What do you think? Was the relationship a romance...or just good friends. Was it possible for FDR even to be 'just friends' with a woman (other than Eleanor)? Let me know in the comments!
LoL.... "Was it possible for FDR even to be 'just friends' with a woman (other than Eleanor)?" Well,.... he most deffo was just friends w Eleanor ;) No matter we how we slip it back and forth... Martha had a much bigger role than what history tells, well atl imo. And you're deffo right.... It is a MASTERPIECE, highly recommend it.
@@LeNaInLoVe I suspect the crown princess's role was very important and it was not just her friendship with FDR but also her friendship with Eleanor that proved beneficial. Thanks of your comment!
I feel that we have to detach sex from romance in this case. Nobody knows if FDR's polio bout had rendered him incapable of sexual activity, but he definetely was in love with Princess Martha. I find it hard to define her feelings, since the PBS series is so convolutely false when dealing with her marriage to Prince Olav and we have no other sources, but she must have enjoyed his attentions.
@@MalenaLannister True, if only the crown princess had left her own account but then, even that would be open to interpretation and speculation by historians on either side of the pond. Thanks for letting us know what you think!
@@LeNaInLoVe Don't dismiss Eleanor as some sort of asexual being; she gave Franklin six children. So, it's as Mrs. Charles Dickens said, "He loved me once"!
I am a Masterpiece member and am watching all the episodes now. I can say that the acting seems over the top (esp. fdr character). As for fdr lechery, no surprise he would be hot for a younger woman. Didn't like the way they tried to make out that Eleanor was jealous. She knew what was up with him by that time in their marriage so doubt if she really cared. That woman was awesome and she didn't need a man to tell her her own worth. Princess Martha knew what was up with him and used it to her advantage. Men like fdr ar so easy to wrap around a woman's finger and her country was at stake, so why not use the man's ego to get what she needed for the greater cause. Doubt if either would have called it a romance. More like a flirtatious freindship. Thanks for the video.
Kyle McLachlan's portrayal of FDR did not strike me as over the top, although the script did. Eleanor's part was exaggerated, I believe, and Missy LeHand's certainly was; the multiple FDR biographies I've read do not portray her as the cat-clawed goddess of jealousy shown in this production. Nor did she fill the functions of FDR's several valets. The most unbelievable aspect of the Masterpiece Theatre production was (for me) the idea that Crown Princess Märtha spoon-fed major policy ideas like Lend-Lease to FDR. Nevertheless, the series is entertaining, no doubt aimed at the Downton Abbey - Crown fans. The best effect of the series on me has been to encourage more learning about the real Norwegian characters and Norway's history.
@@frereM Thanks for your comments. In my new video on Crown Princess Märtha in America, ua-cam.com/video/v_8QHFjtVqY/v-deo.html - I discuss a little known secret uncovered by Norwegian researcher, Trond Noren Isacsson who says that "the Crown Princess fulfilled a decidedly political role, during her US sojourn, in that she passed on a plethora of information to the President about the war in Europe sourced through the Norwegian Embassy in Washington." She did a lot towards policy making and it is nice to see that we can attribute women's accomplishments. The miniseries does a dis-service by placing a romance in there where none belongs. That's the entertainment business for you.
A womanizer is a man who regards a woman as an object to be used and exploited... I have never heard Roosevelt characterized in this manner. He was a man who enjoyed and respected being in the company of an intelligent woman. Although enjoyable and well made, I am beginning to believe that “Atlantic Crossing” is a dramatic fabrication.
Speculation by contemporaries that a romantic relationship was a possibility, and that FDR wanted to sleep with the princess, is not proof of an affair. These are accounts of what FDR was like and his wants, not of what happened or what the princess wanted. The series is a great motivator for me to dig into parts of history that I enjoy. I applaud Masterpiece Theater for that.
