Thank you for also including T16 farms :) me and my friend finish our atlas today and we're looking to spec into a specific farm so this is nicly timed :D
kinda suspisious when he buy HH and Nimis the 2 first days of the leagues when he need to do campaign and setup the atlas and then make less money than me with HH build ... And people how think game loot less than before WTF game never looted so munch you can't take necropolis and affliction as exemple.
@@otpwo4387 You are delusional. 3 seperate nerfs since Sentinel to loot. Without affliction and Tota to cover it up, it is very noticeable. T17s still remain a mistake to be added to the game with the loot multiplier lines they have.
Its not as good as in 3.24 3.24, not many people could do t17 boss rush so frag prices were insane, this league much cheaper but the map price is about the same
I feel like the "Best" strats this league are going to be ones that can make optimal use of the currency market or can find easy sales in the form of good fractures, etc. Anytime you can ever avoid using TFT is a W in my book at least, god knows I struggle to get sales there daily
They fucked up the market already by letting people do unlimited buy orders. So it is just flippers putting up absurd ratios which normal players follow as the ticker at the top shows you what other people are buying at. Not what they are selling at. It was a really stupid system for anything outside of direct currency exchanges.
The Strongboxes T17 strat just doesnt work for me. I spent 100c on one map with all the necessary scarabs, and i got back less than 30c, now i either got rly unlucky or the strat doesnt work.
Ggg instead of fixing t17 decided to double down and actually make things worse, but hey look you can raise pigs and boats!!!! Such a good league!!!! (1d/hour, worse than kalandra XD)
Done almost 100 maps of legion with 3xlegion 1xofficers 1xdomination with legion on map device and red altars. 5 legions is pretty perfect for having niko or shrine buff through the whole map and not doing any slow legions. 6 min maps with looting and on average 1.5 div looted with 30c invested per map. Selling decks and emblems only in 1div bulk, and this is on a pretty shit char. If I could cut a min off each map it would be big. I would rather do this than roll each map 20 times in HO and do fucking tunnel layouts all day.
@@KalinGHG I'm buying them on trade site or discord yeah. Exchange is always too expensive to buy anything. I usually can get each for 3-4c. It takes an extra 10mins to buy them but when you gotta buy 120 legion scarabs I'm not paying 6-7c each, and I just do my own sales/trades while I buy my own scarabs so I dont have to leave maps to sell stuff
@@theroyalcam I haven't tested it at much but I feel like Beyond is kind of bad this league and I want to be done with a map in 6 mins doing 5 legions. Maybe if I invested more into the build I would, but for now I am doing basic Legion with no Deli since all the loot drops from boxes and loot tile rares anyways
@@bonniebowen116 yo bro, just realize tht this patch you hv to favour 2 map. one is actual map another one is connecting😂😂😂. The connecting map then u can scar it to hv same divine card drop. This way u cn achieve map sustain
try harbinger. been playing a duo, doing harbinger and scarabs. literally just grab every single scarab node, and a few of the more likely that are expensive, essence, boxes, and harbinger for sustain. we do 2 harbinger, and 1 of the other 3 scarabs, and make around 20-30d an hour.
Did you drop a full mirror or something? xD I did Harbingers and barely broke even. You get like ~15 chaos, x2 ancients and x2 Anulls every map which don't even cover the cost of the scarabs. Fracturing Shards are basically your profits but they drop very rarely. Like once every 10th map.
Really? Through the whole day i farmed some millions of gold in t17 scarab farming with top map rolls and max map mods effects etc, picking all affliction boosts and after ~40 maps i realised the strat is pure garbage. It's only good for gold farming, but have to always pair scarabs with currency mods on the map. Sure i once had x5 Valdo's boxes in one map and some big loots, but on the distance loot is just not there.
So in the destructive play setup, what exactly am I selling? The maps that drop from the bosses? Or do I want to also run those maps myself for the fragments?
@@Fubgun so i tried a T16 map with 3 Ambush 1. discernment 1. hidden comp. and i killed all mobs first for shrine buff then i opened and did all ritual/boxes. i only got 4 scarab to drops. so i got 6C in scarab and about 20 raw chaos. and i bought enough scarabs to do 10 runs taht cost 4div so yeahhh i dont think it worth. i dont get why no scarabs drop guess T17 scarab % is important
game never looted so munch u are delutionnal as fk because of affliction and necropolis. Sextant was not that big and in compensation atlas buff , T17 and now a 6th slot in map device.
