You should disclose the fact that you work for Founders Fund (Peter Thiel) when you make a video about a portfolio company of Founders Fund that was founded by Peter Thiel -- especially when the shiny claim that Palantir was used to find Bin Laden is just a rumor that has been disputed by people with knowledge on the matter.
As a US military operator I cannot say too much, but palantir 100% helped to catch bin laden! They were not the only thing, but they did help in the apprehension of osa bin laden
@@ChadAF_YT And I'm Jason Bourne. Don't come in here waving around who you are or aren't without proof. Going by your current occupation, age and the fact that you're a Palantir shareholder (which you conveniently chose not to tell us about), it's fair to assume you're just some random wannabe talking their book.
I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed this half hour Palantir UA-cam Ad! Strange to see it, given that I have YT Red. If it were, hypothetically speaking, an unbiased review of Palantir and its use in military/government projects, rather than an ad, we might've seen some negatives. So relieved we don't have to be burdened by anything that heavy!
Its a mediocre product infact showing how SQLServer and Oracle suck... i have seen decade old YT videos of palantir too and then they were better and less spiced than binladen cooked up story and were true to real examples... their example was good like how sanctioned regimes move around around heir ocean cargo ships and how bits of info on ship could track its forged movements... its basically a NoSQL non RDBMS non structured data mining tool which anyway got developed by others too thanks to coincident back-to-back-sudden deaths of Hi5, Orkut, MySpace at the hands of facebook because of its shift from obselete model of like 5mb hotmail and ~50mb gmail ... and facebook itself working as tech house not just dating etc site... this explosion of no-structured (chats, friends, friends of friends) data excelled new companies to fly past palantir.
Its a mediocre product infact showing how SQLServer and Oracle suck... i have seen decade old YT videos of palantir too and then they were better and less spiced than binladen cooked up story and were true to real examples... their example was good like how sanctioned regimes move around around heir ocean cargo ships and how bits of info on ship could track its forged movements... its basically a NoSQL non RDBMS non structured data mining tool which anyway got developed by others too thanks to coincident back-to-back-sudden deaths of Hi5, Orkut, MySpace at the hands of facebook because of its shift from obselete model of like 5mb hotmail and ~50mb gmail ... and facebook itself working as tech house not just dating etc site... this explosion of no-structured (chats, friends, friends of friends) data excelled new companies to fly past palantir.
"The App That Caught Bin Laden" 25:24 And then he admits it's 'actually hard to say for sure' Hey, but it's a great click-bait title! And the Palantir stock bros wil LOVE it!
@@adamk.7177 oh let's argue semantics, "Google Earth, the app that helped find ISIS.", This is clickbait at its absolute finest. "This Channel: The Channel that wasted 30 minutes of everyone's lives" you don't make a claim without supporting that claim unless you're clickbait. I mean I did rub 39 marathons in a row without a single rest, I'll expect your support when I release that video but I'm currently typing during #40. You won't believe what happened during Marathon 37! Click to find out more!
A small, but very important, correction: Alex Karp didn't "study under" Habermas. In academia, to "study under" a professor implies that you were the advisee of that professor. Because this relationship is similar to a master-apprentice system, the name of a student's mentor has a huge impact on that student's career after completing their degree and, if that advisor is famous, gives the advisee a great deal of credibility by association. For those unaware, Habermas is one of the most famous intellectuals of the 20th century, and his ideas are taught across the West (if not beyond) in undergrad and even high school courses. If you've ever heard of or studied the "public sphere," you've heard of or studied Habermas. But Habermas wasn't Karp's advisor, Karola Brede was. Technically, he did "study under" Habermas insofar as he worked with him and possibly took a course with him, but this relationship is completely different from an advisee-advisor relationship. It's like claiming you "worked under" Christopher Nolan because you had a single, inconsequential line in one of his movies, or that you're "related to" Brad Pitt because your second-cousin is married to his cousin's nephew, or that you "attended Harvard" because you went to a public lecture there. Technically it's true, but it implies something far beyond the reality of the situation. I suspect Karp worked with Habermas beyond one line, since he was faculty during Karp's time in grad school, but the gap between "studied under" and "worked with" is a massive one. Obviously Karp benefits tremendously from making this claim. Even having worked with Habermas in any capacity is something many scholars would kill for, and thus there's a lot of weight to having any degree of a working relationship with him for any point. That's what makes misrepresenting his relationship with Habermas both so powerful and so heinous, as there are very few people who have had the privilege to work with one of the greatest minds of a generation, and it takes away from their work and deserved credibility to claim that working with, or taking a class with, a professor is the same as apprenticing under that professor.
Since academia today is basically a career self-marketing profession today and not much of an academic pursuit any longer, I am not surprised that this guy trades off the name of the most famous prof at his university. That bit goes with the academic sleaze. And his name is Karp isn't there a CS guy named Richard Karp at Berkeley too??
I think its that thing that when you go through the macdonalds and place your order it detects that there is a car there. I'm not a scientist but this is what I believe
If they are finding IED's with it, I assume it was tracking cell phones and possibly listening in to flagged words, but It may have evolved into much more. I was hoping for some indication myself but this video ended up being about the business and not the product. I gave up after 20 minutes.
reading the company's wikipedia page is fun, here's what they seem to be doing : tracking people and mass surveillance, finding and deporting immigrants and their families, creating "ai" led autonomous drones for the military, spreading disinformation and disruptions to stop the "threat" of wikileaks (aka people revealing informations about the US's illegal activities)
You forgot to mention Palantir stolen i2 Inc code and settled out of court for millions of dollars for copyright infringement. It's an ad for Palantir so I don't think you would mention it
hey they didn't just do that, here's the wikipedia page for the company : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#Controversies really an enlightening read !
When I studied at uni, Palantir was at the jobs fairs. Their software... seemed not very useful. They were basically showing off how you could draw lines between the icons on your screen.
