@gaboseries5252 'this' wasn't planned when they thought the game would be a success. They fucked it up by shooting Batman on a park bench and thought a 3 minute slideshow which literally, with a line each, explains that the team they worked with the whole Time could have deactivated the neck bombs, that Batman and the JL were cloned, and that the world just magicked itself back to normal and the JL needed a break. Fuck that ending. It angers me to know Kevin Conroy won't be heard in a positive surrounding again. Its him I feel sorry for. We were fucked.
@@mayortheogalavan Actually Kevin’s last role was voicing the animated series batman in crisis on infinite earths part 3 movie. so his last role was his first. much better than whatever this shit is
Tbh, I suspect the next Batman game (assuming Rocksteady doesn't go under soon) will have us coincidentally resurrecting WW somehow along the plot. Not the point of the game, just something that happens on the story somehow.
@@OnePlayer480 Well everyone wanted a Arkham Batman Beyond game (Which they canceled for this.)but i guess it is dead now since it is set in the future.. unless they mention Wonder Woman in the game and how she is still around somehow
@@shanedaley6236honestly all the plot holes can easily be explained in future games. The story in this game wasn’t the best but people are being really dramatic about how bad it is.
The worst part is that they're super committed to making even more live service games... So we can look forward to even more steaming piles of hot garbage like this in the years to come!
what were you expecting? The game has been dead for literally months and no funding was put into it and they still had to legally provide 4 seasons of content. No company is investing money into a game that is literally dead for any reason. Plus without Kevin its kinda difficult to do anything Batman related when his voice is tied to the Batman in this game
@@blumoon131 Crazy how they just don't want to admit nor see it, given the staggering loss of this game. Well as long as they keep losing money and as long as it's not mine, it works for me.
@@TyrinealKevin is a legend but do you realize, that there are like hundreds of Batman voice actors out there, they can easily just recast the va with other ones and could do well with it.
@@leoforpezIt is still kinda insane that cloned Superman was so good hearted by nature that Diana almost made him snap back to reality. That just puts into perspective how good this Clark is.
Once again Wonder Woman getting the short end of the stick, she dies believing her friends could never be brought back and doesn't return, not even as an alternative Diana Man this feels so rushed and just a waste of time in the end, practically a stain in the story of the Arkham series timeline
Right, it’s like we have the option of the multiverse to bring her back in future stuff but I think everyone’s starting to get tired of it, and if they don’t go down that route it’s like they pretty much just sealed wonder woman’s fate of never returning in this series
But it’s comics and people have been resurrected before but we’ll just have to hope rocksteady locks tf in for their next project and hope that WB doesn’t try and butt in and ruin it
@@duchuybui2607Man that’d actually be funny. WW just looking at the screen watching her clone die a heroic death, and she’s just not sure what to feel about that
@@duchuybui2607 could they even clone her? she's made from Clay and magic not DNA. in theory the Amazons could rebuild a body for her and the goddesses simply direct her soul back into it.
Her sacrifice was for a great cause. I mean how else can they force us to accept that Harley will be her replacement in the League for their next game?
That game has literally died at launch from the controversy of the story taking place on killing all the heroes, which was also the worst ever timing for batman's voice actor to do his last role before passing, not just to a hero that died by the hands of the villians but also a hero that died in the most pathetic way possible. I haven't even played this game nor watched any full gameplay clips but seeing how they treated batman like that, that ruined my mood to even try this game at all. It was just a huge deep insult. RIP our iconic voice actor Kevin Conroy, but fuck rocksteady.
Kevin Conroy final role as Batman was in Crisis on Infinite earths part 3. He played the version he first stated with. So have peace knowing his final time as the cape crusader wasn’t this game.
The game didn't die because it was 'Kill the Justice League'. it died because it was a live service looter shooter and the story was bad. They didn't even have an animated scene for this. It wasn't the fact the League was assumed to die in this, it's that their deaths were lame and showed no respect for the characters.
@@RaxusXeronosI think this is probably the most accurate take. I still stand by the fact that this game should’ve been a survival horror game where each chapter focuses on surviving and figuring out a way to kill each member of the League while they hunt you down. Also, they probably could’ve saved themselves some controversy if they had let Batman at least die heroically. Or hell, maybe even have Jason Todd come back as Red Hood and have an emotional moment where he has to shoot Batman instead of Harley.
Game’s entire plot was leaked before they even launched the first season, this was the plan and it was worse seeing it in motion. Plus Flash’s finger was a dead giveaway the moment the clone showed up
They had to pull off the clone bullshit some how since fans were crying like babies that Batman died and yea that whole scene where flash said they have to kill the jl is worthless
I'm honestly surprised they put together a motion comic for that scrambled together ending instead of a still frame from the story with the words "CONFARTULATIONS YOU WINNER" slapped over it.
Yeah, but it was still worse than this. Basically the version of the League we were saving was supposed to be THE League and not clones. So we were supposedly going to have a humiliating Batman rescue cutscene only to trap him in a tube like a doll.