@@otpwo4387 I can’t take you serious when you can’t even spell delusional. I didn’t say you couldn’t make currency. I’ve made 2 Headhunters and a Mageblood. Ground loot is terrible for anyone that actually juices their maps. I was doing it way before affliction and T17s and scarabs in their current form are dog shit.
On one hand, I'm disappointed he didn't mention the strat I'm running as it makes me question the viability of it. On the other hand, my strat will remain profitable BECAUSE he didn't mention it.
@@Fubgun wouldnt the ambush strat be also good for farming gold cause it gives u a lot of stronghold boxes which spawns mobs which drop gold? (deli,legion etc dont drop much gold)
the silo boss rush one he mentioned is alch and go. Destructive play in general and going maven invite farming is also pretty decent to do with no scarabs.
when doing silo, you dont actually want to kill the main boss, only the bosses that maven summons. basically, go in boss room, phase the main boss, maven summons other bosses, kill other bosses, leave map, open new silo, repeat. if you mess up and kill the main boss, maven will count silo map as witnessed, now u cant run silo map with maven witness, so u have to do a maven 10 way invitation to reset the witness. dont mess up the next time, ez
what do u mean, i thought thats the point of silo so that you don't witness the boss but still kill the destructive play extra bosses that way u can repeat silo over and over
i ran 20 jungle valley t16 loaded to the teeth with every scarab listed and only made a 3 div just purely due to picking up scrolls,etc. that shit is not 5-6d a hour lol
@@lndigohI’m sure there’s some RNG involved but I’ve ran multiple tests and using wealthy exile everytime I did this strat it came up with 6-7div increase I realize you can’t sell everything so let’s say more like 5-6. Also depends how fast you run the maps, how you have your atlas setup, etc.
@@Ryan-wt1mb i just cant see it, i was running ~7min maps and it was 4.8 div total. I just think this leagues mega nerfed drop rate is just way too bs. ive done around 200ish maps total thus far of farm and have looted literally 1 divine drop which was 2 divines outta a strongbox. Idk its literally poverty league
@@Ryan-wt1mb pretty solid, theyre mostly all over 80 quant and all 8mod. couldve been a shit go but it just feels like theres almost no profit to really be made in the league outside the mechanic
all of my currency related stuff gets disliked by a minor amount of people. Some people just hate me because I make too much currency, it's weird but whatever.
I ran through 10 t16 maps and the wealthy exile shows that wealth has not changed in any way (sometimes -0.3 div). is it necessary to farm only on t17 or is farming on t16 based on lucky drops?
I was making 13d/hr (all on stream). It's more then just fractures though, it's 6 links and scarabs as well. I don't think my version is optimal but it was fine.
Same for me, i have a lot of scarabs, but bulk selling it would mean nlosing 30% of the value. Singular selling em would mean losing so much time that can be invested in maps. Scarabs are crazy expensive and loot is too various.
@@AlbertoBoccadamo bro are you dumb? how on earth can you lose 30% with bulk selling? pls don't tell me you're that stupid to think that we less for a discount in this game for bulk xD you should get 30% extra... 'but bulk selling it would mean nlosing 30% of the value' noob xD
The thing is.. im having such a hard time getting to the place where i can buy enough scarabs to snowball.., now i can do 10 maps and thats it.. if it returns the value, great, if it doesnt, restart. did the ambush strat like this twice (20 maps) didnt get the return i needed to keep it going. Nice gold/h tho
Thank you for also including T16 farms :) me and my friend finish our atlas today and we're looking to spec into a specific farm so this is nicly timed :D
Fianlly a league, where fubgun's currency stashtab looks like mine.
Balanced
Ah, it's as expensive as a couple of mirrors.
Poverty league.
kinda suspisious when he buy HH and Nimis the 2 first days of the leagues when he need to do campaign and setup the atlas and then make less money than me with HH build ... And people how think game loot less than before WTF game never looted so munch you can't take necropolis and affliction as exemple.
@@otpwo4387 You are delusional. 3 seperate nerfs since Sentinel to loot. Without affliction and Tota to cover it up, it is very noticeable. T17s still remain a mistake to be added to the game with the loot multiplier lines they have.
T17s was a mistake. Need a complete revamp.
Unfortunate that we're forced to run things we don't enjoy or see our profits cut by 70%.
I agree, t17s need an entire rework.
Not if you run ultimatum or Simulacrum, sanctum btw is the best currency strat, so yep
How would T17 boss rush compare to these? Do you know of quant from blue altars impacts frag drops?
