When I press my Econ button my breaking and accelerating has more resistance to it. I feel like the car runs a little bit funky when it’s on, but I have noticed it gets slightly better gas mileage. Also like you mentioned, the AC gets a bit more reserved and less powerful.
On my ‘17 Accord V6 auto it makes a HUGE difference in town, but not at all on the highway. Perhaps the larger engine, heavier chassis, and driving in town have to do with the increase, but it’s often 3-4 MPG better in ECO in town than off. On the highway, unless there is a lot of traffic or driving up in the mountains, they’re about the same. Of course it’s sluggish as hell and completely unresponsive, so it’s come to where I’d rather fill up a tad early than deal with a relatively fun, peppy car detuned in name of economy only.
I believe on the highway it's good for relatively flat drives best. I have never really tested it out in real life. I didn't think it was good for the city because the stop and go
The Eco mode seems to only be "effective" during acceleration. So pretty much around town i would say ~10% saving on MPG base on the vehicle if its on 75% of the time. At hwy cruising speed ( with the slower gear changes) it doesn't save as much. That being said best case scenario is eco mode fwd + CVT and turbo. Followed by NA engine fwd. Eco mode in my 2017 ridgeline with 6 speed auto it's a dog. The savings are diminished by ivtm awd ( 4 wheel always power ) and the weight. A/C operating more efficient is ok,but diminished by trizone plumbing. I did a year just eco and it saved me 1 to 2 mpg so not bad with eco button + VCM disable. With VCM active + Eco mode I could get 28 mpg on hwy and 23 mixed,but the side effects VCM made me leery as the vehicle got older + all the TSB's that poped up
The way i interact eco button, its slow down throttle control. So i will have to push hardee to cross tye speed limit in my city. Its a life saver for me. it saves me a lot time from getting ticket for overspeeding in late night. Trust me i dont care about mpg, compared to normal mode or eco mode.
Of course you can't affect mpg with the ECO button. There isn't one. The ECON button, however, changes response and shift points. If you drive the same way - that is, the same pressure on the accelerator - you will save some mpg. You will also accelerate more slowly. If you compensate by pressing harder on the accelerator, you can lose a little due to more uneven acceleration. I use ECON in my '18 Accord Hybrid because Adaptive Cruise Control doesn't change speeds as quickly. That is, it allows a wider range of speed differences. The a/c does the same thing - it runs less because it lets the temperature vary a bit more before bringing it back.
I own a 2021 CRV with a CVT, I don't notice enough of a difference to consider the ECO restriction worthwhile.. I also by-pass the engine off for red lights and stop signs, bad for the starter, saves VERY little gas, bad for the battery, bad for the engine.
@@denang501 It's not good for the Engine, the alternator, the starter....It's only meant for an EV, which they can keep, I'll stick with Reliable GASOLINE
In Economy Mode, you'd have to keep your accelerator pedal a quarter of the way down to full throttle longer just to keep up with traffic when especially moving off from a traffic light junction. And to overtake a car in front, you'd have to apply even more foot pressure to pick up speed. I don't see how this Economy Mode feature can effectively save fuel, unless you're driving with zero traffic around you - such as a desert road. I would engage Economy Mode in my Honda when Im already cruising along on a highway, and I'll turn it off when coming to a stop at a junction to prevent the Start Stop function which in my opinion isn't good - coolant and engine oil stops circulating, and that's BAD for a turbo charged engine.
I own a 2018 Civic Hatchback LX and I have seen this same trend between ECON mode and normal mode. My testing involved comparing the two modes between different fill-ups that were run on that particular mode the entire time. My driving involves majority highway and maybe 25% city (max). My guess is that from feeling how the car accelerates between the two different modes, it's just too sluggish on the little 1.5L motor and somehow ends up being worse? Less efficient use of the turbocharger by the more sluggish acceleration? Climbing even slight hills seem to be where I notice the most negative effect. Honestly have no idea and I would like to see more scientific testing to understand why this is happening. If the answer is that I have to toggle this mode on and off at particular times during a commute, even a long one...that makes it pretty much worthless and an extremely poor implementation. With as long as this mode has been on their vehicles now, I would expect to see better results on a newer vehicle than mine rather than similar results.