@@loganbreau882 This is so confushing cause if those were clones and not the real JL then why did Flash who got "Captured" and say "You have to K*** us Diana" if they all were just clones @.@
Look, I get why they did a cheap slideshow ending because the profit margin for this game was non existent, so it's miraculous they didn't wind up just doing it all in Microsoft paint. However, story wise that's the most half assed attempt to ret-con previous errors I've seen since The Rise Of Skywalker. They might as well have had a Dallas style moment with Harley Quinn waking up in bed and Batman stepping out of the shower to reveal it was all a dream.
People really are under playing how forced this entire ending is. This ending literally proves why you shouldn't base your entire game's story on its live service model. Wonder woman is still dead, the justice league clone thing was clearly a retcon because people got mad and the fact they believed they'd have 13 seasons is a genuine laugh with how obvious this back peddling is. "And everyone lived happy ending" isn't a satisfying conclusion. I don't care if Arkham batman is alive. I don't care if the squad got the bombs out. This game shouldn't be praised and it shouldn't be ignored. Let's be honest. This ending is a cop out. A showing how little thought actually went in. You can say I'm not saying anything new but genuinely think. They expected this game to have 12 seasons. Probably more. And it died in less then 2 and had to you all its budget to change the plot and quickly wrap up the plot. Moral of the story: if you make a game. Hell if you make anything with a narrative. Don't think you'll get more then you are given. Because the best series are ones that can tell one short good experience then a bad story that thinks it'll be long amd have an audience because it has brand recognition. This game sucks end of story.
Also i am 100% sure they planned on keeping the League dead but after the complains they got scared of their reputation and they decided to do this cinematic as their last work on the game just so we can ''Forgive them'' But you explained all that perfectly about why it is waaay to late anyway lol Maybe it is a very unpopular opinion but if they didn't made this game related at all with the Arkham verse it couldve work. But industries nowdays are so greedy they will use a name for marketing
Both you and the guy who replied to you are actual morons. Stop making conspiracy theories and do the bare minimum of research. Them coming back was leaked 2 months before the game came out.
@@HokutoNoJiHaiGieThey never planned on keeping the em dead. Several hints in game, the code and leaks before the game even came out all had the JL actually being alive.
I think that's the big guys on WB, from reports even the team doesn't like the story or gameplay or anything, like one points out why would they give boomerang a gun instead of his boomerangs
Wait, so Wonder Woman is still DEAD? Everyone else came back to life but not her? Why? The game could've easily revealed that instead of her being disintegrated by Superman, she was actually transported to Brainiac's ship. Rocksteady could've made her the final boss since she was the only Justice League member the Squad never fought. But nope, Diana's still dead (like her video game), and anyways, we have a multiverse adventure to get to!
I dont really know what's going on but hey it least brought back batman. It's ironic how the main story always tried to find ways to praise wonder woman and send her off to a more respectful death when the other 4 league members were just bashed on for no reason, until at the end the 4 league members are the only ones that survived while wonder woman is permanently dead
yes ww is really dead. There are hints that the JL we fought are clones. - Flash finger - supe didnt lose power when stabbed with kryptonite - batman only fight them with scarecrow gas I think most people know this but the casual refuse to believe so.
@@Tragedyvalyea but that could’ve been just a buff from brainiac when Superman got stabbed anyways they only did the clone thing cause of the fans crying about Batman’s death cause in trailers and interviews they never said anything about clones and I’m pretty sure one of the developers said that Batman was the one we played in the Arkham games not no damn clone
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It was but they were gonna slowly reveal it. They had 13 seasons planned, and was probably gonna reveal it at the end of season 6 or 7, but with no funding and no one buying this game, the reveal had to be cut short. I agree this game was bad, but it was surprisingly planned from the start and there was no last second decision
@Davidscomix it was designed from the beginning, they just was trying to extend this story trick by 12 Seasons of support. The only dead member of Justice League is Wonder Woman.
@@Davidscomix it was intentional when they saw the script of how the 4 justice league members die. So obviously they did it for some entertainment reasons
Still doesn't change a thing they still basterdised kevin conroys final performance even with that an ass pull like that doesnt make the whole thing better
@@Skindwalker good thing it's not his final performance, he made one last appearance in BTAS Batman in Crisis on Infinite Earths, part........2? I think?
How did they disrepect him? Did they force him to do this? Do you think Rocksteady and Conroy knew that this was one of his last performances? what is the angle here?
So the entire theme about killing the justice league meant absolutely NOTHING because they were all clones anyway Thank God this game is over with. Barely even a year after release too😭. Waste of time
Rocksteady should be sued for this. My understanding when purchasing the game initally was the campaign was only about 8 hrs but it would be a full completed story told throughout the seasons. Having a 2 min cutscene for each one is unbelievably ridiculous. They even stated at launch that Kevin Conroy had recorded much more dialogue that would be added later. That was a lie. Then they couldn't even get the other voice actors to come in so they just had Harley recite their dialogue? F Rocksteady. I don't care what they do in the future, I'm not buying it.
