8.3 Update here. Didn#t believe this to work because the Charm would not drop for about 2 hours. Got it off a quest mob in the end. And Candrael Twinshadow only appears on the cliff after obtaining the Charm.
I'm such an idiot. I looked up the hidden appearances months ago and spent a few hours here and there farming, but the charm didn't drop for me. I did all that without checking if I could talk to the NPC. So, I went there just now, and lo and behold, the monster was up there flying. I killed it and got the appearances. I guess it dropped for me years ago, and I didn't notice because I didn't turn in anything to her. 😂
i just see your video, and then farm some day for 20-30 min and nothing :D then i search in google and see one comment when they say, that you don't need the item, soooo i checked. I go to the NPC Candrael Twinshadow and talk with her, she throw me to the Downfall and i killed him and BOOM ! I just loot the item :)
hey I’m really hoping you see this but do I need to have all the other versions of the Warglaives to use this as a transmog in terms of havoc. I have none unlocked and I got the achievement and all I just don’t know how to use them
Each artifact appearance is independent. You don’t need any of the others. You may need to acquire at least one of the artifact weapons though. Also when you first learn an appearance you have to relog for it to appear in your transmog collection.
How do i go about getting a different look or style on my blades, am a havoc dh at 120 but am getting bored with the look for my blades and see other with cool blades.
All the different tints and appearances are unlocked through Legion content. This video describes how you can get the base form of the hidden appearances. You can see how to get the rest by going to your Legion order hall and clicking on the artifact forge. The appearances tab show the different looks and how to get them.
Can you still get these I left a month before legion just got back dh is my fav class now but all the cool weapon xmogs and artifacts I’m unsure which are still aquireable
You do still need to get the Charm so if you could see Downfall it likely means you looted the Charm at some point in the past without realizing it. But grats on getting the appearance regardless!
one question, the mech is the same if you're in bfa or something changes? also, i didn't finished the campaign, i need to do it? (english is not my native language, sorry if there is any mistakes ://)
Everything is still the same except you don't need to worry about Artifact Knowledge. You just need to be level 110. As for the campaign, you only need to go as far as to recruit Loramus and unlock the advancement tree so you can get the trait I mentioned for Vengeance. Hope that helps!
Late to the party - I'm on a 120 DH, and have been working my way through the Order Hall Campaign (as this was something someone advised was necessary - however I can't confirm). I have been farming mobs for hours over different days and still don't have the drop. Is there any other pre-requesite? I still can't see Candrael Twinshadow either. AM I supposed to have done something else in Suramar zone for her to spawn?
Unfortunately, that one is purely RNG, so it can take a long time to drop if you're unlucky. Just keep trying and don't give up. You'll get it eventually.
@@GandalinGaming While i appreciate its RNG (which is fine) i'm trying to make sure there's no other factors i'm failing to realise i'm missing. Do i need to have completed the class hall campaign? is there any other quest progress that is required? do i need to have the twinblades of deceiver equipped? 12 hours after posting my original one - and have been questing all through Suramar, and progressing through class hall .. i still havent had a drop. It's frustrating to not know if theres something other than just pure RNG i am not taking into account. :) Thanks for the reply though.
@@GandalinGaming how long have you been playing wow? I just started when BFA came out lol so everyitn is like all new to me and I get lost a lot.. how long did it take you to not get lost? I know stupid question but I guess I just get tired of getting lost lol
Pretty much everything is the same. The only change that came with Shadowlands was the level squish, so for that appearance, you'll need to be level 45 before the item will drop. Unfortunately, it's just a random drop and the chance isn't that great, so it can take a while. Don't give up!
Yeah, we're pretty sure it can come from any mob in Suramar. Lots of people like farming in Felsoul Hold or the Gilded Market over in the city. High mob density and respawn rate. Just keep at it!
For the Vengeance appearance, you do need to do a little bit of the Demon Hunter Order Hall Campaign, just so you can unlock the NPC who lets you upgrade the order hall. That's the only way to access the mob that drops the appearance. Hope that helps!
You need to at least part of it, as for Vengeance, you need access to the order hall upgrade I mentioned. So you have to progress far enough to unlock that system, but you don't have to do the whole thing.