I so agree with you. The show runners say that they did extensive research but, in truth, we cannot know what went on behind closed doors - or in the case of this tv show, in Roosevelt's vehicle, but there are third hand accounts that say the crown princess was chaperoned suggesting that there was nothing amiss. It is all speculation when it comes to the level of intimacy of the relationship but I, too, find the history of the events worth learning about as well as the fact that the story is told from a woman-centered historical perspective. Did she really walk out on her husband when he took credit for her part in bringing FDR around to the Lend-Lease idea? Doubtful. But it made a point in how often women's accomplishments are minimized and even usurped by males. This is where I appreciate the show's attempt at giving us the bit of history. Thanks for your comments. Keep them coming...
I also have enjoyed the series but fell there is artistic license. I’m very suspicious of “documentaries “. After digging into history you find many errors. Often propaganda posing as fact.
I do understand why. It is disservice to Crown Princess Märtha of Norway to suggest that she had any relationship with the president other than platonic. Thanks for your comment.
@@fabulouswomeninhistory I think Norwegian historians should be more upset by the negative portrait of Prince Olav (the series implies he was jealous, selfish, incompetent and even a alcoholic) and that of Prince Martha as someone that is manipulated by the norwegia government into getting close to FDR and then reproached by her husband for being unfaithful.
I Kinda don’t like how they ignore Haakon efforts or when he threaten to abdicate if they surrender to the Nazis Which actually made a more popular among the Norwegian people and it was actually a good move or that he sparked the resistance by doing that but that’s what he’s not about him and he has his own movie the kings choice
I think far too much emphasis is forced on the notion of a "romantic relationship". I don't even get that idea from the series. They seem to be very dear friends and to have an almost familial connection with the children calling FDR "grandfather" or "godfather". I think the idea of a "romantic relationship" is being pushed because it supposedly sells books, attracts viewers and gets clicks, but a deep and abiding friendship is actually far more compelling.
@@fabulouswomeninhistory I just saw that yesterday, and I thought it was very out of place. I think that angle is just being played up to try to ramp up viewership.
I agree. We need to know the history but the drama is over done. Wait till you see the scene were Eleaqnor Roosevelt dances with the crown princess. It's just plain silly.
Watch this mini-series for what it is and just enjoy it. If you want absolute historical accuracy good luck in finding that in anything. Liberties were taken here but well within the disclaimer set forth at the beginning of the series.
Yes, she looks so much like her mother that I missed this. That pic got tagged incorrectly and I wish I had caught it before publishing the videos about Crown Princess Märtha. Thanks for your correction.
@ James Torriani He certainly did. According to my other video on Crown Princess Märtha of Norway and Olav when they visited the U.S - ua-cam.com/video/v_8QHFjtVqY/v-deo.html - just 1 year prior to the German invasion of Norway, the U.S. had become “larger Norway” and known as a Norwegian enclave beyond Europe. At this time in history, the population of Norwegian America was over a million. Almost half that of Norway itself, with eighty percent living in the Upper Midwest.Thanks for commenting.
The indication is that FDR had little time with all the affairs of state but to carry on with CP Marta. This make the show an embarrassment to history. This license was not necessary. There were more than enough facts to tell a better story, a bit sad.
As you say, it is easy to concoct a romance given how FDR was a notorious womanizer. Those who make these shows and movies don't really care about accuracy. As for the Norwegian author, he was just trying to sell books using the hook of something illicit. Still, looking forward to watching the series when I get a chance. This video gave good insight into how the rumors got going. As for FDR son, no loyatly for mom!
Who knows now? This video makes it quite clear you do not, nor does anyone else. I guess what is more important is if their relationship, whatever it was, changes history and how.
The series' producers depiction of the "warship" presented to Norway on September 16th 1942 appears on the PBS screen to be a Gleaves or Benson Class Destroyer plus the word "destroyer" is used contextually in the play as being synonymous with "warship." What actually became the HNoMS King Haakon VIII [per NavSource records] was actually the 173 foot US Navy Patrol Craft PC-467; a "warship" of much smaller size and proportion than any of the destroyer craft given to other navies during WWII. This blatant and unnecessary exaggeration of reality by the series' producers calls into question the many other verbal and visual assertions promoted as being fact in the play.