On more thought, you were getting lower fuel economy perhaps because you expect a certain sound from the engine that is comfortable to you and you had to press the pedal harder and often overshot the speed limit and had to slow down and speed up again. Just spitting ideas :)
Your not going to believe me when I say this, had ann old mustang GT, 3.31 rear end. 16 ish MPG. I was bored one day and swapped it out with a 3.90 rear end. Now I'm getting 25 ish MPG. The engine is spinning faster, but barely working, much more power on demand. Less fuel usage. I don't buy "ECO MODE" BS. I've seen the exact opposite.
You're right, I don't believe you. You sound like my neighbor, who smoked 2 packs a day for 60 years and didn't get cancer, therefore cigarettes don't cause cancer, it's all BS.
If time allows do the test again on the same flat surface on Windless Days for both tests. If some of the Econ days were windier, “against the front end” or on the regular days the car was wind aided then that wind for and against will make the difference! Go Ni
Econ mode is expensive nonsense. Increases the cost of the car to purchase and the increase the cost when it needs repair. Thank your Democrat Overlords.
Wow you can blame everything on people you fear. Lol. The democrats are in a partnership with the Japanese automakers forcing them to install an eco mode since the 90s. Funny scared pereon. Democrats wouldn't make a company make cars more expensive they are looking to cut costs.
@smeshingstarlings stupid just likes to tell stories. I got a true story. About an orange savior who received over 7 million dollars from the Chinese overlords and multiple patents approved while hexwas president. I wonder why the Republicans aren't investigating that. Or the son of a president reviewing 2 billion dollars from the Saudis. That must be illegal right?
I find eco mode is great for slippery or snow driving conditions.
Gives you less power at once, so it helps reduce wheel spin.
When I press my Econ button my breaking and accelerating has more resistance to it. I feel like the car runs a little bit funky when it’s on, but I have noticed it gets slightly better gas mileage. Also like you mentioned, the AC gets a bit more reserved and less powerful.
It's not worth it for the minuscule savings
On my ‘17 Accord V6 auto it makes a HUGE difference in town, but not at all on the highway. Perhaps the larger engine, heavier chassis, and driving in town have to do with the increase, but it’s often 3-4 MPG better in ECO in town than off. On the highway, unless there is a lot of traffic or driving up in the mountains, they’re about the same. Of course it’s sluggish as hell and completely unresponsive, so it’s come to where I’d rather fill up a tad early than deal with a relatively fun, peppy car detuned in name of economy only.
That's interesting. Thanks for the comment!
I believe on the highway it's good for relatively flat drives best. I have never really tested it out in real life. I didn't think it was good for the city because the stop and go
The Eco mode seems to only be "effective" during acceleration. So pretty much around town i would say ~10% saving on MPG base on the vehicle if its on 75% of the time.
At hwy cruising speed ( with the slower gear changes) it doesn't save as much.
That being said best case scenario is eco mode fwd + CVT and turbo. Followed by NA engine fwd.
Eco mode in my 2017 ridgeline with 6 speed auto it's a dog. The savings are diminished by ivtm awd ( 4 wheel always power ) and the weight.
A/C operating more efficient is ok,but diminished by trizone plumbing.
I did a year just eco and it saved me 1 to 2 mpg so not bad with eco button + VCM disable.
With VCM active + Eco mode I could get 28 mpg on hwy and 23 mixed,but the side effects VCM made me leery as the vehicle got older + all the TSB's that poped up
Agreed with you
Eco mode no much effect on fuel saving in fact makes the car sluggish
The way i interact eco button, its slow down throttle control. So i will have to push hardee to cross tye speed limit in my city. Its a life saver for me. it saves me a lot time from getting ticket for overspeeding in late night. Trust me i dont care about mpg, compared to normal mode or eco mode.
Eco mood is for inside city only and its the same with regular mood on highways
Of course you can't affect mpg with the ECO button. There isn't one. The ECON button, however, changes response and shift points. If you drive the same way - that is, the same pressure on the accelerator - you will save some mpg. You will also accelerate more slowly. If you compensate by pressing harder on the accelerator, you can lose a little due to more uneven acceleration.
I use ECON in my '18 Accord Hybrid because Adaptive Cruise Control doesn't change speeds as quickly. That is, it allows a wider range of speed differences. The a/c does the same thing - it runs less because it lets the temperature vary a bit more before bringing it back.
I own a 2021 CRV with a CVT, I don't notice enough of a difference to consider the ECO restriction worthwhile..
