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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @georgenaidoo9553
    @georgenaidoo9553 6 місяців тому +18

    Tiffs ability to present while having that car in thr edge is a true testament of his skill 👌🏼👌🏼

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 5 років тому +71

    377 bhp, wow. The cars I worshiped in the 90’s officially only made 276 hp

    • @thebigboybossy4232
      @thebigboybossy4232 4 роки тому +3

      If you're thinking of the lan evo, than be glad that the evo weighs half as much with awd👍

    • @downsouth420
      @downsouth420 2 роки тому +7

      Most of those cars actually had more power. There was a gentleman’s agreement in Japan to limit power to 276, but in reality those cars put out a bit more and were simply advertised as having 276HP to prevent raised eyebrows from the public.

    • @jesusiskingofkings4428
      @jesusiskingofkings4428 10 місяців тому +3

      @@downsouth420yeah we know but they were nowhere near 376bhp from factory

    • @Namedonelettere
      @Namedonelettere 7 місяців тому +2

      ✌️“276 hp”✌️

    • @tillbot8
      @tillbot8 3 місяці тому

      ​@@downsouth420 mate got one dyno'd, 352 at the flywheel. I have heard most of them (Supra, Skyline) were 325-360bhp

  • @TownofJezza
    @TownofJezza 5 років тому +167

    This is Europe: Everything fun is banned!

    • @sulfurical7439
      @sulfurical7439 3 роки тому +9

      Oi! havin a bit o' horse play 're we. Bit illegal innit bruv

    • @magnumfire313
      @magnumfire313 3 роки тому +2

      This is world: Every fun is banned

    • @obeseperson
      @obeseperson 3 роки тому +1

      magnum fire no it isn't, calm down

    • @kash2173
      @kash2173 3 роки тому +1

      my dad has a carlton

    • @Namedonelettere
      @Namedonelettere 7 місяців тому +2

      Only if you’re not upper class

  • @nealenewton4193
    @nealenewton4193 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the upload!
    In Australia, GM's local branch, Holden, took this platform, lengthened and widened it, and used it as a VN Commodore.
    Holden's hotrod offshoot, HSV (owned by Tom Walkingshaw) made a Group A version with an injected 5litre V8.
    Contemporary road tests showed that the Vauxhall was the quickest, tho the mighty injected cast iron ohv wasn't disgraced.
    Those were the days 😁👍

  • @Dragoneer
    @Dragoneer 5 років тому +181

    I’m just thinking about the whole police controversy thing...why didn’t they buy these cars for the police force instead?? It would make a great police car, it’s four door and there’s a lot of space inside for suspects...

    • @jasonh4961
      @jasonh4961 5 років тому +36

      [[[ *_Dragonier_* ]]] because it cost about 91k usd at the time...

    • @Dragoneer
      @Dragoneer 5 років тому +31

      Jason H Considering the police force now a-days have funds for BMW M5 interceptors..?

    • @jasonh4961
      @jasonh4961 5 років тому +6

      [[[ *_Dragonier_* ]]] that’s true 🤷‍♂️

    • @Namiz00
      @Namiz00 5 років тому +13

      It's kinda stupid they ban cars because it's powerful, and if they can't buy the cars, they should take notes that tuning is possible, and still keeping the outside relatively stock.

    • @Dragoneer
      @Dragoneer 5 років тому +7

      Ainsworth Agreed. Though in reality I think they’re just salty tbh...lol

  • @peteylang3401
    @peteylang3401 Рік тому +11

    This car, in working condition, is worth a shed load of money in the UK. Rare as Chickens teeth. A regular saloon that can push 165-170 is mental !!!

    • @neverenoughgames72
      @neverenoughgames72 5 місяців тому

      About 60k in Netherlands

    • @paulthomson9014
      @paulthomson9014 2 місяці тому +1

      Redline in 5th then into 6th and a lotus carlton will pass 190

  • @iantownsend5480
    @iantownsend5480 10 років тому +106

    The cheapest one I can find is 35 grand lol maybe one day

    • @sebiblasko8608
      @sebiblasko8608 5 років тому +34

      120k nowadays=)))

    • @areeskinwar7274
      @areeskinwar7274 5 років тому +5

      @@sebiblasko8608 sob, and I was thinking of importing one to my Island ...we have rhd also

    • @rcart1
      @rcart1 5 років тому +28

      Bet you wish you bought one when you made this comment

    • @ryhoo_p2055
      @ryhoo_p2055 4 роки тому

      @@rcart1 😁

    • @Zed-not-Zee
      @Zed-not-Zee 4 роки тому +2

      £100 odd grand now !🤯

  • @Zero_Ninety
    @Zero_Ninety Рік тому +30

    £25k for a mint Lotus Carlton? Those were the days...