As the child of someone, who committed adultery on a regular basis, I can only imagine how hard a message is for the surviving descendants of either family to hear; yet, we call this a masterpiece.
Well said. What is amazing to me is that Roosevelt's son James even plays up this supposed romance without any loyalty to his mother. Of course, by this time, Eleanor was very aware of her husband's philandering nature and the scene where he accuses her of jealousy is so out of tune with who she really was and how she had moved on from needing (or wanting) him in any form a very long time before the princess came into the picture. As for the crown princess, I doubt very much she had any interest in Roosevelt beyond needing him to help her country. Take a moment to contrast her husband - young,viral,handsome and himself a man of stature and then look at Roosevelt, 20 years older and, well, no need to say more. As for the Norwegian royals, interesting article that talks about how the romantic suggestions are not appreciated by historian, royal researchers, the people of Norway and, including what some family members had to say. Here's that link: www.newsinenglish.no/2021/04/08/atlantic-crossing-crosses-the-atlantic/ Thank you for your heartfelt comments.
The idea that they had an affair is pure fiction. Yes, he enjoyed the company of smart women, good conversation, and companionship. I can see that they were very good close friends, like family. FDR was very unwell and I doubt that he was able to perform sexually but that doesn't mean that he didn't enjoy the company of beautiful smart women. We shouldn't reduce a friendship between a man and a woman to pure sexual desire it does a dis-service to them.
True but it does seem correct that the gentleman always needed to have women around him all the time, if only to be able to relax with their company. That does not mean the crown princess felt the same way, only that he could have been smitten, even if only for a while.
I certainly didn't know the full history. That's why this show is good even if not totally accurate. "The past actually happened but history is only what someone wrote down." - A. Whitney Brown "
FDR ..was very infatuated with all that was beautiful and genteel in life this is how he was .....she was not given proper acknowledgement in getting help from the USA for Europe at the time
I agree she needs to be acknowledged for her part. In recent episode, it is implied that Olav didn't do so but remember folks, this is fiction made from some facts.
Yes, that is the correct Norwegian/Scandinavian pronunciation. I noticed they used that in the tv show but I just never got used to it, so used the English pronunciation. In that regard, the show is more accurate than I am. Thanks for your comments :)
Actually, her name is pronounced Mär-ta /Mærta, not Mar-ta (sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4rtha_av_Sverige). She was originally from Sweden, as you well know - the first vowel is "ä", which does not exist in English but is pronounced more like the As in "cake"/"mare" than the As in "answer"/"Arlington". I.e. more like "MARE-ta" (though the vowel is shorter) than "MAH-ta".
No, it is a fictionalized version of what MIGHT have happened...esp. behind closed doors. The say they did a lot of research but no one knows what was really said between individuals behind closed doors. That's entertainment for you!
No I don't think they had affair....I don't think his health would allow also she loved her husband very much and her children....she was very much a lady. She liked FDR very much and Eleanor... they help her in very turn... FDR had a very bad heart and polio......
There may well have been a friendship ... for political as well as personal reasons. I’ll give the series credit for that. BUT, no way, no how, under no circumstances did FDR hop into any automobile to drive around Washington and the surrounding area. He did have automobiles that he drove at Warm Springs in Georgia and at Hyde Park on the Hudson.
I do not like historical fiction that crosses what actually happened with what might have happened. I didn't like it in Ragtime and I don't like it in Atlantic Crossing. We have so much trouble figuring out what actually happened that I don't want to be confused with the fictionalization of history. I guess thats why I like documentaries. Also, we did notice the televisions in the store windows. There was tv, but the screens were really small and there was a gizmo that you could stand in front of your screen to magnify it. Most of the programming was test patterns & kid shows. In 1950 we got our first tv. The costumes, hair styles & jewelry were great. But Eleanor-Jealous? She had her own relationships going and she was a wonderful activist for civil rights. She was a great first lady. Maybe our greatest.