Kevin's lines were mostly recorded for further seasons. Adding it in season 4 probably wouldn't really make sense, but yeah they fumbled entirely when season 1 and the main story flopped
@ Gee, that's funny: "Speaking to Play Magazine, studio product director Darius Sadeghian shared his thoughts on its online features, though he shied away from calling the game live service. He explained that Rocksteady doesn’t “Think of our game as fitting with any particular label.” He promises, “new story missions, locations, gear, costumes, collectable trinkets, and more,” though the presence of gear proved contentious when the game was showcased at a Sony State of Play in February 2023." What were you saying about facts?
So you’re telling me, that Diana Prince, Amazonian Princess, daughter of Zeus, and Hypollyta, the third member of the DC Trinity, as well as the third founding member of the Justice League, GETS KILLED OFF PERMANENTLY?!?!
This is not even lazy writing; this is a new low level or writing I have never seen before.... even AEW story lines are better written than this piece of shit.
I called it from the beginning they were clones. Few people did, not saying this game was any good. They wanted to annoy white people by making everyone's favorite DC superhero Batman getting killed by an empowered woman as the modern Harley Quinn.
This is embarrassing. And to make it worse they couldn’t even be bothered to put any effort into this cutscene. They might as well just released a press statement. It would’ve been less embarrassing than this.
Rocksteady meeting for this was just: "How do we end a game that we ruined from the start with an ending that wont piss off the fans again?" "Seriously? Obviously we have to bring back the justice league and scrap literally everything we burned all our money into and convert it into a slideshow ending! Theres no way it could fail!"
remember when everyone called the game woke and gave it shit for girl power because wonder woman was the only one who was normal and still fighting now she's actually the only one who died
This is strange that Lois said goodbye to Batman. She would say this ro Superman, not Batman. They are strange to each other. I would understand if this goodbye speech was voiced by Alfred, Robin, Gordon, Jason, Catwoman, even Harley, but not like this. There is no logic
We all hate that Wonder Woman died but on the bright side now Rocksteady can force Harley into the Justice League as her replacement. A Justice League game set in the beloved Arkham universe where the Harley Quinn takes more of the spolight than Superman and Batman. Would that be great guys????
1. Still feel sad wonder man the real Wonder Woman is really gone 2. Game is so not cannon 3. Can’t believe the used the Arkham knight story with it and say he survived the house burn down and Superman saves him? Give me a break
This game was stupid. How did Batman managed to get captured by Brainaic. Batman from Arkham Series would never get caught and he was always a step ahead. His character was poorly written and his death was a slap in the face. The game sucked and shouldn’t be existed
Nope, up until the leaks happened we were led to believe we were fighting the real Justice League, while the clone bit was a theory being tossed around
I correctly guessed the clones thingy because the way the Justice League members were killed felt disrespectful to the characters and expected it to be corrected in a proper dlc, even a second part on which we play as the Justice League, get free from Brainiac's control and defeat him... instead, we get a lousy 2 minutes animation video... disgraceful from release to this moment...
Because of some small clues, the Justice League not actually being dead was teased since the launch of the game. However this still feels cheap as hell.
Does anyone remember when Wonder Woman was a highly respected member of the Justice League and had the admiration of all those who looked up to her? And this is the send off that she gets?
Indeed, he was. And what happened to MK1, NRS & WB squandered it, and nothing has changed it from falling off. Now Rocksteady shuts this trash game down since it was all for nothing.
"Hey guys, remember how we created umpteen plot holes, killed off a beloved character, and utterly wasted Kevin Conroy? Well we decided to give you a BS cop-out ending that insults your intelligence too" -Rocksteady
The fact the clones and the Justice League being alive was planned from the get go is one thing but somehow seeing it all in motion makes it so much worse. Especially when the game acts like its a surprise when the hints were so obvious it didnt take much to put two and two together. Yet it all ends with a slide show narrated by Harley, without a single ounce of looking like they cared to give a satisfying ending
So WB expected us to play this live service game over and over again to finally see this "ending". They could've just made it into a single player game and not waste our time and money.
“Hey guys. It turns out our most profitable character is still alive after taking a gunshot to the head. The reason we made this wackass decision is because we need the money due to the fact that we accidentally took a giant shit on the entire franchise”
They ended this whole thing with a slide show? They truly gave zero fucks.
They probably didn’t get the budget for anything better because they were probably counting on the live service’s success to fund this.
@gaboseries5252 'this' wasn't planned when they thought the game would be a success. They fucked it up by shooting Batman on a park bench and thought a 3 minute slideshow which literally, with a line each, explains that the team they worked with the whole Time could have deactivated the neck bombs, that Batman and the JL were cloned, and that the world just magicked itself back to normal and the JL needed a break.
Fuck that ending. It angers me to know Kevin Conroy won't be heard in a positive surrounding again. Its him I feel sorry for. We were fucked.
@@mayortheogalavan Actually Kevin’s last role was voicing the animated series batman in crisis on infinite earths part 3 movie. so his last role was his first. much better than whatever this shit is
@@jacobfaser6636his final lines went hard in that movie. “And if it has to end…..at least I go out like this…being Batman”….rest in peace Kevin….