    • @jacklee7104
      @jacklee7104 2 місяці тому +1

      I remember a low mileage minter going for 15k at Buxton car auctions around 2004 my Dad was amazed it fetched so much as that was twice the price of a decent e34 M5 back then.

    • @MP-po6fj
      @MP-po6fj Місяць тому

      ​@@jacklee7104And the Bmr M5 some bit of kit too back then loaded to the gills with technology and extras that.

  • @adambransbury
    @adambransbury 6 років тому +30

    now theyre 100 odd grand!!!

  • @AdamKoenigseggCCXR
    @AdamKoenigseggCCXR 7 років тому +5

    fucking sold mine for £35,000 about 12 years ago only to check it's worth £100,000+ these days !

  • @oldrustyrelic9121
    @oldrustyrelic9121 Місяць тому

    I had one of these cartons once all for about 8 hours. The next morning, you'd never would have believed I no longer owned it. What a beautiful, short-lived dream that was. Then it made me think ot getting old. And I realised if it still had my witts of mind I'd look back at life one last time and say what a beautiful dream this is

  • @lebumjames1330
    @lebumjames1330 8 років тому +48

    Finally legal to import now!(:

  • @DHG1124
    @DHG1124 13 років тому +2

    who cares about the guy driving it or the fact that he switched the names. that car is gorgeous and thats why you all came to watch it! i mean damn that car is awesome

  • @Brendan2097
    @Brendan2097 5 років тому +17

    Tiff is one of the few Top Gear presenters who could REALLY drive, I think?
    Also, was this basically a Holden Commodore rebadged and reworked?

  • @ztikmaen
    @ztikmaen 14 років тому +4

    This car is beautiful

  • @1987FX16
    @1987FX16 4 роки тому +2

    An outrageous invitation to speed. lol So apparently I was invited to speed this WHOLE time and I've just been sitting here ignoring her.

    • @edbo10
      @edbo10 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah by the police logic the moment anyone brushes a finger against a gun that's clearly an invitation to go on a murderous rampage lol

  • @Thellbro
    @Thellbro 6 років тому +3

    Now we know where Jezza got his ”...in the world” from. @0:42

  • @martini8694
    @martini8694 10 років тому +5

    Its is top gear tiff used to work for them in the past . I had a 3000 gsi 24v about the same time as this video it did 0-60 in 6 sec and i got 170 out of it going up hill on a motorway . Fast fast car . Had a go in a lotus Carlton but couldn't get insured at the time nor a astra gsi ? Although is was far slower lol .

    • @j99oel
      @j99oel 7 років тому +6

      Suppose you were in reverse as well

    • @GB-vn1tf
      @GB-vn1tf 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@j99oeltowing a caravan that he used to transport lead around with....

  • @wetdogify
    @wetdogify 2 роки тому +1

    Isn't every car an 'invitation to break the law'
    They all go over the speed limit.

  • @shadinasr77
    @shadinasr77 13 років тому +2

    This is Top Gear, Tiff was with top gear, and he says that at 1:54!!

  • @MrFreijan
    @MrFreijan 12 років тому +1

    Its funny to read comments where people says that people are stupid when they say that this is top gear

  • @mrcaboosevg6089
    @mrcaboosevg6089 3 роки тому +3

    Shabby ones for £15k, those were the days...

  • @ade-1772
    @ade-1772 3 місяці тому

    Just watching this in 2024 and that Carlton lotus is 25k omg sold all day 😂

  • @NWAforLifee
    @NWAforLifee 2 роки тому +2

    Love drifting this in forza horizon 5, thanks for the video. Also is it true only 1000 we’re made?

  • @MrRohanThomas
    @MrRohanThomas 6 років тому +11

    this was the fastest sedan in the world, it could go 180MPH

    • @nakazatotakeshi4286
      @nakazatotakeshi4286 5 років тому +3

      NO SHIT,SHERLOCK!

