I picked up a Batis that was purchased and never used for $800, & I am VERY happy I did. I love the color rendition, the pop, and accurate solid focus. 2 things that put me over the edge initially were the excellent weather sealing, and the image stabilization . . . but WOW, the image quality is NUTS ! Great lens, can't go wrong with either.
just picked up the zeiss. was back and forth with the GM but the weight was my deciding factor. When hiking that extra pound would be killer. Great video
Know this is an older video but I bought the Batis in 2015 which was two years ahead of the Sony 85/1.8. As simple as that. Bought the Sony 85/1.4 GM in late 2016. Again before the f/1.8 was available since 85mm was a key focal length to me after owning the Canon EF 85mm f/1.2 L II. Now also own the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L. Waiting on Sony for an f/1.2 as well. Thank you and take care.
For Toy shots, Zeiss 85 has more contrast to show the texture and details of the timber. Sony 85 F1.8 is sharp, but not much contrast and the colour is a bit light.
I wonder that it is only very few that think of a macro lens to compare with other short tele lenses, I have used 60, 90 and 100mm macros for 24x36mm (fullframe) format and 120mm macro for 6x6 format for many years, macro lenses are so very good allround lenses and also perfect for portrait ! Right now I use Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, Sony Zeiss Sonnar 55mm 1.8, Leica R 60mm Macro-Elmarit 2.8, Tamron SP 90mm 2.5 Macro Adaptall-2 52B and Sony 135mm 1.8 GM plus many more lenses that I use less frequent. At the moment there are none new lenses in 60 to 100mm primes that I think is good enough for my use !
They both autofocus at the same speed with no hunting at all, especially if you have the focus area set perfectly for your scenario - virtually no difference between the two. However, the FE might have a slight edge overall only because you can toggle back and forth between auto and manual super quickly, making it a little more versatile.
@@stevenstevensteven4 My pleasure. And thanks for watching! The Batis is the one I kept due to the color and depth rendering and its amazing detail. I use it on every shoot.
I think the resale is actually quite similar for both since they're both pretty well sought-after. I sold the FE for just under $500 recently. The picture quality of the Zeiss can't be beat, though.
@@MattJackson_UA-cam Great. Then I'll keep an eye on deals for the Batis 85mm. I hope I can get it for $800. That's how much I paid for my Batis 25mm last year, right before the Christmas.
@@Loachie90 I saw it at night when I was in bed. I didn't buy it immediately and next day the offer was gone. I got my 25 batis last year around this time for $800. Hopefully they reduce the price again.
Well I have the Sony 85 1.8 but have just bought the Batis. Looking forward to testing it out and selling the Sony. The Sony is good but found the colours a little muted
Yeah but now a days most of the Sony cameras have image stabilization in them already, So is it really that much of a difference? It’s better that the camera has IS more then the lens!
@@GLIMPSE_00 While it's true that the Batis line comes from an age with less IBIS camera's, it is not true that IBIS is better than OSS. The sensor can only move so much and hence, IBIS is very useful for shorter focal lengths, while OSS is a major benefit for longer ones. It's not coincidence that when mounting an OSS lens to an A7iii, the camera will utilise both IBIS and OSS as a single hybrid system, and that the 70-200GM and 100-400GM have OSS for those exact benefits.
A friend is selling his Batis 85 1.8 lens, but I just bought the Sony one. Great review, from my point of view the Batis is indeed better. I loved the pictures coming out of that lens more, but the 400 extra is the dealbreaker for me. Thanks, keep on making great videos!
Selling my sigma 85 DG DN for the batis. I also have used the sony. The flare, the weight, and the OS makes it a winner. For sharpness go with the sigma.
thanks for this, as I'm trying to choose. I really cannot see any difference between these two in terms of IQ. It's really hard to see any additional pop from the Zeiss in this. Thanks for the vid
"That Zeiss look is a real thing.". It took me a lot of sceptical years and experience to know what that means. Years in which slowly, but surely, sharpness, overcorrected CA and "soft round bokeh balls" have taken back seat to lively DoF transitions, beautiful color separation and contrast, artistic/lively/non-distracting bokeh patterns, and small form factor. You know, basically every lens property that is NOT scored on DXO. Every lens is a compromise and I think the 85 Batis more than the others, weighed "art" the heaviest in that compromise.
