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  • In this video, we follow the life of an Audeze LCDi4 planar magnetic in-ear headphone ($2495), from an abridged version of how it's built and packed (narrated by Audeze Founder & CEO Sankar Thiagasamudram), up until it's unboxed. John Atkinson (Editor, Stereophile) is currently in the process of reviewing the LCDi4 for the December 2017 issue.
    The build process was filmed in Irvine, CA in June 2017 at Audeze's factory. The unboxing was filmed in Stereophile's New York office.
    Review Link: coming soon
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  • @nastymikkel
    @nastymikkel 7 років тому +41

    At 2:46 when the guy is soldering, some solder splatter gets onto the diaphragm. I don't know if this causes any damage to the thin plastic, but for this price I would expect better eye for details like this.

    • @Acoustic_Theory
      @Acoustic_Theory 7 років тому +22

      A unit built for the video might be rejected by quality control for a defect like this, and it was no reason to stop the video and do it over again, but it wouldn't pass the frequency response test due to lowered sensitivity.

    • @alb.1911
      @alb.1911 7 років тому +8

      have you listened what he say before start soldering?

    • @nastymikkel
      @nastymikkel 7 років тому +14

      I heard that, but you're showing off the production of your flagship model in this video. I don't feel like there needs to be an excuse to do a half-ass job. Especially with all the driver horror stories I've been reading. Why is there no fixture which covers up the drivers while soldering in the first place? If this happens during a demonstration, it most certainly happens during normal production.

    • @takusanimasu
      @takusanimasu 6 років тому +1

      oh my god!!

    • @arongatt
      @arongatt 6 років тому +4

      this was a demonstration build as the guy said, no need to worry... good attention tho

  • @rotorblade9508
    @rotorblade9508 Рік тому +1

    I just destroyed the left side of a pair. I gave them to my nephew and they were hooked up to a crappy cable extension and the left side sometimes would make contact, then my nephew slammed it because he couldn’t hear in the left and the membrane swallowed slightly and made a noise every-time you would touch the speaker so I disassembled to fix them. At some point I wanted to confirm the theory and push them a bit against the palm at thet point tje membrane burst and now it doesn’t move anymore, so sound. So the conclusion, be very careful with these. my set was a sine dx. anyway I now now how they’re made I think I know how to rebuild it :)

  • @ledfed1912
    @ledfed1912 10 місяців тому

    How do you guys create an elecrical connection with the thin diaphragm, im considering soldering is out of the question.

  • @HiFiInsider
    @HiFiInsider 6 років тому +3

    watching this on LCDi4. great IEMs. :)

    • @Broxine
      @Broxine 5 років тому

      Hi-Fi Insider same 👌

    • @skizzlemane1
      @skizzlemane1 4 роки тому +2

      I only have the the iSine 20’s :-/ Still sound great though

    • @brandonburr4900
      @brandonburr4900 Рік тому

      LCD isine3 and multiple pairs of isine 10.😀

  • @QuikSeps-UltraSeps
    @QuikSeps-UltraSeps 7 років тому +19

    I'm in the wrong friggin business. Gotta get myself some cheap plastic and crazy glue tomorrow!

    • @LordVictorHalgaard
      @LordVictorHalgaard 2 роки тому

      Was gonna say, that assembly was sole of the most scuffed I’ve seen, considering the price

  • @TheRusselmuscle
    @TheRusselmuscle 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing the manufacturing of the earphones. Really enjoyed seeing how my i4s are made. For me the large ear tips are not very large. I had buy some non oem tips on Amz that were actually large, 14.5mm large. That made a huge difference, because I couldn't get a seal at all with then OEM large tips. They do sound amazing on my oneplus 7 pro. It has a 24 bit dac with decent power.. I have a lot of 24 bit HD albums and subscribe to Amazon HD music prime. To have this mobility with that quality of sound is just amazing. Makes an average day an experience.

  • @majsterV
    @majsterV 7 років тому +7

    I do understand cost of research and cost of production, but good God where we are going if those are worth 2500$. Not to mention the use of unnecessary materials which can easily double the price of used material per earphone and don't add anything to performance They use gold plated mesh, but on other side they use cheap plastic simply glued together.

