Maxim Pom-Pom 37mm Machine Gun
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
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"Pom-Pom" was the name given to the 37mm Maxim gun by the Boers of South Africa, based on the gun's sound. It was a Maxim machine gun scaled up to the quite impressive 37mm caliber, intended primarily for naval use defending large vessels against small torpedo boats. This particular example is serial number 2024, made in 1889 and then sold three times before being ultimately purchased by the United States Coast Guard and installed on the USS Manning (along with a second gun, number 2026). The Manning was promptly put into military service by the Navy and steamed down to Cuba, where it participated in the first bombardment of Cuba during the Spanish-American War.
These 37mm guns could fire a wide variety of projectiles, including solid rounds which could pierce an inch (25mm) of iron armor at 100 yards and hollow rounds filled with black powder and fused to explode on impact. During World War One, they would be pushed into anti-aircraft service, with the explosive rounds being extremely effective on early aircraft (when you could get a hit, anyway).
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"Fill: 1 Pint at extreme depression"
boy i know that feeling
Lmao
Only One?
Specially with the glycerine addon
@@sculpture151 makes it go down smooth
Repeat as necessary.
I love that it has a little pistol grip. I realize that it probably has a point, but it just makes me imagine a dude comedically firing it like a pistol.
And he pulls it out of his suit jacket, everyone thinking it's just an ordinary revolver by the looks of the grip.
And then the rest of the gun appears.
Oh god yes.
Someone needs to draw a comic where an 1800s era gentleman uses this in a duel.
or like gentleman Rambo firing from the hip.
with a bandoleer of 37 mm shells draped across his shoulders
Clearly a heavy bolter. Love it.
totally :D
nah, thats just 25,4 mm caliber
Exactly the first thing I thought about :D
Emperor hears your heresy.
Yep.
"Do you want a machine gun or an artillery piece?"
"yes"
There's a world in which this was quickly used in tank turrets, or at least as tank main guns. I am both fascinated with and frightened by that universe.
The (almost)exact round on this was used in the ww1 ft 17 light tank(first MODERN tank).It was also a single shot gun😬
Is that world warhammer 40k?
@@jamesperkins2552 wh40k isn't the only universe with big guns bruh
Battlefield 1?
This is what i love about ww1 and ww2 before the invention of the atom bomb, the solution to how can we do more damage always was "well let's make it bigger"
Swarm069 that was also the solution with atom bombs
KV2 is a prime example in my mind
Yeah, atom era just destroyed all the fun...
now - if we motorize this how many rounds will it shoot??????
@@lithobreak3812 KV2 is an example of where you've gone too far.
its like the MK19's badass steampunk grandad
Atlas I bet it has better reliability too.
@@01superduty89 they were.
Wouldn't the steam punk version of this be the grandson?
After all. Steam punk is based on the era of steam. So anything that's "steam punk" by definition comes many years (decades/centuries) after.
@@AdamMGTF .... 1880 was steam..
@@danielaramburo7648 The Puckle gun was NOT the "first machine gun." It wasn't even really a repeater, though some people at the time called it that. It had multiple chambers, but had to be manually indexed making it more like a single action revolver than anything automatic.
You could argue for the Chambers 7 barrel gun, but that was more like 7 roman candles that fire bullets all strapped together. Automatic weapons are distinctly a product of the 1800s, and I wouldn't describe anything before the Maxim and similar experiments as a true machinegun. Gatling guns are also manually operated, and the whole "machine" part of the word machinegun is meant to convey automatic operation.
On the old film the soldiers are behaving exactly like people right now : "Is the Gopro recording ? Ok let's go"
that dude on the far rights face is exactly what i would do lol
@@sawyermounce1927 He may actually just be contorting from the concussion! It also looks like he's venting (as in yawning) so his eardrums don't burst. These guys were too cool for hearing protection. ;^)
@@sawyermounce1927 it's tim roth Oo
I love how the gunner is totally unimpressed by his gear....
@@paavobergmann4920 "seen it. yawn."
“Whatever happens,
we have got
The Maxim gun,
and they have not.”
