At least they mention him & give him extra credit - he did not crack Enigma. He simply improved on work of others. But these others are not British so they are not even given credit.
@@tomk3732 You are cherry picking details now. They did a whole ton of work, had to basically re-break the improved version of the enigma cuz the polish had do handover their work to also the germans after capture, which they used to improve the enigma machine and make it much harder to break. And the british where the ones to also use it during war. Dont make it out to be as if Alan in his team only did some afterwork
sadly gay like all movies have to be im not homophobic but I dont like that most movies put homosexuals in them like its a trend it feels like they are putting them in as a joke
@@kbf5301 no? from the polish govurment themselves thay say that they HELPED turing break the code and that is what they ask for to be told dont let nationalism blind you for reality
Intolerance is order. Rules are Intolerant and rules are what keep our society together. We shall enforce our rules / beliefs and evolve them lest we fall back into the dark ages, into the abhorrent immorality that drove forward your comment and return us into short, undignified existence. We are selfish by nature, we are evil by birth and we excuse this things we hate, with simplified moral lies, meant to shape our personality. We are kept in check by the threat of physical violence… by fear of imprisonment. This actions justified by the “intolerant” rules and excuses to feign power over others. This is not horror… this is reality. This is not bad, since without it… it’s worse.
@@62sy when you say undignified existence you mean existence you dont agree with? When you say order you mean an order in which people are praised for killing a man and executed for loving one? Thats order? That seems like chaos to me.
@@stevenwier1783 chaos? How is that chaos? Aren’t you the one that disagrees with those rules? Makes no difference wether you consider those rules good or bad… both are subjective and thus are ever changing. Back then that was order and that was good. Those were rules and people were indoctrinated to follow them. It’s no different now. Only that the rules have changed… we are still indoctrinated to obey the system. I wonder how you see enforcement of rules as chaos? Killing someone doesn’t necessarily create chaos. When it’s done to enforce a rule aimed to keep people in checnk, it’s order. No! I mean the undignified living conditions in the medieval times or before that! Even today there are places where in relative to modern countries, dignity isn’t present. Human rights are forgotten and people are put into in a constant survival situation, where they have to fight for their life on a daily basis. That is not a dignified existence. Heavy hegemony is why the countries who are considered to be better, have citizens leading what’s considered “better lives”.
One of Britains greatest heroes pivotal in defeating the nazis force fed medication due to his sexuality that made him depressed and ultimately commit suicide. Well done Britain
Bruh stfu it’s a horrible story but it’s also one of inspiration. This is how it’s done time and time again. You can find plenty of stories where people are fucked over by upper management & royalty who do great things just to end up miserable and depressed.
@Owl_Lover your good isn’t real no god is just accept the fact that when you die there is no after life and you will just feed the earth with your body when you die. the idea that there’s something out there that made all of us is dumb so quit living your life by a book one of us humans wrote
@@evanflredondo A super high schooler that strong enough to effortlessly fighting a brainwashed super soldier with robotic arms, lifting a car, and stop an advancing bus that pretty much generated 5 tons of force
They didn't mention anything about his past or who Christopher actually was. Alan went to an all boys boarding school and was bullied, and Christopher was his only friend. Christopher was the one who introduced crossword puzzles and cryptography to him, and they would pass coded notes to each other in class. Alan developed feelings for Christopher but when he went to see him after winter break, he learns that Christopher died of tuberculosis. That's why he named his "machine" Christopher.
My grandfather was a cryptographer in WW2. He translated and decrypted Japanese radio transmissions. Alan Turing was his hero for his entire life and he spoke about him daily until he passed at 94 a few years ago. He often said "The world owes Alan Turing everything, but firstly it owes him an apology."
Christopher was his child hood crush that helped him both were very smart but sadly Christopher died from a disease and so Alan wanted to let him relive in his machine Also every computer now is based on his machine which is the first high functioning one
I'm a German, and I salute to this great individual. It's a shame that he got punished for his incredible deeds to humanity with psychological terror, just because of his sexual orientation. He should had been born today, so the world could had benefited from his creativity as long as he lived.
discovering the code had been a secret for over 50 years before it was published by the UK .so no one knew what he did except by his co-workers and bosses
the enigma machine stayed a secret for 50ish years to the point where the UK even let USA claim records for creating the 1st mechanical PC. it wasnt until the 1990's did UK release all the records and showcase the machine. there was even reports that most generals and Winston himself didnt even know about the machine and the fact the enigma code had been cracked by those few people because it was such sensitive information. its a fascinating story about the whole thing including the secrecy for 50+ years but at same time such a sad one that a guy who truly deserves the title genius was treated like he was.
Such Potential, such dedication to solving Enigma, cutting the war by 2 years and saving millions of lives in the process. In the end, all he got was hormonal therapy, depression, and suicide. Who knows, what he could have accomplished, had he been given a chance to live more time, who knows how many more discoveries he could have made had live longer. A incredible mind, snuffed out just because he was Gay. Great job Britain, add that to the long list of crimes you have committed.
Well maybe not Britain, but Britain at that time. I myself am British and if I was engaged in a war and some gay guy managed to crack some code and saved my life and loads of others, I probably wouldn’t give him loads of drugs until he kills himself
@@jacknelson3044 Well you are welcome to compete with America about who committed more crimes. We here in the civilized work acknowledge the mistakes we made and try to do better in the future. And what makes you think I would defend America here ?
