Did Aldon Baker really cause Ryan Villipoto, Ryan Dungey and Ricky Carmichael to retire early?!
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2024
- RV is one of the modern icons of Motocross. We are very similar in age and I followed his career from a relatively unknown amateur all the way through his incredible pro career. I have always wanted to have RV on the show, but I am glad it took us this long as we have actually got to hang a bit over the last 6 months. He's a legend of a bloke and a really fun guy to hang around... I hope that comes across in this show! We talk about Ryan joining BluCru, why redheads have the most championships, if he retired to early, how his speed would stack up today, and even though it is kinda old news now, we talk about the Ando / Jett situation and what it means for the sport, as well as our upcoming trip to New Zealand to ride with 2007 team mate and rival Ben Townley.
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I witnessed Ryan hit a uphill triple at the Colorado National on a 250. He was the only 250 rider to do it. Been a fan ever since.
I witness RV be a stone cold asassin at Budds Creek 2007 MX des Nations , the
most awesome display of kickass in a Moto-Cross event l've ever seen w/ my own 2 eyes , simply inspiring .
All these guys you interview are awesome….. but let’s not overlook that the true gold here is the person who interviews them. The questions you ask in the direction you take the conversation is so enjoyable, for all of us who love to Sport and any other sport that you bring on your show. You really have a gift, keep it up! Thank you.
Yes being an interviewer is the true gold, Not the amazing feats these elite athletes accomplished
@@willyjameshuff what a clown.
You realize there are hundreds of interviews out there that aren’t worth even listening to…?
You think just anyone can get a good interview? The point is he’s top talent in his own right as an interviewer giving us all a true look into the riders we all know and love.
What’s wrong with people. Do you guys wake up looking for a reason to be cross/offended/right/condescending?
Try to think of 2 positive things before you go all keyboard warrior.
Thanks for your profound input, way to add value to the content here!
@@swank171Agree, he provides the platform for these guys and makes them feel comfortable enough to sit and talk for hours. Also, being around the industry he knows the questions people want to hear the answers to!
@@swank171it’s not that hard to talk to other human beings. What apparently is hard is not taking up for Jett being a bonehead, talking about jiu jitsu unnecessarily, or wasting time interrupting with stupid stories of your crappy old cr125.
I can’t imagine an easier job.
@@willyjameshuffwhy do you even watch…? On second thought why aren’t you making a living doing this??
You inability to appreciate what it takes is the exact reason you are still in your parents basement.
Get lost dude, aren’t you worried someone is crossing your bridge little troll.
Why don’t you go hit the mats and get some humble pie….you need a solid working. 😂
Aldon Baker himself once said "its better to have a short successful carreer, than to have a long mediocre career". During some Redbull documentary about Ryan Dungey
Bro never misses an opportunity to mention his jiu jitsu. Siiiiiiiiiiiiick.
you should get blake baggett on
Bro I feel that…. I grew up racing WORCS and NHHA….. I always said how easy racing would be if I could just never feel sick to my stomach on the starting line every race day…. I hated that feeling, it was the worst…. Once the race starts it’s just racing…. Mindless riding, but that whole morning before the race all the way up to sitting on the gate…. So mentally exhausting… 😤
UK fan. Always rated RV as one of the greatest.
I find the Alden Baker story fascinating!
I'd love to see more context of what they are discussing, like Jake, who's Jake? Like what Weeg said about Baker? Put it into the subtitles, because not everyone's following all thats goin on in the industry like you guys do, but anyway super interesting and insightful interview. RV is a legend no doubt. Did not hear much from him when he was racing, here we go now! Thumbs up!
I know you were just using these as examples to get your point across but I'll answer for you in case you genuinely don't know ... Jake is Jake Weimer. Jake was Ryan's teammate at Kawasaki. He was a SX Lites (250cc) champion and a decent rider with good potential; however, when he was RV's teammate in the 450cc class, he wasn't able to get close to RV's level or accomplishments. They also trained together under Aldon which is what they are discussing here.
As for Weege and Baker. There is a long held belief, mostly amongst the fans, that Aldon trains the guys so hard that he burns them out. This has come about because nearly all of the super successful guys that train under Aldon have retired early (RC, RV, RD and nearly CW). Weege was challenging that belief and saying there is more to it than just burn out from training too hard.