- Hilaire Belloc, 1898
Always makes me laugh.
Which is funny considering every major power in ww1 had the maxim
@@Actually_nobody_ever The poem is in reference to colonial conflicts, iirc
Is it a giant machine gun or a normal sized machine gun being examined by a tiny man?
Yes
Its a giant gun
Nicolas Arnold no
When it .37 in instead of 37mm
Peter Anckorn neither. Bigfoot got tired of getting shot at so he went out and made his own lil gun...
Would each 37mm round need to be registered as a destructive device?
No.
Armor piercing shells could penetrate one inch? Why nobody thought about using this against the first tanks?
+GrimFaceHunter ; This is so heavy, you'd have the devil of a time moving it to where it was needed.
Just rivet it to the back of a truck
140 pounds
"What should we do for our new gun?"
"Lets make the Vicars Gun F'ing massive"
"Jolly good idea that"
MightyWhiteofYou Goodsir beat me to it lol
MightyWhiteofYou Goodsir - Just keep it away from the children this time.
but what if it was the size of a eraser?
Well this gun predates the Vickers.... >__>
Yes ! Jolly good that idea !!!
I love the brass furnishings. This gun is classy as fuck
Kudos to whoever dug this out of a scrap heap.
It’s a steampunk wonder fit to kill a primarch.
Ah, yes, perfect for the guard tower in my medieval castle.
You think like Mark Twain.
This is more or less the most efficient tool for dispatching medieval opponents and or armies.
I like the way you think.
Great minds think alike
Parry this, ye creetins! Taketh thy maxim! Sucketh thyne cocc!
Damn, the fact that the history behind this very specific gun is almost entirely known, who it was sold to, what vessel and at what battle it was used, probably if you different enough you could even find the name of the people who used to be it's gunners, makes this gun incredibly valuable. I'm sure that the exact same gun but with the history large unknown would be less valuable.
This would be a Starboard side gun as the windage was 15 to the left and only 5 to the right, as the ship would be moving this gun mounted to the right side of the ship would always have a 'wind' blowing left to right across the barrel. There must be a Port side sight with the opposite windage settings.
I was thinking the same!
Ah. Thank you, I was wondering about the asymmetrical windage.
Ah, so the gun is only expected to have apparent wind from the forward motion of the vessel
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Ships tend to go full flank speed when engaging enemy vessels.
please tell me that's not a bayonet lug on the bottom
Water jacket plug / fitting.
It's not japanese, dude.
Yeah, you need it if the somali pirates start boarding.....
Undermounted harpoon for when the torpedo boats get REALLY close.
Rusty Shackleford HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thinking of carrying this as my CCW. Any holster recommendations?
Frigate if concealed, light cruiser if open.
USS Olympia.
A small naval vessel.
if you want to go for plastic holster, a wheelie refuse bin
Go slay an elephant with it (and, please, make it a humane hunt so the money from it goes to preserving the species), then go and ask a custom leathersmith to make a tarp with the trunk concealing the barrel. Mount to a camel for maximum concealment. After all, who's going to think there's a gun there, when they see an elephant riding a camel?
When Maxim heard the horde said "More Dakka"
J
@@jovankaynak2159 40K horde.
Eavy Dakka
My great grandmother was married to Hudson, Hiram's brother. They worked together until a disagreement over the patent to one of the first smokeless powders - I forget which one but it was the first smokeless powder widely produced in the USA. Hudson went on to invent and manufacture high explosives and was deeply involved in the invention, testing and sales of high explosive artillery shells. He sold out to DuPont, and sat on the board of directers of DuPont for the remainder of his life. He was missing a hand, he lost it when a chunk of mercury fulminate he was holding underwent sympathetic detonation when a sample on his work bench accidentally detonated.
Hudson was self educated, his public education was only through high school. He was a good writer, I've read one of his books, a book about his life experiences in the explosive industry, it is very entertaining, eg he discusses the time he tried to hire a young woman to help in his home, she had been warned of his research, during the interview a shed on his property exploded, and she got up and left.