Last minute rushed damage control.
So basically:
- WW died for nothing
- Robin is beaten terribly by the clone because he followed the REAL BATMAN'S PLANS
And we have no idea what the plan was but even if we did it doesn't sound like a really good one that batman would come up with
Tbh, I suspect the next Batman game (assuming Rocksteady doesn't go under soon) will have us coincidentally resurrecting WW somehow along the plot. Not the point of the game, just something that happens on the story somehow.
Fuck no. Retcon this whole game.@@OnePlayer480
@@OnePlayer480 Well everyone wanted a Arkham Batman Beyond game (Which they canceled for this.)but i guess it is dead now since it is set in the future.. unless they mention Wonder Woman in the game and how she is still around somehow
@@shanedaley6236honestly all the plot holes can easily be explained in future games. The story in this game wasn’t the best but people are being really dramatic about how bad it is.
Shittiest ending ever, I sincerely hope WB Never tries to make another live service game.
The worst part is that they're super committed to making even more live service games... So we can look forward to even more steaming piles of hot garbage like this in the years to come!
@@blumoon131there needs to be an alternative. Someone needs to make a dc rivals game
what were you expecting? The game has been dead for literally months and no funding was put into it and they still had to legally provide 4 seasons of content. No company is investing money into a game that is literally dead for any reason. Plus without Kevin its kinda difficult to do anything Batman related when his voice is tied to the Batman in this game
@@blumoon131 Crazy how they just don't want to admit nor see it, given the staggering loss of this game. Well as long as they keep losing money and as long as it's not mine, it works for me.
@@TyrinealKevin is a legend but do you realize, that there are like hundreds of Batman voice actors out there, they can easily just recast the va with other ones and could do well with it.
Warner Brothers back peddling so hard their ankles catch on fire.
They didn't back pedal. They were clones the entire time. This was all over the internet within the 1st month of release
@ThatRxmenGuy Yeah i remember seeing that a lot
Fr the fall off needs to be studied
@@ThatRxmenGuyNah that was when people were coping over their deaths and assumed they were weaker, but then they actually decided to go with it.
@@ThatRxmenGuyThere’s nothing in the base game that suggests they were clones.
Don't forget that Robin (Tim Drake) is still dead after this lmao
Wonder Woman too
i mean there wasn’t a body so he might be fine
You find his mask covered in blood, doesn't mean he's dead
and Lex Luthor
I'm sure he can handle a Batman clone that was stupid enough to get taken out by Harley Quinn
Wholesome superman exists in the Arkham verse, and we get him solely through Harley's mocking voice over...
Such a good Superman design wasted on a garbage game.
Didn't even get a good fight out of the clone.
Maybe we’ll get follow up comics similar to the Injustice comics.
@@leoforpezIt is still kinda insane that cloned Superman was so good hearted by nature that Diana almost made him snap back to reality. That just puts into perspective how good this Clark is.
@OnePlayer480 oh to have a justice league game with these characters instead of....this.
Too late. Almost nobody cares about this game anymore and do not consider it canon
Too true
True
It’s canon tho
Too bad your feeling and everyone else doesn’t decide canon lol
@@wizofhell Okay, that's fine. The people that don't consider it canon just won't play the game. Very simple.
"Don't you love a happy ending?"
*Not when it wasn't planned and it was a cop-out to try and make ammends with fans.*
Lmao it was very planned but ur to slow to see it flashes finger literally grew back after brainiac took him just stop being slow
It was definitely planned out it was just rushed because the game didn't last as long as planned
Love everyone saying they back pedaled. Y’all have no idea lmao
It literally was planned though. We’ve known this for like a year from the game files.
@@globottle6811not only from the files, theres the whole thing with Flash regenerating a finger
Showing that was a clone
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NO!
You got it all wrong!
Once again Wonder Woman getting the short end of the stick, she dies believing her friends could never be brought back and doesn't return, not even as an alternative Diana
Man this feels so rushed and just a waste of time in the end, practically a stain in the story of the Arkham series timeline
Right, it’s like we have the option of the multiverse to bring her back in future stuff but I think everyone’s starting to get tired of it, and if they don’t go down that route it’s like they pretty much just sealed wonder woman’s fate of never returning in this series
But it’s comics and people have been resurrected before but we’ll just have to hope rocksteady locks tf in for their next project and hope that WB doesn’t try and butt in and ruin it
Which is surreal. Wonder-woman is getting a game, and they killed her off here. They aren't connected, of course, but still, pretty messed up. 😂
the WW game in development could be her 'rebirth' in the Arkhamverse
I refuse to believe this game is in the Arkham series. It'll never be
Hippolyta: “My daughter died for this!?"
wait until it turns out she was a clone too 😂
@@duchuybui2607Man that’d actually be funny. WW just looking at the screen watching her clone die a heroic death, and she’s just not sure what to feel about that
@@duchuybui2607 could they even clone her? she's made from Clay and magic not DNA. in theory the Amazons could rebuild a body for her and the goddesses simply direct her soul back into it.