@@m24213 lol I am American dipstick and the country was literally built on war crimes against native tribes, smallpox blankets is a good example but go ahead and run your mouth about something you know nothing about. R u even Amerikan bruh
@@jacknelson3044 I am not American actually, the point I was trying to make is that, i don't care about what other nations did at this moment, what happened to Alan Turing was an injustice. That cannot justified by other nations doing other crimes.
It's quite an accomplishment to save 14 million lives. When you think about it, he saved more than that. Think of how many lives saved, and accomplishments those 14 million lives have had a chance to do, thanks to Alan Turing.
also he helped create agriculture as we know it today helping most of the western world recover from the world wars and famines/disease that happened around them with his mathematics. some of the equations he did are still used today in working out crop rotations and a few other important aspects. will be one of Britain's darkest spots imagine how far technology could have jumped even faster if he had been praised and supported through his whole life. human race can do such amazing things but at same time can be so cruel to each other over things that really do not matter at all aslong as the person is not harming anyone.
They believe the death rate in WW2 had about seven million deaths per year..... . that's why they said 14 million.. BUT The current estimates actually have it higher now.. around 30 million lives that Alan Turing saved and shorten the war by 4 years!
When I’m high, I usually come to this channel and look for movie suggestions. The background music really puts the vibe to it, sometimes I don’t even watch the movie, just by watching these videos, it really makes it feel like I’m watching it, keep up the great work.
My second favourite movie of all time 1 of 5 I can happily rewatch which I have more than 10 times. Heartbreaking how he was treated after he saved 14 million people and saved the others from two years of more war. Not just a national hero an international hero.
This video touched me and made me cry,especially the ending part,Where Alan later died and his invention wad noticed by everyone and through this he saved 14 million lives for two years 😭😿🙀😢😣😟
Alan's death is so painful and more painful with the background song,it brings heavenly grace,but also brings sorrow,sadness,depression and break down.
Benedict Cumberbatch has played 2 important characters with the number 14 million involved being saved. It's a big stretch but I like to see the parallel
We wouldent have a comment section today without him. He legot built the foundation of a tonne of our lives. Nobody alive today hasent been somehow impacted by him and thats kinda amazing and insane. Not to mention what he did at he time. Deserved so much better.
I got to handle a real 3-rotor and a 4-rotor Enigma at my college’s Library that was gifted by the wife of a Computer Science professor at the University after the professor passed away. Amazing pieces of technology.
What a tragedy. He shortened the war, saved millions of people, advanced mathematics and computers, saved the UK govt and he was made a criminal simply because of how he was born. I hope you found peace Alan. The world just wasn't ready for your greatness
Actually Enigma was cracked in 1932 by Polish Cipher Bureau and Alan wouldn't do shit w/o it as he was working using Zygalski's Sheets and Bomba Rejewskeigo British intelligence got from Poland after German's changed way of ciphering so {CB run out of funds to make all needed ZS and BR, but of course who fucking cares, "British made it".
@@ThatNofbody doesn't matter though, if you are gay back then it does not matter where you were ..usa,uk or soviet the government and the people won't be on your side
@@Tragedyval so dont be on peoples side and save them, it is suppose to matter for you also otherwise we are all doomed by the straight arrogance and war
The polish knew the Germans would try to use different variations and/or upgrade the security on their enigma, the poles just didn’t have the time or money. Read x y and x by dermot Turing.
In my masters there was a whole subject dedicated for machine learning, it was very tough for me and somehow I managed to pass. If only I had an opportunity to watch this movie I might have given more interest and intention to it. Greater movie and such a great personality Alan Turner
It’s possible that some senior Germans strongly suspected the Enigma had been cracked, Wilhelm Canaris perhaps did, but to inform the German army when the war was already lost would have only lengthened the war leading to millions more deaths but an eventual loss anyway so they kept quiet.
There was quite a bit that was inaccurate about this film, even in the first two minutes. Even with those inaccuracies, this is still a very good movie and one of the most emotional I've seen in recent years. Benedict Cumberbatch (who plays Alan Turing) even discovered he's related to Turing while he was filming! Even though I can point out everything that's wrong with this film historically, I'm always going to enjoy it. RIP to Alan Turing and all the members of Hut 8 and Bletchley Park who helped us to win a war. We are eternally grateful for your hard work, dedication, and sacrifice.
What a heartbreak for him. It’s true brilliance has little place in this world unless it’s heavily protected. The thinking during and after WW II feels so primitive looking back on it. While it may feel a freer place in today’s world for people to admit they are different, the older generation with their more limited outlook are not all dead yet. They still exert influence in todays world . They still affect cultural norms.
Not only did he save millions of lives and end the war, he was the first to create a "digital computer". He created the first computer and published his theories and work in a research journal and titled it "The Imitation Game". He was the first person to consider if a machine could think like a human. He founded computer science. I had never even heard of him until I watched this movie, and I can't believe he was never recognized for his creations. He was fired because he was gay, and only recognized and pardoned in 2013, long after he had committed suicide. Everyone in the world should know his name. Without him the world wouldn't have anything that we have today: computers, phones, AI, etc.
Fun fact: the war sent Britain broke and afterwards they kept essentially the invention of the computer a secret but eventually gave the secret to the CIA. Good job Britian.
The Polish solved before the brits did at the start of each message was 3 random letters which were encoded ABC so the other operator knew which key setting to use
Yes they did, the polish cypher bureau also shared their secrets with the French and the British on their secret meeting in July 1939 just 2 months before Poland got invaded…. Please do some damn research instead of fantasizing about Hollywood bullshit.