Not really sure, haven't done t17 boss rush since day 2-3. Zigg looks quite promising with the current price of maven/uber eater fragments.
Its not as good as in 3.24
3.24, not many people could do t17 boss rush so frag prices were insane, this league much cheaper but the map price is about the same
I feel like the "Best" strats this league are going to be ones that can make optimal use of the currency market or can find easy sales in the form of good fractures, etc.
Anytime you can ever avoid using TFT is a W in my book at least, god knows I struggle to get sales there daily
They fucked up the market already by letting people do unlimited buy orders. So it is just flippers putting up absurd ratios which normal players follow as the ticker at the top shows you what other people are buying at. Not what they are selling at. It was a really stupid system for anything outside of direct currency exchanges.
2:33 , My nizzles.
Great as usual, thanks!!
The Strongboxes T17 strat just doesnt work for me. I spent 100c on one map with all the necessary scarabs, and i got back less than 30c, now i either got rly unlucky or the strat doesnt work.
I've made over 300d~ in the past 2 days, all on stream. Use wealthyexile to track your profit, a lot of it comes from scarabs which you have to sell.
@@Fubgun Do you sell scarabs in bulk? Also what rolls do you usually have on the maps you play?
if you are judging a strategy by doing only one map of it, it's pretty tragic
@@omegaseptagon5708 fking noob xD
One map omg XDDDD
Thanks Fubgun for making ambush prices go to the moon :(
How on earth did you get LS tanky enough to do T17s? I can do the damage, just squishy AF
U just gotta kill the first couple rares and HH does the rest
So all T16 strats suck and are only used to funnel resources into making your character able to do real T17 strats. Thanks ggg...
pretty much, I'm also not a fan of the current state of endgame. Running t17s aren't even that fun.
@@Fubgunyeah cuz mods on t17 make no sense
Did you play last league? It was basically the same. A lot of people saying the same as you seems that didnt play necropolis. Just curious
Ggg instead of fixing t17 decided to double down and actually make things worse, but hey look you can raise pigs and boats!!!! Such a good league!!!! (1d/hour, worse than kalandra XD)
@@kooshappreciator4773 nah league is great and you can make money as always
Done almost 100 maps of legion with 3xlegion 1xofficers 1xdomination with legion on map device and red altars. 5 legions is pretty perfect for having niko or shrine buff through the whole map and not doing any slow legions. 6 min maps with looting and on average 1.5 div looted with 30c invested per map. Selling decks and emblems only in 1div bulk, and this is on a pretty shit char. If I could cut a min off each map it would be big. I would rather do this than roll each map 20 times in HO and do fucking tunnel layouts all day.
Any chance you can share your atlas tree? :)
you do beyond or deli with that legion?
Are you buying scarab on discord?
@@KalinGHG I'm buying them on trade site or discord yeah. Exchange is always too expensive to buy anything. I usually can get each for 3-4c. It takes an extra 10mins to buy them but when you gotta buy 120 legion scarabs I'm not paying 6-7c each, and I just do my own sales/trades while I buy my own scarabs so I dont have to leave maps to sell stuff
@@theroyalcam I haven't tested it at much but I feel like Beyond is kind of bad this league and I want to be done with a map in 6 mins doing 5 legions. Maybe if I invested more into the build I would, but for now I am doing basic Legion with no Deli since all the loot drops from boxes and loot tile rares anyways
Whats the best way for map sustain ? I used singular focus and favour map with quantity and all explicit modifier still cant sustain the map 😢😢😢
I'm doing this, too, and can't sustain jungle valley
@@bonniebowen116 yo bro, just realize tht this patch you hv to favour 2 map. one is actual map another one is connecting😂😂😂. The connecting map then u can scar it to hv same divine card drop. This way u cn achieve map sustain
try harbinger. been playing a duo, doing harbinger and scarabs. literally just grab every single scarab node, and a few of the more likely that are expensive, essence, boxes, and harbinger for sustain. we do 2 harbinger, and 1 of the other 3 scarabs, and make around 20-30d an hour.
Did you drop a full mirror or something? xD
I did Harbingers and barely broke even. You get like ~15 chaos, x2 ancients and x2 Anulls every map which don't even cover the cost of the scarabs.
Fracturing Shards are basically your profits but they drop very rarely. Like once every 10th map.
@@henrikswanstrom9218scarabs are majority of the profit
Harbingers are bad as always, they need div shards up or be ineffective
haha, i fell for it. holy shit what a terrible fucking strat
is the strongbox strat still good
I always wonder why people hesitate to use the general "face off" keystone on atlas / the general scarab and use sergeants instead , why is this?