I'm late to the game here.. Bin Laden was killed in May 2011, well before Palantir was widely liked or used by the military. While it was in service, there were a lot of gripes, and it wasn't an enterprise tool like it is now. Nor was it cloud-based, which meant each user needed a dedicated laptop, which limited market penetration. I was using Palantir in 2010-ish and 2012 in Afg. Their product came on a Dell 6500 dual-HD laptop, which always crashed (in my exp). It wasn't popular because the UX wasn't intuitive and had to compete against many other analytical tools. At that point in the wars, too many tools were available, and analysts stuck with what they knew, making adopting new products and ideas harder. It was in 2015/2016 that Palantir revamped its entire product and hosted it in the cloud with a better UI, drastically improving the UX and leading to service/enterprise-wide adoption. They also sued the Army, which forced the military to reevaluate Palantir's merits. Luckily, Palanir was/is superior, as demonstrated against ISIS, and more and more people were using it. In other words, it's unlikely that Palantir played an outsized role in the intelligence community or the prosecution of UBL. Based on my recollection, the hunt for UBL was more likely done on various platforms than just one. Palantir might have been in the mix, but probably not as the lead. That said, it definitely played an outsize role in the killing of Bagdadi, the leader of ISIS, because it is the premier software tool to make sense of the battlefield today.
Incorrect. They first partnered with the government in 2010 via public records. As your information may not be entirely true because of the restrictions placed when working with the government. Lol
That 'could' is probably already an 'is being'. Fuck mass surveillance by governments (and cheers to Edward Snowden). I admit I haven't watched this video (yet), but the title suggests a pro-Palantir propaganda story. Note I use propaganda in the neutral sense of the word, with propaganda meaning just spreading information to the benefit of an entity such as a (political) organization, an individual and their goals or: a computer program (such as one that can be used to mass-surveille people). Meaning just because it's propaganda, it's not necessarily inaccurate or full of lies, just that it disseminates information to the benefit of somebody or something. I'm guessing this video does not contain any major inaccuracies or even outright lies, but again, judging from the title it sounds like it makes the existence and use of Palantir, in the hands of the government, more palatable to the masses (I hope I'm wrong). Regardless of whether that's the video's/video creator's intention, intention doesn't matter a bit. What matters is what people will take away from this video and I hope I'm wrong and it ain't "Yeah, maybe mass surveillance can be okay after all, just in some cases, I guess? Bin Laden was a really bad guy after all!" And that's how they get their foot in your door. Bin Laden's crimes, as horrible as they were, don't amount to even a drop in the bucket of poverty, murder, terror, exploitation, systemic oppression, intentional suffering and all other forms of violence caused by most governments in the world, regardless whether they're openly evil dictatorships or the so-called liberal democracies of the West (actually, the latter are even worse, speaking in honeyed tongues while supporting and collaborating with some of the world's most openly evil governments (example: Germany, a liberal, parliamentary "democracy" and its support for Erdogan and weapons deals with Saudi-Arabia). Also I hate how they took the name from Lord of the Rings. While Tolkien was conservative (and outright racist), I dunno if he had been down with mass-spying on people employing technology (which the rapid, unchecked spread of was something Tolkien was critical of, after all, what with how Sauron's armies represent industrialization and the destruction of England's beautiful countrysides) on a scale somebody like, say, Stalin could have only dreamt of (and had he been down wit it, well, fuck his view on the matter then).
It is what it is. Whatever the military has the police have. Whatever the police have the cartels and criminals have. Just live life and mind your business.....that's all we can do.
The photo at 17:50 is not of Licklider but of British actor Sir Michael Caine from the 1967 spy movie 'Billion Dollar Brain' playing the role of Harry Palmer.
Anyone who insists on being called "doctor" isn't the kind of person I want to know. I've worked with hundreds of PhDs with degrees like Plasma Physics from MIT, Nuclear Medicine from Stanford, etc. None of these brilliant people demanded to be called doctor... I worked with Dave for 2 years before I knew he had a PhD... These folks were brilliant and capable and let their accomplishments speak for themselves.
Bunch of palantir bagholders hyping this video in the comments, lol. Clickbait title and nothing ever mentioned about how palantir was uses to find osama.
Let's be honest: You could make any mundane, boring company seem exciting with this techy, pulsating track in the background. Throw in a bunch of stock clips of computer code flying by, rotating dolly shots, some drone footage et voila! Charmin toilet paper is exciting!
PLTR has a 60 PE. It will never make a lot of money. It will always have a limited customer base. Unless PLTR goes rogue, the US government will limit their client base.
If Palantir is so effective, then why wasn't it able to predict the Taliban taking over in Afghanistan and the killing of 13 American soldiers as the U.S. was desperately trying to flee Afghanistan after the Taliban takeover? It's like in chess: why take credit for taking out your adversary's rook or queen when you ended up losing the game?
Ohhhh, that makes complete sense now. Osama had found one of the Palantiri somewhere in the Middle-East, and hoping to be able to utilize the object's power to aid him, he made the mistake of using it. The moment he placed his hands upon the orb and gazed in, he was immediately under attack by a powerful force. He heard horrific sounds: Bush struggling to say "nuculur" mixed with sounds of country music and the dropping of bombs. None of it could compare to what he saw next. What saw him. Immediately from the darkness of the orb flashed a single horrific red eye, an eye that could only belong to that most heinous of infernal beings. The eye of Dick Cheney turns its burning gaze toward an Osama powerless to remove his hands from the looking glass at this point. *"III SSEEEEEE YYOUUUUUUU!"*. He franticly tried to relinquish the sphere but alas it was too late. The enemy knew, and the Black Riders would soon glide through the streets of Abottabad in search of the only thing they seemed to care about. The ring. The one terrorist ring to rule them all.
Hah, I did an IT contract gig for them years ago in Palo Alto. Trust me, they were a bunch of young math and computer algorithm nerds that could not actually build or run a secure IT infrastructure, or even build an ikea desk… even if their lives depended on it. That’s not a slight against computer scientists or mathematicians, they were just hyper focused on their theoretical research. I could not make heads nor tails of the equations and stuff I saw around the place, or their casual relationship to the practical technology that made their jobs function. The shire just had a mission… Think of a genius that knows their field of science, but daisy-chains surge protectors risking fires, plugs a random usb stick into their company laptop risking malware… but I had a feeling that those awkward kids working for an LOTR theme+bioshock culture company were up to something incredible…. My judgement on their data mining is still out, PThiel is pretty much a monster. Smart kids though.
The cool thing about the Palantir story for me is that two college roommates (I attended Stanford) who were on completely opposite ends of the spectrum politically still found value in their relationship, and how that value paid dividends years later. I recently watched some videos concerning Anduril's growing pains as a defense contractor. Hopefully the ties will begin to loosen and we can as a nation begin to utilize our talent more efficiently with respect to national defense.
