Sony FE 85mm F1.8 vs Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 Field Test (In Thailand!)
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- The Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 is one of our favourite lenses for Sony's mirrorless cameras, so we were surprised to see Sony launch their own 85mm F1.8 last month. On a recent trip to see Sony's Thailand factory, we decided to shoot out these two great lenses. Is the Zeiss Batis worth paying twice as much for?
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Shot and edited by Jordan Drake
Shot on the Sony A6500, A7R II & Panasonic GH5
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I don't think there is a more likable duo for camera reviews than Chris and Jordan. I watch reviews for gear that I am not even interested in.
I agree. I love these guys.
this was my first lens ever, and as a beginner I didn't know how to use it properly. Now after shooting for a year and a half I have decided to purchase this lens again, and while watching this video I am jumping out of my seat at these shots and my good decision making in revisiting this old friend. It comes in tomorrow, cannot wait.
Great video, particularly the parts with me in it.
I think it was between your portrait and elephant shot at 6:10 for best shot.
Gordon Laing .
Those parts were so good, I had to loosen my pants. Wait, what?
Both look like amazing lenses, but I can clearly see the Zeiss has greater color saturation and contrast and a slightly warmer rendering which I like. But besides that, they look so close in rendering that you could flip a coin and be very happy. Thanks for the review!
In the side by side photos, I did notice a difference. the Zeiss was sharper and warmer color (as you mentioned). I did like it much better than the Sony, but would I pay double? No way.
For my A7R3 I bought first the Sony. Sold it when I saw a great deal for second hand batis. Paid 150$ more, but got stabilization and weather resistance. And to my eye a bit of more lens contrast.
V PR do you ever actually use the weather sealing though?
7:46 top to bottom the whole left side, the Batis gives more detailed and sharp image and also, the portraits shows that the Batis has more natural tone to the skin. Add to it the weather sealing and image stabilizer, it really makes up for double the price, because in certain conditions one might end up not being able to use the Sony lens at all due to weather condition or as you yourself mentioned: a bumpy ride. Theoretically there may not be a huge difference, but in real life it may be huge depending on the situation.
6:10 one of the best example shot on the Channel :D
SooGehts don't know what happened to Chris, but his photos on this episode are fantastic
National Geographic worthy image
I wanted to say the same!
thought the same exact thing
came lookin for this comment, was not disappointed
3:14 - Hi there Chelsea Northrup! 😂
6:14 aaaaand howdy to Tony Northup! 🤣
The color of the Batis is a lot better. Warmer I should say. and the contrast looks better to me.
Over a year later and yeah the Skin tones are more natural to my eye on the Batis. Also more Micro Contrast.
Just shoot raw and color correct in post.
@@beyondestination extra work & waste time..
Guys, I love your videos and this one is no exception. I've got the 85mm f1.4 GM lens already, but this was great information. More than anything...I was thoroughly impressed by the images showcased in this video. Seriously some awesome work here! Bravo
I have been using the Sony 85mm f/1.8 on both APSC and full frame Sony mirrorless cameras since it was introduced and I just love it. It is great for portraits on both crop and full frame and also makes a nice lightweight combination on a crop format camera with the Sigma 18-50mm f/1.8 lens. The 122.5 mm equivalent meshes quite well with the 27-75mm equivalent of the Sigma. I am not a great fan of UWA lenses and the Sigma fills my needs in that area while the 85mm is a decent mid range zoom on a crop format camera. I use the 85mm on the Sony A7iii and on the A6600 and I do not miss stabilization in that lens.
3:15 is that Chelsea????
I am a simple man...I see Chelsea, I hit Like!
One of my favourite camera channels. Great work guys! Sony 85mm FE looks good for its price.
Just went to the Banff Mountain Film Festival World Tour yesterday (in Costa Mesa, California), and saw the Camera Store sponsorship. Its awesome that you guys sponsor things like that, not to mention providing these fantastic videos and review, and for free no less! Keep up the great work, and keep the passion in what you do!
Helping with Banff Mountain Film Fest Adventure Filmmaking Workshop is always one of the highlights of my year! Glad you checked out the festival tour, there were some great films last year!
Jordan @ TCSTV
My copy is with the Courier! Will be here on Tuesday woo!! Going to do a little Q&A if anyone has any question about the lens not answered here?!
I'd rather save $600 since they look so similar
i was literally just looking for a comparison of these lenses and then u guys make one. wow. u guys are great thanks.
Big fan of your camera review, love to see you in my country.👍
I've always wanted to own a Zeiss, there's this kudos with the brand. I'm also a realist. I have to pay bills. Just got my A7ii and the FE85mm f1.8 hit the shop the same day. I'm so glad that I'm not relinquishing iq with this. Great comparison.
Epic foreshadowing 6:36
what if I can pick up a batis for 600? should i do it?
wow! a trip to Thailand one the most beautiful places to shoot in you guys weren't prepared. What a bummer. 😕
2:71 is a classic :D , great work guys!