My heart is pained each time I think of Alan Turing. In a math college course, probably Discrete Math, Alan Turing's name was mentioned a bit. No one went into great deal talking about him in that book.
Just to remember that: "three Polish mathematicians who cracked the German Enigma code in World War II. Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Różycki".
The original Enigma machine was broken by the Polish Cypher Bureau between the wars. The decoding machine used in the film was a copy of Polish one. Yet the Poles got 1 line of mention in the film.
Ah British propaganda. Everyone should know that Enigma was cracked in Poland before the start of WWII. It was Polish mathematicians that cracked it. They even designed the "bomba" machines for more advanced model of Enigma. These were build by the British. Turing was a great mathematician, he did advanced work on Enigma cracking but cannot be credited as the first one to do so. He simply improved on work already done.
Enigma wasn’t even the hardest cipher to crack, it was actually the Lorenz which Alan Turing had nothing to do with. That would fall to the honor of John tiltman, Bill Tutte and Tommy flowers.
I can relate Alan Turing past life who’s been bullied in his childhood and having hard time socializing with his colleagues/friends especially he’s been a loner his whole life.
@@gameLode I didn't know that. I'm going to have to get one of those, frame it, and put it on my wall. I studied computer science in college, in the 80s. The very first thing they taught us was that the computer is a "Turing Machine". It didn't mean anything to me at the time. Later, when I learned more about him, learned about Enigma, learned the breadth of his scientific accomplishments in his short life and read what the British government did to him, I was shocked. What a travesty. Let us hope everyone learns from it.
Yes thats true, Enigma was updated by Nazis on multiple occasions. Keep in mind Rejewski also broke the code of Enigma in 1940 in presence of Alan Turing in Paris. Its not to take away from fact Turing was a genius, but to show how British government was so arrogant when it came to WW2 achievements. Also, as the comment above, it was a whole team of scientists working there.
@@musicismoreimportantthanyo9246 in December of 1932. In 1939 as German war threats were looming high, Poland passed on information and reconstructed enigma machines to French and British intelligence.
I hate that the defining factor for for society for this this man was his sexuality. Not a single being could even fathom the idea of what he was creating until he explained it and they butchered him and his potential....I always remember this movie since seeing it. It has a permanent place in my mind and I wish it did for everyone.
Alan Turing was a hero, not a war hero but simply a hero. This man was one of the greatest minds of all time and is the reason the allies won the war, and yet it took them until 2013 to ‘pardon’ him.
Obviously they cut out a sizable portion of the people who did work on it that sadly doesn't get the credit because the lone genius story with maybe help from a few select people is something we are so very familliar with. That being said we punished a man who was a key component in ending a war the likes of which likely did a lot more than this title suggest. i don't think it's a stretch to say that he very possibly saved the planet because who knows what damage would have been done if we had kept using more nukes. I was lucky in that I had a history teacher that would go off book because at the same time we covered WW2 in junior high and was shown movies like Schindler's List and Downfall. It was just about the time where more and more of Turings work was made public before we got most of the declassified things shown in the movie. And he was the kind of great teacher that could just comfortably lean on his desk and tell stories that made you want to pay attention. I was flabbergasted when I first heard it, I had heard the stories from and about my grandparents and great grandparents having to live through the occupation and some of them are really horrible. I just think it's also somewhat sick to think about how countries joined in to stop what was agreed to be an existential evil and at the same time being capable of such an evil thing as this.
They've cut literally whole Polish Cipher Bureau, which is hilarious considering that Turning's team literally worked using tools made by it's members.
@@Petaurista13 Yup, but we also kinda do that in real life, I mean we have told countless stories from the American and British perspective of the war, but we tend to overlook the countries that it took over except for France in certain movies. And yeah I understand why Americans wasn't too fond of talking about it given what happened between the two nations for the next almost half century, but Russian forces and aid were also instrumental. I get why, they had their own problematic figure at the time and there was a worry that they might finish and succeed where the Germans failed.
In december of 1932, three polish mathematicians: Rejewski, Zygalski and Różycki cracked the code of first Enigma. British didnt get the Enigma itself from germany. They had decoding mashine from Polish which they build themself to decode first models of enigma devices. So it looks like the British wanna take the glory of Polish once again. Shame :(
He is the father of the computer, he predicted that eventually computers will become so advance that we won't people able to tell the difference in conversation, we have now surpassed that point with chatbots
You forgot von Neumann (who was considered even smarter than many scientists like Einstein or Edward teller) Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace who built the first computer, and Kurt godel who allowed the Turing machines to be possible. You then have people like Tommy flowers who built the first programmable computer called colossus with his own money with very little (if not any help from Turing) and Bill Tutte who actually got rejected by Alan Turing in an interview because Turing thought that Tutte was not a good fit for the enigma team only for Tutte to turn around and work on the Lorenz team (nicknamed tunny by Bletechy park) by cracking it’s settings without ever actually seeing the machine which to me is far more impressive than engima. For all these reasons, this imitation game movie is most of the most historically inaccurate and disrespectful movies I’ve seen not because I’m trying to downplay Turing’s intelligence (obviously a brilliant guy in real life who should of never gotten arrested for being gay), but because it prays on people who are ignorant as hell.