I agree with you, especially the bit about Eleanor. Franklin let her down very early into their relationship and she went ahead and built her own life separate and with great accomplishments. Thank you for your comments.
Yes, compare FDR to Olav - even if only in the movies- but even his real photos of which you can see more of in my other videos on this subject at ua-cam.com/video/v_8QHFjtVqY/v-deo.html
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What do you think? Was the relationship a romance...or just good friends. Was it possible for FDR even to be 'just friends' with a woman (other than Eleanor)? Let me know in the comments!
LoL.... "Was it possible for FDR even to be 'just friends' with a woman (other than Eleanor)?"
Well,.... he most deffo was just friends w Eleanor ;) No matter we how we slip it back and forth... Martha had a much bigger role than what history tells, well atl imo.
And you're deffo right.... It is a MASTERPIECE, highly recommend it.
@@LeNaInLoVe I suspect the crown princess's role was very important and it was not just her friendship with FDR but also her friendship with Eleanor that proved beneficial. Thanks of your comment!
I feel that we have to detach sex from romance in this case. Nobody knows if FDR's polio bout had rendered him incapable of sexual activity, but he definetely was in love with Princess Martha. I find it hard to define her feelings, since the PBS series is so convolutely false when dealing with her marriage to Prince Olav and we have no other sources, but she must have enjoyed his attentions.
@@MalenaLannister True, if only the crown princess had left her own account but then, even that would be open to interpretation and speculation by historians on either side of the pond. Thanks for letting us know what you think!
@@LeNaInLoVe Don't dismiss Eleanor as some sort of asexual being; she gave Franklin six children. So, it's as Mrs. Charles Dickens said, "He loved me once"!
I am a Masterpiece member and am watching all the episodes now. I can say that the acting seems over the top (esp. fdr character). As for fdr lechery, no surprise he would be hot for a younger woman. Didn't like the way they tried to make out that Eleanor was jealous. She knew what was up with him by that time in their marriage so doubt if she really cared. That woman was awesome and she didn't need a man to tell her her own worth. Princess Martha knew what was up with him and used it to her advantage. Men like fdr ar so easy to wrap around a woman's finger and her country was at stake, so why not use the man's ego to get what she needed for the greater cause. Doubt if either would have called it a romance. More like a flirtatious freindship. Thanks for the video.
I agree with you. Eleanore Roosevelt was an amazing woman. Thanks for your comment. Always good to hear what people have to say.
Kyle McLachlan's portrayal of FDR did not strike me as over the top, although the script did. Eleanor's part was exaggerated, I believe, and Missy LeHand's certainly was; the multiple FDR biographies I've read do not portray her as the cat-clawed goddess of jealousy shown in this production. Nor did she fill the functions of FDR's several valets. The most unbelievable aspect of the Masterpiece Theatre production was (for me) the idea that Crown Princess Märtha spoon-fed major policy ideas like Lend-Lease to FDR. Nevertheless, the series is entertaining, no doubt aimed at the Downton Abbey - Crown fans. The best effect of the series on me has been to encourage more learning about the real Norwegian characters and Norway's history.
@@frereM Thanks for your comments. In my new video on Crown Princess Märtha in America, ua-cam.com/video/v_8QHFjtVqY/v-deo.html - I discuss a little known secret uncovered by Norwegian researcher, Trond Noren Isacsson who says that "the Crown Princess fulfilled a decidedly political role, during her US sojourn, in that she passed on a plethora of information to the President about the war in Europe sourced through the Norwegian Embassy in Washington." She did a lot towards policy making and it is nice to see that we can attribute women's accomplishments. The miniseries does a dis-service by placing a romance in there where none belongs. That's the entertainment business for you.
The Roosevelts were caricatured badly, erroneously I'm sure, and embarrassingly, probably all the characters in this often silly dramatization.
Have you watched films of FDR? He was very much an exaggerated speaker when compared to our current speech. I thought this portrayal was excellent.