    • @MDDeGrande1994
      @MDDeGrande1994 4 роки тому +3

      @Covert Person Second fastest* sedan of its time, after the Alpina B10 Biturbo (E34).

  • @tommyduk1779
    @tommyduk1779 2 місяці тому +1

    Boss Saloon, still.

  • @Detoyato
    @Detoyato 13 років тому +8

    Those who say its Fifth Gear... are young lots who's fond of the Current TG format (arent we all?)... but heck... it IS Top Gear... back when it was old and boring.. Clarkson is the only one worth watching back then...

    • @anthonytaylor7590
      @anthonytaylor7590 Рік тому +1

      Nah tiff was a driver and made top gear back then

    • @Leeirvinebird
      @Leeirvinebird 2 місяці тому +1

      I know I'm late to the party, but I agree about Tiff and would like to add Vicki Butler-Henderson.

  • @JD-eq4dp
    @JD-eq4dp 3 роки тому +8

    Jasper Carrott ! As funny as a mass grave !

  • @mattarnold198
    @mattarnold198 3 місяці тому

    The craziest thing is: the Corvette from which it was derived goes for around the same price! I know which I'd rather have...

    • @GB-vn1tf
      @GB-vn1tf 2 місяці тому

      It was only the gearbox that came from a corvette.

    • @mattarnold198
      @mattarnold198 2 місяці тому

      @@GB-vn1tf Right: so no V8, no good looks and probably not much room for tuning either...

  • @gazarsenal1955
    @gazarsenal1955 3 дні тому

    Now around £100000.if only we knew😳

  • @ArnaudShanghai
    @ArnaudShanghai 12 років тому +11

    Tiff was always old!

  • @Kgn-kgsjejdnne91
    @Kgn-kgsjejdnne91 3 роки тому +1

    Vauxhall and lotus 💪

  • @ah-hl6fr
    @ah-hl6fr 2 роки тому +3

    Beast

  • @chadmoodley3497
    @chadmoodley3497 4 роки тому +1

    The original sleeper car?

  • @bmt5575
    @bmt5575 4 роки тому +1

    2020 Anyone ?

  • @manuelhan1854
    @manuelhan1854 5 років тому +13

    How dare you get fifth gear mixed up with top gear

    • @kendal5210
      @kendal5210 5 років тому +5

      Bum Tingler the presenter worked on both

    • @dod-ic8vw
      @dod-ic8vw 5 років тому +2

      Tiff, used to present topgear.

    • @1989Chrisc
      @1989Chrisc 5 років тому +3

      Tiff clearly mentions in the video about it being top gear

    • @arthurcorassini
      @arthurcorassini 4 роки тому +2

      1:52 how dare you

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 4 роки тому +1

      It’s Top Gear you ignorant twat

  • @MP-po6fj
    @MP-po6fj Місяць тому

    Woah this car they state could do 170 mph 175 mph and the police senators where 149 mph Top speed.

  • @rwd323
    @rwd323 2 місяці тому

    Diff from the Aussie Commodore?

  • @DerVagabundli
    @DerVagabundli 14 років тому +1

    thanks and sorry, i´ve found out by now though^^

  • @TheComedyGuitarGuy
    @TheComedyGuitarGuy 26 днів тому

    They haven’t lost a penny of value either.

  • @VantageCigarretes
    @VantageCigarretes 12 років тому

    @DrkBluePenguin You can but only DOT "Show and Display" exemption.

  • @DrkBluePenguin
    @DrkBluePenguin 13 років тому

    I really want to ship one out to the US.

  • @local_hotpotato
    @local_hotpotato 7 років тому

    Ultimate family winter beater

    • @MD-uu5nt
      @MD-uu5nt 6 років тому +4

      Local_ Hotpotato a £80,000 beater...sure

  • @Papa_Mack
    @Papa_Mack 3 роки тому

    Last one I seen was nearly $7000

  • @Speedy4417
    @Speedy4417 Рік тому +6

    Great to see “Andrew Tate” loving old opels/lotus/vauxhall carltons 😂

  • @marcellon2003
    @marcellon2003 14 років тому

    @TheSpyChecker that's still in the 20th century, though. ;-)

  • @Kashi-K
    @Kashi-K 4 роки тому

    Richard looks little weird in this

  • @wjones6606
    @wjones6606 2 місяці тому

    In the day, this was an unheard of unimportant car, that did not sell and were simply not talked about. The legend and leader of the pack by far, wore a Blue oval...