Does destroying an enemy (shattering, exploding, etc) prevent or reduce the spawn rate of beyond monsters?
No
Fubgun my god
Sanctum for life
is this viable without that very expensive scarab? if so, how much better/worse it is?
Really? Through the whole day i farmed some millions of gold in t17 scarab farming with top map rolls and max map mods effects etc, picking all affliction boosts and after ~40 maps i realised the strat is pure garbage. It's only good for gold farming, but have to always pair scarabs with currency mods on the map. Sure i once had x5 Valdo's boxes in one map and some big loots, but on the distance loot is just not there.
should i not using "Singular Focus" node. if i want T17maps drop? in t16 Jungle valley box farm.
They still drop
you'll get less t17 drops with singular focus, but they can still drop.
What do u aim for on ur maps for legion one ?
what about boss rushing strongboxes divination card strat?
So in the destructive play setup, what exactly am I selling? The maps that drop from the bosses? Or do I want to also run those maps myself for the fragments?
you sell the map drops, but it's also good profit if you run these yourself (need a stronger build to run these efficiently)
ambush is at 11 is it worth in T16 or only recommend now for T17
I think 11 is fine, but test yourself.
@@Fubgun so i tried a T16 map with 3 Ambush 1. discernment 1. hidden comp. and i killed all mobs first for shrine buff then i opened and did all ritual/boxes. i only got 4 scarab to drops. so i got 6C in scarab and about 20 raw chaos. and i bought enough scarabs to do 10 runs taht cost 4div so yeahhh i dont think it worth. i dont get why no scarabs drop guess T17 scarab % is important
Imagine a game where u kill monsters and they actually drop loot.
game never looted so munch u are delutionnal as fk because of affliction and necropolis. Sextant was not that big and in compensation
atlas buff , T17 and now a 6th slot in map device.
@@otpwo4387 I can’t take you serious when you can’t even spell delusional. I didn’t say you couldn’t make currency. I’ve made 2 Headhunters and a Mageblood. Ground loot is terrible for anyone that actually juices their maps. I was doing it way before affliction and T17s and scarabs in their current form are dog shit.
On one hand, I'm disappointed he didn't mention the strat I'm running as it makes me question the viability of it. On the other hand, my strat will remain profitable BECAUSE he didn't mention it.
this tbh lol. i've been running a duo strat that's been making us around 30d an hour in t17's. been quite nice.
i havent played poe in a few years, is this guy our grimro now?
Ehh yes and no, Fubgun just goes for the best currency strats while Grimro liked to dive deep into the league mechanics as well
For the T16 ambush strat can I go with exarch instead of eater for more consistent loot or would the eater quant altars be better for the strongboxes?
you can go eater or exarch, your choice.
@@Fubgun wouldnt the ambush strat be also good for farming gold cause it gives u a lot of stronghold boxes which spawns mobs which drop gold? (deli,legion etc dont drop much gold)
Bro is there seriously not a single method of farming that doesn't involve spending half a div to a div per map just to farm?...
the silo boss rush one he mentioned is alch and go. Destructive play in general and going maven invite farming is also pretty decent to do with no scarabs.
PoE is a game where the more you invest the more you make :-/
noob comment xD
ambush scarabs are 9c each. is it worth it for t16 maps? discernment scarab is 20c....
9c each is worth it.
@@Fubgun yeah the strat is actually pretty sick
Hi, can you please make a stronger version of Ele Hit?
So the smugglers cache do they drop gold or is it the rogue markers u mean when u said "easy money" ??
contracts, blueprints and the rogue markets. Takes like 3 seconds per a map, so pretty worth it.
@@Fubgun hm never thought of that as currency making cus i thougt every like contract etc was like 1c each🤣
@@Fubgun but don't you have to go to TFT and sell them? kinda annoying if thats required :)
@@Fubgun how do u sell contracts?
Tried on T16 - suck hard, lost currency
is it really worth using packsize chisel over scarab chisel? ty!
scarab chisel is just very expensive, not sure how much value you get back.
Would it be okay to do fracturing orb farm on a t16 map?
Holy moly, essence in t16 is NOT easy
Im running silos but how do I proc maven if she has witnessed previous map ??
when doing silo, you dont actually want to kill the main boss, only the bosses that maven summons.
basically, go in boss room, phase the main boss, maven summons other bosses, kill other bosses, leave map, open new silo, repeat.
if you mess up and kill the main boss, maven will count silo map as witnessed, now u cant run silo map with maven witness, so u have to do a maven 10 way invitation to reset the witness. dont mess up the next time, ez
@@mtxumi cheers mate !