@stonerhino5035 ya but asmuch as I love them this iz warner brothers(dc)they're just a difficult company most of the time
Her sacrifice was for a great cause. I mean how else can they force us to accept that Harley will be her replacement in the League for their next game?
jesus christ even the tribute to Kevin Conroy was half-assed
I'm surprised people never bring up that when the game launched the tribute to Kevin had typos.
So Batman And Superman just sat back and watched as innocent people died and said "yeah the suicide squad got this"
Yep, and they watched how some clones ruin their reputation :D
They also watched wonder women died too
There were prisoned by braniac
@@jjjx5699 Yeah, yeah and it was whole Batman's plan... still shiat plot and bad writing.
@ which was apparently apart of his plan
And they said batman would actually return
He did.
Except this isnt the real ending where hes swinging off the rooftop and this sceen never plays out. This person hot a bad ending
This is still officially canon to the game.
@@AidanFarren-Hartsuicide Squad KTJL isn’t canon
@Clonehelmethole you don't decide what is and isn't canon. The arkham games are referenced at the beginning
That game has literally died at launch from the controversy of the story taking place on killing all the heroes, which was also the worst ever timing for batman's voice actor to do his last role before passing, not just to a hero that died by the hands of the villians but also a hero that died in the most pathetic way possible.
I haven't even played this game nor watched any full gameplay clips but seeing how they treated batman like that, that ruined my mood to even try this game at all. It was just a huge deep insult.
RIP our iconic voice actor Kevin Conroy, but fuck rocksteady.
Kevin Conroy final role as Batman was in Crisis on Infinite earths part 3. He played the version he first stated with. So have peace knowing his final time as the cape crusader wasn’t this game.
@minilopgamer1950 it was also a scene with Hamil's version of the Joker. 😢
Lmao fuck your mood 😂😂😂😂
The game didn't die because it was 'Kill the Justice League'. it died because it was a live service looter shooter and the story was bad. They didn't even have an animated scene for this. It wasn't the fact the League was assumed to die in this, it's that their deaths were lame and showed no respect for the characters.
@@RaxusXeronosI think this is probably the most accurate take. I still stand by the fact that this game should’ve been a survival horror game where each chapter focuses on surviving and figuring out a way to kill each member of the League while they hunt you down. Also, they probably could’ve saved themselves some controversy if they had let Batman at least die heroically. Or hell, maybe even have Jason Todd come back as Red Hood and have an emotional moment where he has to shoot Batman instead of Harley.
WB and Rocksteady can deny it all they want but we all know that this was just a last minute retcon to save their own asses
Game’s entire plot was leaked before they even launched the first season, this was the plan and it was worse seeing it in motion. Plus Flash’s finger was a dead giveaway the moment the clone showed up
Can’t believe they killed Wonder Woman, and had that emotional scene with the flash and her, for NOTHING!!!
They had to pull off the clone bullshit some how since fans were crying like babies that Batman died and yea that whole scene where flash said they have to kill the jl is worthless
I'm honestly surprised they put together a motion comic for that scrambled together ending instead of a still frame from the story with the words "CONFARTULATIONS YOU WINNER" slapped over it.
"CONFARTULATIONS"
If you read the new Harley Quinn comic you'd know how close this hits
So the leaks were correct the whole time
Duh
Yeah, but it was still worse than this. Basically the version of the League we were saving was supposed to be THE League and not clones. So we were supposedly going to have a humiliating Batman rescue cutscene only to trap him in a tube like a doll.
Have you paid attention to the previous seasons, you saved Flash and Green Lantern.
@ Well, I did because I wanted to see how it would end not surprised at all.
@@loganbreau882 This is so confushing cause if those were clones and not the real JL then why did Flash who got "Captured" and say "You have to K*** us Diana" if they all were just clones @.@
It dosen't matter, they disrespected Kevin Conroy's legacy as the best Batman in the worst possible way.
No they didnt
This has nothing to do with Kevin, he agreed to do this. You could make a case for the character though
Don’t get me started on how they did him in crisis on infinite earths where he was beaten by batwoman of all people.
@ He was bloody 60 and crippled dude.
Did you not see the ending of this video they where very respectful
Look, I get why they did a cheap slideshow ending because the profit margin for this game was non existent, so it's miraculous they didn't wind up just doing it all in Microsoft paint. However, story wise that's the most half assed attempt to ret-con previous errors I've seen since The Rise Of Skywalker. They might as well have had a Dallas style moment with Harley Quinn waking up in bed and Batman stepping out of the shower to reveal it was all a dream.
People really are under playing how forced this entire ending is. This ending literally proves why you shouldn't base your entire game's story on its live service model. Wonder woman is still dead, the justice league clone thing was clearly a retcon because people got mad and the fact they believed they'd have 13 seasons is a genuine laugh with how obvious this back peddling is.
"And everyone lived happy ending" isn't a satisfying conclusion. I don't care if Arkham batman is alive. I don't care if the squad got the bombs out. This game shouldn't be praised and it shouldn't be ignored.