@@GandalinGaming Oh boy , i have done the first part i guess where you have the quests in the table , now i have a question to kill someone in highmoutain, suramar and valsharah, quest is deal with it personally
Loramus is only needed for the Vengeance appearance. For the Havoc appearance, you need to be level 110 before you start farming for the Charm in Suramar. But otherwise, you're all set.
hello guys i tried to get it this days i've been farming for soo long the item didnt droped and when i did go to check the npc that knocks you to the air i didnt found her is it removed on bfa patch 8.3.0 ? or is it because i dont have artaficat knowledge i didnt played legion soo i cant get them now what should i do please
Artifact Knowledge isn't important anymore so you can ignore that part. You can still get these appearances in BfA. Nothing was removed. It sounds like you've just had some bad luck. Keep farming for the item. It will drop eventually.
@@GandalinGaming the problem isnt about the item the problem is that i didnt found the npc that knocks you to the air why should i do something so she will spawn or what ?
The NPC won't be there until you've looted the item and have it in your bags. I don't know of any reason she wouldn't be there other than not having the item with you.
But when I went to find the girl with whom I have to talk to call the NPC, I did not find her (obviously I still do not farm the object) that's why I could not see her?
sup man, farmed the charm with my friend, he got it eventually. He did the boss and looted him, but I never received the item in my mailbox. Any ideas?
i'm going to try this tonight or maybe 2mrow, i farmed it and having to guild dh's come with me, will come back and report either way. hope they can still get it
we just tired with a group of four of us, someone had the idea to kill other things around the body of where i found downfall had fallen. no one got it in the mail but one had gotten the charm from the other demons
What I meant is that Artifact Knowledge is automatically granted to all level 110 players. It used to automatically increase one level per week, but we're now at the cap, so once you hit level 110, you automatically get AK level 55. So for the hidden appearance, you just need to hit 110 to get the Knowledge level it requires. Hope that makes it clearer. :)
does this still work? I've been killing mobs for a solid 30 minutes of straight combat and haen't got it yet (talking about the charm for havoc) EDIT: 1 hour and 57 minutes in I finally got it
Info for everyone that wants the hidden skin before bfa, just go to so speak with candrael and kill the red bat and it drops, you dont need the charm, i got it in less than 30 sec
then i think its something added with the last patches, so can get it before BfA, im saying this because i never completed suramar quest line and never went in that area before looking for hidden artifact, if you have another character at 110 you could go there and try
You just farm for it in Suramar. There are a few locations that people suggest. The one in my video is the area in northern Felsoul Hold that has basilisks.
It's so funny because I read something about the hidden appearances, and it said you can fight the nether portal boss, and so I went to him to fight him and I got one of the coolest hidden appearances.
Legion artifact transmogs are in a separate drop down menu in the weapon transmog interface. Also, you cannot transmog them separately or apply the appearance to your off hand. You need to apply it to your main hand weapon and it will then also transmog your off hand.
@@GandalinGaming I could not find the comment I put on this .. but I was so freaking excited I had to tell you.. I finally got it I got the necklace after about 1 hour farming and then went and killed the bat now I ain't feeling left out cause I got the hidden appearance lol. Thank u so much for all the positive vibes because it's like great players like you that are respectful and nice that makes these games fun and exciting :). Thank u again :)
You can still unlock the hidden skins and once you do, you can use the Transmogrification system to make your current weapons look like the hidden skins. :)
@@GandalinGaming hi I just started playing this game this expansion and I was wondering to farm for this do I need my legiondiry on while farming for this? Some have told me that but idk it just don't sound right .. thank you have a blessed day
Hate this part : "you got CHANCE for droop .... " why this CHANCES are 0.0001% ? like with DK unholy and now this i spend hours and still shit, this game is more like casino than game where SKILLS are important :(
RNG has always been a part of WoW. I understand how frustrating it can be. I have terrible luck. But we just have to accept that some things don't go our way.
Extremely helpful as always!
Glad to see a notification from you.
Thanks! Holidays were crazy, but I'm back and ready to pump out more guides! Stay tuned! :)
8.3 Update here. Didn#t believe this to work because the Charm would not drop for about 2 hours. Got it off a quest mob in the end. And Candrael Twinshadow only appears on the cliff after obtaining the Charm.