I am sure there was a measure of truth in the story.
love the cast and the series , brilliant .👏
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Glad you enjoyed it
A womanizer is a man who regards a woman as an object to be used and exploited... I have never heard Roosevelt characterized in this manner. He was a man who enjoyed and respected being in the company of an intelligent woman. Although enjoyable and well made, I am beginning to believe that “Atlantic Crossing” is a dramatic fabrication.
Speculation by contemporaries that a romantic relationship was a possibility, and that FDR wanted to sleep with the princess, is not proof of an affair. These are accounts of what FDR was like and his wants, not of what happened or what the princess wanted. The series is a great motivator for me to dig into parts of history that I enjoy. I applaud Masterpiece Theater for that.
I so agree with you. The show runners say that they did extensive research but, in truth, we cannot know what went on behind closed doors - or in the case of this tv show, in Roosevelt's vehicle, but there are third hand accounts that say the crown princess was chaperoned suggesting that there was nothing amiss. It is all speculation when it comes to the level of intimacy of the relationship but I, too, find the history of the events worth learning about as well as the fact that the story is told from a woman-centered historical perspective. Did she really walk out on her husband when he took credit for her part in bringing FDR around to the Lend-Lease idea? Doubtful. But it made a point in how often women's accomplishments are minimized and even usurped by males. This is where I appreciate the show's attempt at giving us the bit of history. Thanks for your comments. Keep them coming...
I also have enjoyed the series but fell there is artistic license. I’m very suspicious of “documentaries “. After digging into history you find many errors. Often propaganda posing as fact.
Really enjoyed this and appreciate your research and the overall production of the videos.
Wow, that is so nice to hear. Glad you subbed! More to come....
This is a Master Piece a love story , Amazing❤❤ actors , I love to watch again and again !!!
A big gaffe on the series is when you see store windows with several TV sets on display. TV wasn't mass marketed until about 1948.
Agreed, there were some test TV broadcasts before WWII, but no regular service until after the war.
You would be correct
Yeah, this show was like what they used to call a B movie, kind of mediocre.
I thought exactly the same and wondered " what were the producers thinking"?
This cause a huge controversy here in Norway with historians calling this show all nonsense.
I do understand why. It is disservice to Crown Princess Märtha of Norway to suggest that she had any relationship with the president other than platonic. Thanks for your comment.
@@fabulouswomeninhistory Also the show even implies that she was the person that convinced Roosevelt of the lend lease act which is nonsense.
@@fabulouswomeninhistory I think Norwegian historians should be more upset by the negative portrait of Prince Olav (the series implies he was jealous, selfish, incompetent and even a alcoholic) and that of Prince Martha as someone that is manipulated by the norwegia government into getting close to FDR and then reproached by her husband for being unfaithful.
I Kinda don’t like how they ignore Haakon efforts or when he threaten to abdicate if they surrender to the Nazis Which actually made a more popular among the Norwegian people and it was actually a good move or that he sparked the resistance by doing that but that’s what he’s not about him and he has his own movie the kings choice
Yes, there is plenty to be upset about. A lot of misrepresentation goes on for the sake of drama.
I think far too much emphasis is forced on the notion of a "romantic relationship". I don't even get that idea from the series. They seem to be very dear friends and to have an almost familial connection with the children calling FDR "grandfather" or "godfather". I think the idea of a "romantic relationship" is being pushed because it supposedly sells books, attracts viewers and gets clicks, but a deep and abiding friendship is actually far more compelling.
Did you see the recent episode where FDR goes in for the kiss? Whether even true or not, the show runners and writers are leaning that way.
@@fabulouswomeninhistory I just saw that yesterday, and I thought it was very out of place. I think that angle is just being played up to try to ramp up viewership.
The history is interesting, the dramatization comes off as a bit silly in parts
I agree. We need to know the history but the drama is over done. Wait till you see the scene were Eleaqnor Roosevelt dances with the crown princess. It's just plain silly.
@@fabulouswomeninhistory Love the series but cringed at that scene!
