. Lane 2 and 3 were flowing freely. I drove at around 20-30mph in Lane 2 for a solid 5 minutes, passing all the stationary cars in Lane 1. Suddenly, a skip lorry pulled out in front of me to cut me off, I slowed down to match his speed, mirror, shoulder check signal, manoeuvre into lane 3. To my amazement, the skip lorry moved into Lane 3 even though he is strictly forbidden from doing so. I slowed down in Lane 2, channeled Ashley's knowledge and stayed right back. I didn't pass the skip lorry even though I could have, since I had kids in the back. More drivers travelling in Lane 2 and 3 tried to pass and the skip lorry made some very dangerous manoeuvres. He was so busy blocking everyone, he hadn't noticed the police stationed at J6, half a mile ahead. When we got to the police at J6, they pulled over the lorry driver. I waved him goodbye and went on my merry way. Funnily enough, they were displaying a sign stating 'MERGE IN TURN'.
The driver of the Land Rover needs prosecuting. The Renault driver needs educating.
Even after what the land rover did, the Renault driver still takes the cake for biggest moron. Initiating in road rage that severe over their own ignorance whilst having their kids in the car? Absolutely inexcusable.
I'm guessing when Ashley is talking about children in the car he's talking about the drivers 😂
Any person who blocks an active lane like this should be charged with careless driving.
0:53 Anyone who has "urban" on the front of their SUV is going to be trouble. It's the new "baby on board" sticker.
Not the mention that the word "urban" on a defender is pretty ironic, lol
I never had an incident like this where I blocked a lane but I often used to have that kind of impotent rage seeing people go past in a merge in turn situation, and was a bit territorial when it came to letting cars past/going past cars at the merging point. Now I know the correct guidance I use all the space and thankfully have never had somebody block the lane. I'm so glad I found Ashley's channel which has been a huge help in showing me best practice and calming me down on the road, hopefully lessening the chance that I might end up being like either one of these two drivers.
I'm surprised it took Ashey to tell you something that by holding driving licence you should know and there's 'often a merge in turn' sign.
@@bikeman123 "Merge in turn" didn't exist when I took my test. There should be some sort of public information when the Highway Code is updated that specifically details any additions/changes. Currently it is assumed you will reread the highway code, presumably every year. Some updates actually make the news such as the recent restating of the priority for pedestrians and cyclists, but some rules slip by and leave some drivers unaware of the changes. I would fully support retesting of every driver every 5 years to ensure everyone is at least aware of the rules.
@@bikeman123 It was a long time after I passed that I had any need to drive regularly and you only need to look at any dashcam compilation on youtube to see that are plenty of things that drivers 'should' know that they don't know or don't care to do.
@@rjk69The put cones for a reason at the of the lane, before the cones start blocking the lanes its legal open lane to use any drivers knwos it's not a shoulder it's a full legal lane
I just wonder if both those drivers sent their video of that incident to some of the "it was his fault, look at that , i was in right" dashcam channels...
I'm a Wirral bus driver. Driving down Woodchurch Road, left lane was closing ahead so all traffic was queueing in the right lane. I continued down the left lane as I had a passenger wanting to get off at the bus stop just before the lane closed. Had a van straddle both lanes in front of me to block the left lane. I shouted out the window to explain to him I was wanting to use the bus stop further down, he wouldn't clear the lane. So I had to sit behind him for 10mins til I could reach the bus stop. After I used the stop and got back into the right lane, 3 vehicles behind the van, he blocked the whole lane anyway because he was turning right at the lights. Complete lack of common sense. Needless to say it made me very late.
As Ashley commented, both drivers were in the wrong here. The Renault for blocking Lane 1 and the Land Rover for escalating the situation with it's multiple dangerous manouvres. Also, not condoning in any way the Land Rover driving into the coned off lane but they could have at least done so without knocking over any cones, seeing that there was plenty of space between the cones. Still doesn't excuse that manouvre though.
I guess knocking over the cone means they're a bad driver as well as a dangerous one 😉
The Renault escalated the situation.
I think he was doing the moose test.
What people haven''t noticed is the white car further behind doing the exact same thing which is why the Land Rover ends up going over the grass verge.
he was about to drive down the left lane to merge which is correct, then I assume he stopped because of the idiot renault driver. the land rover however just carried on.