You forgot von Neumann (who was considered even smarter than many scientists like Einstein or Edward teller) Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace who built the first computer, and Kurt godel who allowed the Turing machines to be possible. You then have people like Tommy flowers who built the first programmable computer called colossus with his own money with very little (if not any help from Turing) and Bill Tutte who actually got rejected by Alan Turing in an interview because Turing thought that Tutte was not a good fit for the enigma team only for Tutte to turn around and work on the Lorenz team (nicknamed tunny by Bletechy park) by cracking it’s settings without ever actually seeing the machine which to me is far more impressive than engima. For all these reasons, this imitation game movie is most of the most historically inaccurate and disrespectful movies I’ve seen not because I’m trying to downplay Turing’s intelligence (obviously a brilliant guy in real life who should of never gotten arrested for being gay), but because it prays on people who are ignorant as hell.
The Apple logo is based on Turing. It has one bite missing which is a nod to the cyanide laced apple Turing used to commit suicide. The original logo even had a rainbow on the apple.
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Movie : The Imitation Game (2014)
Watched it in theaters 😊
@@musicismoreimportantthanyo9246 we watched it in class and it was so good
@@nikmrn in class?
Your teacher showed it?
@@musicismoreimportantthanyo9246 yeah we watched it together
I Saw That movie in school
Man helps save the world. Gets fucked by the government he saved.
What a way to thank a hero.
And not just saved the world, he created the modern one because computers changed everything.
Yeah that’s what happens to every hero.
At least they mention him & give him extra credit - he did not crack Enigma. He simply improved on work of others. But these others are not British so they are not even given credit.
Reminded of Green Goblin’s quote
@@tomk3732 You are cherry picking details now. They did a whole ton of work, had to basically re-break the improved version of the enigma cuz the polish had do handover their work to also the germans after capture, which they used to improve the enigma machine and make it much harder to break. And the british where the ones to also use it during war. Dont make it out to be as if Alan in his team only did some afterwork
Wild that it took until 2013 to pardon him. Alan Turing was not only a hero but one of the greatest minds of all time.
Queen’s dementia got better that year
You don’t need a pardon for doing nothing wrong. They need the pardon, not him.
Many of us owe him our very existence. Thank you Allen.
He died in the 50s.These pardons are just publicity stunts. The dead don't care how much the living harmed them.
Man literally makes first computer and they condemn him due to sexuality. Really dumb.
There is so much more to Alan Turing’s story. Such a magnificent, brilliant mind.
Yes... An unsung hero to many, as it should be in times like those!
sadly gay like all movies have to be
im not homophobic but I dont like that most movies put homosexuals in them like its a trend it feels like they are putting them in as a joke
@@scottthesmartape9151 yeah 🤔
@@scottthesmartape9151 He was actually gay you dimwit. It's an integral part of the injustice he suffered.
@@scottthesmartape9151 the person the movie was based off of was gay
He saved more than 14 million lives, shorted the war by two years and still his live couldn’t be saved. So heartbreaking
there were many more people that helped him. he was incredible and deserves attention but so do all the other people that helped break enigma
@@sharkbaith00haha38 bruh, 3 Polish mathematics cracked enigma before ww2
That's the amount of timelines Dr. Strange saw in Infinity War.
@@kbf5301 part of it.
@@kbf5301 no? from the polish govurment themselves thay say that they HELPED turing break the code and that is what they ask for to be told
dont let nationalism blind you for reality
The way he was treated at the end is heartbreaking. Intolerance is cruel and ugly.
Intolerance is order. Rules are Intolerant and rules are what keep our society together. We shall enforce our rules / beliefs and evolve them lest we fall back into the dark ages, into the abhorrent immorality that drove forward your comment and return us into short, undignified existence.
We are selfish by nature, we are evil by birth and we excuse this things we hate, with simplified moral lies, meant to shape our personality.
We are kept in check by the threat of physical violence… by fear of imprisonment. This actions justified by the “intolerant” rules and excuses to feign power over others.
This is not horror… this is reality. This is not bad, since without it… it’s worse.
@@62sy This mentality checks out with your username, for only someone like that could think so.
@@62sy
You have an interesting perspective to say the least.
@@62sy when you say undignified existence you mean existence you dont agree with? When you say order you mean an order in which people are praised for killing a man and executed for loving one? Thats order? That seems like chaos to me.
@@stevenwier1783 chaos? How is that chaos? Aren’t you the one that disagrees with those rules? Makes no difference wether you consider those rules good or bad… both are subjective and thus are ever changing. Back then that was order and that was good. Those were rules and people were indoctrinated to follow them. It’s no different now. Only that the rules have changed… we are still indoctrinated to obey the system.
I wonder how you see enforcement of rules as chaos? Killing someone doesn’t necessarily create chaos. When it’s done to enforce a rule aimed to keep people in checnk, it’s order.
No! I mean the undignified living conditions in the medieval times or before that! Even today there are places where in relative to modern countries, dignity isn’t present. Human rights are forgotten and people are put into in a constant survival situation, where they have to fight for their life on a daily basis. That is not a dignified existence.
Heavy hegemony is why the countries who are considered to be better, have citizens leading what’s considered “better lives”.
One of Britains greatest heroes pivotal in defeating the nazis force fed medication due to his sexuality that made him depressed and ultimately commit suicide. Well done Britain
Bruh stfu it’s a horrible story but it’s also one of inspiration. This is how it’s done time and time again. You can find plenty of stories where people are fucked over by upper management & royalty who do great things just to end up miserable and depressed.