Interesting video, however the audio is very muffled.
Thanks for letting me know. I will work on that.
Watch this mini-series for what it is and just enjoy it. If you want absolute historical accuracy good luck in finding that in anything. Liberties were taken here but well within the disclaimer set forth at the beginning of the series.
The picture at 37 seconds is Princess Astrid, Crown Princess Martha’s daughter.
Yes, she looks so much like her mother that I missed this. That pic got tagged incorrectly and I wish I had caught it before publishing the videos about Crown Princess Märtha. Thanks for your correction.
Norwegian Americans are a major group in the US. Roosevelt also had a strong political reason for being friendly to the royal family.
@ James Torriani He certainly did. According to my other video on Crown Princess Märtha of Norway and Olav when they visited the U.S - ua-cam.com/video/v_8QHFjtVqY/v-deo.html - just 1 year prior to the German invasion of Norway, the U.S. had become “larger Norway” and known as a Norwegian enclave beyond Europe. At this time in history, the population of Norwegian America was over a million. Almost half that of Norway itself, with eighty percent living in the Upper Midwest.Thanks for commenting.
The indication is that FDR had little time with all the affairs of state but to carry on with CP Marta. This make the show an embarrassment to history. This license was not necessary. There were more than enough facts to tell a better story, a bit sad.
It is odd how they wrote the script. Some what disney like.
I find myself unable to watch many of theses not-so-masterpieces due to their historical inaccuracies. This one sounds more like wishful thinking.
As you say, it is easy to concoct a romance given how FDR was a notorious womanizer. Those who make these shows and movies don't really care about accuracy. As for the Norwegian author, he was just trying to sell books using the hook of something illicit. Still, looking forward to watching the series when I get a chance. This video gave good insight into how the rumors got going. As for FDR son, no loyatly for mom!
Movies love to sell even a hint of romance.
I don't see how Roosevelt with his polio could have had an affair with anyone.
Then you have a very limited imagination or life experience. Where there is a will there is a way.
Who knows now? This video makes it quite clear you do not, nor does anyone else. I guess what is more important is if their relationship, whatever it was, changes history and how.
I like your thinking same. History is at the heart of the matter (excuse the pun!). 😀
The series' producers depiction of the "warship" presented to Norway on September 16th 1942 appears on the PBS screen to be a Gleaves or Benson Class Destroyer plus the word "destroyer" is used contextually in the play as being synonymous with "warship." What actually became the HNoMS King Haakon VIII [per NavSource records] was actually the 173 foot US Navy Patrol Craft PC-467; a "warship" of much smaller size and proportion than any of the destroyer craft given to other navies during WWII. This blatant and unnecessary exaggeration of reality by the series' producers calls into question the many other verbal and visual assertions promoted as being fact in the play.
As the child of someone, who committed adultery on a regular basis, I can only imagine how hard a message is for the surviving descendants of either family to hear; yet, we call this a masterpiece.
Well said. What is amazing to me is that Roosevelt's son James even plays up this supposed romance without any loyalty to his mother. Of course, by this time, Eleanor was very aware of her husband's philandering nature and the scene where he accuses her of jealousy is so out of tune with who she really was and how she had moved on from needing (or wanting) him in any form a very long time before the princess came into the picture.
As for the crown princess, I doubt very much she had any interest in Roosevelt beyond needing him to help her country. Take a moment to contrast her husband - young,viral,handsome and himself a man of stature and then look at Roosevelt, 20 years older and, well, no need to say more.
As for the Norwegian royals, interesting article that talks about how the romantic suggestions are not appreciated by historian, royal researchers, the people of Norway and, including what some family members had to say. Here's that link: www.newsinenglish.no/2021/04/08/atlantic-crossing-crosses-the-atlantic/
Thank you for your heartfelt comments.
FDR couldnt wack anyone. He had polio.