Hiram Jr. was the inventor of the first firearm suppressor and very active in radio. It was an extremely interesting family.
Their headquarters were on a corner in Hatton Garden in central London.
jesus christ Ian, how am I supposed to mount that thing to the back of my chopped-down toyota? or shopping trolley?
Somalis and other inventive people have mounted bigger things on the back of Toyotas before!
theoroinvictus Is a "shopping trolley" an electric powered shopping cart?
A 1999 Yaris could take it. Believe me.
"How am I supposed to mount that thing to the back of my chopped-down toyota? " *DUCT TAPE*
Could use it to propel a chopped Toyota or trolley
I love how it looks just like a scaled up Maxim, but it still has that tiny trigger on the back. It just looks so out of place. You expect to see some giant foot long trigger.
"Hey honey, look what I bought at the auction today!"
I like how everyone deemed this obsolete, just to turn around and put basically the same thing into service in a lighter weight system 100 years later lol
The concept isn't obsolete it was the execution. There's better ways to do what this can.
@@justforever96 3.34 "The U.S Declared them obsolete in 1911-1912 but used in WW1" The Bofor's didn't come around until the 30's. Same with the Oerliokon. I was specifically referring to the Mk 19 which is used in a totally different application. You're thinking of an AA format, which tbh, man operated AA guns are for all intents and purposes obsolete. Useful in antipersonnel though.
bofor deez nuts
Panzer 2s also had a autocannon and they performed well
Imagine if this had been modernised and mounted on the M3 Stuart tank instead of the single shot 37mm it had. That would have been one scary little tank...
The 37 could penetrate far more armor. This is a low velocity weapon
Or maybe an ft 17 from WW1
@@marcusborderlands6177 anti infantry and basic cover destruction would fit fine for it.
Fill during extreme depression? Sure hope Franz Kafka served at the ship.
Can You be my best friend? :-D
well played sir.
Or maybe Chekov when it was in Russian hands...
As I was glancing through videos I read the title as "machine gun porn"
Yeah that works too
Me too :)
It's the BBW of machineguns.
Well it certainly is one thicc machine gun...
PHOBOS essentially true.
I fill myself with pints when I'm at extreme depression too.
You know you're dealing with a serious piece of weaponry when it comes with its own "crate" of ammunition.
My grandparents have 2 spent pom Pom rounds at there house, it’s taken me until now to realise what gun they would have been fired from and I’ve finally found it! Both brass cartridges have been reshelled for asthmatics and used for show around a fireplace!
Nice to see that Ian found the German Federal Archive.
Protip: They have an extraordinary collection on videos and photos of WWI & WW2 equpment in use…
Sadly not a lot of gun camera footage, most were lost in the Dresden bombing
I think I saw one of those on a tank once.
Shame that so many parts are missing. It still makes a wonderful display piece.
This gun is amazing. I can imagine it being steampunk grenade launcher. Thanks Ian.:-)
The BFG-9,000 of the 19th century.
Everyone's gangsta until you pull the pom pom
I always love seeing good ol' Doom references on this videos
Pretty impressive rate of fire for such a big gun. Being designed in the 1880's is even more impressive.
The Military Museum in Johannesburg, South Africa have two of these 37mm Maxim Nordenfelt guns in very good condition on display . They also have German, British and ZAR ( Transvaal Republic from Boer War 1899 - 1902 ) ammuntion .
Yeah but is it legal for concealed carry?
Nick Fessel he’ll yeah it’s merica!!!
Every fucking video someone has to make this joke.
Open carry for sure! Lol
@@bentupp3026 yep, it's law.
Nick Fessel as long as you've got a big enough holster....
0:08 Notice how happy the man on the far right is when the gun goes off.
Looks like someone who was on the design team seeing it work for the first time
I noticed no hearing protection.
Our Great-Grandfathers' time: Autocannons and Gatling guns exist.
Vietnam War: America forgets to put guns on some of its fighter jets.
They put them on the Brown Water Navy barges. 😉
Wait, what?
@@danielm.595 The F-4 Phantom famously lacked an internal cannon, at a time where literally every other aircraft had at least one. It could mount gunpods, but at the cost of space that could be used for other ordinance.