Thanks for the review! Look at the shine on the eyes, the Batis is substantially sharper: 7:38
The Focus Lock button made me choose for the Sony 1,8/85mm. Makes the difference in a lot of shots. Will add the new Sony 1,8/35mm to my collection asap for the same reason. What a wonderfull lightweight three lens set that will be, together with the Zeiss 1,8/55mm Sonnar.
I wonder why I like your reviews so much even though I'm not looking for a camera/lens to replace my D7100 with 18-140mm 3.something - 5.6 ED
Had similar problem at grand palace. Only a 50mm on and aps-c .. at some point in the day you decide to just take in the view yourself and make a pledge to return someday in the future with a wide angle.
Batis is a fantastic lens. Love mine.
love it as well, it's a modern classic.
I'm glad you come. Welcome to Thailand. Hope you enjoy here.
3:46 That's a great smile, glad it was caught on more than just a selfie.
3.14minute from tony and chelsea channel?? Woow u found them
think so! shes lovely! ;-)
I see negligible difference between the Sony and the Zeiss. I think unless one is a brand lover, Sony 85 mm is perfect specially when the quality is similar.
i could listen to you talk about lenses all night long.
Super pro video! Great comparison shots. In the real world the Sony 85 1.8 seems to be the way to go. Keep up the great tech reviews.
6:16 that hair got be Tony
"This episode was shot on the Sony A6500, A7R II & Panasonic GH5" - and average viewer just wet his pants.
Thanks for a great review. I am looking at the Sony 55 mm lens and you have helped me to decide that this is going to be my next lens for my ArR II. Love your very professional videos!
I thought the Batis was a touch sharper, but unless you have the dollars I would go Sony. I did read at one point, as far as portrait photography is concerned the eye detect AF only works on Sony lenses, please correct me if I am wrong.
Hey guys thanks for the review and great meeting you on the Thailand trip. I know what lens i will be getting.
Chris, I am not sure. But, when you said "Muay Thai", your Thai accent was very good. It's like you know how to speak Thai.
Welcome to Bangkok! Didn't expect to see you here!
Quality review, looking at one of these to go with my new A6500 Sony to use on my UA-cam channel ;)
Good job! Going to get the FE after seeing your review.
one thing to note is the sony quality control. My personal nightmare with the FE 35 f/1.4 Zeiss and other complaints about sample variations of even their G-master lens have pushed me away from considering sony lenses. I am using mostly batis lenses and a sigma 35 now and their quality control has never let me down. Knocked my batis 85 a few times on hard surfaces, still sharp as new.
Great review and great images. I love all the videos you guys make!
Welcome! Good to see you in Thailand!
Very cool you guys got to come out here. Love the video as always
Would be nice if this video have these 2 as comparison.. feat. GM 85 1.4 too.
I have the 85 GM and I love it.
Nonetheless.. Thanks for sharing and have a good time in Thailand !
Damm!! My favorite camera was actually assembled in my country! Didn't know that before! Anyways hope you guys enjoyed Thailand!
Welcome to Thailand! Hope you guys are liking it here. How long will you be here?
Well, how about that, In my own back yard, I've been following your channel (from BKK) for years, Would have been super to meet you
Zeiss colors looked better in every comparison, still really close lenses. Tbh the more I look at current f1.8 85mm lenses the less f1.4 or above make sense to me
Did you take a peek at 4:48? I saw your eyes flow down then up and smirk!
3:14 Chelsea
I find it strange that you will not occupy the f2.8 / f4 foals that are usually the sweet points of these lenses so that it reaches its maximum quality from the center to the corners and something
Do you still in Bangkok ? I'm a big fan from Thailand
Best YT channel about gear out there guys. Congrats :)
The Batis looks a bit sharper and the difference is clearly visible to my eyes viewing this compressed/processed video. No straining required, and the Batis has shown much better control of chromatic aberrations. Now is that amount of improvement and the addition of image stabilization worth the difference? Depends on your pocketbook, the Sony lens is a tempting alternative.
the sony 85mm is allegedly sharper.
I agree if you look at 8;24 the image near the forehead you can see more detail in and around the beauty mark
The focus point is different between the two lenses. Looks to me like the Sony is focused on her left eye (the one on the right) whereas the Zeiss is focused more on the nose or forehead. So it's hard to compare using those two images.
@Foto4Max Yes it IS sharper. Look at the hair on the top of the head and the eyebrows @ 7:03
The Zeiss is definitely sharper.
I just got zeiss batis 85mm 1.8 yesterday for 600$ in a pristine condition..
Timeline 7:03 I see the difference if you were to look closer and see the model forehead and around the forehead, it's a bit soft and less details and sharpness, on the Sony FE 85. But feel that there is a slight lost in contrast. Also Timeline 8:22 the same. FE is slightly soft at the forehead and lost of sharpness and details on the hair.