  • @S65Finland
    @S65Finland 3 місяці тому

    E60 AMG was faster. But it was couple years later after 1990.

  • @paulsoames7980
    @paulsoames7980 3 роки тому +1

    100k car now

  • @iAMChrisCC
    @iAMChrisCC 4 роки тому +1

    These days you can get a diesel saloon or a shopping hatch that will hit 60 faster than that 😎

  • @jonathanosullivan8739
    @jonathanosullivan8739 8 місяців тому

    25grand😢 .for sale today at 90grand

  • @tudor5310
    @tudor5310 5 років тому +17

    Its Fifth Gear

    • @MrDatrandomguy
      @MrDatrandomguy 5 років тому +9

      Tiff used to be a presenter on Top Gear years ago, google it.

    • @iainchan
      @iainchan 5 років тому +2

      it's Top Gear and Tiff said it himself at 1:52

    • @coolinism
      @coolinism 4 роки тому +1

      Top gear

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 4 роки тому +2

      Why don’t people pay attention?

  • @saltygrasshopper
    @saltygrasshopper 6 років тому

    The whole issue of spay-eed...

  • @DS-om3pt
    @DS-om3pt 3 роки тому

    And now we have veyrons etc lol

  • @trancedsailor
    @trancedsailor 13 років тому +1

    i love this car in GT5

  • @Dogomatic
    @Dogomatic 2 місяці тому

    5th Gear

  • @alenalen5293
    @alenalen5293 7 місяців тому +1

    Roket ..

  • @BrasilianosPY
    @BrasilianosPY Рік тому

    No brasil, enganavam os tolinhos, como se fosse um autêntico GM Omega. E eles acreditam que são apaixonados por carros. Fazendão.

  • @royrogers7644
    @royrogers7644 4 роки тому

    I does not help to be fastest when they dont sell enough cars

  • @fmul3465
    @fmul3465 3 роки тому

    I have 1 today

  • @MiticoRaimond
    @MiticoRaimond 5 років тому +1

    Best car ever.

  • @ShanesAutos
    @ShanesAutos 12 років тому

    me too...epic fun

  • @mikenco
    @mikenco 10 місяців тому

    90 grand these days.

  • @notsocialatall
    @notsocialatall 11 років тому +9

    Sorry but that must be 5th Gear, Top Gear has always been on BBC Two, this is on
    a different Channel

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo 6 років тому +6

      Tiff even says Top Gear at 1:50 ! :)

  • @jamestherandomer
    @jamestherandomer 3 роки тому +1

    Aye looks like 5th gear to me lad lol Loved both of these shows, Topgear was a bit more cool but 5th gear still got watched! My gen evolved from watching Robot Wars, to sitting having a wee bev with the folks watching a Friday night movie or Red Dwarf lol World's fucked these days fellow 1988-1996 sorta gen we had it so good 🤘🤫💚

    • @qasimmir7117
      @qasimmir7117 2 роки тому +4

      This is Top Gear prior to the Andy Wilman takeover.

  • @viperz888
    @viperz888 13 років тому

    @lucrativeelfmongrel chill out mang

  • @beastmodeoverseer8525
    @beastmodeoverseer8525 3 роки тому

    700 hp on GT5 Lol

  • @highfall60
    @highfall60 4 роки тому

    bruh this is Fifth Gear

  • @sprite8435
    @sprite8435 3 роки тому

    Isnt this fifth gear?

    • @qasimmir7117
      @qasimmir7117 2 роки тому +1

      No.

    • @farishanafiah8461
      @farishanafiah8461 Рік тому +1

      Fifth Gear doesn't exist until 2002. Also, Tiff used to be a host for Top Gear.

  • @Eeter26
    @Eeter26 4 роки тому

    Haha, svenska undertexter!

  • @GAMESTER023
    @GAMESTER023 5 років тому +1

    This is 5th gear

    • @jayrave4
      @jayrave4 5 років тому +3

      GAMESTER023 it’s definitely Top gear - Tiff was there for years before going over to the dark side.

    • @arthurcorassini
      @arthurcorassini 4 роки тому +1

      1:52

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 4 роки тому +1

      Fucks sake, it’s Top Gear!