@@Majima_Nowhere damn
@@Majima_Nowhere Later versions got an internal autocannon, didn't they? I know the ones from the Vietnam war lacked it.
I hope the buyer puts it in working order and let Ian do a follow up video.
I think this is even in Battlefield 1 as a AA gun
Ye, when i saw this cannon my thoughts were: Hmmm, kinda looks like stationary AA in BF1.
You are correct. This is the machine gun that is mounted on the armored train as well as the armored jeep and land ship.
+Moby Green the trucks and landships use a regular maxim or Lewis gun the AA artillery truck is the only one that uses this gun and then of course there are the stationary AA aswell
josh arnhill You're right. I just assumed they were as they do damage to armored vehicles.
Moby Green
Always love the archeology of digging into the gun bits to find its history. Great video
Interesting to see this, the forerunner to the modern-day automatic grenade launcher (AGL). Funny thing is, even though a typical AGL is much smaller in size, it weighs about the same as the Maxim gun alone weighs without its mount.
For self defense I need this fixed on my roof of my house just in case any bombers or light infantry vehicles come nearby
CAN NEVER BE TOO SAFE
Really can’t, last week my neighbors house was assailed by a zeppelin raid shortly following a bombardment from a squadron of Gotha bombers.
Maybe if he’d heeded my advice, the hun would never have taken the territory they had.
I'm wondering if it's possible to bolt this to a truck bed?
Guns of this era always make me want a brass data plate on my AK, for no good reason. lol
Great video as always!
There is one of these on display at the Royal Armouries museum in Leeds U.K. I was amazed when I saw it, captured during the Boer war I think, at the other extreme they also have a Kolibri automatic pistol in 4.5mm. Admittance used to be free, can't say if it still is.
For a millisecond I thought you were saying you had a free go on firing the guns.
For the last year, there was no charge for admission. In fact there was no admission at all.
There is also an anti-aircraft version at IWM Duxford
As a pirate once said when he and his crew of ne'er-do-wells encountered this weapon:
"Yaaarrr Harr, OH MY GAWD!"
Yaarr, Shiver me breeches! I think I pooped my pants!
"I want a single shell to down an entire building"
"We can do that"
"I also want it to be in full auto"
"Wait what?"
Yup, pretty much
I was at college in Erith, South East London. Our local pub was known as the PomPom, it’s actual name was the Nordenfelt! It was just a few hundred yards from the Vickers factory...
Games Workshop must have taken inspiration from this for some of the guns in Warhammer 40k. very cool.
Especially the assault cannon, with the firing barrel being the lower one
All of 40k weapons, especially small arms and vehicles of the IOM appear to be heavily inspired by WWI or turn of the century tech
@@OtterTreySSArmy and that perfectly matches the idea of the Imperium, a massive behemoth, but with a ridiculously outdated (but still advanced) technology compared to the rest of the galaxy, Orks non included.
@@danielm.595 lol Orks the most primitive species of the galaxy being one of the only ones who actually advances their tech is probably one of the funniest things about the 40k Universe
@@OtterTreySSArmy And they do this with the power of make-belief. The Universe is a funny place sometimes.
Сколько латунных частей в этом пулемёте- делался на века!👍👍👍
Awww, that pistol grip is so cute.
Made in Crayford Kent England, there used to be a public house in the area called "The Nordenfedlt" which was know locally as the Pom Pom now sadly closed and a block of flats as is the Vickers factory in Crayford, now a set of flats and a big Gymnasium.
Every time you think you saw all amazing guns Ian is here to make your day better with an amazing video !
Weapon designs in the late 19th/ early 20th century: Well let's use that standard weapon here, and just make it 4 times bigger. (See Tank-Gewehr, that thing...)
I would like three to ten of these for my latest yacht. My agent will be in touch.
My grandfather was a naval gunner on these. Never knew what the hell he was talking about when he was talking about "pom-pom" guns when he was still alive, and now I do.
This is what makes the internet so cool.