Thank you! And thank you for the suggestion - working on fantastic audio balance for all devices is something I'm excited to get better at - thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video! My Name is Michael Von Pick and I want to calaberat and do some sort of Q and A with other youtubers. swing by my channel, check it out and let me know if you have an interest. Thanks! M-
@@MattJackson_UA-cam I watched your video and just waited for the deal :) . Yes I was lucky to get the Batis deal on Green Monday sale from B&H photo. Love the lens
5:30 there is no virtually difference in terms of picture quality. 6:20 the zeiss is defenitely the best in terms of picture quality
lol
Haha
fr, man these youtubers be doing that shit. Its so annoying.
i realize it's pretty off topic but do anyone know a good website to watch new movies online?
@Sonny Ari flixportal :)
I picked up a Batis that was purchased and never used for $800, & I am VERY happy I did. I love the color rendition, the pop, and accurate solid focus. 2 things that put me over the edge initially were the excellent weather sealing, and the image stabilization . . . but WOW, the image quality is NUTS ! Great lens, can't go wrong with either.
Absolutely. I love that lens!!!!
This video is 3 years old now but can you shoot at a slower shutter speed because of the image stabilization in the zeiss batis? If yes, by how much
I'd still stick with the general rule of double your focal length = I wouldn't count on IS to help when it comes to the sharpness of your image.
@@MattJackson_UA-cam I meant that the oss and ibis stack so you can use them both but this only works with the a7rv and about 5 sony lenses as of now
just picked up the zeiss. was back and forth with the GM but the weight was my deciding factor. When hiking that extra pound would be killer. Great video
Love the Zeiss. Really excited to give the GM a try soon, but it’ll be hard to compete against that Zeiss color and contrast.
Know this is an older video but I bought the Batis in 2015 which was two years ahead of the Sony 85/1.8. As simple as that. Bought the Sony 85/1.4 GM in late 2016. Again before the f/1.8 was available since 85mm was a key focal length to me after owning the Canon EF 85mm f/1.2 L II. Now also own the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L. Waiting on Sony for an f/1.2 as well. Thank you and take care.
Shot with both....Fe gives you more contrasts...Zeiss gives you dreamy.....
I like dreamy...
For Toy shots, Zeiss 85 has more contrast to show the texture and details of the timber. Sony 85 F1.8 is sharp, but not much contrast and the colour is a bit light.
LOVE the contrast on the Zeiss!
I wonder that it is only very few that think of a macro lens to compare with other short tele lenses, I have used 60, 90 and 100mm macros for 24x36mm (fullframe) format and 120mm macro for 6x6 format for many years, macro lenses are so very good allround lenses and also perfect for portrait ! Right now I use Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, Sony Zeiss Sonnar 55mm 1.8, Leica R 60mm Macro-Elmarit 2.8, Tamron SP 90mm 2.5 Macro Adaptall-2 52B and Sony 135mm 1.8 GM plus many more lenses that I use less frequent. At the moment there are none new lenses in 60 to 100mm primes that I think is good enough for my use !
I’ve had both and love the Batis! Good video!
Such a great lens! Thanks so much!
Can you tell us about the autofocus in video ? Is there a difference ?
They both autofocus at the same speed with no hunting at all, especially if you have the focus area set perfectly for your scenario - virtually no difference between the two. However, the FE might have a slight edge overall only because you can toggle back and forth between auto and manual super quickly, making it a little more versatile.
Thanks boss. I think I’m gonna go for the batis
@@stevenstevensteven4 My pleasure. And thanks for watching! The Batis is the one I kept due to the color and depth rendering and its amazing detail. I use it on every shoot.
I already have batis 25mm and sigma 50mm. Debating on these two for 85mm now. Do you think Zeiss has a better resale value too?
I think the resale is actually quite similar for both since they're both pretty well sought-after. I sold the FE for just under $500 recently. The picture quality of the Zeiss can't be beat, though.
@@MattJackson_UA-cam Great. Then I'll keep an eye on deals for the Batis 85mm. I hope I can get it for $800. That's how much I paid for my Batis 25mm last year, right before the Christmas.
@@ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy I got mine used on Amazon for just under $900, so that's definitely possible!!!
Nine Stories Creative Batis was going for 719 at BH yesterday
@@Loachie90 I saw it at night when I was in bed. I didn't buy it immediately and next day the offer was gone. I got my 25 batis last year around this time for $800. Hopefully they reduce the price again.
Hooray. That’s made my mind up. There’s so many videos and reviews on the fence
Fantastic! Which did you go for?
Well I have the Sony 85 1.8 but have just bought the Batis. Looking forward to testing it out and selling the Sony. The Sony is good but found the colours a little muted
@@mystikmeg It's a great lens, but I kept the Batis as well for the contrast and colors hands-down.
