I don’t know if Roland is done with the current Fantom but it probably needs to be. Don’t get me wrong, the Fantom is excellent in its own way. It just doesn’t have enough polyphony to take advantage of what it can do. That’s the only reason I don’t have one. The software is willing but the hardware isn’t. The Integra 7 has the same problem but it’s older hardware. Here’s to hoping they have a new Fantom in the pipeline. Something tells me it will be a couple of years before we see what will replace it, if a replacement comes.
@@park171 I really don’t seek perfection. It’s just the Fantom eats available polyphony up in a non-linear way. It can do that if it had double the polyphony. Korg and Yamaha competitors leave you with less note stealing to done.
I had the summit. lol. They are more so digital synths. Btw. Had the Dave smith prophet rev and arturia poly Brute. Haven’t found one I like within that price point.
If they'd add a linear sequencer and a couple of audio tracks with time streatching, I'd consider one. Locally, there is a Fantom X6, with 4 expansion boards, expanded memory, and audio tracks for $1200. Is it worth the risk, for its age?
That’s a personal decision only you can decide based upon what you value. Even with being a fan of obtaining old hardware, I’d advise taking that money and using it to get a Fantom 0 first unless you’re prepared to service the Fantom X6 yourself. If you don’t have basic electronics troubleshooting and repair skills, don’t buy older gear. Save yourself the future repair headaches.
Personally I hope it’s not the last update , I just got the fantom for £3k including the ex brand new as it seems this update made it more what I was looking for, sold my Kronos as the feel was not as good, and the piano would cut notes off while I was playing,never had that on my Oasys or anything else I’ve owned for a long time. Anyway after getting an rd2000 and loving the feel and some sounds, the v piano allows unlimited polyphony, fantastic, so now I can have all the sounds I loved on my jd800, an1x, jp8000, xv stuff, Jupiter on the list goes on. Genius. Just trying to get my head around the tr rec mode. For certain things and I’ll probably do the same as you stick to the Mpc x for sequencing. Will also try pushing it all to logic to finish a track off.
Let’s keep your fingers crossed. The Fantom is pretty good as it is. Roland has proven that they could abandon their hardware platform as they did with the Fantom G supernatural.
You think this is the end of development on the Fantom? Thry just introduced ACB on it with the EX update. Now they can start porting over all the ACB synths and there’s a LOT. They need to expand the user sampling features as far as looping and add variphrase. Idk about the 5080, what’s in there is close enough. If they did that, you would only get all the effects on a single part, like the JD-800 ABM model. The Kronos may have more effects routing and their own presets, but the Fantom has way more total stages of effects, and the input section has the vocoder and another whole chain of effects, + the analog filter/dist stage. There is something to be said for tones bringing their own insert effect into the scene without a bunch of messing around trying to import it from the program and share a common pool of insert effects.
I do, i think the 2019 fantom was the launch pad for the Roland cloud and zen platform. The processing on the synth has reached full capacity, there’s nothing more it can add without sacrifice or disabling features. Too many would complain. I think fantom is still good without any upgrades but that’s my own thoughts.
Roland Cloud came out earlier in 2018 and Ax-Edge keytar was the first ZenCore inst. Fantom has the same ACB polyphony as System 8 and look how many plugout models Roland released for it.
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I don’t know if Roland is done with the current Fantom but it probably needs to be. Don’t get me wrong, the Fantom is excellent in its own way. It just doesn’t have enough polyphony to take advantage of what it can do. That’s the only reason I don’t have one. The software is willing but the hardware isn’t. The Integra 7 has the same problem but it’s older hardware. Here’s to hoping they have a new Fantom in the pipeline. Something tells me it will be a couple of years before we see what will replace it, if a replacement comes.
Point well noted. Nothing is perfect. But still a lot of room for improvement
@@park171
I really don’t seek perfection. It’s just the Fantom eats available polyphony up in a non-linear way. It can do that if it had double the polyphony. Korg and Yamaha competitors leave you with less note stealing to done.
Ben I think you need one analog. I have a suggestion, the Novation Peak. It's analog with digital oscillators in there.
I had the summit. lol. They are more so digital synths. Btw. Had the Dave smith prophet rev and arturia poly Brute. Haven’t found one I like within that price point.
If they'd add a linear sequencer and a couple of audio tracks with time streatching, I'd consider one. Locally, there is a Fantom X6, with 4 expansion boards, expanded memory, and audio tracks for $1200. Is it worth the risk, for its age?
That’s a personal decision only you can decide based upon what you value.
Even with being a fan of obtaining old hardware, I’d advise taking that money and using it to get a Fantom 0 first unless you’re prepared to service the Fantom X6 yourself. If you don’t have basic electronics troubleshooting and repair skills, don’t buy older gear. Save yourself the future repair headaches.
Personally I hope it’s not the last update , I just got the fantom for £3k including the ex brand new as it seems this update made it more what I was looking for, sold my Kronos as the feel was not as good, and the piano would cut notes off while I was playing,never had that on my Oasys or anything else I’ve owned for a long time. Anyway after getting an rd2000 and loving the feel and some sounds, the v piano allows unlimited polyphony, fantastic, so now I can have all the sounds I loved on my jd800, an1x, jp8000, xv stuff, Jupiter on the list goes on. Genius. Just trying to get my head around the tr rec mode. For certain things and I’ll probably do the same as you stick to the Mpc x for sequencing. Will also try pushing it all to logic to finish a track off.
Let’s keep your fingers crossed. The Fantom is pretty good as it is. Roland has proven that they could abandon their hardware platform as they did with the Fantom G supernatural.
You think this is the end of development on the Fantom? Thry just introduced ACB on it with the EX update. Now they can start porting over all the ACB synths and there’s a LOT. They need to expand the user sampling features as far as looping and add variphrase. Idk about the 5080, what’s in there is close enough. If they did that, you would only get all the effects on a single part, like the JD-800 ABM model. The Kronos may have more effects routing and their own presets, but the Fantom has way more total stages of effects, and the input section has the vocoder and another whole chain of effects, + the analog filter/dist stage. There is something to be said for tones bringing their own insert effect into the scene without a bunch of messing around trying to import it from the program and share a common pool of insert effects.
I do, i think the 2019 fantom was the launch pad for the Roland cloud and zen platform. The processing on the synth has reached full capacity, there’s nothing more it can add without sacrifice or disabling features. Too many would complain. I think fantom is still good without any upgrades but that’s my own thoughts.
Roland Cloud came out earlier in 2018 and Ax-Edge keytar was the first ZenCore inst. Fantom has the same ACB polyphony as System 8 and look how many plugout models Roland released for it.
I thought you had sold your Fantom 7?
I did. This is a 6… thx