We have one of these in Devonport Park, Plymouth UK mounted on a plinth. It’s known as the ‘Doris Gun’ as it was brought back from the 2nd Boer War by the Naval Ship HMS Doris.
Out of all the guns I have seen over the years on this channel this I feel like is one of best.
"Oy, slam a pint into ya while at extreme depression"
Heard that one before.
Lots of spent shells where brought back to the uk by servicemen and where after found in the hallways of houses containing walking sticks and parasols or by the fireplace with a poker and coal tongs inside them.
I have 3 of these shells, bought from car boot sales for 50p each.
Thanks for another great gun review Ian. You made one blue though, with the reference to "wood and canvas" aeroplanes in the Great War: most all the makers used doped linen cloth. With the inefficient aero engines of the time, the aircraft would never lift off the ground if canvas was used in the construction, as it is just too heavy.
Once again proving why this is the coolest history channel on you tube!
This is one of my favorite video's to go back and rewatch.
There is one of these in the 22nd regiment’s museum in Quebec as part of their WW1 exhibit
Still waiting for the range portion for this one.
it's like an early automatic grenade launcher. that they where using for anti boat and anti aircraft roles. its even got the same 800 meter range as a mk-19.
That's exactly what it was- there were 3 different designations for these guns-mk6, mk7, and mk9 depending on the barrel length and light vs heavy ( pretty sure this is a mk9). 1lb 37mm guns ran from mk1-15 then 40mm grenade launchers got the designations above that- the mk18 has always been a personal favorite.
@@jamesbridges7750 a friend of mine told me about the mk-18 before I had seen it or heard of it on here. He used it in Vietnam. And was also given a stoner machine gun. And an M-16. He said he carried a ak47 that he picked up. He was in the sea bees.
@@jamesbridges7750 I showed that same friend the mk-19 and mk-47 agl he said that they look great and all but how reliable are they? I told him that they require a lot of LSA in Iraq from what iv heard
it often saddens me to see things like this for sale as realy they should be in a museum,but still realy enjoy see them on here thanks
We have this gun on display at The American Heritage Museum in Hudson Ma.. Back in Nov 2020, I walked in for my shift and was asked if I would mind polishing the brass on the 37mm. Tedious job normally, but fun when it is something this cool.
I have one sitting in my garage, currently being restored
Is this an Heavy Stubber or an Autocannon?
Can any Tec-prist help me with this?
Auto cannon.
nah nah, its a dreadnoughts bolt pistol
windtalkersblah That would be an assault cannon.
The machine spirit shines in it!
BRWaldo97 What dose Bolters has to do with this?
This seems like the perfect weapon for its role - I wouldn't want to get my torpedo boat anywhere near it. What was it actually replaced by?
Quick firing guns in the 75-100mm calibre. Torpedoes rapidly increased in range and power in this time period and the ships that carried them also got much larger. By 1905ish guns like this had neither the range nor power to deter torpedo attack.
it's so cool to be reading about a strange rare weapon and do a search and find that Forgotten Weapons has done a video on it, to get to see the real thing in all it's glory and have it's workings and some of it's history explained is a real treat. FW is great, thanks a lot.
Beautiful bit of craftsmanship that is
being "declared obsolete" is kinda a contradiction of terms, I guess after 1910 troops could ignore fire from one of these then..."Don't worry lads, their weaponry is obsolete. Charge!". Obsolete or not its an awesome weapon that deserves respect & I'm glad FW have featured it
Obsolete does not mean useless. A black powder musket will still make you pretty dead.
Glen Phenix I agree w/you completely,
If you hit anything with it, as a famous russian general (Alexander Suvorov) once said: ''the bullet is a fool, the bayonet is a fine chap''
So yeah it will make you pretty dead provided you're willing to get up close and personal.
Obsolete means we don't do it that way anymore, not that it stopped working. The Mk1 rock is still in service.
Obsolete as a naval weapon. Torpedoes got better and engagement ranges longer, as well as torpedo boats got bigger.
$150,000 to $250,000 for a bit of authentic set dressing? Seems legit.
