The Ancient Trickster Hiding in Plain Sight: Reynard the Fox

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  • Опубліковано 30 жов 2022
  • [Audio Remaster - Originally Published 07/16/2021]
    Who is Reynard the Fox? A Character History of European Folklore’s Archetypal Trickster
    For nearly a millennium, a legendary trickster dominated European folklore, only to all but vanish from modern public awareness. In this video, we will explore the origins, history, development and legacy of Reynard the Fox.
    Special thanks to the wonderfully talented Kenket for allowing me to use her artwork in the thumbnail: tessgarman?lang=en
    My debut novel, Winter Without End, is now available for purchase from Fenris Publishing in both ebook and paperback format:
    www.fenrispublishing.com/winter
    A post-apocalyptic story told through the eyes of a dog, Winter Without End follows a Labrador retriever who, after being abandoned by his human family in the aftermath of a devastating pandemic, makes an uneasy alliance with a wounded wolf in order to survive.
    If you would like to see more videos from me, please consider supporting my channel on Patreon: / cardinalwest
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    For those who are interested, you can listen to readings of two of my own short stories inspired by the character of Reynard, "Darker Things Than Man" and "Riddles With a Raven," on the Voice of Dog podcast:
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    If you prefer reading to listening, you can also find my stories here:
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  • @thearrivalcyberseignister8898
    @thearrivalcyberseignister8898 Рік тому +17

    The first charismatic lowkey sociopath underdog smart character
    Thank you for being lelouch's prototype

  • @5PercentofSanmono
    @5PercentofSanmono Рік тому +74

    So many good bits of historical trivia I learned here! Reynard really is the animal Oddyseus insofar as he gets ahead with his cunning. I only wish the video was somewhat less dry, since I feel you don't communicate properly just how funny it is to read Reynard and what a riot he is. It's a comedy book, so let's laugh a little! But it's impossible to cover all angles. As Reynard said, "Whoever always tells the truth will find many obstacles."

    • @ButtersOhh
      @ButtersOhh 2 дні тому

      I really liked his tone, somewhat dubious

  • @canislunaticus
    @canislunaticus Рік тому +40

    In Norway most tales where there's a fox included, the fox is more often than not referred to as "Mikkel rev" or directly translated "Mikkel Fox" or "Michael Fox" like in the famous tale of The Fantastic Mr. Fox, in Norwegian the tale is called Fantastiske Mikkel Rev (Mister replaced with the name Mikkel (most commonly translated into Michael)

  • @annifs9411
    @annifs9411 Рік тому +34

    I'm German and we still learn about Reynard in school :) And I studied literature, so I happened upon the story again during a 101 lecture. It's a shame we never got to analyse it this in-depth. Nowadays, the character names are popular answers to trivia questions here, as in, "What is an old folkloric name for a fox/wolf/badger?" Fascinating stuff.

    • @janana5917
      @janana5917 5 місяців тому +1

      I am dutch and saw a play of it called den vos Reynaerde

  • @padd6007
    @padd6007 Рік тому +34

    Its nice to see a remaster... all those who have not seen this original video get a chance to with this one. Reynard is a brilliant archetype.

  • @Haydenthemaker1000
    @Haydenthemaker1000 Рік тому +12

    I think if I just watch it another 2 times I'll understand it. Such a well researched and scripted production. I've just been listening and it's been incredible

  • @Ryjia
    @Ryjia Рік тому +11

    Very interesting video.
    I am from the Netherlands and here we are still taught about Reynard's fables in school, so I never knew it is such an obscure figure. These fables are so ingrained in the Netherlands that they have even been incorporated in our language, for example: iezegrim means a grumpy person.
    Also, fun fact: bruin is the Dutch word for brown.

  • @matthewmarek1467
    @matthewmarek1467 Рік тому +24

    Deep and informative presentation about a character I had not heard of (before you first covered him). Great to see you dropping the remaster on Reynard!

    • @zephyrr108
      @zephyrr108 Рік тому +1

      " I had not heard of (before you first covered him"
      Zoomer alert

    • @bluedragonfly5145
      @bluedragonfly5145 Рік тому

      @@zephyrr108 oh shut up and let someone enjoy learning.

  • @DraptorRonin
    @DraptorRonin Рік тому +5

    Dang, Reynard played the Nazi’s like a fiddle BEYOND the pages of his story!
    Doing as he does in-universe as he does outside.

  • @wasneeplus
    @wasneeplus Рік тому +30

    Van den vos Reinaerde is standard material in Dutch high school literature classes, so to me it's not exactly obscure. Still, nice to hear someone from another culture give their take on it.