    • @GAMESTER023
      @GAMESTER023 4 роки тому

      George Morley 😂

  • @horse5407
    @horse5407 3 роки тому

    Tiff is a bit of a knob.

  • @DerVagabundli
    @DerVagabundli 14 років тому

    This is not top gear!

  • @Moist_mouse4670
    @Moist_mouse4670 2 роки тому

    Top gear. This is 5th gear

    • @farishanafiah8461
      @farishanafiah8461 Рік тому +3

      Fifth Gear doesn't exist until 2002. Also, Tiff used to be the host of Top Gear.

    • @saycero
      @saycero Рік тому +1

      go to 1min52secs...

    • @Moist_mouse4670
      @Moist_mouse4670 Рік тому

      Ah right, sorry guys

  • @marcellon2003
    @marcellon2003 14 років тому +81

    Yes, it is Top Gear. In the 90's Tiff Needell was a Top Gear presenter, alongside Jeremy Clarkson.

    • @fatherofdragons4880
      @fatherofdragons4880 3 роки тому +8

      As was James may at one point

    • @Danyella72
      @Danyella72 6 місяців тому +3

      But this has the Channel 5 Logo/watermark, so this is almost certainly the Channel 5 response, "Fifth Gear".

    • @marcellon2003
      @marcellon2003 6 місяців тому

      @@Danyella72 well spotted! I stand corrected.

    • @Danyella72
      @Danyella72 6 місяців тому +1

      @@marcellon2003Well maybe not! Further down in the comments, people noted that he mentioned "Top Gear" at a point during the video. I know he was on both programmes, and the Five logo is there...

    • @rrrtt
      @rrrtt 3 місяці тому +1

      1:52

  • @mrcrazyjonpresents4312
    @mrcrazyjonpresents4312 5 років тому +12

    love how tiff has this pure sideways

  • @syedsalalilyas5465
    @syedsalalilyas5465 5 років тому +8

    Te way he moves his head with every syllable.

  • @ntmdisco
    @ntmdisco 11 років тому +4

    i used to own a 1990 black carlton 2.0i cdx, it looked just like the lotus with all the body kit and spoiler but didnt perform like one. it could only do 130, not bad for an automatic though. and it pulled my one ton caravan like it wasnt even there. sadly some stupid plonker in a vecta read ended it, bent the towbar and smashed the back end in and it was the never the same again. :-(, so i got an omega instead, but i miss my old carlton.....

  • @cheekyegg
    @cheekyegg 4 роки тому +3

    Middle management missile 😂

  • @PatrickIngham21
    @PatrickIngham21 13 років тому +3

    if only my carlton was half as powerful as that lol its a 2.0i cdx

    • @jamestherandomer
      @jamestherandomer 3 роки тому

      How's she now 🤔 dropped a 2jz in her yet for a blip?

  • @nostalgiaof98
    @nostalgiaof98 2 роки тому +1

    How much different is a Carlton from a VNSS I wonder

  • @pepperdotexe
    @pepperdotexe Рік тому +1

    Gran Turismo 4 brought me here

  • @MokesEnd
    @MokesEnd 2 місяці тому

    I had the pleasure of driving that car for a weekend after fixing it for a friend :)

  • @influentialgurning
    @influentialgurning 2 місяці тому

    I thought Lotus decided to not use an LSD so that it would be more delicate and adjustable, instead of pushing in corners. The inside wheel always spins with power-slip in the turn.

  • @noelht1
    @noelht1 2 місяці тому

    This truly was a mental car. But now you can find a series of hatchbacks like the golf R or the AMG A455 that are faster than it by a damn siight

  • @jml251
    @jml251 8 місяців тому

    At normal highway speeds would this car have good gas mileage the twin turbos should help.

  • @BlueXonar
    @BlueXonar 5 років тому

    0:20 Vauxhall didn't do shit!

  • @graveyardrumblers
    @graveyardrumblers Рік тому

    Drifting before drifting was cool lol

  • @sundelight8230
    @sundelight8230 3 роки тому

    Black beauty!! 😍😍

  • @TheSpyChecker
    @TheSpyChecker 14 років тому

    @marcellon2003 this was in 2000

  • @rydoggo
    @rydoggo 5 років тому +6

    In gt5, I got one. Even stock, when I turned off traction control, it just wanted to drift. I tuned it to 701 hp, a good suspension tune, proper tires, and it's a controllable drifter.