I also by-pass the engine off for red lights and stop signs, bad for the starter, saves VERY little gas, bad for the battery, bad for the engine.
I rented some Ford crossover in Florida. That engine turn off at stoplights drove me nuts. I swear it made the gas mileage worse.
@@denang501 It's not good for the Engine, the alternator, the starter....It's only meant for an EV, which they can keep, I'll stick with Reliable GASOLINE
In Economy Mode, you'd have to keep your accelerator pedal a quarter of the way down to full throttle longer just to keep up with traffic when especially moving off from a traffic light junction. And to overtake a car in front, you'd have to apply even more foot pressure to pick up speed. I don't see how this Economy Mode feature can effectively save fuel, unless you're driving with zero traffic around you - such as a desert road. I would engage Economy Mode in my Honda when Im already cruising along on a highway, and I'll turn it off when coming to a stop at a junction to prevent the Start Stop function which in my opinion isn't good - coolant and engine oil stops circulating, and that's BAD for a turbo charged engine.
No, it's like the dummy 'close door' button in an elevator!
I'd say that Eco mode is good for beginner drivers. More time to notice danger due to the sluggishness and it's harder to sleep up above the limit.
I own a 2018 Civic Hatchback LX and I have seen this same trend between ECON mode and normal mode. My testing involved comparing the two modes between different fill-ups that were run on that particular mode the entire time. My driving involves majority highway and maybe 25% city (max). My guess is that from feeling how the car accelerates between the two different modes, it's just too sluggish on the little 1.5L motor and somehow ends up being worse? Less efficient use of the turbocharger by the more sluggish acceleration? Climbing even slight hills seem to be where I notice the most negative effect. Honestly have no idea and I would like to see more scientific testing to understand why this is happening.
If the answer is that I have to toggle this mode on and off at particular times during a commute, even a long one...that makes it pretty much worthless and an extremely poor implementation. With as long as this mode has been on their vehicles now, I would expect to see better results on a newer vehicle than mine rather than similar results.
On more thought, you were getting lower fuel economy perhaps because you expect a certain sound from the engine that is comfortable to you and you had to press the pedal harder and often overshot the speed limit and had to slow down and speed up again. Just spitting ideas :)
I was hoping you would address the VCM feature.
I think I get better fuel economy with the Econ mode off in my Ridgeline
Your not going to believe me when I say this, had ann old mustang GT, 3.31 rear end. 16 ish MPG. I was bored one day and swapped it out with a 3.90 rear end. Now I'm getting 25 ish MPG.
The engine is spinning faster, but barely working, much more power on demand. Less fuel usage.
I don't buy "ECO MODE" BS. I've seen the exact opposite.
You're right, I don't believe you. You sound like my neighbor, who smoked 2 packs a day for 60 years and didn't get cancer, therefore cigarettes don't cause cancer, it's all BS.
I noticed this same trend immediately after purchasing my 22 cr v, but thought maybe it was just a fluke.
Why didn’t you do city driving also and get an average between the two.
I was on a road trip while I had this car.
I feel the same with accord 2015
How fast were ypu driving? I have a 19 crv and I get 38 to 42 mpg on highway at 60 to 70 mph
Depending on the area 65-85
If time allows do the test again on the same flat surface on Windless Days for both tests.
If some of the Econ days were windier, “against the front end” or on the regular days the car was wind aided then that wind for and against will make the difference!
Go Ni
I’m getting 22mpg should be 33
ya you're doing something wrong or something wrong with your vehicle. I get waaaaay better fuel economy with Econ mode, like 8mpg difference
You are the first one I've ever heard of that got an improvement like that!
Econ mode is expensive nonsense. Increases the cost of the car to purchase and the increase the cost when it needs repair. Thank your Democrat Overlords.
Wow you can blame everything on people you fear. Lol. The democrats are in a partnership with the Japanese automakers forcing them to install an eco mode since the 90s. Funny scared pereon. Democrats wouldn't make a company make cars more expensive they are looking to cut costs.
Honda is designed in Japan so no democratic overlords.
@smeshingstarlings stupid just likes to tell stories.
I got a true story. About an orange savior who received over 7 million dollars from the Chinese overlords and multiple patents approved while hexwas president. I wonder why the Republicans aren't investigating that. Or the son of a president reviewing 2 billion dollars from the Saudis. That must be illegal right?
@smeshingstarlings and built in Alabama
How do you make a car feature political??