The only reason I don't use all of the available road space before merging is because I hate confrontation and I know there would be someone like the Renault trying to stop me from carrying out a perfectly acceptable manoeuvre.
I test drove a BMW the other day. the second I tried to merge in turn a car blocked me (possibly because of the type of car I was driving as several other cars had driven past no issue) then noone would let me in. has put me off merging in the future even though I knew I was in the right.
Exactly. It's a case of being in the right, but other morons taking exception to it and getting confrontational due to their misunderstanding. @@Dreadpirateflappy
There's always that one person like to be an ass hole and block lane. Its worst if they do it on purpose and provoke other drivers.
I recently saw a sign before a Lane closure saying 'use both lanes and merge in turn', so maybe Councils are getting the message now! ALL such roadworks should have similar signage!
As someone whos parent had horrible road rage and witnessed it often in the car as a child, I have massive driving anxiety now as an adult.
Stop blaming your parents.
@@walkingthroughpixels your parent aggressively chasing after people at 100mph frequently because they cannot control their road rage, has an impact on you funnily enough. Are you the angry individual in the video? Lmao
@@walkingthroughpixelshaving anxiety and mental issues is the flavour of the month. They receive pats on the back and a little dopamine rush
@@lamebear6669 makes no difference. 16. 20. 32.
Who cares? The older, the sadder it is though.
Sorry to hear that, I have a similar past.
I live in Ireland, on the motorway every day, the amount of people who sit in the right hand land even when there’s nothing to overtake is extremely annoying.
I sit in the left lane not going over the speed limit and cruise past them, then they speed up to close the gap to insure I can’t move into the right lane to over take a lorry.
Same here, both lanes can be used right up to the merge
Excellent job by your viewer. She just holds back and grows the space. Good driving from her which is more than can be said for the other two!
Probably ensuring she gets the best camera view!
Wonderful viewing. Have had it once where someone blocked me from driving in the hard shoulder despite signs imploring its use. They eventually got back over when they saw the queue of traffic they were causing to back up behind me.
I hate road rage so much. I’m at the point where someone could literally try and kill me on the road and I’d just let it be because there are so many nut jobs out there. Never worth the aggro imo
Same here.
@@drahcirnevarc9152 it’s just easier to accept it and let go, even if it’s hard. I adopted the attitude after a couple of runnings with people who seemed a bit unhinged. Must admit, you get home a lot less stressed
Road rage starts when two idiots meet. If you don't react to other drivers they are unlikely to react to you.
@@xRoRox it also gets a lot easier once you've done it a couple of times, realise (the obvious) your **** hasn't shrunk/fallen off/your wife/husband hasn't left you, and it doesn't make you any less of a man/woman 🤣.
Once you adopt that mindset, like you say it makes driving a lot less stressful (and provides far more entertainment when you get to watch idiots like this do their territorial caveman pissing contest 😁)
It's amazing to see that this so commonplace in the UK. When we drove in Dubai, people cut across one another all the time and drivers just accept it and don't get mad. I've actually learnt from this experience and realised, there's nothing to gain or lose if this happens to you here in the UK also.
Unfortunately this happens too often and 99.9% of the time it is people in high end cars or Chelsea tractors who need to be in front of everyone else at any cost, the Renault driver was wrong for going slow and should have kept up with traffic with a gap on his right to merge but was actively being bullied by mr too important to queue and slowed down to obviously annoy him/her
In a merge-in-turn situation, there are two queues which merge (in turn) at the merge point. Sometimes one is going stupidly slowly because it consists of people who don't understand merge-in-turn and think that there is just one queue, in their lane, which the people in the other lane need to petition to join. There is no obligation on the other queue to slow to match the speed of the ignorant people. (Though obviously they should not go at a dangerous speed, especially keeping in mind the existence of officious ignorant idiots like the Renault driver.)
What you suggest that the Renault driver should have done, if intended to prevent such progress of the other queue, would still constitute deliberate blocking of the highway and it might lead to prosecution. They should have either joined (or rather stayed in) the queue of people who don't understand merge-in-turn, or proceeded in the other lane at an appropriate safe speed, which would have been significantly higher than the speed of the right-hand lane. The fact that they deliberately joined the lane to block it clinches the case -- they need points on their license.