Let's be honest. This ending is a cop out. A showing how little thought actually went in. You can say I'm not saying anything new but genuinely think. They expected this game to have 12 seasons. Probably more. And it died in less then 2 and had to you all its budget to change the plot and quickly wrap up the plot.
Moral of the story: if you make a game. Hell if you make anything with a narrative. Don't think you'll get more then you are given. Because the best series are ones that can tell one short good experience then a bad story that thinks it'll be long amd have an audience because it has brand recognition.
This game sucks end of story.
Also i am 100% sure they planned on keeping the League dead but after the complains they got scared of their reputation and they decided to do this cinematic as their last work on the game just so we can ''Forgive them''
But you explained all that perfectly about why it is waaay to late anyway lol
Maybe it is a very unpopular opinion but if they didn't made this game related at all with the Arkham verse it couldve work. But industries nowdays are so greedy they will use a name for marketing
Both you and the guy who replied to you are actual morons. Stop making conspiracy theories and do the bare minimum of research. Them coming back was leaked 2 months before the game came out.
Bro is fighting his shadow demons NOBODY thinks this is a good ending 😂
@@HokutoNoJiHaiGieThey never planned on keeping the em dead. Several hints in game, the code and leaks before the game even came out all had the JL actually being alive.
Can't believe how Rocksteady fumbled so hard.
More like rock bottom
To be fair the original creative Arkham team was already gone by the time this came out. And it showed
I think that's the big guys on WB, from reports even the team doesn't like the story or gameplay or anything, like one points out why would they give boomerang a gun instead of his boomerangs
Wait, so Wonder Woman is still DEAD? Everyone else came back to life but not her? Why? The game could've easily revealed that instead of her being disintegrated by Superman, she was actually transported to Brainiac's ship. Rocksteady could've made her the final boss since she was the only Justice League member the Squad never fought. But nope, Diana's still dead (like her video game), and anyways, we have a multiverse adventure to get to!
I dont really know what's going on but hey it least brought back batman. It's ironic how the main story always tried to find ways to praise wonder woman and send her off to a more respectful death when the other 4 league members were just bashed on for no reason, until at the end the 4 league members are the only ones that survived while wonder woman is permanently dead
yes ww is really dead.
There are hints that the JL we fought are clones.
- Flash finger
- supe didnt lose power when stabbed with kryptonite
- batman only fight them with scarecrow gas
I think most people know this but the casual refuse to believe so.
@@Tragedyvalyea but that could’ve been just a buff from brainiac when Superman got stabbed anyways they only did the clone thing cause of the fans crying about Batman’s death cause in trailers and interviews they never said anything about clones and I’m pretty sure one of the developers said that Batman was the one we played in the Arkham games not no damn clone
WW was killed so Harley could be her replacement for the league
@@Tragedyval The real Flash also has all his fingers in place.
would have preferred a hand written apology
Breaking news:
After Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League officially stops getting support, Warner announces that Rocksteady is already working on their new DC live service looter shooter game, Creature Commandos: Kill the Teen Titans. They implied, that the game will feature heavy changes on the core gameplay that Suicide Squad had, to match player feedbacks, and give the best possible DC experience.
Lmao
somehow BATMAN RETURNED!!!!!
You know it wasn’t planned when they use a comic book style cutscene.
It literally was though.. all the leaks have been saying this for almost a year.
It was but they were gonna slowly reveal it. They had 13 seasons planned, and was probably gonna reveal it at the end of season 6 or 7, but with no funding and no one buying this game, the reveal had to be cut short. I agree this game was bad, but it was surprisingly planned from the start and there was no last second decision
Bruce be like: "Dammit Diana. The one time I needed you to be captured/mind-controlled was the one time you didn't."
What was the point of the game if they are all alive
Wonder woman is hella dead tho 😂
@@Xarhs_Tsioukardanis-LR I meant the ones who got corrupted
The point was to not upset fans but they were too late
@Davidscomix it was designed from the beginning, they just was trying to extend this story trick by 12 Seasons of support. The only dead member of Justice League is Wonder Woman.
@@Davidscomix it was intentional when they saw the script of how the 4 justice league members die. So obviously they did it for some entertainment reasons
*"That's okay, no one's every really gone."*
-Red letter media
Also, thanks SBI for absolutely stellar writing.
"How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames"
"Feels great"
Wonder Woman and Robin: 😔
i hope tara gets replaced as harley quinn or at least changes how she voices the character
ugh
my ears
Thank God they didn't kill the real Batman but his clone 🙏🥲
They still killed the good will tho.
@@li-limandragon9287Yep
The damage is done
Still doesn't change a thing they still basterdised kevin conroys final performance even with that an ass pull like that doesnt make the whole thing better
@@Skindwalker good thing it's not his final performance, he made one last appearance in BTAS Batman in Crisis on Infinite Earths, part........2? I think?
Wonder Woman is still dead btw. A "happy ending"
This game is still pointless, nobody cares about it anymore, they ruined the Arkhamverse and disrespected Kevin Conroy's legacy
Crybaby bitch ass 😂😂😂. It RuInEd HiS lEgAcY" stfu. He agreed to do it. So in theory he ruined it by taking the fuckin job...