That's how politics should be utilised and used if one party took over they will build a hell or will crumble into nothing we need both sometimes to oppose each other and sometimes to refine and polish the other ideas and fill the holes that will enivetably appear
@@___Anakin.Skywalker Well, if you're not rich but you go to a rich school, it's actually easier to afford because the school has plenty of money in their financial aid fund and they'll kick in the difference. This was 44 years ago, but after Pell Grants I believe I came out of pocket for about $700 my freshman year. It still holds true - my daughter graduated from Penn and we didn't pay much for her. On the other hand, my son went to Miami and that was an entirely different scenario
I just love the quality of production of your videos. Plus the quality of research and delivery of the information made me activate the notification bell for your channel. And your channel is one of 5 for which I did that 😊 Thank you and greetings from Germany ✌🏼
Now we're calling everything an 'algorithm'. Its like we looked into space and threw away terms like 'planet' and "sun" and now call everything 'gravity-masses'. Back in the day we'd call these 'Computer Programs' and even that was a little vague an not entire appropriate. Maybe a 'Software Suite'? 'Apps' were small programs like widgets with highly specific applications and limited configuration options.
Hi, Computer Scientist here, "algorithms" can be thought of as the methodologies used within computer programs to accomplish specific goals. In this case they developed methodologies at PayPal to detect fraud and those same methodologies might be useful for catching terrorists. In both cases you're generally looking for abnormal behavior. The entire AI craze right now centers around a single algorithm, Large Language Models, or LLMs.
Working in healthcare data, I get why most ppl and average investors don’t understand the company but the value and market they serve are painfully obvious to me. It really didn’t take much of a leap to understand. And once ppl get over that hurdle, being able to stomach a free discourse, government serving but civil liberty protecting persona is where the division comes from the most.
I dont need, nor do I want to, prove anything to strangers about Palantir. This product is not something you can afford. Very few people touch and explore Palantir's work. Informing you of their platform's abilities has no value or purpose, so why would I want to?@@clavo3352
AMERICA, AMERICANS!! What would Italians, Germans and Britons think if the French would claim "We are the only Europeans"? I don't understand why Unitedstadians think they are the only Americans??? America is a CONTINENT with 35 sovereign countries and over one billion people. Unitedstadians do not speak for the interests of all Americans! Haiti was already a state 100 years before the first USA city, Jamestown was founded! Haiti, Cuba, Argentina, Mexico, etc. are all American countries.... And have been American for over a hundred years more than the Unitedstadians! So this means that any Mexican is as American as any Argentinian... and vice versa! What do we call the people of United States??? In Latin America, they are called UNITEDSTADIANS! I love the United States, this is my country where I grew up and where I live.
You make these soulless tech-mercenaries, who develop the tools for mass-surveillance beyond anything that STASI could ever dream of, look like heroes. Are you affiliated to them or to the intelligence-industrial complex coincidentally?
Thank you so much for being partasin and not withholding information and leading people into your opinions. Was watching a video from “Modern MBA” about body cam history and I couldn’t even watch it.
"Not being partisan" Did he even mention what opponents of palantir are saying? Seems like he very much chose a side and presented it as the objective truth.
I just got done watching a Demo on their channel from a few months ago... I am absolutely speechless... Part of my job in the Army was maintaining the FBCB2 or BFT (Blue Force Tracker) system, basically the system that allows brass to see whats going on down range in real time, imagine Age of Empires, and I thought that was insane at the time.... This however.... I got goosebumps immediately, and by the end I was ready to vomit. The fact the military doesnt have this deployed with every single branch and using it to its fullest capability is absolutely insane, to the point of being damn near treasonous........
Palantir can get Osama who is a thousand miles away but couldn't find CDNG's El Mencho who is your next door neighbor. Something just don't cut it with me.
Congratulations to the owners for choosing the outright most ominous, dangerous thing from Tolkien's mythos as the name of their company. One that turned a strong-willed wizard (Saruman the White) into a henchman of Sauron. I guess at least they are not fomenting illusions about where this all leads?...
There are many types of terrorism that palantir will never help to solve: the terror of Assad, the terror of pogroms under Netanyahu, the terror of concentration camps under Xi, the terror of juntas committing genocide. When there is no will. There is no way.
Thank you for putting out a historically accurate summary of the company without the hype or obvious toxic bias in either direction. Well done sir. The shire accepts your membership application.
Pssst, nah. Just take an exciting music track, something techy, futuristic, heart-pounding. Then use clips of the founders making claims and tell the story as 'fact'. Anything the founders say, take it at face value. Sure it's a total black-box multi billion dollar publicly traded company where it's in the founders' interest for the market to hype the value, allowing the founders to cash-out without having to deliver on these promises... Unless there are tons of companies who renew their contracts with Palantir, investors would be smart to stay on the sidelines. Always ask yourself if you're the sucker in this 'investment' equation.
@@RemiStardust yor comment feels like if you took my comment and asked ChatGPT to give a counter answer, which is why it makes nu actual sense. Learn to write your own comments, and if that was your own, pls next time read the comment you are replying to.
@@oliver-nation4377 Oh sadness. Are you a Palantir investor who finds it offensive when sb points out the complete 'trust-me' nature of the 'investment'? If so, why do you care about sources in this faux documentary promo piece? It's a technically well-done piece. Most people will think it's good and Palantir bulls will love it. Only the few serious people, especially those who've lost money in the stock market before, find this a dubious video.
@@RemiStardust first of all. Stop using ChatGPT. Second, the reason sources matter is because you should never "state" anything you are unable to actually proove. And by thst you also need to cross check your sources.
Thanks for this video. I currently own a little over 10k shares of this company since I had to sell some to renovate my house. Best investment so far after Apple.
I'm glad you exist because I was worried that the tech industry wasn't killy enough. Good to know someone is still flying the flag for the military industrial complex. [sarcasm]
Watched whole video and conclusion was that we can not know how Palantir helped to track down Bin Laden. Whole video is basically an engaging history about Palantir. A time sink and a time waste, generating watch time for UA-cam
idk, but i have a really weird feeling, because i still have no real idea of what palantir is doing. They are connecting databases and are able to visualize the data, such that humans are able to more easily spot patterns etc. But that is not really that complex right? In which way is palantir superior to its competitors? I've seen multiple videos about palantir, but still no video that really gives me any significant information about them from a technical standpoint. How can you just go to Boeing, "take a look" at their database and magically solve most of their problems?