  • @murfyhusayn5793
    @murfyhusayn5793 4 роки тому

    Legend

  • @MrJohnnyDistortion
    @MrJohnnyDistortion 7 років тому

    Did they manufacture them with left side cabin steering?

    • @d-d-i
      @d-d-i 7 років тому +1

      Yes. This version on the video is Vauxhall Lotus Carlton, the british version of Opel Lotus Omega. Vauxhall version had steering wheel on the right, but the Opel's had them on the left. Other than that they're identical cars.

    • @local_hotpotato
      @local_hotpotato 7 років тому

      Just search the net for lotus omega

    • @GB-vn1tf
      @GB-vn1tf 2 місяці тому

      ​@@d-d-i the Opel was an Omega.

  • @sparkyindahouse
    @sparkyindahouse 12 років тому

    yes tif

  • @SAMPLETEXT285
    @SAMPLETEXT285 4 роки тому

    This is fifth gear

  • @jacktattis143
    @jacktattis143 5 років тому

    why did Tiff leave Top Gear

    • @Chickenfeetnomore
      @Chickenfeetnomore 5 років тому

      Because he knew more about cars

    • @jacktattis143
      @jacktattis143 5 років тому

      @@Chickenfeetnomore was it that or was he pushed?

  • @sentientvendingmachine639
    @sentientvendingmachine639 5 років тому +6

    Wait is that Clarkson!? He looks like an actor!

    • @lukemmurphy795
      @lukemmurphy795 5 років тому

      The old Clarkson has hair.

    • @1989Chrisc
      @1989Chrisc 5 років тому +5

      Thats tiff needell. He was the top man in top gear before clarkson may and hamsters version of the series

    • @billybull7419
      @billybull7419 5 років тому

      Ya that's definitely Jeremy Clarkson.

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 4 роки тому +1

      BillyBull This is TIFF NEEDELL. Got it? Tiff Needell.

  • @LloydLynx
    @LloydLynx 5 років тому +4

    Now this, this is a car worthy of eurobeat. Dare I say, it's able to compete with the AE86 for most awesome car.

    • @Eeter26
      @Eeter26 4 роки тому +4

      TheJooomes the ae86 is a slow, cheaply made, bad handling shitbox from the 80s. Isn’t the entire point of initial d that he wins races in spite of his car, not because of it? Stop circlejerking around a toyota corolla.

    • @elseagullo4979
      @elseagullo4979 4 роки тому +6

      @@Eeter26 I have to agree with you. The AE86 is a bit overrated as its standard horsepower is only around 112 and people only like it because of Initial D

    • @ToreDL87
      @ToreDL87 3 роки тому +3

      Well if you want luxury AND performance then yes, the little Toyota is a goner.
      But I've had one of those "shitboxes" for over a decade now, and have driven various German performance sedans over the years.
      The German stuff simply cant do low-mid speed corners, not like a Toyota anyway, if I turn in the same way I do with the Corolla they just understeer.
      Literally the speed with which the Corolla enters a corner catches even me (the owner & driver) by surprise sometimes.
      My dad drove the Corolla once and turned into an intersection, and nearly did a 180 on the spot.
      And look at prices, some guys below says Carlton's are in the 120k area now, you get 10 Corolla's in good nick for that price.
      Then there's insurance, from what I heard of U.K insurance rates: Lotus Carlton = Sell your house to pay the insurance for a year.
      A Toyota Corolla? Insurance companies don't think twice about them, you can probably insure DOZENS of them before you even get near.
      And while yes, insurance companies are a bit daft considering probably a greater ratio of Corolla's have gone into the ditch than Carlton's, but still, they charge what they charge.
      As far as burglary, I'd imagine Carlton's and 86's to be about equally desireable (the 86 probably more so because of the cartoon), but when someone steals your Carlton, you're out 120k, if your 86 disappears overnight, you've got another 108k to spend LOL

    • @joseph291
      @joseph291 2 роки тому

      Ill agree with you on that one because the AE86 is a very good car to throw about in the corners because of it's decent handling and it's 50/50 weight distrubution but the down side of the car is that it only has around 112-118hp so not so much on the straights. The AE86 has a 4AGE and if you put enough work into it you will be quite quick on the straights (if you arent already) but overall the AE86 is a good car and is loved by many such as (alot) of the Irish, Initial D fans and the Drift King himself Keiichi Tsuchiya.