Sadly UA-cam’s copywrite auto strike system won’t allow clips or audio in these scenarios or they demonetize the videos.
Really sucks for us on the listening end.
Jake Weimer
Thanks for covering the topic of why gingers have more championships! RV is the Man!!
Love that jace can relate jiu jitsu and moto just like me, grew up doing both, still doing jits. Love it!
Wow man, nice questions. Pulling back the layers of a champions mind.
As George Jobe got older he did less practice on the motorcycle and more in the pool. Also in the 80s, the GP season was 12 rounds and tgen there were the Dutch, British etc nationals so a French GP rider wouod slso race the French nationals.
But today, and particularly in the US woth the supercross and motocross season is almost every weekend for ten months.
I think the GP season is now 17 rounds.
Riders need to be able to recover and have some down time for body, mind and family.
Football (soccer) players at Euro level also face the same challenges - a lack of time to R&R
RV had the potential to be the greatest american moto/supercross rider we had ever seen, results and numbers wise. he simply got burnt out. i wasnt a fan but he was truly HIM. would have been cool to see 7 in a row granted he stayed healthy
Finishing someones sentence ones the best
Wait, what was Weeges take?
If "forced to retire early" means winning 4 championships in a row and then bouncing to enjoy the rest of your life as a wealthy man, count me in.
I would love to hear Ryan answer what he thinks changed from Amateurs to Pros between him and Alessi. I saw him finish second to Mike in countless amateur races then they turn pro and the roles reversed totally.
Alessi came in with a huge target on his back, and a ton of pressure. Plus, most teams didn't want to deal with his and his idiot dad's shady and downright boneheaded tactics. There's your answer
"Only the paranoid survive." Andy Grove, founder of Intel. Business, sport, it's all the same.
Is there not as many back to back champions because the field I feel like is more stacked some yrs they might have truly only had 1 other contender maybe 3 at most look at the top 15 now big big names in there
Always trying to relate everything to jiujitsu and the riders are always like, 🤨 ya. Ok
Lol did Jeremy McGrath and Chad Reed train with Aldon?? You know champions that had Constant championship pressure….Aldon was an obviously a major factor.
Be real, you guys were hitting the pens? No worries RV is the best. I wish someone would ask him how good it was to whoop allessi when they turned pro. Glen Hellen….
Dude you didnt take advantage of your talent and accomplishments ,I understand financially you were set , but you needed to promote what you accomplished in this sport as your a great personality
Baker brought anyone who did as asked to the top..he was Lance Armstrong's guy
He must have some good steroids….lol.
Jre is bears
Jace is jujutsu
I think that everyone has a sense of imposter syndrome, especially the good guys in anything. Shoot I have it and I suck.
Always found Aldon Baker to be wholly unlikable, I could just never get on board with his style or personality. The guy seemed unnecessarily intense and someone I certainly would have punched if I worked with him. If you have self confidence and are driven from within, you don't need some self-important hard-ass barking in your face.
Moto is not karate.
lol it’s his podcast man
Is it me or did this whole interview ryan kept bringing up his accolades? It kinda felt like he was doing the whole LeBron "im the greastest ever" without being a complete d bag about it like LeBron was which i totally respect bc there is a argument for him to be up there but in my OPINION hes under Rc JS7 and Showtime (in no particular order)
Baker has single handed destroyed our sport now its all about money how much you have facilities available he's not even a mx fan its all about money for him he took the sport to a different level and ruined it
It's pretty much agreed that Carmichael changed the game by taking his professionalism/training to another level and it meant everyone else had to do the same if they wanted to compete with him. Is that really Baker's fault? Where would the sport be without the legacies of Ricky, RV, Dungey? Would those legacies exist, as they do now, if they weren't training under Baker and is that really all Baker's fault? To say he single-handedly destroyed our sport is naive at best.
It just took time to catch up to the European riders. They had training camp for factory teams back in the 1970s. When we raced them we could beat them for twenty minutes and then they passed us and left us behind. Lachey went to those camps and would come home and win races.Hannah then started to train hard. Then everyone started to train. The training became more structured as time went on and improvements were made as we learned.
It happens to every type of sport it seems. They all become garbage at some point. It’s very sad.