No they didn’t
They definitely stained the arkham verse but not ruined
@@KingOfTheTrolls Stop defending a garbage of a game
How did they disrepect him? Did they force him to do this? Do you think Rocksteady and Conroy knew that this was one of his last performances? what is the angle here?
Disgusting quite frankly, this entire bullshit debacle rendered utterly pointless and Tara giving us her very worst Harley as a final sendoff.
So the entire theme about killing the justice league meant absolutely NOTHING because they were all clones anyway
Thank God this game is over with. Barely even a year after release too😭. Waste of time
Tbf, Wonder Woman, the character they were worshipping all the game, did get gg'ed in a sacrifice that, quite literally, was for nothing XD
@emilianosainz6315 lmfao and the ss didn't even kill her it was clone superman, what a joke
This is actually a good premise
Rocksteady should be sued for this. My understanding when purchasing the game initally was the campaign was only about 8 hrs but it would be a full completed story told throughout the seasons. Having a 2 min cutscene for each one is unbelievably ridiculous. They even stated at launch that Kevin Conroy had recorded much more dialogue that would be added later. That was a lie. Then they couldn't even get the other voice actors to come in so they just had Harley recite their dialogue? F Rocksteady. I don't care what they do in the future, I'm not buying it.
rocksteady never said that, it was leakers who did lmfao get ur facts straight
Kevin's lines were mostly recorded for further seasons. Adding it in season 4 probably wouldn't really make sense, but yeah they fumbled entirely when season 1 and the main story flopped
sued for not pleasing the fans lol ok 😂
@@Kmaleonthat’s exactly why they are losers. Couldn’t even make something good.
@ Gee, that's funny: "Speaking to Play Magazine, studio product director Darius Sadeghian shared his thoughts on its online features, though he shied away from calling the game live service. He explained that Rocksteady doesn’t “Think of our game as fitting with any particular label.” He promises, “new story missions, locations, gear, costumes, collectable trinkets, and more,” though the presence of gear proved contentious when the game was showcased at a Sony State of Play in February 2023." What were you saying about facts?
To be fair, I’ll give them this:
This is, in fact, a good retcon.
Gonna take half a decade for people to MAYBE forgive them.
It's not a retcon tho...
@The clones were acting weirdly emotional to each other at times.
@DanialTarki they were clones. They shared the same memories and emotional bonds as the originals
pbh i guess
Honestly i got to ask who was stupid enough to think that the Justice League would actually STAY dead. My money was on clones the whole time.
yo apostaba por un flashpoint jajajaja
RIP Kevin Conroy.
Making this game not matter AT ALL was the best decision they've made in years
Arkamverse ended when the batman died, the first time
So you’re telling me, that Diana Prince, Amazonian Princess, daughter of Zeus, and Hypollyta, the third member of the DC Trinity, as well as the third founding member of the Justice League, GETS KILLED OFF PERMANENTLY?!?!
Well..Tim's dead too
Oh yes
I was expecting a better reaction from the squad. Especially from Deadshot as he discovered he never really killed Batman
This is not even lazy writing; this is a new low level or writing I have never seen before.... even AEW story lines are better written than this piece of shit.
I swear to god that Rocksteady was brainwashed by Brainiac into making this game as awful as possible.
If only they did this at the start too late now
Also with a cutscene, not a motion comic.
I called it from the beginning they were clones. Few people did, not saying this game was any good. They wanted to annoy white people by making everyone's favorite DC superhero Batman getting killed by an empowered woman as the modern Harley Quinn.
This was in fact the plan from the start
@@mr_valor3903If that’s the case why wasn’t it included in the base game?
There’s just no pleasing you people
This is embarrassing. And to make it worse they couldn’t even be bothered to put any effort into this cutscene. They might as well just released a press statement. It would’ve been less embarrassing than this.
Why end it with a comic?
cinematic cgi are too expensive for them
there’s like 3 people with the budget of a popsicle stick that were still working on it at that point 💀
Budget wise I guess, but what if they probably used most of it for lawless and ms freeze? Instead only giving a very short one to deathstroke
Cheap. And also no Conroy. But mainly cheap
Blame the DEI. They cause a lot a budget ya know.
rockstar wasted Kevin Conroys last performance on this piece of shit game and i could never forgive them for that.
looks like chatgpt pro would have done somewhat better
Rocksteady meeting for this was just:
"How do we end a game that we ruined from the start with an ending that wont piss off the fans again?"
"Seriously? Obviously we have to bring back the justice league and scrap literally everything we burned all our money into and convert it into a slideshow ending! Theres no way it could fail!"
remember when everyone called the game woke and gave it shit for girl power because wonder woman was the only one who was normal and still fighting
now she's actually the only one who died
This is strange that Lois said goodbye to Batman. She would say this ro Superman, not Batman. They are strange to each other. I would understand if this goodbye speech was voiced by Alfred, Robin, Gordon, Jason, Catwoman, even Harley, but not like this. There is no logic
Rip kevin conroy.