The idea that they had an affair is pure fiction. Yes, he enjoyed the company of smart women, good conversation, and companionship. I can see that they were very good close friends, like family. FDR was very unwell and I doubt that he was able to perform sexually but that doesn't mean that he didn't enjoy the company of beautiful smart women. We shouldn't reduce a friendship between a man and a woman to pure sexual desire it does a dis-service to them.
FDR already had a mistress and on his death that mistress was with him
True but it does seem correct that the gentleman always needed to have women around him all the time, if only to be able to relax with their company. That does not mean the crown princess felt the same way, only that he could have been smitten, even if only for a while.
You used a picture of Astrid, her daughter, for Martha.
I know that now, thanks. I cannot go back and edit once posted on YT but thanks for the information.
meh....ALL FOR NORWAY. I am humbled learning about their plight in WW2.
I certainly didn't know the full history. That's why this show is good even if not totally accurate. "The past actually happened but history is only what someone wrote down." - A. Whitney Brown
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FDR ..was very infatuated with all that was beautiful and genteel in life this is how he was .....she was not given proper acknowledgement in getting help from the USA for Europe at the time
I agree she needs to be acknowledged for her part. In recent episode, it is implied that Olav didn't do so but remember folks, this is fiction made from some facts.
Her name is pronounced: "Marta".
Yes, that is the correct Norwegian/Scandinavian pronunciation. I noticed they used that in the tv show but I just never got used to it, so used the English pronunciation. In that regard, the show is more accurate than I am. Thanks for your comments :)
Actually, her name is pronounced Mär-ta /Mærta, not Mar-ta (sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A4rtha_av_Sverige). She was originally from Sweden, as you well know - the first vowel is "ä", which does not exist in English but is pronounced more like the As in "cake"/"mare" than the As in "answer"/"Arlington". I.e. more like "MARE-ta" (though the vowel is shorter) than "MAH-ta".
BTW Ontario is pronounced ON-TARE'-EE-OH with tare rhyming with air.
Thx, thought cuz it was on PBS, it was fact. Polio, forgot how bad it was back then. Thank God for vaccs.
No, it is a fictionalized version of what MIGHT have happened...esp. behind closed doors. The say they did a lot of research but no one knows what was really said between individuals behind closed doors. That's entertainment for you!
Can't imagine Crown princess Martha had any romantic feelings for Franklin Roosevelt. 🙄
No I don't think they had affair....I don't think his health would allow also she loved her husband very much and her children....she was very much a lady. She liked FDR very much and Eleanor... they help her in very turn... FDR had a very bad heart and polio......
I agree. Thanks for letting us know your thoughts!
There may well have been a friendship ... for political as well as personal reasons. I’ll give the series credit for that. BUT, no way, no how, under no circumstances did FDR hop into any automobile to drive around Washington and the surrounding area. He did have automobiles that he drove at Warm Springs in Georgia and at Hyde Park on the Hudson.
I agree with you. No way, no how. 🙂
Some of this is pure speculation, and a lot of the language is subjective, and sometimes loaded.
I do not like historical fiction that crosses what actually happened with what might have happened. I didn't like it in Ragtime and I don't like it in Atlantic Crossing. We have so much trouble figuring out what actually happened that I don't want to be confused with the fictionalization of history. I guess thats why I like documentaries. Also, we did notice the televisions in the store windows. There was tv, but the screens were really small and there was a gizmo that you could stand in front of your screen to magnify it. Most of the programming was test patterns & kid shows. In 1950 we got our first tv. The costumes, hair styles & jewelry were great. But Eleanor-Jealous? She had her own relationships going and she was a wonderful activist for civil rights. She was a great first lady. Maybe our greatest.
I agree with you, especially the bit about Eleanor. Franklin let her down very early into their relationship and she went ahead and built her own life separate and with great accomplishments. Thank you for your comments.
Huh
Come on he couldn't stand or walk. Most likely he was impotent. The thought nauseated me.
Yes, compare FDR to Olav - even if only in the movies- but even his real photos of which you can see more of in my other videos on this subject at ua-cam.com/video/v_8QHFjtVqY/v-deo.html