We never needed a app to catch him. The ppl in Afghanistan pointed a the mountain he was staying in the other side where they pointed all the time! You ask where the Taliban was they pointed to that area. When I came home and they caught him. I was like that’s where the ppl was pointing all the time we just wasn’t listening period
Studying law with dyslexia is hella impressive tbh. I suffer from severe ADHD and I can barely bind my own shoes without medication. lmao (It´s not that bad actually)
@@oliver-nation4377it's lacks not lags* and he's not a journalist. He doesn't have to give sources if he wants to make videos for entertainment purposes. Also, that's a bot you just replied to.
@@AfricanLionBat It is sad that you claim that he does not need to provide proof. The only time you do not need proof is about common knoledge. It is important to provide sources so he cannot spread misinformation, which is very common in undevelopped countries. (USA, or more eastern countries)
What a long-winded video. I’m 3/4 way through and still don’t know what it does. Then I start reading the comments and now it makes sense. Time for a big thumbs down and a blocking of this channel. Thanks for screwing with users.
Those who believe that an app played a significant role in capturing Bin Laden are gullible people. It was Shakeel Afridi, the Pakistani doctor, who assisted the US in the operation, not a weak American app that would be of no use to the Russians.
It's basically a documentary about the company instead of telling us what the app does and how it's used to catch osama. Waste 30 mins on a company history.
Since Palantir is worth 32 Billion dollars, i think they are doing good. But i like Boeing and Lockheed martin more then Palantir. i would rather work for Boeing then Palantir.
You should disclose the fact that you work for Founders Fund (Peter Thiel) when you make a video about a portfolio company of Founders Fund that was founded by Peter Thiel -- especially when the shiny claim that Palantir was used to find Bin Laden is just a rumor that has been disputed by people with knowledge on the matter.
John,do you actually works for Mr Thiel?
@@kingstonstreet3726 He does. He disclosed it in the video posted on July 25.
Peter likely employs a decent number of content creators in one way or another. He's the Kaiser Sose' of the internet lol.
As a US military operator I cannot say too much, but palantir 100% helped to catch bin laden! They were not the only thing, but they did help in the apprehension of osa bin laden
@@ChadAF_YT And I'm Jason Bourne. Don't come in here waving around who you are or aren't without proof. Going by your current occupation, age and the fact that you're a Palantir shareholder (which you conveniently chose not to tell us about), it's fair to assume you're just some random wannabe talking their book.
You should add a disclaimer in these videos about your role at Founders Fund, John
What’s his role?
@@evdm7482 He's an EIC there. If you're making content about your portfolio companies you should put a disclaimer up front or at the end :)
@@marciplan or both
@@DiosanXaquerry To John's credit, though, he started doing that now :)
This is against the law, not disclosing info like this
I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed this half hour Palantir UA-cam Ad! Strange to see it, given that I have YT Red. If it were, hypothetically speaking, an unbiased review of Palantir and its use in military/government projects, rather than an ad, we might've seen some negatives. So relieved we don't have to be burdened by anything that heavy!
Here's a negative - they've never been in the black
@@joelw2413 Why . I live in East Africa and the US democracy spreading has been fucking us in Sudan Congo Tigray and Somalia
Are you sure it is Us democracy, or European French democracy, or Ruzzianazi 'democracy?@@ericmunene8521
it’s called youtube premium not red
it hasn’t been called youtube red for like 5 years
Its a mediocre product infact showing how SQLServer and Oracle suck... i have seen decade old YT videos of palantir too and then they were better and less spiced than binladen cooked up story and were true to real examples... their example was good like how sanctioned regimes move around around heir ocean cargo ships and how bits of info on ship could track its forged movements... its basically a NoSQL non RDBMS non structured data mining tool which anyway got developed by others too thanks to coincident back-to-back-sudden deaths of Hi5, Orkut, MySpace at the hands of facebook because of its shift from obselete model of like 5mb hotmail and ~50mb gmail ... and facebook itself working as tech house not just dating etc site... this explosion of no-structured (chats, friends, friends of friends) data excelled new companies to fly past palantir.
It's a legal requirement to state when it's sponsored content. Food for thought
Palantir: The app that caught Bin Laden 😂😂😂
This guy must own stock in the company 😂
Apparently he does indeed have an undisclosed interest. See comment from @marciplan.
he is an EIC for Founders Fund which is owned by Thiel i believe
Its a mediocre product infact showing how SQLServer and Oracle suck... i have seen decade old YT videos of palantir too and then they were better and less spiced than binladen cooked up story and were true to real examples... their example was good like how sanctioned regimes move around around heir ocean cargo ships and how bits of info on ship could track its forged movements... its basically a NoSQL non RDBMS non structured data mining tool which anyway got developed by others too thanks to coincident back-to-back-sudden deaths of Hi5, Orkut, MySpace at the hands of facebook because of its shift from obselete model of like 5mb hotmail and ~50mb gmail ... and facebook itself working as tech house not just dating etc site... this explosion of no-structured (chats, friends, friends of friends) data excelled new companies to fly past palantir.
"The App That Caught Bin Laden"
25:24 And then he admits it's 'actually hard to say for sure'
Hey, but it's a great click-bait title! And the Palantir stock bros wil LOVE it!
Seriously! 😳 Thanks, it just saved me 10 minutes of time.
This was what I was going to write if you hadn’t . Pure click and bait!
27 minutes in and in missing the part where it was actually used. Well played. Cant wait for "Google Earth, the app that helped kill ISIS"
@@adamk.7177 oh let's argue semantics, "Google Earth, the app that helped find ISIS.", This is clickbait at its absolute finest. "This Channel: The Channel that wasted 30 minutes of everyone's lives" you don't make a claim without supporting that claim unless you're clickbait. I mean I did rub 39 marathons in a row without a single rest, I'll expect your support when I release that video but I'm currently typing during #40.
You won't believe what happened during Marathon 37! Click to find out more!
Palintar is used by the CIA like Oceangate used NASA.