Glad you got it! All the hidden appearances are still obtainable. Some, like this one, are just RNG, so it can take a while.
hello, how did you get this hidden artifact? so far I couldn't
The Havoc appearance can take a while. It’s just RNG.
@@GandalinGaming thank you my friend, i'll be trying to hug you from brazil
So happy to see a new video!
So happy to put out a new video! :D
Three hours in and still no Candrael's Charm. Bleh. But thanks a million for the how to!
You’ll get it eventually! Just keep at it!
Finally got it after 5 hours! That was a slog!
I started at 8:10pm and finished at 00:25
An illidari cannot be stopped💪🏻
haha Wow. Well, congrats!
Saman cringechamp
I'm such an idiot. I looked up the hidden appearances months ago and spent a few hours here and there farming, but the charm didn't drop for me. I did all that without checking if I could talk to the NPC. So, I went there just now, and lo and behold, the monster was up there flying. I killed it and got the appearances. I guess it dropped for me years ago, and I didn't notice because I didn't turn in anything to her. 😂
i just see your video, and then farm some day for 20-30 min and nothing :D then i search in google and see one comment when they say, that you don't need the item, soooo i checked. I go to the NPC Candrael Twinshadow and talk with her, she throw me to the Downfall and i killed him and BOOM ! I just loot the item :)
Glad you got it!
Yay gandalin senpai is back
:D
Thanks, got it within 30min.
Glad to be of help! Enjoy your new appearances!
hey I’m really hoping you see this but do I need to have all the other versions of the Warglaives to use this as a transmog in terms of havoc. I have none unlocked and I got the achievement and all I just don’t know how to use them
Each artifact appearance is independent. You don’t need any of the others. You may need to acquire at least one of the artifact weapons though. Also when you first learn an appearance you have to relog for it to appear in your transmog collection.
i recommend farm Nightborne Trapper near Crismon Thicket about 0.14 chance of dropping, its about 30min+ of farming for me :D
Thanks for the info!
Gandalin but i killed also those cats near the spot and the felboure trappers it took me like 30 min to get the charm. Good luck bro
Been farming this spot for an hour and nothing...
Chris Haugh it depends on luck as anything needs grind just keep going farm it kill everything on this area
Yeah I finally got it off one of the cats there after an hour. Never been too lucky in WOW anyways lol.
can u still do this?,.there is no loramus thalipedes when am down there..what do i got to do?
You need to progress through the demon hunter campaign a bit to unlock him.
Is the havoc skin still obtainable as of BFA 8.3?
Yes, it can still be obtained!
@@GandalinGaming thxx :D
Any idea what level you have to be now to unlock the artifact appearance?
After the level squish, level 110 in Legion is now level 45.
got it in 2 minutes, thanks!!!!
I found the item in cave easy
Congrats!
How do i go about getting a different look or style on my blades, am a havoc dh at 120 but am getting bored with the look for my blades and see other with cool blades.
All the different tints and appearances are unlocked through Legion content. This video describes how you can get the base form of the hidden appearances. You can see how to get the rest by going to your Legion order hall and clicking on the artifact forge. The appearances tab show the different looks and how to get them.
Can you still get these I left a month before legion just got back dh is my fav class now but all the cool weapon xmogs and artifacts I’m unsure which are still aquireable
You can still get all the artifact appearances except for the Mage Tower challenge appearances.
Gandalin that’s the coolest 1 no?
haha That depends on who you ask. I think many of them are very cool.
I've been trying to get the vengeance one for months and no luck.
oof That’s rough.
Is it still possible to get the Deathwalker appearance for Twin Blades?
Yes, everything is the same except you don't have to worry about Artifact Knowledge.
you don't need to get the charm as well. I went straight to kill the mob (Downfall) and got the "Guise of the Deathwalker" item on the first kill
You do still need to get the Charm so if you could see Downfall it likely means you looted the Charm at some point in the past without realizing it. But grats on getting the appearance regardless!
Hey man hope you're alright! I look forward to more vids!
Thanks. I'm sorry I've been gone so long. I took a teaching job this year and haven't had time to make videos. :(
@@GandalinGaming It's understandable! Wish you luck and we'll be ready for the vids when you have the chance! :D
I found the hidden appearance that turn my blades into the bone set but I can’t mog them. I do have a hidden set that is purple
When you earn a new appearance, you have log out and then back in for it to appear in your transmog list.