In silverlining while the game was bad and batman didnt die its bittersweet batman survived.
Guess they just forgot about Diana. That feels kinda sexist that she's the only member who actually died
Abomination of a game with an abomination of an ending
So if you run into dead ends with a story just do multiverse and cloning magic - gotcha.
We all hate that Wonder Woman died but on the bright side now Rocksteady can force Harley into the Justice League as her replacement. A Justice League game set in the beloved Arkham universe where the Harley Quinn takes more of the spolight than Superman and Batman. Would that be great guys????
So they essentially did a Sonic 06
Does that make Wonder Woman Blaze?
@@FireLight_Zero She blazed alright
Imagine do it so bad than you have to say "Fuck it, it was a dream bro" and pretend nothing happens
‘’Everyone knew his voice” now that does make me wanna cry a little
This ending should be studied on HOW BAD it is
There's going to be lots of UA-camrs doing just that. Wait and see...
"Somehow....Batman returned."
What a fucking waste of an ending. This game is garbage. I saw it on sale for $5 and even that was too much.
But at least the batman is alive
We don't mind pretending this game never existed
Honestly that's all i care about is seeing (Batman Alive)
even in trying to fix it they still take a dig.. why would the justice league need to atone for what Brainiac did with clones of them. nonsense.
So the only ome who died os wonder woman 😂
1. Still feel sad wonder man the real Wonder Woman is really gone
2. Game is so not cannon
3. Can’t believe the used the Arkham knight story with it and say he survived the house burn down and Superman saves him? Give me a break
This game was stupid. How did Batman managed to get captured by Brainaic. Batman from Arkham Series would never get caught and he was always a step ahead. His character was poorly written and his death was a slap in the face. The game sucked and shouldn’t be existed
The Dark Knight has returned………
Somehow.
I'm wheezing at how much they butchered this sorry excuse of a game to the very end. 😂😂😂😂
Didn’t they say from the beginning they were clones? I recall hearing that when the game first came out
Nope, up until the leaks happened we were led to believe we were fighting the real Justice League, while the clone bit was a theory being tossed around
I correctly guessed the clones thingy because the way the Justice League members were killed felt disrespectful to the characters and expected it to be corrected in a proper dlc, even a second part on which we play as the Justice League, get free from Brainiac's control and defeat him... instead, we get a lousy 2 minutes animation video... disgraceful from release to this moment...
Unbelievable, they backpedaled so completely it might as well not even have existed. This is so getting ignored if they make another Arkham game.
The only reason they did this is because the fans forced them to
"And so, the entire Justice League was saved by, ohhh, let's just say... Moe."
The game couldn’t even last a year 💀
Way better than concord still
Because of some small clues, the Justice League not actually being dead was teased since the launch of the game. However this still feels cheap as hell.
So why did Batman let wonder woman die?
Suicide Squad: Kill Clones of the Justice League
Does anyone remember when Wonder Woman was a highly respected member of the Justice League and had the admiration of all those who looked up to her? And this is the send off that she gets?
Demigah was fucking right...
True shit 💀
Demigah is trash
Indeed, he was. And what happened to MK1, NRS & WB squandered it, and nothing has changed it from falling off. Now Rocksteady shuts this trash game down since it was all for nothing.
So they invalidated their own story beat
well than maybe we can get that superman game now, right?
Should have been a heroes v villains shooter. Oh well , we're vibing w Marvel Rivals now 🤷♂️
"Hey guys, remember how we created umpteen plot holes, killed off a beloved character, and utterly wasted Kevin Conroy? Well we decided to give you a BS cop-out ending that insults your intelligence too"
-Rocksteady
IT'S TOO LATE THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE
They just gone all the way and revealed the entire game was a dream.
Motion comic cutscenes are always a cheap sign they ran out of money to pay anyone to animate an actual cutscene😂
The fact the clones and the Justice League being alive was planned from the get go is one thing but somehow seeing it all in motion makes it so much worse. Especially when the game acts like its a surprise when the hints were so obvious it didnt take much to put two and two together. Yet it all ends with a slide show narrated by Harley, without a single ounce of looking like they cared to give a satisfying ending
So the real Wonder Woman died for clones?
This screams the devs backtracking.
Also Robin, Alfred and the Batfamily were killed by a Batman clone
Holy shit I thought people were kidding. I didn't think they'd somehow dig further
So WB expected us to play this live service game over and over again to finally see this "ending". They could've just made it into a single player game and not waste our time and money.
i have to assume if the wonderwoman game ever does actually come out it'll be about her ressurecting or something
The Batman Arkham is alive ❤❤❤❤
“Hey guys. It turns out our most profitable character is still alive after taking a gunshot to the head. The reason we made this wackass decision is because we need the money due to the fact that we accidentally took a giant shit on the entire franchise”
This whole ending was basically the writers going, "You can safely ignore everything that happened in this game."
The only good thing about this is that Waller gets hers in the end.
Is this a recent retcon or was this part of the game all the time?