Oh dang, Isis ends at Division across the st from Rainbow grocery in SF. If it wasn’t for Jeff I woulda never known about google
Thank you, saved me time
They knew Bin Laden was in Iran and they shipped into Pakistan for the kill. @@floppathebased1492
A small, but very important, correction: Alex Karp didn't "study under" Habermas. In academia, to "study under" a professor implies that you were the advisee of that professor. Because this relationship is similar to a master-apprentice system, the name of a student's mentor has a huge impact on that student's career after completing their degree and, if that advisor is famous, gives the advisee a great deal of credibility by association. For those unaware, Habermas is one of the most famous intellectuals of the 20th century, and his ideas are taught across the West (if not beyond) in undergrad and even high school courses. If you've ever heard of or studied the "public sphere," you've heard of or studied Habermas.
But Habermas wasn't Karp's advisor, Karola Brede was. Technically, he did "study under" Habermas insofar as he worked with him and possibly took a course with him, but this relationship is completely different from an advisee-advisor relationship. It's like claiming you "worked under" Christopher Nolan because you had a single, inconsequential line in one of his movies, or that you're "related to" Brad Pitt because your second-cousin is married to his cousin's nephew, or that you "attended Harvard" because you went to a public lecture there. Technically it's true, but it implies something far beyond the reality of the situation. I suspect Karp worked with Habermas beyond one line, since he was faculty during Karp's time in grad school, but the gap between "studied under" and "worked with" is a massive one.
Obviously Karp benefits tremendously from making this claim. Even having worked with Habermas in any capacity is something many scholars would kill for, and thus there's a lot of weight to having any degree of a working relationship with him for any point. That's what makes misrepresenting his relationship with Habermas both so powerful and so heinous, as there are very few people who have had the privilege to work with one of the greatest minds of a generation, and it takes away from their work and deserved credibility to claim that working with, or taking a class with, a professor is the same as apprenticing under that professor.
Since academia today is basically a career self-marketing profession today and not much of an academic pursuit any longer, I am not surprised that this guy trades off the name of the most famous prof at his university. That bit goes with the academic sleaze. And his name is Karp isn't there a CS guy named Richard Karp at Berkeley too??
I thought you said one small correction 😂
@@ragetobe For an academic, that was small
@@Zaryn9000 He thinks he is an academic, he didn't even read what he wrote, most of it makes zero sense and the rest makes him look stupid.
I watched the whole thing and still have no idea what the software acutally is.
I think its that thing that when you go through the macdonalds and place your order it detects that there is a car there. I'm not a scientist but this is what I believe
Data analytics. Data integration
Intended
If they are finding IED's with it, I assume it was tracking cell phones and possibly listening in to flagged words, but It may have evolved into much more. I was hoping for some indication myself but this video ended up being about the business and not the product. I gave up after 20 minutes.
reading the company's wikipedia page is fun, here's what they seem to be doing : tracking people and mass surveillance, finding and deporting immigrants and their families, creating "ai" led autonomous drones for the military, spreading disinformation and disruptions to stop the "threat" of wikileaks (aka people revealing informations about the US's illegal activities)
You forgot to mention Palantir stolen i2 Inc code and settled out of court for millions of dollars for copyright infringement. It's an ad for Palantir so I don't think you would mention it
hey they didn't just do that, here's the wikipedia page for the company :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies#Controversies
really an enlightening read !
When I studied at uni, Palantir was at the jobs fairs. Their software... seemed not very useful. They were basically showing off how you could draw lines between the icons on your screen.
And now you're regretting not taking them seriously.
@@magnetsec Why would I regret that?
lol boy were you wrong, that thought did not age well
I'm late to the game here..
Bin Laden was killed in May 2011, well before Palantir was widely liked or used by the military. While it was in service, there were a lot of gripes, and it wasn't an enterprise tool like it is now. Nor was it cloud-based, which meant each user needed a dedicated laptop, which limited market penetration.
I was using Palantir in 2010-ish and 2012 in Afg. Their product came on a Dell 6500 dual-HD laptop, which always crashed (in my exp). It wasn't popular because the UX wasn't intuitive and had to compete against many other analytical tools. At that point in the wars, too many tools were available, and analysts stuck with what they knew, making adopting new products and ideas harder.
It was in 2015/2016 that Palantir revamped its entire product and hosted it in the cloud with a better UI, drastically improving the UX and leading to service/enterprise-wide adoption. They also sued the Army, which forced the military to reevaluate Palantir's merits. Luckily, Palanir was/is superior, as demonstrated against ISIS, and more and more people were using it.
In other words, it's unlikely that Palantir played an outsized role in the intelligence community or the prosecution of UBL. Based on my recollection, the hunt for UBL was more likely done on various platforms than just one. Palantir might have been in the mix, but probably not as the lead. That said, it definitely played an outsize role in the killing of Bagdadi, the leader of ISIS, because it is the premier software tool to make sense of the battlefield today.
Literally the only helpful comment on this 30 minute Palantir advertisement.
Incorrect. They first partnered with the government in 2010 via public records. As your information may not be entirely true because of the restrictions placed when working with the government. Lol
@@thederpyrock5247Palantir was founded in 2003 in response to the GWOT, and its first customer was the IC.
Pltr bag holders hands up 🙌
Haha. When Moon?!? 🌚
Held from 7$ to 15$ not selling until 100 👍🙏
@@Seanydd dude same. Except average cost is 8.10
I don’t think I can consider myself a bag holder. I wish I had money to buy more
Since Feb 2021… unbelievable company! 💎💎
People, that same app could be use against you too. Beware!
That 'could' is probably already an 'is being'. Fuck mass surveillance by governments (and cheers to Edward Snowden). I admit I haven't watched this video (yet), but the title suggests a pro-Palantir propaganda story. Note I use propaganda in the neutral sense of the word, with propaganda meaning just spreading information to the benefit of an entity such as a (political) organization, an individual and their goals or: a computer program (such as one that can be used to mass-surveille people). Meaning just because it's propaganda, it's not necessarily inaccurate or full of lies, just that it disseminates information to the benefit of somebody or something. I'm guessing this video does not contain any major inaccuracies or even outright lies, but again, judging from the title it sounds like it makes the existence and use of Palantir, in the hands of the government, more palatable to the masses (I hope I'm wrong). Regardless of whether that's the video's/video creator's intention, intention doesn't matter a bit. What matters is what people will take away from this video and I hope I'm wrong and it ain't "Yeah, maybe mass surveillance can be okay after all, just in some cases, I guess? Bin Laden was a really bad guy after all!" And that's how they get their foot in your door.