Exactly. A completely inoperable paperweight
Replacement parts could be made for 10K or 15K more, at the most. It's historic and rare, an actual Spanish war used piece.
Lets face it, its just decoration for some rich dude's manison. Have doubts it will sell though. If it was me to just blow such cash, i would rather buy the mauser pistol prototypes that were displayed here recently. I think theyre much more interesting.
The historic pistols require someone who appreciates the history and design of firearms. This gun just requires someone with a small penis and a lot of cash. Two entirely different markets.
+505blaineo
Might want to right that salt shaker there.
"close range" implying that it can be a room clearing gun
The pistol grip at the rear of it is hilarious. Pulling this out of a holster would make a good cartoon.
Amazing. That is one hell of a piece of artillery for the time period.
What a coincidence, I too fill up during extreme depression, though usually with equal parts gin and tonic.
first thought: FOR THE EMPRAHHHH! XD Awesome piece of military history! :)
Holy crap! Its listed as... HISTORICALLY IMPORTANT MAXIM NORDENFELT 37MM “POM-POM”, NAVAL DECK GUN (EXEMPT FROM NFA). EXEMPT FROM NFA?!?! Can I get it shipped to my door as well?
Love it when Ian shrinks himself...
This is incredible! Amazing engineering
This is the grate grandfather of a Heavy Bolter form WH40k
So this is basically a Heavy Bolter
Is this is beginning of a new Every Day Carry series?
What's really great is when you look at the pistol grip in relation to the whole thing
'Stand your ground' has never been more fun.
12:32 and now it's missing ANOTHER part.
Good eye. :) That was a piece of folded paper I had stuffed inside the action to hold the crank handle in the rearward position.
+Forgotten Weapons oh that's good! Would be quite horrifying to loose a piece on a gun that rare and expensive!
can I put stock on it so I can sidestrafe easier
please no
ATLAS GAMING it already have a pistol grip so you can hip fire
Pics of the ship this guy was mounted on:
www.navsource.org/archives/12/179886.htm
Maxim was always one of my favorite guns
like the loud American pointed out, brass doesnt corrode, but its also a non-binding metal. during abusive conditions (salt water, dirt, etc.) it requires no oil, so your belt feed & other moving parts wont bind. as for the brass water jacket, im guessing the Navy didnt give a shit about weight, being it was a mounted gun. great upload as always, F.W.
the gau 8 avenger of its time
Marin Gabriela gau8 is 30mm
this is 37mm.
gau8 is overrated
well, i am talking about the internet hype.
GAU-8 is pretty awesome, especially on the A-10 Thunderbolt II because all the bullets hit, then you hear the gun, then you hear the beautiful noise of the A-10's engines. I'm not as much of a GAU-8 fanboy as I am an A-10 fanboy :3
what i wonder is, will it take out an m1a2 abrams, leopard 2a7, or t14 armata?
If that's not steam-punk, I don't know what is ...
its made before 1901 that means I can buy it and ship it to Australia and own it without a license that's a pretty mean machine even today it would take a lot to bring someone armed with that down i'm not sure the SWAT could manage as it would pierce their APCs and down their helicopters
If they could find enough ammo to do that is.
Yeah not to mention if you do find the ammo its 61 bucks a shot, 200 rounds a min , so thats what 12k dollars for a min of fire :P
800 yd extreme range... any .50 gunner worth his salt could chop you to pieces with impunity from 1000. it'll pierce an inch of brittle iron plate at 100 yds, which means it won't do much more than dent a thick aluminum hull on an APC like the cops buy almost everywhere, and that probably out to only about 250 yds. assuming you had a huge pile of ammo, i'd give you about a 45 second combat life expectancy... i'd say hold out for one of the nazi UFO tech aircraft, lol. your example will have a finale like your local tale of ned kelly, best case scenario, or like dresden germany in a less ideal time line. neither would be a pleasant end to a saturday afternoon, promise
Somebody in 1890s: Give this hugeass machine gun the CUTEST name ever for military equipment.
I do believe this thing in working order could still do a heck of a lot of damage. There are even more damaging options available.
Tiny pistol grip looks funny