Thanks so much for this. As a layperson, it was very helpful to go through these and show the contrasts and so forth. Appreciate your time to help explain!
I’m looking back into Progressive Covenantalism for an MDiv class this week. Good timing! I’ve already read “the big” Kingdom through Covenant book, now I’m on the concise version. Great video!
I presented on Kingdom Through Covenant as a class project and from my understanding I don't think you missed anything major. There is a sense that it isn't really disagreeing with Covenant theology all that much, it's just more emphatic about the pluralism of covenant's and OT distinctions than the Federalist view Particular Baptist's have held for a long time.
I’ve been getting into studying the flow of redemption more, so thanks for this video! I’m reading Christ from Beginning to End for a Bible class, and it’s a good intro to how to understand prog. covenantal hermeneutics
Thks for the review! I am also doing a deep dive into Covenant Theology. I have completely moved away from my Baptist Dispy upbringing. My biggest question is how to reconcile Covenant Theology with a New Covenant emphasis on personal profession of faith for baptism. Dr Wellum’s book has been very helpful!
Thanks for the comment and I will have to think on that question. I too am trying to work through where I exactly land on these framework things and have really enjoyed reading Wellum's work and others who are doing good work on these topics.
Thanks for unpacking this. I assume they teach this at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary since he is a professor there. If you know, what system do they teach at Southeastern Baptist? Just comparing the two seminaries in this matter. Thanks
The good thing about my Southern Baptist Seminary experience (graduated from Southeastern in 2022), is that they are confessionally Baptistic, teach the text, and Scripture informs all they do and say. So evangelical biblical theological frameworks like this (progressive Covenantalism, Dispensationalism, and Covenant Theology, etc) are not taught formally at all really. But they are broader conversations and kept in their place as helpful tools for interpretation but not the main thing. That being said, I have heard that Wellum is going to start using his systematic in his classes soon. So at least he will be using it more and I’m sure some other professors may follow suit.
@@Back2theWord Awesome, thanks for the response! I would love to hear more about your seminary experience sometime. I find it difficult picking one to go to. I love your content. Last question, what systematic theology book did you use at Southeastern?
@@hunter5207 I loved my time at Southeastern and have nothing but good things to say as a distance learning student. I forget how much I talk about it, but I share some of my experience of Seminary in this video on my theological journey - ua-cam.com/video/hXt6egFwSfQ/v-deo.html As for my systematic or theology textbook at Southeastern… because I had a Christian Ministry M.Div (a more general track) I took Christian Theology 1 & 2 with Dr. Steven McKinion (so not a straight up systematic class) and at the time we used “Theology for the Community of God” by Grenz. I don’t know if that is standard across the seminary, in fact I doubt it. I will say when I attended I had and used often, Grudem, Theology for the Church by Akin, people also talked about Erickson… but I never got that one. As for historical theology our textbook was McGrath but I also had and used Allison a bunch.
Thank you for your review. One point that would have been helpful for your audience is a summary of how Reformed Baptist Covenant theology (i.e.1689 Federalism) correlates with the wonderful work you have done. This link will help any who would like to have more information on that system. ua-cam.com/play/PLD7MrXRhfvKCmQxcqjn2zFrISZMEfIPqQ.html
Acts 3:19-21 says these Acts 2 jews don’t have their sins blotted out till after the tribulation. Paul says the believer is already forgiven and more Col 2:9-14. Is the body of Christ already forgiven and not forgiven until after the tribulation at the same time.
Thanks so much for this. As a layperson, it was very helpful to go through these and show the contrasts and so forth. Appreciate your time to help explain!
I’m looking back into Progressive Covenantalism for an MDiv class this week. Good timing! I’ve already read “the big” Kingdom through Covenant book, now I’m on the concise version. Great video!
I presented on Kingdom Through Covenant as a class project and from my understanding I don't think you missed anything major.
There is a sense that it isn't really disagreeing with Covenant theology all that much, it's just more emphatic about the pluralism of covenant's and OT distinctions than the Federalist view Particular Baptist's have held for a long time.
I’ve been getting into studying the flow of redemption more, so thanks for this video! I’m reading Christ from Beginning to End for a Bible class, and it’s a good intro to how to understand prog. covenantal hermeneutics
Thks for the review! I am also doing a deep dive into Covenant Theology. I have completely moved away from my Baptist Dispy upbringing. My biggest question is how to reconcile Covenant Theology with a New Covenant emphasis on personal profession of faith for baptism. Dr Wellum’s book has been very helpful!
Thanks for the comment and I will have to think on that question. I too am trying to work through where I exactly land on these framework things and have really enjoyed reading Wellum's work and others who are doing good work on these topics.
Appreciate your work, brother!
Want to hear more about the Decalogue difference between progressive and new covenants view.
Thanks for unpacking this. I assume they teach this at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary since he is a professor there. If you know, what system do they teach at Southeastern Baptist? Just comparing the two seminaries in this matter. Thanks
The good thing about my Southern Baptist Seminary experience (graduated from Southeastern in 2022), is that they are confessionally Baptistic, teach the text, and Scripture informs all they do and say. So evangelical biblical theological frameworks like this (progressive Covenantalism, Dispensationalism, and Covenant Theology, etc) are not taught formally at all really. But they are broader conversations and kept in their place as helpful tools for interpretation but not the main thing.
That being said, I have heard that Wellum is going to start using his systematic in his classes soon. So at least he will be using it more and I’m sure some other professors may follow suit.
@@Back2theWord Awesome, thanks for the response! I would love to hear more about your seminary experience sometime. I find it difficult picking one to go to. I love your content. Last question, what systematic theology book did you use at Southeastern?
@@hunter5207 I loved my time at Southeastern and have nothing but good things to say as a distance learning student. I forget how much I talk about it, but I share some of my experience of Seminary in this video on my theological journey -
ua-cam.com/video/hXt6egFwSfQ/v-deo.html
As for my systematic or theology textbook at Southeastern… because I had a Christian Ministry M.Div (a more general track) I took Christian Theology 1 & 2 with Dr. Steven McKinion (so not a straight up systematic class) and at the time we used “Theology for the Community of God” by Grenz. I don’t know if that is standard across the seminary, in fact I doubt it. I will say when I attended I had and used often, Grudem, Theology for the Church by Akin, people also talked about Erickson… but I never got that one. As for historical theology our textbook was McGrath but I also had and used Allison a bunch.
Go back and read Kingdom Through Covenant if you haven’t.
Thank you for your review. One point that would have been helpful for your audience is a summary of how Reformed Baptist Covenant theology (i.e.1689 Federalism) correlates with the wonderful work you have done. This link will help any who would like to have more information on that system. ua-cam.com/play/PLD7MrXRhfvKCmQxcqjn2zFrISZMEfIPqQ.html
Acts 3:19-21 says these Acts 2 jews don’t have their sins blotted out till after the tribulation. Paul says the believer is already forgiven and more Col 2:9-14. Is the body of Christ already forgiven and not forgiven until after the tribulation at the same time.
it looks like or its similar to Dispensacionalism just saying brother