It's not out of focus, if you look closer you can see the eyes are in focus, as i said before a bit soft
@@ThePandaPhotographer maybe because the model's head is slightly tilted back in the FE picture (look at her nose- slightly pointed more up). I can def see the color difference. Is it worth the price difference to you? I nobody's pro but surprised at the slight difference based on price.
More contrast in the Batis, as evidenced in the skin tones close up.
I’m going to buy the sony 85mm why buy the batis when save me half the price when performance iq is the same . Thanks for showing the video help me to choose the lens .
Welcome to Thailand! I love your show. Big fan 💜 If you do a meet and greet, I'm sure lots of us would definitely go see you.
If sony keep producing these bargain lenses, more people will switch from canon and nikon to sony.
9:14 iso 10?
Oh I see, bitch.
don't go breaking bad on the guy.. :) jesse
theizza68 When I show someone all the advantages of A7R2, they already switch, HA! But yes, more under $1000 lenses will certainly help. (And not super heavy)
No mittens? Love your work. Great to see the setting change
awesome video , can you compare it to G master 85mm F1.4 ?
I purchased the Batis but would buy the Sony today for my a7r2. I think the digital readout on the Batis is a waste of time and I never use it. I'd like the assignable button to eye AF and the ability to switch the MF on the lens.
This video was absolutely beautiful.
Great video with a nice pace to it! Thanks a lot!
sir how can i use this lens for my sony a58..
you speak the Thai name so clear. like muaythai and cholburi.
Excellent review as always. Thank you guys
Thanks for the video!
Confused sometimes: You should have put the camera you used on the images stills, as you did with the speed, ISO, ....
Hi TCS - SONY A99II REVIEW PLEASE
I already have two 85's I'm pretty happy with. But the new one from Sony should be good news for a7 shooters.
You're my idol, if there are chance to see you before you leave thailand.
Another awesome review. Can you compare it (or both) with Nikon 85mm 1.8 G lens? I am really curious how (relatively) old Nikon G lens performs against new Sony-Zeiss.
Why not just stick a rode videomicro on top of the camera? No need for the whole XLR setup
I wish Sony does something like 85 mm in the wide angle range. A Sony lens for 600 bucks of 16 mm or 18 mm would be gold.
Awesome review! Thank you
Still interesting in 2023🎉
but are they better than Tamron 85mm F1.8 VC USD?
Not really germane, as Tamron does not make that for Sony e-mount.
I think he's alluding to the fact that the Batis is (for all intents and purposes) the e-mount version of the Tamron. We can also compare a Scion FRS (Toyota 86) to a Subura BRZ ;-)
I am a moron when it comes to cars, so that reference is way over my head. But the Batis and Tamron are different internal designs...external as well.
Wow! You're in Thailand right now? Really wanna see you.
If all A7 are manufactured there why do we have American versions and U.K. Versions of these cameras? Just asking. Thx
What about the Sigma Art 85mm? How does this compare? Side note: i already own the sigma adapter for Sony.
0:40 - It's 6 months away, and bigger than anything they have offered previously.
4:42 - Ouch, that's gotta hurt. 😹
ยินดีต้อนรับ สู่ประเทศไทยครับ welcome to thailand
Im a big fan from Thailand too! Did not know you were here T^T
Right on..thanks!
Welcome to Thailand... big fan...
love the content, love the music, great stuff
How long are you guys going to be in Thailand? Would like to meet you guys there if you guys have some time next week.
Chris, are you still in Thailand? Anyway, have a good time overthere.
How on earth is focus-by-wire a feature? Especially for video?
welcome to thailand .
you may tack a photo at chiangmai.
Hey guys, big fan, anywho, what would you recommend? I do primarily weddings and portrait work but I’m torn. I like the 1.8 of this lens however I can cover more of a range with the new Sony 24-105 f/4. What would you do @thecamerastoretv ?
Hi Chris thanks so much for this review, it would be amazing if you could compare the Zeiss batis prime lenses with the new Nikon S primes (24-35-50-85) all the best !
fthprod photo-video i agree!
Watching the review, the thought occurred that I could have turned off the audio and made an expert comparison. "Expert" based on a professional photographer's lifelong habit (well, since 1966) of discounting the numbers when one lens clearly makes better-looking photos. When I buy lenses I'm weighing the "look," even more than convenience. E.g., to my eyes, photos taken with a Canon 135mm F2 look far better than anything I would take with any Canon 70-200 or 70-300 zoom. So unless the situation absolutely requires a zoom (school classroom, sports, meetings), I'll pick the 135 every time. In the review, I thought the photos taken with the Zeiss were much more interesting - given a very limited sample, the lens seems to have much better microcontrast resulting in people pics that are richer and more human. Just my 2 cents.