The RRover behaved appallingly once they had been riled up by the idiot. But what they were initially trying to do was reasonable, legal, and indeed what you are _supposed_ to do.
except what the Chelsea tractor was initially doing was the correct thing to do... you are supposed to use both lanes and merge. not just use one lane and sit in a queue. obv what he did after being wrongfully blocked was apalling.
I actually cannot believe what I've just watched.... such arrogance and "I'm more important than you because I'm driving an URBAN Land Rover Defender which I will use to bully you out of my way". Absolutely disgraceful actions from the Defender driver, and I hope his wife (?) in the passenger seat had words after that event was over. But, also, I must point out, shame on the Renault Megane Estate driver for not only causing an issue in the first place, but then endangering the lives of their children (?), and top it off, making them witness an argument between 2 ego-tastic sponge faces. I really don't know what these people are thinking...🤬
They look like two children at a park fighting over who gets to go down the slide first. Play nice and learn to wait your turn, you two.😉
It’s funny how we a lot of the lessons we are taught from a very young age don’t seem to be understood by a lot of adults-even adults with kids themselves.
There are plenty of Peter Pans in the UK.
I would like thank people like this for keeping me awake with live entertainment on my long drives/journeys 😂
I used to be like that Renault driver at the beginning, I always used to think people were queue jumping and not merging in turn so would “block” a lane. However I would never, ever purposely weave around the road to block someone. Conversely, I used to beep and swear at someone that would block me (yes, I was a very hypocritical driver)
I am ashamed of how I behaved back then but I can honestly say I have changed. If someone blocks me, well their journey is obviously more important than mine. If someone is merging, go ahead, that is what it is there for and what the rules say
The extreme behaviour of these two is quite a rare sight but unfortunately the territorial mindset of “this is my road and thou shall not pass” is an all too common sight and well done to your viewer for keeping their distance and more importantly keeping them in front when they wanted to go passed and keeping them easily visible
Yep, me too. I've been guilty of doing the lane block thing in the thinking that by stopping people queue jumping the queue would flow better. I was wrong. Use both lanes!
I was wondering whether the notification of the lane closed signs begin far too soon or perhaps has too much emphasis on it at a typical roadworks, and as soon as a driver sees them they take that as gospel that they have to move across even though the sign indicates the distance to the closure. Is this sign really necessary so far out from the merge point? I perhaps do understand it though from a safely point in that it will warn of stationary traffic in their lane ahead but other signs should be present like roadworks signs and well there is also the queues likely sign which in my mind would be safer to emphasize. But that also doesn't stop people from single lane queuing on merges with no road works.
Impatience; lack of knowledge; ego....... One of these can easily be dealt with through the Media - online and televised with some proper road signs to reinforce what is meant to occur.
The others.... not so sure if there is an easy solution but Ashley's channel does at least get some of the education out there.
It all comes down to 1 fact here in this situation. Some people just cannot accept that someone behind them may end up in front of them. It is that simple. They should have a sign saying "USE BOTH LANES TO MERGE"
It's amazing how the red mist descends upon people when they are behind the wheel - usually over absolutely nothing in reality, pointlessly so.
I myself, in my earlier days of driving used to get some road rage - that feeling of you being in the 'right' and someone has dared to do something wrong (or what you think is wrong) and then you are enraged and feel you must punish them or assert authority. It's absurd when you think about it.
Nowadays I still feel the rage sometimes, but have learnt just to take a deep breath and let whatever it is go. You will still get a beep of the horn out of me - but nothing like the ludicrous display here, chasing people down, brake checking, driving really dangerously and screaming obscenities out of your window or asking for a fight. I've been on the receiving end of that twice this year - having done nothing really wrong in reality but annoyed a driver who didn't like being overtaken or beeped for cutting me up, only for them to go full tonto as if I've just committed murder.
People really need some anger management as they fly off the handle over the littlest of things.
Driving can be a good training ground for our own emotional development! One thing that angers and upsets me is when I'm getting tailgated because it's so pointless and dangerous. (And no, I'm not going slow, and I'm not camping out in the passing lane. I'm talking about the situation where there is nowhere for me to go because there is a car in front of me.) I want to get to the place where I can remain completely calm and focusing where I need to focus (that is, mostly ahead and not behind). I'm working on it. I'm getting better at it.