Bin Laden's crimes, as horrible as they were, don't amount to even a drop in the bucket of poverty, murder, terror, exploitation, systemic oppression, intentional suffering and all other forms of violence caused by most governments in the world, regardless whether they're openly evil dictatorships or the so-called liberal democracies of the West (actually, the latter are even worse, speaking in honeyed tongues while supporting and collaborating with some of the world's most openly evil governments (example: Germany, a liberal, parliamentary "democracy" and its support for Erdogan and weapons deals with Saudi-Arabia).
Also I hate how they took the name from Lord of the Rings. While Tolkien was conservative (and outright racist), I dunno if he had been down with mass-spying on people employing technology (which the rapid, unchecked spread of was something Tolkien was critical of, after all, what with how Sauron's armies represent industrialization and the destruction of England's beautiful countrysides) on a scale somebody like, say, Stalin could have only dreamt of (and had he been down wit it, well, fuck his view on the matter then).
It has been used already against tons of people, cos they and they only decide who’s criminal and who’s innocent🙄
It is what it is. Whatever the military has the police have. Whatever the police have the cartels and criminals have. Just live life and mind your business.....that's all we can do.
The photo at 17:50 is not of Licklider but of British actor Sir Michael Caine from the 1967 spy movie 'Billion Dollar Brain' playing the role of Harry Palmer.
Total click-bait title & the video Looks like a paid advertisement for Palantir.
Anyone who insists on being called "doctor" isn't the kind of person I want to know. I've worked with hundreds of PhDs with degrees like Plasma Physics from MIT, Nuclear Medicine from Stanford, etc. None of these brilliant people demanded to be called doctor... I worked with Dave for 2 years before I knew he had a PhD... These folks were brilliant and capable and let their accomplishments speak for themselves.
This!
Shrugs... I have yet to base a decision based upon your lines of thinking.
You don't want to know Dr Who? I don't want to know you.
@@MTXSHO9732vV8SHO talk to me when you've done something that involved more than video games.
As a "Doctor" I agree 100 per cent. Most of the time when someone makes a deal out of it I assume their degree is from a diploma mill.
Bunch of palantir bagholders hyping this video in the comments, lol. Clickbait title and nothing ever mentioned about how palantir was uses to find osama.
Let's be honest: You could make any mundane, boring company seem exciting with this techy, pulsating track in the background. Throw in a bunch of stock clips of computer code flying by, rotating dolly shots, some drone footage et voila!
Charmin toilet paper is exciting!
PLTR has a 60 PE. It will never make a lot of money. It will always have a limited customer base. Unless PLTR goes rogue, the US government will limit their client base.
"They spent long nights cuddling and snuggling after agreeing on all points of an argument."
If Palantir is so effective, then why wasn't it able to predict the Taliban taking over in Afghanistan and the killing of 13 American soldiers as the U.S. was desperately trying to flee Afghanistan after the Taliban takeover? It's like in chess: why take credit for taking out your adversary's rook or queen when you ended up losing the game?
Ohhhh, that makes complete sense now.
Osama had found one of the Palantiri somewhere in the Middle-East, and hoping to be able to utilize the object's power to aid him, he made the mistake of using it.
The moment he placed his hands upon the orb and gazed in, he was immediately under attack by a powerful force. He heard horrific sounds: Bush struggling to say "nuculur" mixed with sounds of country music and the dropping of bombs. None of it could compare to what he saw next. What saw him.
Immediately from the darkness of the orb flashed a single horrific red eye, an eye that could only belong to that most heinous of infernal beings. The eye of Dick Cheney turns its burning gaze toward an Osama powerless to remove his hands from the looking glass at this point. *"III SSEEEEEE YYOUUUUUUU!"*. He franticly tried to relinquish the sphere but alas it was too late.
The enemy knew, and the Black Riders would soon glide through the streets of Abottabad in search of the only thing they seemed to care about.
The ring. The one terrorist ring to rule them all.
Bless you my dear, I needed the giggles today
Palantir found him, but he was where he was anticipated to be, which allowed his execution under terms you'll discover once the limitations run out.
Hah, I did an IT contract gig for them years ago in Palo Alto. Trust me, they were a bunch of young math and computer algorithm nerds that could not actually build or run a secure IT infrastructure, or even build an ikea desk… even if their lives depended on it. That’s not a slight against computer scientists or mathematicians, they were just hyper focused on their theoretical research. I could not make heads nor tails of the equations and stuff I saw around the place, or their casual relationship to the practical technology that made their jobs function. The shire just had a mission… Think of a genius that knows their field of science, but daisy-chains surge protectors risking fires, plugs a random usb stick into their company laptop risking malware… but I had a feeling that those awkward kids working for an LOTR theme+bioshock culture company were up to something incredible…. My judgement on their data mining is still out, PThiel is pretty much a monster. Smart kids though.
you seem a bit condescending. Those nerds are much more valuable to the world than you and everything you've ever done.
Agree about the monster. I read that he has bought up a lot of land and private islands to develop as his private security hideaways.
Basically spying on the population.
Uhh, you forgot your meds, son.
Christ this sounds like a paid promotion
He works for Peter Theil lol
“One of a kind CEO”
I love how nurse Karp totally embraces Socialism while taking full advantage of Capitalism and getting filthy rich while doing so.
The whole video seems like an ad
"Palantir is a dangerous tool saruman"- Gandalf
The cool thing about the Palantir story for me is that two college roommates (I attended Stanford) who were on completely opposite ends of the spectrum politically still found value in their relationship, and how that value paid dividends years later. I recently watched some videos concerning Anduril's growing pains as a defense contractor. Hopefully the ties will begin to loosen and we can as a nation begin to utilize our talent more efficiently with respect to national defense.
That's how politics should be utilised and used if one party took over they will build a hell or will crumble into nothing we need both sometimes to oppose each other and sometimes to refine and polish the other ideas and fill the holes that will enivetably appear
How did you pay for Stanford tuition? Or did your mom or papa pay for it?