@@capitalizingcapitalist1202 no need to be rude fam, they're not saying the story isn't inspirational, they're just being sarcastic towards uk
@@capitalizingcapitalist1202 nothing about alan turing being castrated by the uk government for his sexuality is inspirational
@Owl_Lover your good isn’t real no god is just accept the fact that when you die there is no after life and you will just feed the earth with your body when you die. the idea that there’s something out there that made all of us is dumb so quit living your life by a book one of us humans wrote
And also a gay
from the best mathematician, to the best doctor, and now the best sorcerer
Best detective, and uh, best dragon?
@@louisthelegend3530 and best detective
Wizard I think 🤔
A high schooler defeated him in combat and trapped him for 12 hours using math though
@@evanflredondo A super high schooler that strong enough to effortlessly fighting a brainwashed super soldier with robotic arms, lifting a car, and stop an advancing bus that pretty much generated 5 tons of force
I feel like Benedict can literally play anyone or anything
Except penguin 🐧 😂
Except dolphin 🐬
Can he play zoro?
He plays geniuses
He can't play me though, my life is a movie haha
This man basically created our generation because of his invention
i m german
@@gamerdrache6076 so I guess he destroyed your generation
@@wolfkai8583 No we did the same so its justifyd
@@wolfkai8583 yes he destroyed our beautiful country (not alone but you get the point)
The replies are gold.
They didn't mention anything about his past or who Christopher actually was. Alan went to an all boys boarding school and was bullied, and Christopher was his only friend. Christopher was the one who introduced crossword puzzles and cryptography to him, and they would pass coded notes to each other in class. Alan developed feelings for Christopher but when he went to see him after winter break, he learns that Christopher died of tuberculosis. That's why he named his "machine" Christopher.
Benedict Cumberbatch. Pretty much the perfect actor for this genius role
you mean Battlefield Counterstrike?
@@visosvarleskvarke Bunkering Cucumber
My grandfather was a cryptographer in WW2. He translated and decrypted Japanese radio transmissions. Alan Turing was his hero for his entire life and he spoke about him daily until he passed at 94 a few years ago. He often said "The world owes Alan Turing everything, but firstly it owes him an apology."
Alan Turing, rest in peace, you were one of the best humans on earth. Thank you for your service to humanity.
Alan Turing was gay. Also he k1lled himself.
Ditto
Christopher was his child hood crush that helped him both were very smart but sadly Christopher died from a disease and so Alan wanted to let him relive in his machine
Also every computer now is based on his machine which is the first high functioning one
The machine wasn’t even called Christopher, it was actually called the bombe in real life.
I'm a German, and I salute to this great individual. It's a shame that he got punished for his incredible deeds to humanity with psychological terror, just because of his sexual orientation. He should had been born today, so the world could had benefited from his creativity as long as he lived.
Who cares if you're German?
@@jayo3074 I do
@@justinwong833 LMAO
Its no issue to us that your German no need to mention it.
@@jayo3074 I do too
How could they do that to a man who saved millions ☹️
discovering the code had been a secret for over 50 years before it was published by the UK .so no one knew what he did except by his co-workers and bosses
the enigma machine stayed a secret for 50ish years to the point where the UK even let USA claim records for creating the 1st mechanical PC. it wasnt until the 1990's did UK release all the records and showcase the machine. there was even reports that most generals and Winston himself didnt even know about the machine and the fact the enigma code had been cracked by those few people because it was such sensitive information.
its a fascinating story about the whole thing including the secrecy for 50+ years but at same time such a sad one that a guy who truly deserves the title genius was treated like he was.
Anal stuff was a bigger deal than WW2 apparently.
@@MrShadowRaiden interesting ty
The cover stories (British intelligence, resistance network, etc.) in a weird way
helped Ian Fleming to establish his character James Bond.
Such Potential, such dedication to solving Enigma, cutting the war by 2 years and saving millions of lives in the process. In the end, all he got was hormonal therapy, depression, and suicide. Who knows, what he could have accomplished, had he been given a chance to live more time, who knows how many more discoveries he could have made had live longer. A incredible mind, snuffed out just because he was Gay. Great job Britain, add that to the long list of crimes you have committed.
Well maybe not Britain, but Britain at that time. I myself am British and if I was engaged in a war and some gay guy managed to crack some code and saved my life and loads of others, I probably wouldn’t give him loads of drugs until he kills himself
Cause america has never committed crimes
@@jacknelson3044 Well you are welcome to compete with America about who committed more crimes. We here in the civilized work acknowledge the mistakes we made and try to do better in the future. And what makes you think I would defend America here ?
@@m24213 lol I am American dipstick and the country was literally built on war crimes against native tribes, smallpox blankets is a good example but go ahead and run your mouth about something you know nothing about. R u even Amerikan bruh
@@jacknelson3044 I am not American actually, the point I was trying to make is that, i don't care about what other nations did at this moment, what happened to Alan Turing was an injustice. That cannot justified by other nations doing other crimes.
a true hero dies for his people. 99% of the world is missing this.
It's quite an accomplishment to save 14 million lives. When you think about it, he saved more than that.
Think of how many lives saved, and accomplishments those 14 million lives have had a chance to do, thanks to Alan Turing.