  • @vicbaez
    @vicbaez Рік тому +8

    SO, in the middle ages instead of drawing your opponents as a crying wojak, you drew them as Renyard.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Рік тому +6

    I'm pretty sure owls were associated with wisdom for more reasons than just being symbols of Athena. Their huge eyes, spinning heads, and propensity towards roosting high above most other animals and thereby gaining a greater vigil of the world around them could be connected to an omniscient being who sees all and knows all.

  • @aWolffromElsewhere
    @aWolffromElsewhere Рік тому +8

    It sounds so much improved. Also checked out your Riddles with a Raven story and its awesome! The raven had goddess Nyx energy for sure imo.

  • @alalessia
    @alalessia Рік тому +8

    I'm glad you remade this, I hadn't seen it before. What a fascinating part of history I'd not heard of before! (But I called the Robin Hood thing by disney lol)

  • @gustavnordqvist9695
    @gustavnordqvist9695 Рік тому +6

    Great video. Reynard the fox
    Is an amazing folklore and my favourite story.

  • @CatwithaKnife12
    @CatwithaKnife12 Рік тому +3

    Very informative and well-made video! I always assumed Renart originally came from the fables of La Fontaine, but clearly his historic presence traced far before that time. Thank you for the lesson!

  • @888bjxjs888
    @888bjxjs888 Рік тому +2

    This was an excellent video. I grew up reading these stories and love them so much.

  • @kevinhile9097
    @kevinhile9097 9 місяців тому

    Well done video! Very informative. Thank you for making it.

  • @beatleowl
    @beatleowl Рік тому +1

    Great video on one of my favorites! Subscribed!

  • @lupodelupis3672
    @lupodelupis3672 Місяць тому

    There's a great Julian Cope song about Reynard The Fox...he knows all the legends and the ancient stories of the Great Britain.

  • @Slinkers.
    @Slinkers. Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video! I feel like I meditated and took a literature course at the same time.

  • @callumturner1064
    @callumturner1064 Рік тому +3

    Lets go!!!
    Cardinal West dropped a new video...
    TIME TO PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @deanroedeo2606
    @deanroedeo2606 Рік тому +2

    New subscriber here, love the work, came from your fox and the hound video, going through your back catalogue now.

  • @ammonagger555
    @ammonagger555 10 місяців тому

    Beautiful

  • @francegamer
    @francegamer Рік тому +4

    I've been learning 3d character design for a couple months now, and I think once I get pretty good at that, the skills of environment design and animation I really want to make a kind of animated series. Right now I'm really considering a wild west outlaw version of the classic story. I think it would be an interesting fusion of french and american mythology, akin to how I myself am a fusion of french and american blood.

    • @huntercoleman460
      @huntercoleman460 Рік тому +1

      So one of your parents was American and the other was French?

    • @francegamer
      @francegamer Рік тому +1

      @@huntercoleman460 Basically, yeah.

    • @huntercoleman460
      @huntercoleman460 Рік тому +1

      @@francegamer How did your parents meet if you don’t mind me asking?

    • @francegamer
      @francegamer Рік тому +1

      @@huntercoleman460 I don't know the exact details, before my time.

    • @huntercoleman460
      @huntercoleman460 Рік тому +1

      @@francegamer Do you have dual citizenship with France and the United States?

  • @ecocodex4431
    @ecocodex4431 Рік тому +2

    A sly fox.... a dimwitted bear.... a lion who is a king.... the fox is often in disguise...
    This is just Disney's Robin Hood!

  • @Yarblocosifilitico
    @Yarblocosifilitico Рік тому +2

    24:30 I love that editorial, and it's probably more aplicable than it has ever been (except that, being so many, most still fail)

  • @dr.c2195
    @dr.c2195 Рік тому +3

    I remember seeing this story in old Donald Duck comic magazines. At first I skipped it because I thought it looked boring as it was not a comic, but when I got bored of reading the same comic stories over and over again I decided to try the story anyway. Then I got hooked into the story. The story was spread over multiple magazines and each time I finished one part I searched through my Donald Duck magazines collection to find the next part like I was a drug addict looking for his next high. I think that this story is a true classic worthy of being preserved and retold.
    However, I disliked the fact that Reynard always gets away with his crimes as that seemed wrong and anti-karmic. The story was a bit too violent for my preferences, as well. I get that that may be the point of the story, but I like justice prevailing.
    Also, in hindsight, I love how the king is a total baboon with an inflated ego. I bet that back in the day this take on kings was hilarious. Yet I would not be surprised if this turns out to be among the most accurate medieval accounts of kings in general.
    BTW great video. Really informative and well-presented.