If they see this they will justify what they did to themselves. Black car had their kids in. Wonder how they will drive later in life. What your parents do you do later.
people really are defensive over merge in turn. the one near me, Prince of Wales Road, is becoming nightmarish. It starts as a 2 lane 40mph, with a speed camera, then drops to 30mph before the merge. I'll be doing 40mph in the 2nd lane, and before the merge, the driver in the 1st lane will speed up to block the merge, while you're supposed to be slowing down for the reduced speed limit.
Don't suppose you know the one in Parkgate, Rotherham as you're heading up towards Rawmarsh? There's 2 lanes for a little stretch after the roundabout which merge to one just before a set of traffic lights. The problem is that nobody uses the second lane because of how scenarios like the above can develop so instead we have traffic queuing onto the roundabout and causing major jams every day.
@@J1mston Broad Street? Not a road I typically drive on, but have. Always seems to be busy no matter the time of day. Even street view doesn't show anyone using the 2nd lane. Looking at the roundabout markings, no lanes actually lead you onto using the 2nd lane?
@@DashCamSheffield It is a nightmare road that is always busy. As for coming onto that road, there are lanes leading to it. From Parkgate, Rotherham Road the 3rd lane leads onto that lane.
Aggressive and dangerous drivers like this should always be disqualified - Especially if you drive like this with kids in the car.
Both drivers should not be in control of machines capable of so much destruction.
Never escalate situations like this, just give up the space, it’ll cost you no time on your journey as this video proves.
As Ashley said, you don’t own the road space, it’s to be shared.
I hope their insurers see this video too.
The land rover is uninsured and untaxed
@@deb61uk Ha! Might have known it!
It’s a live lane, end of story.. Otherwise the cones would be further back.
People who try to be clever and antagonise may do well to remember that it could be someone like Kenny Noye driving the other vehicle..
I wish there was both more education around and more acceptance around using all of the road space and merge in turns. There's plenty of places where a proper merge in would make a world of difference but because of a lack of education and our culture with these things we make a lot harder than they need to be.
Totally agree. Should be signs to say 'use both lanes and merge in turn'
This needs maximum awareness, the police, AA, RAC, IAM, RoSPA and everyone who cares about the roads should do an awareness campaign solely on this issue. Reducing road rage should be a priority not an afterthought.
Definite case of "my thingy is bigger than your thingy" going on there. Well done Cammer for keeping well out of it.
i don't think their "thingy"s have anything to do with it. it's more "you're an idiot" "no, you're an idiot".
@@SeanWithaFada Hi Sean, it's a metaphor :-) And yes, it's certainly about who is right and who is the idiot. Funny how in the end, both are idiots.
On the entry to roadworks on the A14 I noticed there were signs up "Use Both Lanes" and "Merge In Turn". It wasn't busy enough when I was there so I couldn't see if it was effective.
one thing i will say from this video, absolute shocking!! however I do think the Renault driver will seriously think twice about doing that again. And i hope the Land Rover driver takes a long hard look at himself. WOW
I think the Renault driver will do it again. He thinks he’s in the right to act like this. Stupid people act In a way that does not benefit them or anyone else
i know the land rover dude was wrong but the red mist came down. we all do things in the heat of the moment but i reckon the tough guy in the renault is more to blame. who do he think he is blocking people?
Both will learn nothing and will drive off believing they were in the right.
@@moxyuk1 that reno driver is gonna do it to the wrong person one day lol
Look at lane 2, a long queue, look at lane 1, nice and empty..learn to use all of the available road space right up until the point of lane closure and then merge in turn, it’s not queue jumping, it’s smart driving..2 short queues is better than 1 long queue, it’s good for traffic flow as it gets twice the number of vehicles through at the same point and it also minimises disruption further back at junctions.
So mr tulip we can agree that the Renault driver is a disgrace! (Can’t swear or might get a 24h ban again) 😂 . Some people a !
Sadly Ash I think your hope that they see the video and reflect on their behaviour is misplaced. Even if they see the video I suspect neither will feel they did anything wrong or point the finger of blame at each other, too much ego for anything else I suspect.
Self-appointed 'driving police' like the Renault driver should have their licenses taken off them for stuff like this. You don't use your car to provoke other drivers, under any circumstances.
Good to see some people can still afford to waste their fuel, rubber, brake pads and clutches in the middle of a cost of living crisis.