The fe 85 1.8 is just exceptional the only thing it lacks for me is the stabilisation that the batis 85 has
I agree. It was my gateway lens into better portraiture!
Yeah but now a days most of the Sony cameras have image stabilization in them already, So is it really that much of a difference? It’s better that the camera has IS more then the lens!
@@GLIMPSE_00 While it's true that the Batis line comes from an age with less IBIS camera's, it is not true that IBIS is better than OSS. The sensor can only move so much and hence, IBIS is very useful for shorter focal lengths, while OSS is a major benefit for longer ones. It's not coincidence that when mounting an OSS lens to an A7iii, the camera will utilise both IBIS and OSS as a single hybrid system, and that the 70-200GM and 100-400GM have OSS for those exact benefits.
A friend is selling his Batis 85 1.8 lens, but I just bought the Sony one. Great review, from my point of view the Batis is indeed better. I loved the pictures coming out of that lens more, but the 400 extra is the dealbreaker for me. Thanks, keep on making great videos!
The Sony FE is amazing. You’re going to make some killer art with that lens!
I wish you could have done videography with both this lens I’m thinking which one I should get
The Zeiss has Lens build Image Stabilization - definitely the better choice here
Selling my sigma 85 DG DN for the batis. I also have used the sony. The flare, the weight, and the OS makes it a winner. For sharpness go with the sigma.
Love that Batis!!!
May i know why? Im considering to buy either sigma 85 DG DN or Zeiss batis 85
@jam tayo what do you like about the battis over the DG DN? Im considering both
@@fauzanjamahat1 sorry for the late response. Comment below
@@HumanityDone I like the color rendition and the flare it produces. Sigma is very sharp if that’s what you are going for. Ultra sharp 🥲
Great video love your personality , keep going man !
Thanks so much! New one coming soon!
wich zeiss lens autofocus on sony cameras?
The Zeiss Batis lenses autofocus extremely well - just as fast as the G Master lenses in photo and video.
@@MattJackson_UA-cam Better even according to some tests. The GM seems slow and noisy to focus.
I've learned alot watching your videos. I hope your channel grows!
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
I think the ZEISS has much better contrast and color pop.
It’s an amazing lens!
nd filter size for it
67mm on both
thanks for this, as I'm trying to choose. I really cannot see any difference between these two in terms of IQ. It's really hard to see any additional pop from the Zeiss in this. Thanks for the vid
Thank you for watching! I think as I used it more and more the contrast became a little more apparent. But they’re both amazing lenses!
Ur english accent is sooo easy listening...i like it...from indonesia
"That Zeiss look is a real thing.". It took me a lot of sceptical years and experience to know what that means. Years in which slowly, but surely, sharpness, overcorrected CA and "soft round bokeh balls" have taken back seat to lively DoF transitions, beautiful color separation and contrast, artistic/lively/non-distracting bokeh patterns, and small form factor. You know, basically every lens property that is NOT scored on DXO.
Every lens is a compromise and I think the 85 Batis more than the others, weighed "art" the heaviest in that compromise.
Zeiss batis may actually have an edge or it may be just propaganda or cult but if so many creators vouch for it, I am going for Zeiss.
Good job
Thanks so much!
Great video! you might want to find a way to your voice audio, it can be hard to hear you over the music in the back ground.
Thank you! And thank you for the suggestion - working on fantastic audio balance for all devices is something I'm excited to get better at - thanks for watching!
That Ziess look is a real thing...
... yeah ... crap... it is and I'm already in deep
In deep with Zeiss?...
Throw in that new Viltrox 85mm 1.8 II
Good idea!
Why is your skintone excessively orange?
Because I aggressively overly saturated the footage. To do it over again...
Despite the Spiderman image, I liked the FE images more.
BRAVO !!!
Thank you!
Batis...
Thanks for the video! My Name is Michael Von Pick and I want to calaberat and do some sort of Q and A with other youtubers. swing by my channel, check it out and let me know if you have an interest.
Thanks!
M-
sold Sony FE for $470 and got Zeiss Batis on sale for $719.
Well worth the upgrade.
@@MattJackson_UA-cam I watched your video and just waited for the deal :) . Yes I was lucky to get the Batis deal on Green Monday sale from B&H photo. Love the lens
That’s fantastic! Congrats and I’m excited to see what art you create with it!
Was $719 used or new? That’s amazing!