Nice guide, love it!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
does this work in BFA
Yes, you can still get all the hidden appearances in BfA and beyond.
@@GandalinGaming oke nice nice, thanks a lot my man
one question, the mech is the same if you're in bfa or something changes? also, i didn't finished the campaign, i need to do it?
(english is not my native language, sorry if there is any mistakes ://)
Everything is still the same except you don't need to worry about Artifact Knowledge. You just need to be level 110. As for the campaign, you only need to go as far as to recruit Loramus and unlock the advancement tree so you can get the trait I mentioned for Vengeance. Hope that helps!
Late to the party - I'm on a 120 DH, and have been working my way through the Order Hall Campaign (as this was something someone advised was necessary - however I can't confirm). I have been farming mobs for hours over different days and still don't have the drop. Is there any other pre-requesite? I still can't see Candrael Twinshadow either. AM I supposed to have done something else in Suramar zone for her to spawn?
Unfortunately, that one is purely RNG, so it can take a long time to drop if you're unlucky. Just keep trying and don't give up. You'll get it eventually.
@@GandalinGaming While i appreciate its RNG (which is fine) i'm trying to make sure there's no other factors i'm failing to realise i'm missing. Do i need to have completed the class hall campaign? is there any other quest progress that is required? do i need to have the twinblades of deceiver equipped? 12 hours after posting my original one - and have been questing all through Suramar, and progressing through class hall .. i still havent had a drop. It's frustrating to not know if theres something other than just pure RNG i am not taking into account. :) Thanks for the reply though.
@@GandalinGaming Ok another hour later and I finally got the Charm to drop - 5 mins later I have the appearance. :D Yay for RNG :P
Grats on finally getting it! That one is tough. There are no other special requirements. It's literally just RNG. haha
do i need to have the weapon equipped now? with the darkshore stuff im using those weapons instead
You do not need the weapon equipped. You can come back after Legion to keep farming the appearances.
Finally got it!!! Thx you so much 🙌
Glad I could help!
Good job gandalin
Thanks very much! Glad you liked it!
Do you need to complete the demon hunter campaign to get this???
You do not!
Yay got them finally and unlocked the purple shortly after thank u
Congrats! Glad I could help!
@@GandalinGaming how long have you been playing wow? I just started when BFA came out lol so everyitn is like all new to me and I get lost a lot.. how long did it take you to not get lost? I know stupid question but I guess I just get tired of getting lost lol
I have farmed felhold for 4hrs... has not dropped once. Is this info still relevant? I got a bunch of pets and other items though.
Pretty much everything is the same. The only change that came with Shadowlands was the level squish, so for that appearance, you'll need to be level 45 before the item will drop. Unfortunately, it's just a random drop and the chance isn't that great, so it can take a while. Don't give up!
@@GandalinGaming but it's anywhere in sumara right? So I can switch which mobs?
Yeah, we're pretty sure it can come from any mob in Suramar. Lots of people like farming in Felsoul Hold or the Gilded Market over in the city. High mob density and respawn rate. Just keep at it!
@@GandalinGaming I just got on to kill 10 mobs... the 3rd FINALLY dropped it!!! Ty!!!
There you go! Congrats!
do i have to compleet the normal campaign first to get it or ???
For the Vengeance appearance, you do need to do a little bit of the Demon Hunter Order Hall Campaign, just so you can unlock the NPC who lets you upgrade the order hall. That's the only way to access the mob that drops the appearance. Hope that helps!
And for the havoc one ?
That one is not connected to the campaign. Just loot the charm in Suramar and talk to Candrael.
Very useful. Thank you!
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching!
Hey, do you need to complete your class campaign for this?
You need to at least part of it, as for Vengeance, you need access to the order hall upgrade I mentioned. So you have to progress far enough to unlock that system, but you don't have to do the whole thing.
@@GandalinGaming Oh boy , i have done the first part i guess where you have the quests in the table , now i have a question to kill someone in highmoutain, suramar and valsharah, quest is deal with it personally
Once you recruit Loramus through the mission table then you should gain access to the advancement tree.
@@GandalinGaming yeah i have that guy up , so i just need to farm the charm in suramar?