14,000,605 to be exact 😉
Plus all the kids and grandchildren that were born from 14 million he saved so he really saved so many more and aloud many more great minds to be born
also he helped create agriculture as we know it today helping most of the western world recover from the world wars and famines/disease that happened around them with his mathematics. some of the equations he did are still used today in working out crop rotations and a few other important aspects.
will be one of Britain's darkest spots imagine how far technology could have jumped even faster if he had been praised and supported through his whole life.
human race can do such amazing things but at same time can be so cruel to each other over things that really do not matter at all aslong as the person is not harming anyone.
@@MrShadowRaiden Well said. I had no idea about how he helped agriculture as well. Thank you for sharing that.
They believe the death rate in WW2 had about seven million deaths per year..... . that's why they said 14 million.. BUT The current estimates actually have it higher now.. around 30 million lives that Alan Turing saved and shorten the war by 4 years!
When I’m high, I usually come to this channel and look for movie suggestions. The background music really puts the vibe to it, sometimes I don’t even watch the movie, just by watching these videos, it really makes it feel like I’m watching it, keep up the great work.
I am so sorry for Turing. He was such a great and clever guy.
My second favourite movie of all time 1 of 5 I can happily rewatch which I have more than 10 times. Heartbreaking how he was treated after he saved 14 million people and saved the others from two years of more war. Not just a national hero an international hero.
Doctor Strange loses his shit and goes back in time.
We tampered with the stability of the universe
Goes back in time to save his country
This video touched me and made me cry,especially the ending part,Where Alan later died and his invention wad noticed by everyone and through this he saved 14 million lives for two years 😭😿🙀😢😣😟
The movie is even better it is on netflix
Also he misses out a whole third of the movie
Alan's death is so painful and more painful with the background song,it brings heavenly grace,but also brings sorrow,sadness,depression and break down.
Alan Turing deserved so much better ... Our hero
Benedict Cumberbatch has played 2 important characters with the number 14 million involved being saved. It's a big stretch but I like to see the parallel
Ha, ain't that something. I didn't catch that the first time. Tho, in the end Thanos was right all along.
We wouldent have a comment section today without him. He legot built the foundation of a tonne of our lives. Nobody alive today hasent been somehow impacted by him and thats kinda amazing and insane. Not to mention what he did at he time. Deserved so much better.
I got to handle a real 3-rotor and a 4-rotor Enigma at my college’s Library that was gifted by the wife of a Computer Science professor at the University after the professor passed away. Amazing pieces of technology.
That's amazing
That's so cool
!4 millions life save, Thank you Alan Turing, A real men and a hero.,
Saw this movie in my programming class. Absolutely amazing
Sad it is a propaganda movie. People that really broke the enigma aren't even mentioned in this movie.
Enigma wasn’t even the hardest cipher to crack, it was the Lorenz which Alan Turing had nothing to do with.
What a tragedy. He shortened the war, saved millions of people, advanced mathematics and computers, saved the UK govt and he was made a criminal simply because of how he was born. I hope you found peace Alan. The world just wasn't ready for your greatness
Alan: Cracks Enigma, ultimately saving lives and cutting the war by 2 years
UK: Okay, Cool, sadly you are gay
Right that’s so fucked up they knew they had a Soviet spy with them and who it was but cared more Alan was gay after saving the war? 🤦♂️
Actually Enigma was cracked in 1932 by Polish Cipher Bureau and Alan wouldn't do shit w/o it as he was working using Zygalski's Sheets and Bomba Rejewskeigo British intelligence got from Poland after German's changed way of ciphering so {CB run out of funds to make all needed ZS and BR, but of course who fucking cares, "British made it".
@@ThatNofbody doesn't matter though, if you are gay back then it does not matter where you were ..usa,uk or soviet the government and the people won't be on your side
@@Tragedyval so dont be on peoples side and save them, it is suppose to matter for you also otherwise we are all doomed by the straight arrogance and war
The polish cracked it first and enigma wasn’t the hardest cipher system to crack, it was actually the Lorenz.
Correct but there is a difference between cracking it once and doing it reliably every day quickly enough to take action
The polish knew the Germans would try to use different variations and/or upgrade the security on their enigma, the poles just didn’t have the time or money. Read x y and x by dermot Turing.
In my masters there was a whole subject dedicated for machine learning, it was very tough for me and somehow I managed to pass. If only I had an opportunity to watch this movie I might have given more interest and intention to it. Greater movie and such a great personality Alan Turner
It’s so messed up what people will do to other people just because they don’t agree poor man
It’s possible that some senior Germans strongly suspected the Enigma had been cracked, Wilhelm Canaris perhaps did, but to inform the German army when the war was already lost would have only lengthened the war leading to millions more deaths but an eventual loss anyway so they kept quiet.
There was quite a bit that was inaccurate about this film, even in the first two minutes. Even with those inaccuracies, this is still a very good movie and one of the most emotional I've seen in recent years. Benedict Cumberbatch (who plays Alan Turing) even discovered he's related to Turing while he was filming! Even though I can point out everything that's wrong with this film historically, I'm always going to enjoy it. RIP to Alan Turing and all the members of Hut 8 and Bletchley Park who helped us to win a war. We are eternally grateful for your hard work, dedication, and sacrifice.
Benedict can play basically a character that’s super smart and skillful
What a heartbreak for him. It’s true brilliance has little place in this world unless it’s heavily protected. The thinking during and after WW II feels so primitive looking back on it. While it may feel a freer place in today’s world for people to admit they are different, the older generation with their more limited outlook are not all dead yet. They still exert influence in todays world . They still affect cultural norms.
i love alan turing. invented computers. wild brain.