Great comment from the passenger - "I'd leave him to it flower" - classic!
For the vast majority of people there is no cost of living crisis. It's just a thing made up by the legacy media to sell papers.
You just have to watch others drivers driving style and, like you say, wonder how they can afford to drive like that.
I own a Mazda2 and frequently average in excess of 70mpg, yet on a Mazda2 group page that I follow, other drivers are typically averaging 32 - 48mpg 😯
@yvonq.9346 fair point, though I'm sure driving like that will cause unnecessary wear for all sorts of components, including in an automatic gearbox. Bw.
@@johnhall4917 petrol vs diesel might explain some of the difference? But I think your point stands :)
@MK-1973 Mine is a petrol. It occasionally nudges 80mpg if I hit every green light, enter roundabouts freely and the air temperature is warm.
Personally I think you're wrong, the Renault driver were stopping people undertaking and causing the queue to stop further up the line.
Why should people from way back in the queue undertake people that have been queued in the correct lane!
I can't believe you can't see that????
The Renault driver deserves a medal for stopping queue jumpers, it were 2 lanes going into one.
I'm really worried you can't see what is happening & you're blaming the Renault driver???
I've had a discussion about the whole use both lanes and merge in turn with my step-dad, his attitude is that he's well aware that you're supposed to use all lanes available, but if everyone is already only queuing in one, then just join the queue because you'll always wind up having someone road rage at you if you try to use the second lane and it's just not worth the trouble.
While I understand it, I do feel it's pretty sad that as a society we just let the bullies have their own way.
The problem is 'who is the bully' in a situation where the vast majority of people have decided to adopt a non-rational behaviour? It can be argued that driving at high (or even low) speed down a 'free' lane when there is a queue and then forcing one's way in, is as much 'bullying' as it is to sit in the middle and not let other drivers past on a free lane.
Thats the same attitude as 'just wear a mask because everyone else is , it doesnt matter if it doesnt work" its the attitude of a sheep and its just about the most dangerous thing in todays society
It could be argued but it would never win.
@@walkingthroughpixels So you think that barging in at the last minute in a queue is not bullying, and you would never regard it as such? Looking forward to meeting you on the road.
@@dlevi67would you consider pedestrians waiting at a crossing as bullies because their presence forces drivers to let them cross?
My analogy is such of the driver slowly driving down the free lane and then merging in turn. The vehicles at the pinch point should allow them in, as its a merge in turn. If they don't, then the vehicle isn't as much 'bullying' their way in as they are being bullied out
Ashley, am I correct in my understanding of this? :- where two lanes merge into one, drivers should wait until the last few yards where the lanes actually converge.
I was never anywhere near that bad but I had a similar attitude! Your videos snapped me out of it
Yeah. I watch his videos for the same reason. Stay safe!
What if they changed the system, and initially the cones came in from both sides to funnel everyone into the middle. Then there isn't a 'correct' lane to leave empty. Would that help people understand it better?
That's probably the best way to do it.
Drivers don't even get to know which lane is closed until after they've all merged into the middle.
No that wouldn't, they would still pick one lane to queue in and not let anybody from the other lane in.
driving is clearly a little too much for those guys. they should let their wives drive instead
Seen this A LOT! I always zip merge and they start raging!
I'm not that one but wait until they meet the wrong person and they change their lives forever.
I was just thinking to myself that the behavior was pathetic...and then Ashley said it 😂
As a biker, I see a lot of this sort of thing, unfortunately. A lot of people don't seem to realise that they have to protect themselves and others WITHOUT causing a hazard or blocking the flow of traffic. Many times I have been using lane 2 to make some light progress as a break from filtering, and there will almost always be a blocker or 2 around - I've even had some people try to block me from merging, when it does nothing but slow them down
They're obviously not old enough to drive. They should stick to playing with their Disney Pixar Cars!
Hi Ashley,
Little idea for a video. Liverpool switch Island, why is there so many crashes here? Thoughts?
Has a new driver the idea of me going to switch Island is abit daunting.
The Renault was wrong, but you just *know* anyone who drives a custom shop Land Rover or Range Rover like that is going to be an utter tool of a human being. And a generally terrible driver on top of it.
This is like having two queues in the supermarket where one is empty and one is lined up blocking up all the aisles, and the people in the long line throw fruit at people who go to the empty till. It's utterly stupid.