Loramus is only needed for the Vengeance appearance. For the Havoc appearance, you need to be level 110 before you start farming for the Charm in Suramar. But otherwise, you're all set.
hello guys i tried to get it this days i've been farming for soo long the item didnt droped and when i did go to check the npc that knocks you to the air i didnt found her is it removed on bfa patch 8.3.0 ? or is it because i dont have artaficat knowledge i didnt played legion soo i cant get them now what should i do please
Artifact Knowledge isn't important anymore so you can ignore that part. You can still get these appearances in BfA. Nothing was removed. It sounds like you've just had some bad luck. Keep farming for the item. It will drop eventually.
@@GandalinGaming the problem isnt about the item the problem is that i didnt found the npc that knocks you to the air why should i do something so she will spawn or what ?
The NPC won't be there until you've looted the item and have it in your bags. I don't know of any reason she wouldn't be there other than not having the item with you.
just started a DH thanks for the info dude
Glad to be of help! Thanks for watching!
Is this video still accurate? I'm in felsoul hold, and I don't even see candrael where she's supposed to be.
NVM, it was just that even candrael no longer spawns unless you have the charm
he book didnt spawn for me at the bottom of the shit do i need rep?
No rep needed, but you need to progress far enough in the order hall campaign to unlock the advancement tree NPC. I think his name is Loramus.
@@GandalinGaming i have the cristal by the guy but i didnt see a book win i got up thare
You also need to get the research perk I mentioned in the video. Once it's complete, you should see the book to summon the rare.
@@GandalinGaming ok i got it and it droped thank you so mutch
Glad I could help! Grats on the new appearance!
Thx man it helps me a lot
:D
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!
Its possible do it in BFA at present?
As far as I know, yes, it is still possible.
But when I went to find the girl with whom I have to talk to call the NPC, I did not find her (obviously I still do not farm the object) that's why I could not see her?
Yeah, you can't see her until you loot the Charm.
awesome guide man thx
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
sup man, farmed the charm with my friend, he got it eventually. He did the boss and looted him, but I never received the item in my mailbox. Any ideas?
hmm It's possible this method changed with BfA. Hard to test it though. :/ Sorry!
i'm going to try this tonight or maybe 2mrow, i farmed it and having to guild dh's come with me, will come back and report either way. hope they can still get it
we just tired with a group of four of us, someone had the idea to kill other things around the body of where i found downfall had fallen. no one got it in the mail but one had gotten the charm from the other demons
Does it still work?
Yes, you can still get any of the hidden appearances from Legion!
@@GandalinGaming bruhhh ive been farming the mobs for over an hour now.. still no drop... 120DH (didnt play legion at all - if that matters?)
The only requirement is to be at least level 110. Unfortunately, it is completely RNG based. You’re just having bad luck. :/
yo just made a dh, when you say the level 5 is global does that mean i dont have to have it ? and still get the drop ?
What I meant is that Artifact Knowledge is automatically granted to all level 110 players. It used to automatically increase one level per week, but we're now at the cap, so once you hit level 110, you automatically get AK level 55. So for the hidden appearance, you just need to hit 110 to get the Knowledge level it requires. Hope that makes it clearer. :)
Spot on mate thanks and super speedy reply i like it !
I'm here to help! :D
mate went on a rampage of vidoes haha love them man
haha Thank you!
how long does it take to get the charm.
It depends on how lucky you are. It's all RNG, so it could drop it 5 min or 5 hours. Just keep killing mobs in the zone until you get it.
Was doing some WQ in Suramar the other day and I got that charm... Vendored it because I didn't know what it was :(
You can do an item restoration to get it back. Google “wow item restoration” and it should be the first link.
Worked, thanks :)
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
Ty for guide, that neck was actualy in my bank all legion (i just dnt know for wht this need), and after video i get neck and take look)
Glad I could help!
I have a havoc dh and I can't find downfall, is it out of date or rare spawn?
You can only see him after you've looted Candrael's Charm. He won't spawn for you otherwise.
does this still work? I've been killing mobs for a solid 30 minutes of straight combat and haen't got it yet
(talking about the charm for havoc)
EDIT: 1 hour and 57 minutes in I finally got it
It does. Unfortunately, it's just RNG. The only requirement for it is to be level 110. Then you just have to get lucky. Don't give up!