Not only did he save millions of lives and end the war, he was the first to create a "digital computer". He created the first computer and published his theories and work in a research journal and titled it "The Imitation Game". He was the first person to consider if a machine could think like a human. He founded computer science. I had never even heard of him until I watched this movie, and I can't believe he was never recognized for his creations. He was fired because he was gay, and only recognized and pardoned in 2013, long after he had committed suicide. Everyone in the world should know his name. Without him the world wouldn't have anything that we have today: computers, phones, AI, etc.
I absolutely love this movie! Great video.
Fun fact: the war sent Britain broke and afterwards they kept essentially the invention of the computer a secret but eventually gave the secret to the CIA. Good job Britian.
Dr. Strange was much more useful here than in Endgame
he controlled whole avengers event, what you need more?
The Polish solved before the brits did at the start of each message was 3 random letters which were encoded ABC so the other operator knew which key setting to use
Yes but they couldn't do it reliably
Yes they did, the polish cypher bureau also shared their secrets with the French and the British on their secret meeting in July 1939 just 2 months before Poland got invaded…. Please do some damn research instead of fantasizing about Hollywood bullshit.
My heart is pained each time I think of Alan Turing. In a math college course, probably Discrete Math, Alan Turing's name was mentioned a bit. No one went into great deal talking about him in that book.
Just to remember that: "three Polish mathematicians who cracked the German Enigma code in World War II. Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Różycki".
Partially. They were able to understand how the enigma worked, but not the various rotor settings that changed every day.
I watched the whole thing during the break its sad and incrediable!
One of Benedict Cumberbatch’s most iconic roles.
Incredibly sad what happened to him. He was a genius.
The original Enigma machine was broken by the Polish Cypher Bureau between the wars. The decoding machine used in the film was a copy of Polish one. Yet the Poles got 1 line of mention in the film.
i thought Bimbe was more complex
Alan Turing is the very definition of an unsung war hero and within his lifetime he was given nothing for his service to his country and to the world
Ah British propaganda. Everyone should know that Enigma was cracked in Poland before the start of WWII. It was Polish mathematicians that cracked it. They even designed the "bomba" machines for more advanced model of Enigma. These were build by the British. Turing was a great mathematician, he did advanced work on Enigma cracking but cannot be credited as the first one to do so. He simply improved on work already done.
Enigma wasn’t even the hardest cipher to crack, it was actually the Lorenz which Alan Turing had nothing to do with. That would fall to the honor of John tiltman, Bill Tutte and Tommy flowers.
It was also cracked by the Russians.
I can relate Alan Turing past life who’s been bullied in his childhood and having hard time socializing with his colleagues/friends especially he’s been a loner his whole life.
Cumberbatch absolutely nailed the role
That man saved the whole country and they treat him like nothing
he saved all of europe if not the world, he was also treated as nothing afterwards because he was gay, sad really..
This movie is bullshit, do some research on the polish cypher bureau who cracked enigma before Turing
How is Alan Turing face not on money England's greatest ever genius
He is. On the 50 pound bill. But only since last year, so the old ones are still in circulation
@@gameLode I'm glad he is now
@@gameLode I didn't know that. I'm going to have to get one of those, frame it, and put it on my wall. I studied computer science in college, in the 80s. The very first thing they taught us was that the computer is a "Turing Machine". It didn't mean anything to me at the time. Later, when I learned more about him, learned about Enigma, learned the breadth of his scientific accomplishments in his short life and read what the British government did to him, I was shocked. What a travesty.
Let us hope everyone learns from it.
I can't believe doctor strange used the time stone to go back in time to be a mathematician
Or he could've reversed time with the time stone, and stopped all of this.
Benedict deserved the Oscar for best actor that year
Damn dr strange been saving the world longer than I can remember
Turing : Cracks enigma and shortens the war by 2 years and saves countless lives
Britain : wHy ArE yOu GAE !?
Plot twist: He actually saved 14 million outcomes from Thanos.
Doctor Strange lookin a little strange here.
This movie is actually extremely inaccurate as there was a team of at least 80-120 people working with Alan.
Totally agreed.
Not to mention polish mathematicians Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Różycki were first to break the code of the Enigma.
Yes thats true, Enigma was updated by Nazis on multiple occasions. Keep in mind Rejewski also broke the code of Enigma in 1940 in presence of Alan Turing in Paris.
Its not to take away from fact Turing was a genius, but to show how British government was so arrogant when it came to WW2 achievements.
Also, as the comment above, it was a whole team of scientists working there.
@@KAzik10001 wow
Which year was this?
@@musicismoreimportantthanyo9246 in December of 1932. In 1939 as German war threats were looming high, Poland passed on information and reconstructed enigma machines to French and British intelligence.
@PGH Engineer turing didn't commit suicide?????
I went to visit the enigma machines at Bletchley park the other day - very fascinating to watch this film in addition
I hate that the defining factor for for society for this this man was his sexuality. Not a single being could even fathom the idea of what he was creating until he explained it and they butchered him and his potential....I always remember this movie since seeing it. It has a permanent place in my mind and I wish it did for everyone.
I didn't know dr. strange was a stark variant until now...
Love your videos 🥰
new name: doctor strange saves the world again
amazing as always
14 million lives saved😮 props to him
Wow , isn't that our BENEDICT CUCUMBER!!???😂😂
Nobody even know who Rejewski was and what he did... Real heroes are always forgotten
That was in 1932
Alan Turing, father of modern computers.
