I love that Turin is smart enough to know you can't just judge the value of units based on the gold value they kill. Too many people think some units are garbage just because they aren't making their money back on pure kill value. Keep up the great casting Turin, sir!
One of my favorite jank strats is to bait a SE art in the back cause i know tzeencth likes to alpha strike it with the hero lord SE core and then counter alpha strike with blunder buss/infernal guard summons. Usually only works on maps where the first point is kinda close to the reinforcement point like that one bret map that is split in 2 with a forest down the mid
I'd wanna run double deathshrieker against Tzeentch. I'm not saying it'd be good but it's a target rich environment with all the annoying large monsters and units Tzeentch has.
Awesome stream! I asked this on a different video but can anyone explain why Astrogoth is so strong? And is he really this strong in lore? And why? One of the last games he was beating up Bloodthirsters left and right and I'm trying to make it make sense. 😂
You should make a video breaking down your chaos dwarf list for the old world, why you are taking them, and talk about the units you like and dont like! I play chaos dwarves in old world and its great to hear others opinions on them
I never understood how Turin calculates tzeench shield value. He just adds value to the tzeench player. Shouldn't he instead be subtracting value from the enemy player since, you know, some of that value went into shields? I don't understand how tzeench gets value by losing shield. 10:29
Let's say the scoreboard said Tzeentch had 4000 value and the enemy also had 4000 value, and let's say we estimated 1000 points of value being absorbed by shields. For the purpose of calculating the actual balance of power, it's equally valid to say Tzeentch is actually ahead by an extra 1000 points as it is to say the enemy actually has 1000 false points. IE the scores of 4000 vs 4000 aren't correct because it's off by a thousand on one side, so whether you fix that by adding to the other side or removing from the inflated side you end up with the same end result. But personally I find it more intuitive to subtract from enemy value too 😂
@@yaroslavkozoriz7367 Well, not exactly, because AFAIK, healing is not being counted as points, so it's like saying the empire gets 500 points for healing their units. Yes, they do heal their units, but it's the enemy that gets the points for doing the additional health dealt as damage
Turin is a competitive player. Tzeentch is competitive. Just like when Slaanesh was extremely competitive, there were a ton of Slaanesh games. It's EXPECTED to see the competitive factions. Complaining is futile and whiny. Instead of complaining, try something constructive.
I love that Turin is smart enough to know you can't just judge the value of units based on the gold value they kill. Too many people think some units are garbage just because they aren't making their money back on pure kill value. Keep up the great casting Turin, sir!
Begone foul Slaanesh bots, this is a Tzeentch video!
Sounds like something a Tzeentch cultist would say
One of my favorite jank strats is to bait a SE art in the back cause i know tzeencth likes to alpha strike it with the hero lord SE core and then counter alpha strike with blunder buss/infernal guard summons. Usually only works on maps where the first point is kinda close to the reinforcement point like that one bret map that is split in 2 with a forest down the mid
Happy Birthday Turin!
I'd wanna run double deathshrieker against Tzeentch. I'm not saying it'd be good but it's a target rich environment with all the annoying large monsters and units Tzeentch has.
Yay! CHORFS Chorfin it up
Awesome stream! I asked this on a different video but can anyone explain why Astrogoth is so strong? And is he really this strong in lore? And why? One of the last games he was beating up Bloodthirsters left and right and I'm trying to make it make sense. 😂
You should make a video breaking down your chaos dwarf list for the old world, why you are taking them, and talk about the units you like and dont like! I play chaos dwarves in old world and its great to hear others opinions on them
TotalTurin again with the perfect battle report
Always here for Turin Ted Talks
I never understood how Turin calculates tzeench shield value. He just adds value to the tzeench player. Shouldn't he instead be subtracting value from the enemy player since, you know, some of that value went into shields? I don't understand how tzeench gets value by losing shield. 10:29
Let's say the scoreboard said Tzeentch had 4000 value and the enemy also had 4000 value, and let's say we estimated 1000 points of value being absorbed by shields. For the purpose of calculating the actual balance of power, it's equally valid to say Tzeentch is actually ahead by an extra 1000 points as it is to say the enemy actually has 1000 false points.
IE the scores of 4000 vs 4000 aren't correct because it's off by a thousand on one side, so whether you fix that by adding to the other side or removing from the inflated side you end up with the same end result.
But personally I find it more intuitive to subtract from enemy value too 😂
@@yaroslavkozoriz7367 Well, not exactly, because AFAIK, healing is not being counted as points, so it's like saying the empire gets 500 points for healing their units. Yes, they do heal their units, but it's the enemy that gets the points for doing the additional health dealt as damage
the goblin aat 5:55 doesn't like gunlines quite as much
So are tzaangors supposed to be better than chaos warriors? What's the deal?
What stats or numbers is Turin looking at @1:02?
Looks like he is referring to their healths: 7.8k for the chorfs to 9.6k for the tzangors
Turin, go back to Papa Nurgle. Im trying to Nurgle main as im a big Death Guard fan and going full stinky unga bunga is fun.
Tzeentch AGAIN really!? Getting real sick/bored of seeing them.
@@Skepticismisthewaycan confirm
It has been age since i have seen some cool vampire coast :,)
Shhhh.... Just enjoy the streams.
their extremelly popular atm but the real bias is turins love for chaos dwarfs
Turin is a competitive player. Tzeentch is competitive. Just like when Slaanesh was extremely competitive, there were a ton of Slaanesh games.
It's EXPECTED to see the competitive factions. Complaining is futile and whiny.
Instead of complaining, try something constructive.