In what area were u farming it?
Grats on getting it!
I got mine from the basilisks in Felsoul Hold.
Aldo F Mayo all over Surumar city. Just fighting from one side to the other and back. I'd actually given up and was fighting my way out when I got it
Info for everyone that wants the hidden skin before bfa, just go to so speak with candrael and kill the red bat and it drops, you dont need the charm, i got it in less than 30 sec
Interesting. I'm curious if this is actually the case or if you looted the charm in the past and didn't notice. Either way, thanks for the info!
Gandalin it should be tried, i have a question, can the charm be sell to npc vendors?
I don't think it can. It does disappear when you talk to Candrael though.
then i think its something added with the last patches, so can get it before BfA, im saying this because i never completed suramar quest line and never went in that area before looking for hidden artifact, if you have another character at 110 you could go there and try
This would be a nice change, since the charm has a relatively low drop rate.
Good to find you friend ;) very nice info !!!
+ sub 👍
Thank you so much!
Upsetting that Doomfall doesnt drop the skin anymore. He cant be looted :(
You need to have the charm in your bag when you talk to Candrael or you won't get loot from Downfall.
Gandalin is it a questline or you just start farming for the charm in that area?
You just farm for it in Suramar. There are a few locations that people suggest. The one in my video is the area in northern Felsoul Hold that has basilisks.
Gandalin ok thanks
Gandalin how long did it take you?
It's so funny because I read something about the hidden appearances, and it said you can fight the nether portal boss, and so I went to him to fight him and I got one of the coolest hidden appearances.
I do like the Vengeance one. Very cool looking.
I cant transmog them
Legion artifact transmogs are in a separate drop down menu in the weapon transmog interface. Also, you cannot transmog them separately or apply the appearance to your off hand. You need to apply it to your main hand weapon and it will then also transmog your off hand.
ty mate!
Happy to help!
finally got it
Congrats!
The best guide-tuber🤘🏻
You are too kind! :D
your super helpful
Thanks so much! Glad to hear it!
i think you cant get it anymore there is no one named candrael there
You can only see her after you’ve looted the charm. All hidden appearances can still be obtained after Legion.
i was losing hope after i farmed it for 2 hours but thanks again youre awesome you always reply back to me
I do my best! I hope you get the charm soon! :)
@@GandalinGaming I could not find the comment I put on this .. but I was so freaking excited I had to tell you.. I finally got it I got the necklace after about 1 hour farming and then went and killed the bat now I ain't feeling left out cause I got the hidden appearance lol. Thank u so much for all the positive vibes because it's like great players like you that are respectful and nice that makes these games fun and exciting :). Thank u again :)
i wish keep in sadowland hidden skins :[
You can still unlock the hidden skins and once you do, you can use the Transmogrification system to make your current weapons look like the hidden skins. :)
thank u i've ben looking for this everywhere but it was always 1 or 2 years old now i know how to get what i want great vid m8
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching!
Just got mine took me 58 kills and twice fighting this dude
Congrats!
@@GandalinGaming ty for ur guied i tryed this 2 years ago it was impossible so finaly its mine lol 🤣
I’m glad I could help. :) Thanks for watching!
@@GandalinGaming hi I just started playing this game this expansion and I was wondering to farm for this do I need my legiondiry on while farming for this? Some have told me that but idk it just don't sound right .. thank you have a blessed day
You do not need to have your Legion artifact equipped to farm for the hidden appearances!
I just deleted the item from my bag :D
You can use item restoration to get it back! us.battle.net/support/en/restoration
Hate this part : "you got CHANCE for droop .... " why this CHANCES are 0.0001% ? like with DK unholy and now this i spend hours and still shit, this game is more like casino than game where SKILLS are important :(
RNG has always been a part of WoW. I understand how frustrating it can be. I have terrible luck. But we just have to accept that some things don't go our way.
After 2 hours still no charm. Oh maaan...
Yeah, that one can take a while since it's RNG. But keep trying! Don't give up!
they jsut dont look tht good so i wont be doing it
And that’s certainly your choice. Plus they aren’t going away after Legion so you could always get them later if you change your mind.
IDD:)
Does this still work??
Yes, all hidden appearances can still be obtained. Anything that required level 110 now requires level 45 after the level squish in Shadowlands.