I love how this guy doesn't show feelings for anyone but a woman but then hits her with the "jk I was gay all along".
If Strange was a math lover, he wouldn't be trapped on Grand Canyon for 12hours.
Alan Turing was a hero, not a war hero but simply a hero.
This man was one of the greatest minds of all time and is the reason the allies won the war, and yet it took them until 2013 to ‘pardon’ him.
"How first computer in world was born" wuda been a better title lmoa
Polish guy, Marian Rejewski, broke Enigma code
British like to lie about history
I believe, and correct me if I’m wrong, that Rejewski broke an early version, and then later broke enigma a little after the british
@@h1dd3n_ow10 yeah, I believe the polish broke the 3 rotor version and the Brits broke the 4 rotor
Dr. Strange is a mathematician actually but also a Doctor at the same time!
He saved so much lives. He deserve more.
How many more unsung heroes are there that we don't know about? The ones who dedicated their life to their country and got destroyed in return?
Alan was a hero
This genius attorney changed law and saved 14 million lives.
Obviously they cut out a sizable portion of the people who did work on it that sadly doesn't get the credit because the lone genius story with maybe help from a few select people is something we are so very familliar with. That being said we punished a man who was a key component in ending a war the likes of which likely did a lot more than this title suggest. i don't think it's a stretch to say that he very possibly saved the planet because who knows what damage would have been done if we had kept using more nukes.
I was lucky in that I had a history teacher that would go off book because at the same time we covered WW2 in junior high and was shown movies like Schindler's List and Downfall. It was just about the time where more and more of Turings work was made public before we got most of the declassified things shown in the movie. And he was the kind of great teacher that could just comfortably lean on his desk and tell stories that made you want to pay attention. I was flabbergasted when I first heard it, I had heard the stories from and about my grandparents and great grandparents having to live through the occupation and some of them are really horrible. I just think it's also somewhat sick to think about how countries joined in to stop what was agreed to be an existential evil and at the same time being capable of such an evil thing as this.
They've cut literally whole Polish Cipher Bureau, which is hilarious considering that Turning's team literally worked using tools made by it's members.
@@Petaurista13 Yup, but we also kinda do that in real life, I mean we have told countless stories from the American and British perspective of the war, but we tend to overlook the countries that it took over except for France in certain movies. And yeah I understand why Americans wasn't too fond of talking about it given what happened between the two nations for the next almost half century, but Russian forces and aid were also instrumental. I get why, they had their own problematic figure at the time and there was a worry that they might finish and succeed where the Germans failed.
Enigma is pretty impressive. There are messages encrypted with it that cannot be brute-forced today.
In december of 1932, three polish mathematicians: Rejewski, Zygalski and Różycki cracked the code of first Enigma. British didnt get the Enigma itself from germany. They had decoding mashine from
Polish which they build themself to decode first models of enigma devices. So it looks like the British wanna take the glory of Polish once again. Shame :(
Ligma is much more difficult to decode than Enigma
Alan Turing should have been the Father of Computer, just my thought
He is the father of the computer, he predicted that eventually computers will become so advance that we won't people able to tell the difference in conversation, we have now surpassed that point with chatbots
@@Steph.98114 couldn't agree more bro
You forgot von Neumann (who was considered even smarter than many scientists like Einstein or Edward teller) Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace who built the first computer, and Kurt godel who allowed the Turing machines to be possible. You then have people like Tommy flowers who built the first programmable computer called colossus with his own money with very little (if not any help from Turing) and Bill Tutte who actually got rejected by Alan Turing in an interview because Turing thought that Tutte was not a good fit for the enigma team only for Tutte to turn around and work on the Lorenz team (nicknamed tunny by Bletechy park) by cracking it’s settings without ever actually seeing the machine which to me is far more impressive than engima. For all these reasons, this imitation game movie is most of the most historically inaccurate and disrespectful movies I’ve seen not because I’m trying to downplay Turing’s intelligence (obviously a brilliant guy in real life who should of never gotten arrested for being gay), but because it prays on people who are ignorant as hell.
You forgot von Neumann (who was considered even smarter than many scientists like Einstein or Edward teller) Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace who built the first computer, and Kurt godel who allowed the Turing machines to be possible. You then have people like Tommy flowers who built the first programmable computer called colossus with his own money with very little (if not any help from Turing) and Bill Tutte who actually got rejected by Alan Turing in an interview because Turing thought that Tutte was not a good fit for the enigma team only for Tutte to turn around and work on the Lorenz team (nicknamed tunny by Bletechy park) by cracking it’s settings without ever actually seeing the machine which to me is far more impressive than engima. For all these reasons, this imitation game movie is most of the most historically inaccurate and disrespectful movies I’ve seen not because I’m trying to downplay Turing’s intelligence (obviously a brilliant guy in real life who should of never gotten arrested for being gay), but because it prays on people who are ignorant as hell.
The Apple logo is based on Turing. It has one bite missing which is a nod to the cyanide laced apple Turing used to commit suicide. The original logo even had a rainbow on the apple.
How lucky we are to be born after the wars 😢
I wanna watch this movie now.
this is probably one of my absolute favourite films.
He actually saved 14,000,605 ☝🏽
This is just a very sad story of someone who did something right to help the world, but was betrayed by their own country.
Enigma was cracked by team of three Polish mathematicians. Chceck in Wikipedia
That made him Doctor Strange
did the footage cut by accident at 6:55? Cuz you were mid sentence then it skipped a little