  • @jamesgroccia644
    @jamesgroccia644 Рік тому +1

    Reynard: The Original Fantastic Mr. Fox

  • @ShadowNinetales
    @ShadowNinetales 7 місяців тому +1

    I read somewhere else that the dog's name is Curtise. 🤨 I guess that's the sort of variation you get when these stories are spread so far and by so many people.

  • @ethanwindham9700
    @ethanwindham9700 Рік тому +2

    Could be interesting to see Reynard as a new persona in a new P5 fighting game with tamamo no Mai as well but I don’t know if atlus will make one for who knows how long but we’ll have to wait and find out if they announce it, also if not for fate/grand order’s case could also be an interesting servant to roll for as either a alter ego class or a caster/assassin class but we’ll have also have to wait and find out what’s next after the lostbelts been cleared.

  • @thechickenwizard8172
    @thechickenwizard8172 Рік тому +10

    Is this a re-upload? What happened to the original video?

    • @CardinalWest
      @CardinalWest  Рік тому +6

      Yep - I'm going back through and remastering the audio on a bunch of my older videos now that I have better equipment and software. The original video is unlisted, but you can still find a link in the bottom of the description on this video.

  • @MrCamp09
    @MrCamp09 Рік тому +2

    @CardinalWest, this was excellently done. I admire both your in-depth research and presentation, not to mention analysis. I'll definitely use this information to fuel some of my own work. On that note, I loved your opening to Winter Without End and plan to buy a copy. Very interesting story, and your prose spoke to me right away. Well done. Would it be best if I go directly go through the publishing house? I urge you to consider producing more of this kind of content, it's excellent. Please let me know if I can ever be of assistance. I'm a writer, and I also study mythology when I can.

    • @CardinalWest
      @CardinalWest  Рік тому +1

      Oh, sorry, I missed this comment when it was posted, but I really appreciate your support! It does support me and my publisher more when you purchase directly from them, but if that's not as convenient (especially depending on shipping locations), my book is also available on Amazon. I hope you enjoy it!

    • @MrCamp09
      @MrCamp09 Рік тому

      @@CardinalWest purchased and reading. Enjoying so far. Would be glad to discuss when finished.

    • @CardinalWest
      @CardinalWest  Рік тому

      @@MrCamp09 I'm glad to hear it - feel free to message me on twitter @cardinal_west

  • @Jack-so5bp
    @Jack-so5bp Рік тому +1

    God what a great video

  • @ZGuy0fSci
    @ZGuy0fSci 6 місяців тому

    Reminds me a bit back to Warframe and Parvos Granum....
    "Tell me, friend., What is it you......................... Desire."

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 Рік тому +2

    I can see why foxes are so popular now.

  • @willsword8100
    @willsword8100 Рік тому +1

    Ah, Robin Hood connecting point... Neat.

  • @volpilh
    @volpilh 14 днів тому

    I want to add (although I am still only 10 minutes into the essay), foxes were also -- at least in the lyric poetry of the trobadors, associated with cowardice, in addition to cunning. My own username, Volpilh, can mean both «foxling»/«little fox», or, as an adjective, «coward» in Occitan, though the latter is barely ever used today, and the root of the word, «volp», has largely been displaced by «renard».

  • @macmurfy2jka
    @macmurfy2jka Рік тому +5

    It’s interesting how acurate {read: less stylized} the portrayals of the fox was in those illuminated manuscripts compared to how much more characterized the other animals are.
    I wonder if that’s a function of real life foxes better fitting Reynard’s characterization or if it’s due to the fact that the artists actually had more first hand experience with foxes.
    Or maybe there is more of a cultural thread stitching that portrayal of a fox from Medieval times to now making an unbroken tradition that informs my understanding of a fox, thus making the character in the ancient manuscripts and the one I know practically the same character. This is definitely more so the case than say the bears or lions of the ancient texts.
    I can definitely see the influence on modern culture. Thanks for the information.

  • @Religion0
    @Religion0 Рік тому +1

    In Denmark, the archetypal fox is called "Mikkel" and has been for a while. I don't know when it started, though, but I have never heard of Reynicke.

  • @caesari3708
    @caesari3708 5 місяців тому

    After watching this I wonder if you'd ever do a video on the Coyote. Mostly from Native American Myth, Coyote is a combo of Wolf and Fox with a healthy serving of Humanity somewhere in the middle. He's complex and flawed. He's my favorite mythical figure.