Hi Ashley. I'm in total agreement with your thoughts on merge-in-turn but i don't want to get into a confrontation with idiots like that. I'd prefer to wimp out and join the queue.
Same, I often don't use merge-in-turn properly because I'm nervous that I'll end up with someone being confrontational
@@AlioH89 Just wait for them to drive on then. There are lots of polite, decent drivers out there. Far more than the ends of the bell who insist on blocking those who actually know what to do.
Congratulations, you are part of the problem.
Recent personal experience for me. Currently the A43 where it meets the M1 at J15A has roadworks like this. Heading towards Northampton it tends to get quite backed up, but I normally only use it outside of peak times so I’ve never had a problem. Last night I used it during rush hour and everyone was using lane 2, so I gently crawled down lane 1 in case of blockers like the Renault or people changing their mind but not checking their mirrors properly. Lane 1 was totally empty. Literally only me using it. The whole way down my heart rate was through the roof (my fitness watch genuinely said ‘Abnormal heart rate detected’!) just because of these kinds of people. Everything was fine in the end and someone let me in with no hassle, but all the way I was thinking “I’m doing the right thing, so why should I have to be the one feeling anxious?”
perhaps you must learn to not care about the 1 in a thousadnd nutters out there. Most people are normal. if one crazy driver gets upset at you he's the kind of guy who gets upset at averyone anyway so who cares about his opinion
What's funny is when there are roadworks and people are allowed to use both lanes and merge in turn at the end, they will queue in one lane. But when there's congestion on a motorway exit, everybody will try to jump the queue from lane 2, sometimes even coming to a stop on the main carriageway if nobody wants to let them in. The Brits are strange people.
ALL roadworks that require a merge in turn should have "merge in turn" and "use both lanes" signs, then those that choose not to and choose to queue in one lane have no excuse for petty blocking behaviour.
We have large 'merge in turn' signs permanently at a point on the A354 here and people still believe they know better.
Great example to set to your children: pick a fight with a stranger and do your best to carry it on.
It is all down to the British phycology of queueing. We politely queue at bus stops (ok much different now as most seem to be non-British and just bundle on, leaving us British tutting)
Queue at the bank, queue in the Post Office etc. So when it comes to road use, we do the same thing (again different for the multi-cultural society where it is a free-for-all, especially mopeds & scooters)
I was never taught to merge-in-turn. I was taught to get into the correct lane (in roadworks, the open lane) in plenty of time.
Roadworks themselves don't help. One lane ends, forcing drivers into the open lane, rather than both sides of the roads tapering in, so both lanes have to merge.
There needs to be new Highways England signage, with pictograms, showing both lanes full of cars, right up to the single lane.
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Know the signage. In Wales they have physical drawings right up to the end. It also states USE BOTH LANES.
The traffic moves with the flow.
Renault driver was bad throughout, they really need a lesson or two on how merge in turn is supposed to work. Defender driver was in the right initially, but his behavior and aggressive driving completely let them down no excuse for that very poor. Really great actions by the cammer. Kept well clear, didn't get involved, loved the fact that they were completely untriggered by the two nutcases overtaking into the nice gap they had left.
I'm not sure the Defender (Aggressor?) was in the right initially. We don't get to see what was going on in the inside lane, and why the Aggressor took to the verge initially.
But, I am sure that both of them deserve to be dealt with by the police. They were way out of line.
@@JakobusVdL Valid, I was assuming no impropriety before the video. Simply that he should ideally have been unimpeded up to the merge. His actions were disgraceful though.
People with that mind set will never change, neither of them.
That “ Landrover “ with the urban badge has got to be 100 grand as the base model is about 60 and I assume it’s like an overfinch Range Rover. Pimped up for people with lots of money and absolutely no taste. So he’s a total nutter behind the wheel. Nice to see him try a bit of off-roading though. Not many of them ever do
People think that they can just go to the front instead of queueing up
The Renault driver definitely takes full responsibility for causing the situation, putting their kids at risk too
It takes two parties for something like this to happen!
Alot of nubbers usually bloated gammons in 4x4s DO think they own the road & try to bully cause they think ive got a big car. I personally hate them aswell. I could buy two but would never as id be like everyone else. Its a sheeple car