Do i need a HB to farm t17 ?
Thanks
im just running 4 essence scarabs with essence scarab of ascent in yellow maps and im making 10 div an hour
How do you sell the essences? Im trying to bulk sell on tft at 90% and no one buys
@@PauloVictor-tz9bg just use the trade market
Silo tech does not work anymore, right? I can only get the witness message after I kill Silo boss (3rd phase)
yeah thats the point, so you can keep running it over and over again. Refer to my video from a week ago, as I explain the whole strat.
what do u mean, i thought thats the point of silo so that you don't witness the boss but still kill the destructive play extra bosses that way u can repeat silo over and over
@@Fubgun oh right, silly me, totally forgot that Maven need to witness to release more boss...
@@luhcrankem6695 it's 3am here, my brain does not function... lol, ty, i totally forgot
@@luhcrankem6695 oh, do we need to roll the map for this strat, or just run them white?
Can confirm t16 ambush farm is around 5-6 div/hr with 6/1div for discernment and 11/d for ambush
Hopefully the prices don’t get out of wack with this
i ran 20 jungle valley t16 loaded to the teeth with every scarab listed and only made a 3 div just purely due to picking up scrolls,etc. that shit is not 5-6d a hour lol
@@lndigohI’m sure there’s some RNG involved but I’ve ran multiple tests and using wealthy exile everytime I did this strat it came up with 6-7div increase
I realize you can’t sell everything so let’s say more like 5-6.
Also depends how fast you run the maps, how you have your atlas setup, etc.
@@Ryan-wt1mb i just cant see it, i was running ~7min maps and it was 4.8 div total. I just think this leagues mega nerfed drop rate is just way too bs. ive done around 200ish maps total thus far of farm and have looted literally 1 divine drop which was 2 divines outta a strongbox. Idk its literally poverty league
@@lndigohhow well are you rolling your maps? I save my 100%+ quant corrupted maps for this strat
@@Ryan-wt1mb pretty solid, theyre mostly all over 80 quant and all 8mod. couldve been a shit go but it just feels like theres almost no profit to really be made in the league outside the mechanic
Why run blue altars with the legion strat isn't it worth more on the red altars?
you can do either
@fubgun why no map showcase?
Too many different strats to show, I've done all of these on my stream tho.
Which atlas would be good for a new player to start earning currency ?
Help me please 😊 I play on gladiator
What's up with the like-dislike ratio?
all of my currency related stuff gets disliked by a minor amount of people. Some people just hate me because I make too much currency, it's weird but whatever.
I ran through 10 t16 maps and the wealthy exile shows that wealth has not changed in any way (sometimes -0.3 div). is it necessary to farm only on t17 or is farming on t16 based on lucky drops?
What did u farm to reach t17
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dnt do fracture farm, its bait xD
I was making 13d/hr (all on stream). It's more then just fractures though, it's 6 links and scarabs as well. I don't think my version is optimal but it was fine.
ambush farm is complete bait btw, lost 30 div before i realized
I literally been doing it on stream for the past 2 days, easily up 300~ or so divines xdd
Same for me, i have a lot of scarabs, but bulk selling it would mean nlosing 30% of the value. Singular selling em would mean losing so much time that can be invested in maps.
Scarabs are crazy expensive and loot is too various.
@@AlbertoBoccadamo bro are you dumb? how on earth can you lose 30% with bulk selling? pls don't tell me you're that stupid to think that we less for a discount in this game for bulk xD you should get 30% extra... 'but bulk selling it would mean nlosing 30% of the value' noob xD
im farming t17 ambush and beyond also doing carry and i fell im not making money XD
use wealthy exile, very easy to track your currency gains. A lot of the profit is from scarabs
Downvote the video guys, we can't let this get out.
xdd
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The thing is.. im having such a hard time getting to the place where i can buy enough scarabs to snowball.., now i can do 10 maps and thats it.. if it returns the value, great, if it doesnt, restart. did the ambush strat like this twice (20 maps) didnt get the return i needed to keep it going. Nice gold/h tho
You couldn't do a poe planner link? Screw that trash maxtroll website
why strongboxes? ive opened thousands of them and never gotten a single good item from them
yup aint looking to hot. skipping this one
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whats with all the dislikes? are people disliking the video so it doesn't change the ingame economy?
fuuu
T17 regex?