  • @sergeantpanther678
    @sergeantpanther678 Рік тому

    Really good compilation of facts in an informative and somewhat romantic way, my only complaint is that I wish you put some reading recommendations in the description. You know some links and stuff to ctrl-c, ctrl-v into a search engine.

  • @sonicroze
    @sonicroze Рік тому +1

    Extremely interesting. I don't know your faith, but I appreciate your historical take on the role of the Church in shaping public opinion and the issues with it that lead to the reformation. I've often wondered at my interest in fiction of all kinds and as a born again Christian of the last two decades, what kind of role does that play? And here I find Reynard as an example of being used in propoganda both for and against the reformation.
    Thank you for filling in a small piece of history that is yet another part of a larger puzzle. If I do get an opportunity I may wind up buying your book, I looked for it on Amazon and found physical copies for sale. Is there any chance of it ending up on the Kindle store?

  • @rockyfalldownstairs
    @rockyfalldownstairs 10 місяців тому +1

    The real message of this video is that if you are a good game master that knows his folklore then you will make your big bad a Arcanaloth.

  • @user-yj8gp7og5p
    @user-yj8gp7og5p Рік тому +1

    Machiavelli was probably being sarcastic too, and not actually giving serious political advice. Rather he was making fun of those who used the tactics and deceptions he describes in his book The Prince, particularly members of the notorious Medici family.

  • @athenahitchin7738
    @athenahitchin7738 4 місяці тому

    I always thought Reinard was Rein as in restrain and -ard wizard

  • @AdumbroDeus
    @AdumbroDeus Рік тому +7

    I know this may seem like a minor point but Christian Europe absolutely did not develop out of Jewish culture. Rather it developed out of the culture of the Roman empire, and the inclusion of Jewish stories is largely done as a form of subversive appropriation where they were recontextualized either to prefigure values more palatable either to the specific sect or Romans in general, or to lead directly to their chosen Messiah, at least how the Romans would interpret it as leading directly anyway.
    In fact the elements that were where Christianity most influenced Roman thought tended to be elements that among Jews were broadly unpopular, namely cosmic dualism and asceticism (particularly sexual asceticism).
    This ends up being really frustrating for Jews because non-Jewish Christians (or people steeped in Christian culture but not practicing Christianity) will tend to project back their assumptions on Jews and Judaism, or worse yet decry modern Jews who don't fit their assumptions as being untrue to Judaism and Jewish culture.

  • @iamcat5870
    @iamcat5870 Рік тому +1

    What exactly do you mean by “predation” with chickens? The mention of r#pe was in the video sooooo did the fox “assault” the chickens or just eat them and I’m looking too deeply into it?

    • @VideoMatoran
      @VideoMatoran Рік тому

      The R#p€ I know of is the ones targetting poor Hersent, or Arswind, once by being stuck in the window with her assets exposed, and once being tricked into fishing in the freezing pond, only to get it frozen, making her vulnerable, and forcing Ysegrim to watch. Such is the level of Reynard's disgusting douchebaggery.

  • @tell-me-a-story-
    @tell-me-a-story- Рік тому +1

    It's just about a terrible person who get's away with everything. I kind of really wanna see him get eaten by the wolf..

  • @mistersir3020
    @mistersir3020 7 місяців тому

    LOL guess why the prime minister was a Rhino x'D
    Definitely going to read this book

  • @Yarblocosifilitico
    @Yarblocosifilitico Рік тому +1

    25:27 the meaning remains but apparently the correct translation of that quote would be 'rope' instead of 'camel' (makes way more sense).

    • @cmcapps1963
      @cmcapps1963 Рік тому +5

      I've heard that too, from pastors and trivia websites, but unfortunately it seems pure speculation. The Greek words for camel and cable are similar but the earliest manuscripts of Matthew all say "camel". In addition, "easier for an elephant to go through the eye of a needle" was a Persian saying, so that adds weight that a large animal was meant
      One possibility to make more literal sense of the saying is that "needlec refers to the "needle gate" which was a small pedestrian gate into the city. It was made so small that only only a single person could walk through at a time. To try and shove a camel through it would be a humorous mental image

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico Рік тому +3

      @@cmcapps1963 interesting! I like the needle gate theory, specially since the quote is about entering the realm of heaven, so it makes sense that a gate is involved.

  • @Devilicious791
    @Devilicious791 2 місяці тому +1

    38:02

  • @micaylab1
    @micaylab1 Рік тому

    What happened to the bigger portion of your Xenofiction videos?