@@___Anakin.Skywalker Well, if you're not rich but you go to a rich school, it's actually easier to afford because the school has plenty of money in their financial aid fund and they'll kick in the difference. This was 44 years ago, but after Pell Grants I believe I came out of pocket for about $700 my freshman year. It still holds true - my daughter graduated from Penn and we didn't pay much for her. On the other hand, my son went to Miami and that was an entirely different scenario
Two millionaire investors team up to make billions spying on you.
It is the unlearned masses that fight with each other and make enemies, and not friends.
This is the story of every government tech contractor ever lol
I just love the quality of production of your videos. Plus the quality of research and delivery of the information made me activate the notification bell for your channel. And your channel is one of 5 for which I did that 😊
Thank you and greetings from Germany ✌🏼
A half-hour long video about Palantir and not one mention of Edward Snowden's revelations? 🤔
Amazing! Thanks for the storytelling, John
Nice that the company commented. 😊
I specifically pay for UA-cam Premium to avoid ads, yet here I am
Calling a Landian Acc like Peter Thiel a libertarian is just plain hillarious
Thank you for covering Palantir. Proud shareholder.
also a proud enthusiast to be an intern at palantir
Now we're calling everything an 'algorithm'. Its like we looked into space and threw away terms like 'planet' and "sun" and now call everything 'gravity-masses'.
Back in the day we'd call these 'Computer Programs' and even that was a little vague an not entire appropriate. Maybe a 'Software Suite'?
'Apps' were small programs like widgets with highly specific applications and limited configuration options.
algorithm sounds fancier beccause most people don't know the definition of the word.
Hi, Computer Scientist here, "algorithms" can be thought of as the methodologies used within computer programs to accomplish specific goals. In this case they developed methodologies at PayPal to detect fraud and those same methodologies might be useful for catching terrorists. In both cases you're generally looking for abnormal behavior.
The entire AI craze right now centers around a single algorithm, Large Language Models, or LLMs.
Working in healthcare data, I get why most ppl and average investors don’t understand the company but the value and market they serve are painfully obvious to me. It really didn’t take much of a leap to understand.
And once ppl get over that hurdle, being able to stomach a free discourse, government serving but civil liberty protecting persona is where the division comes from the most.
Digging your channel's concept. 🔥
@@markusmatthew7044 thanks! 🙏
So Palantir was developing software in an agile method way before Agile became popular.
Lol right
I've seen countless demos of Palantirs different work in different spaces in the government. What they do is nothing short of magical.
Despite your abstract value judgment, hearsay included. Your comment is the most credible one here !! Now there's some valuable irony.
I dont need, nor do I want to, prove anything to strangers about Palantir. This product is not something you can afford. Very few people touch and explore Palantir's work. Informing you of their platform's abilities has no value or purpose, so why would I want to?@@clavo3352
This is a Palantir commercial
Yes it is. I made a similar comment about this myself.
AMERICA, AMERICANS!!
What would Italians, Germans and Britons think if the French would claim "We are the only Europeans"?
I don't understand why Unitedstadians think they are the only Americans???
America is a CONTINENT with 35 sovereign countries and over one billion people.
Unitedstadians do not speak for the interests of all Americans! Haiti was already a state 100 years before the first USA city, Jamestown was founded! Haiti, Cuba, Argentina, Mexico, etc. are all American countries.... And have been American for over a hundred years more than the Unitedstadians! So this means that any Mexican is as American as any Argentinian... and vice versa! What do we call the people of United States??? In Latin America, they are called UNITEDSTADIANS!
I love the United States, this is my country where I grew up and where I live.
You make these soulless tech-mercenaries, who develop the tools for mass-surveillance beyond anything that STASI could ever dream of, look like heroes.
Are you affiliated to them or to the intelligence-industrial complex coincidentally?
He is
John, incredible work! Love this content.
I always get excited when you upload a new video. Your videos are the only ones I never skip through. Your storytelling ability is spot on!
❤
Edit: 😔
i love hearing that!
Let people to invest in the company letting people to lose control to their government and enjoy the process by feeling rich. Genius move.
As someone with a STEM PhD I am highly skeptical of anyone who insists on being called 'doctor'
sounds like someone's holding some PLTR bags...
It's an obvious advertisement for Palantir.
great video, I never even heard of palantir until now. I recommend turning down the volume on the background soundtrack
His dream of a “modest life” constituted formulating an overseas investment firm. Super modest LOL
The casual multi millionaire lifestyle over in Europe 😄
I would have sold Palantir to Russia, China, Israel, Honduras, Iran and see how quickly the US Army would change their minds.
Thank you so much for being partasin and not withholding information and leading people into your opinions. Was watching a video from “Modern MBA” about body cam history and I couldn’t even watch it.
"Not being partisan" Did he even mention what opponents of palantir are saying? Seems like he very much chose a side and presented it as the objective truth.
i watched 15 minutes of this video and i have no idea what the point of what i'm watching is.. this is complete garbage
I just got done watching a Demo on their channel from a few months ago... I am absolutely speechless... Part of my job in the Army was maintaining the FBCB2 or BFT (Blue Force Tracker) system, basically the system that allows brass to see whats going on down range in real time, imagine Age of Empires, and I thought that was insane at the time.... This however.... I got goosebumps immediately, and by the end I was ready to vomit. The fact the military doesnt have this deployed with every single branch and using it to its fullest capability is absolutely insane, to the point of being damn near treasonous........
Palantir can get Osama who is a thousand miles away but couldn't find CDNG's El Mencho who is your next door neighbor. Something just don't cut it with me.
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen about Palantir! A job well done!!!
This video is straight Gold!! Information gold!
I share your videos with the founders at the company I work for. They’re always impressed.
So do I
thanks! that’s awesome to hear!
You just watched an advert?
Bin Landen is still a life in super security cell.
He’s splattered all over the sand now dude.😂
if you like this comment I know you’re a real one 😂 thanks for covering palantir jon!!!!
I see you 👀
@@rohw0016😂😂
Excellent thrilling narration. Kudos!
It is selfish and unethical to do a reenactment to take advantage, because it is a mockery of serious events
Congratulations to the owners for choosing the outright most ominous, dangerous thing from Tolkien's mythos as the name of their company. One that turned a strong-willed wizard (Saruman the White) into a henchman of Sauron.
I guess at least they are not fomenting illusions about where this all leads?...
There are many types of terrorism that palantir will never help to solve: the terror of Assad, the terror of pogroms under Netanyahu, the terror of concentration camps under Xi, the terror of juntas committing genocide.
When there is no will. There is no way.
Thank you for putting out a historically accurate summary of the company without the hype or obvious toxic bias in either direction. Well done sir. The shire accepts your membership application.
Xi jing ping was Following
me xi jing Dong was playing ping pong
Xi jing height was tryna bite
Came here to write this comment but you did it better and more concise.
Without the hype? LOL. Did you not read the BS title?
@@Morribyte Obviously, but they can do that without bullshitting.
"The most technical advanced country in the world: America" 🤣🤣
China leads the world in 37 of 44 critical technologies - Australian Strategic Policy Institute
This is really nice work. A lot of effort in this and it shows.
Excellent job once again on explaining things with great detail and making things digestible for the common man or woman. Do. Not. Stop.
Appreciate the comment! Will. Keep. Posting!
Yeah, you're right, I hadn't the slightest notion as to how this all begun.
When creating videos like this, that resemble a documentary, you gotta include your sources.
Pssst, nah. Just take an exciting music track, something techy, futuristic, heart-pounding. Then use clips of the founders making claims and tell the story as 'fact'. Anything the founders say, take it at face value. Sure it's a total black-box multi billion dollar publicly traded company where it's in the founders' interest for the market to hype the value, allowing the founders to cash-out without having to deliver on these promises...
Unless there are tons of companies who renew their contracts with Palantir, investors would be smart to stay on the sidelines. Always ask yourself if you're the sucker in this 'investment' equation.
@@RemiStardust lmao
@@RemiStardust yor comment feels like if you took my comment and asked ChatGPT to give a counter answer, which is why it makes nu actual sense. Learn to write your own comments, and if that was your own, pls next time read the comment you are replying to.
@@oliver-nation4377 Oh sadness. Are you a Palantir investor who finds it offensive when sb points out the complete 'trust-me' nature of the 'investment'?
If so, why do you care about sources in this faux documentary promo piece?
It's a technically well-done piece. Most people will think it's good and Palantir bulls will love it. Only the few serious people, especially those who've lost money in the stock market before, find this a dubious video.
@@RemiStardust first of all. Stop using ChatGPT. Second, the reason sources matter is because you should never "state" anything you are unable to actually proove. And by thst you also need to cross check your sources.
Anyone who is working with the WEF is a threat
Thanks for this video. I currently own a little over 10k shares of this company since I had to sell some to renovate my house. Best investment so far after Apple.
I'm glad you exist because I was worried that the tech industry wasn't killy enough. Good to know someone is still flying the flag for the military industrial complex. [sarcasm]
It took an APP to catch a 6'5 individual on Kidney Dialysis ......Ok...
Seems you're uploading weekly now. Love this. Keep it up
This guy sounds like he's getting paid by these companies to do this
Watched whole video and conclusion was that we can not know how Palantir helped to track down Bin Laden. Whole video is basically an engaging history about Palantir. A time sink and a time waste, generating watch time for UA-cam
21 minutes past and I am yet to hear how the software works or what it does. Bye
Lol The “App”
One of the most important companies in the world 🐐
Exceptionally well done.
idk, but i have a really weird feeling, because i still have no real idea of what palantir is doing. They are connecting databases and are able to visualize the data, such that humans are able to more easily spot patterns etc. But that is not really that complex right? In which way is palantir superior to its competitors? I've seen multiple videos about palantir, but still no video that really gives me any significant information about them from a technical standpoint. How can you just go to Boeing, "take a look" at their database and magically solve most of their problems?
I don’t understand it as well. I guess only math and computer science pros can really understand it
Wasn't it Airbus? Were you really listening?
John this is yet another amazing video!
We never needed a app to catch him. The ppl in Afghanistan pointed a the mountain he was staying in the other side where they pointed all the time! You ask where the Taliban was they pointed to that area. When I came home and they caught him. I was like that’s where the ppl was pointing all the time we just wasn’t listening period
Just finished 0 to 1 and Peter Theil talks about is in the book.
Studying law with dyslexia is hella impressive tbh.
I suffer from severe ADHD and I can barely bind my own shoes without medication. lmao
(It´s not that bad actually)
Great presentation, thank you!
*Let's just appreciate how much of work and time he put into these videos 💘💘*
Let's not, since it lags sources as proof of the statements he makes.
@@oliver-nation4377it's lacks not lags* and he's not a journalist. He doesn't have to give sources if he wants to make videos for entertainment purposes. Also, that's a bot you just replied to.
@@AfricanLionBat It is sad that you claim that he does not need to provide proof. The only time you do not need proof is about common knoledge. It is important to provide sources so he cannot spread misinformation, which is very common in undevelopped countries. (USA, or more eastern countries)
"Zero Dark Thirty" ....because 24 hour clocks aren't already clear enough on when it's nighttime for the military? 🤔🙈
What a long-winded video. I’m 3/4 way through and still don’t know what it does. Then I start reading the comments and now it makes sense. Time for a big thumbs down and a blocking of this channel. Thanks for screwing with users.
Those who believe that an app played a significant role in capturing Bin Laden are gullible people. It was Shakeel Afridi, the Pakistani doctor, who assisted the US in the operation, not a weak American app that would be of no use to the Russians.
Fantastic video, thank you so much. Palantir seems like the real deal in terms of creating real value out of large data sets and AI.
If you don’t know who the marketing department is, you are the marketing department!! 😂
Didn't know that Taiko Waititi is not only the great director, but also a Palantir CEO!
😂😂😂😂
Great Palantir Ad, bravo 👏
25 mins in & you haven't even told me what the APP is yet - this thing better be good..EDIT; I dont think your gonna tell us - im off
It's basically a documentary about the company instead of telling us what the app does and how it's used to catch osama. Waste 30 mins on a company history.
Since Palantir is worth 32 Billion dollars, i think they are doing good. But i like Boeing and Lockheed martin more then Palantir.
i would rather work for Boeing then Palantir.
What a ridiculous propaganda video... 😆 I hope the US government pays you well.
Why was the body never seen? Why would a desert dweller want to buried at sea? Too many unanswered questions.
Why what he wanted would be taken in consideration in the first place?