  • @scroobymovies
    @scroobymovies 18 днів тому

    How the Lion, King of all the Beasts, sent out his commandments that all Beasts should come to his feast and court.
    In the time when the forests are lusty
    with leaves and flourishing trees, and the ground
    smells sweet with herbs, and is colourfully
    flowery, and all fowls and birds sound
    melodious in their harmony, the crowned
    King of all the Beasts, the noble lion,
    would hold an open court at state, and send
    a commandment that all Beasts should attend,
    so that he might come to know the news of the land.
    So, then, all Beasts great and small came to court,
    except Reynard the Fox. Because he knew
    himself guilty of many a fault and disport
    against too many Beasts, he dared not show
    himself. When the Lion, amid the strew
    of leaves, had gathered the peers of the realm,
    there were none of them all in the shadow
    of the wood but deplored all the mayhem
    perpetrated by Reynard the Fox-indeed, him.

  • @buttonmclemming
    @buttonmclemming Рік тому +1

    Hey. I'm having a problem as the UA-cam link at the bottom of the description is not the link to the original version of the video, but rather the Fantastic Mr. Fox video. Can you fix that?

    • @CardinalWest
      @CardinalWest  Рік тому +1

      Good catch - it should be fixed now!

  • @fritoss3437
    @fritoss3437 Рік тому

    😯

  • @PeterJeens
    @PeterJeens Рік тому

    book subject sounds akin to 'The Plague Dogs'

  • @yashsingh1631
    @yashsingh1631 2 місяці тому

    This story and book was inspired by ancient indian book panchatantra.

  • @robertlongmire1441
    @robertlongmire1441 Рік тому +3

    "Medieval edgy humor" lol

  • @akshaypatel518
    @akshaypatel518 Рік тому +44

    Definitely not a furry

  • @Croz89
    @Croz89 Рік тому

    I've kind of wondered if there's a similar native american mythos around some trickster raccoon.

  • @arnaudwurm-munoz1325
    @arnaudwurm-munoz1325 Рік тому

    Which illustration is the cover of your video please??? :)

    • @CardinalWest
      @CardinalWest  Рік тому

      The fox in the foreground is a piece called "Reynard the Fox" by the artist Kenket, though the fiery orange and black background is customized by me.

  • @Devilicious791
    @Devilicious791 2 місяці тому

    1:13

  • @stenh.6243
    @stenh.6243 11 місяців тому

    Just fox things.

  • @Devilicious791
    @Devilicious791 2 місяці тому

    10:27

  • @tell-me-a-story-
    @tell-me-a-story- Рік тому

    But does the story kind of make you think of Disney's "Robin hood"?

  • @knightshousegames
    @knightshousegames Рік тому

    Many years later, the Reynard myth would move to Mexico, and eventually come to America as a professional wrestler
    His name was Eddie Guerrero

  • @bogwitchburke
    @bogwitchburke Рік тому +1

    This guy fox(s)

  • @ColetteWylde-ju3zx
    @ColetteWylde-ju3zx 9 місяців тому

    Damn missed the poem intro...copyright strike or something knock it down

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon Рік тому +1

    Could parrots have had a similar folkloric presence in other cultures? I mean just look at cockatoos & Kia.

    • @CardinalWest
      @CardinalWest  Рік тому +1

      I'm not familiar with their representation in folklore, but it's certainly possible, since trickster animals tend to be members of species known for their intelligence.

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 Рік тому +1

      The main problem for parrots representations in folklore is that the most well known folklore is european folklore, and there's no parrots in Europe ^^'

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon Рік тому +2

    owo

  • @gungnir3926
    @gungnir3926 11 місяців тому +1

    indoeuropeans were venerating wolves, werewolf is a good thing, all men should strive to be. all men have the wolf inside. it should be mastered not suppressed that is true european wisdom, not weakness from that slavecult from judea.

  • @willarmendariz7663
    @willarmendariz7663 2 місяці тому

    This is just Zootopia

  • @robgau2501
    @robgau2501 9 місяців тому

    People have completely misunderstood what Jesus meant. He didn't mean that one must not have riches to get into heaven. He said the Kingdom of God is all around you and you don't see it. It's inside you. He meant that people who think money is better than anything
    probably won't do what it takes to find the Kingdom within. This was the original belief about Jesus. Gnosticism. The catholic church created the Bible they wanted and then murdered everyone who said different. They continued this throughout history. Welcome to Christianity.