    • @frosty6845
      @frosty6845 6 років тому +3

      majsterV it’s magnesium not plastic

  • @brandonburr4900
    @brandonburr4900 Рік тому

    John must have got the non iPhone cipher dac/amp version. The magic with these it the cipher cable along with the audeze hq ap. Trying different amp and dac combos still have yet to reach that level as the cipher cable. Sadly they don't make it any more but using the qudelix 5k dac/amp with audeze as presets works nice with various isine and lcd i series. And as a bonus I was surprised how well it drive audeze lcd x 2021. Since audeze no longer makes those cipher cables take care of them. I have worn one out and had to buy cheaper sets of isine10s just for the cipher cables. The made no mention if g how long is takes to make that thin diaphragm driver. Curious in relation to how long it took to make the lcd 4 diaphragm, as that look a long time

  • @ivangamer8022
    @ivangamer8022 3 роки тому

    Some people in asia are really happy about this video

    • @georgestephenopolous5508
      @georgestephenopolous5508 3 роки тому

      Assembly is brainless. Anyone with any kind of mechanical aptitude could buy one and pick it apart to figure out how it was put together in the first place. I don't think they can produce the nano diaphragms just by looking at the video, however.

  • @androcci
    @androcci 4 роки тому +1

    I snatch a deal B-stock for $1,100 now I think they are worth the price.

  • @musicelect
    @musicelect 7 років тому +11

    The packaging looks like it cost more than the speakers. Die cut foam, leather pouch, and a molded acrylic case. It can be said that your listening experience is influenced by the appearance and marketing surrounding the product.

    • @frosty6845
      @frosty6845 6 років тому +3

      I can guarantee you the materials used for this IEM cost more than the packaging

    • @666PANDEMONIUM
      @666PANDEMONIUM 6 років тому +2

      Hilarious, do you know how much Planar Magnetic Drivers cost to make?
      I hope you are joking.

  • @allydea
    @allydea 5 років тому +6

    11:04 _"Now, plug it into my phone.."_
    50% of audiophiles and 100% of audiofools lose their minds.

  • @androcci
    @androcci 4 роки тому +2

    I can't believe this is done on his mother's basement.

  • @nyccontrabass3489
    @nyccontrabass3489 4 роки тому

    I wonder why I didn’t get a leather case?

  • @stevek5748
    @stevek5748 6 років тому +8

    Nice in ears but way overpriced. Even the I sine 20's are $625 which is a lot but $2500 cmon

  • @georgestephenopolous5508
    @georgestephenopolous5508 3 роки тому

    I guess people were expecting robots, clean rooms, and lasers all over the place lol. This is how high-end boutique electronics are made by hand. If you want all the high-tech stuff that saves money and ensures consistency across millions of units go to a Foxconn factory instead.

  • @whitigir
    @whitigir 4 роки тому +2

    I really wanted to see how good it is...soldering splatter, and then Plugging Into Iphone ? Thanks, but no thanks

  • @allydea
    @allydea 5 років тому +2

    I listened to these, they sound nice, but the fit is awkward and the materials and manufacturing don't exactly scream "3 grand." This hi-fi pricing bubble will soon burst.

    • @PKAPE004
      @PKAPE004 4 роки тому

      The bubble have already bursted. Many Chinese-made IEMs ranging from $50-$1000 sound incredible and very popular among audiophile and musicians. Some of these “Chi-Fi” companies have also gotten into planar magnetic headphones, though the choices are limited and the sound quality is not yet comparable to Audeze’s.

    • @PKAPE004
      @PKAPE004 4 роки тому

      @Jacob Dawson, Thieaudio makes some of the best IEMs with Voyager14 is one of the bes from them. I am myself saving for their Clairvoyance. Every year is getting harder and harder to justify these domestic, massively overpriced headphones/iems. For example, the $300 Chifi Mangird Tea sounds as good as the $3500 Tia Fourte from 64 Audio.

  • @59seank
    @59seank 7 років тому +6

    Only $2,495.00 per pair! These will make good stocking stuffers.

  • @dipsyfriday
    @dipsyfriday 7 років тому +14

    Running a $2495 set of earphones on a cellphone? Seriously?

    • @Acoustic_Theory
      @Acoustic_Theory 7 років тому

      They are also not the only outfit I've seen that runs REW (free software) for end of line testing.

    • @alb.1911
      @alb.1911 7 років тому

      Of course the final review wasn't made on iPhone. Wake up man...

    • @nellatl
      @nellatl 7 років тому +6

      if you have lgv10 or lgv20 absolutely.

    • @Scoutscout1000
      @Scoutscout1000 4 роки тому

      These are designed to be run on out of a cell phone. All DACs are the same

  • @mitchhifi9192
    @mitchhifi9192 4 роки тому

    The first one he glued was an isine not lcdi

  • @absa64
    @absa64 7 років тому +10

    if it was made in china,it would cost around 200$
    Audeze and other companies are really sick..always find them overpriced

    • @frosty6845
      @frosty6845 6 років тому +6

      Ab Sa this technology isn’t as cheap as you think

    • @Scoutscout1000
      @Scoutscout1000 4 роки тому +1

      If a Chinese company could replicate this then audeze would be forced to sell it for cheaper

  • @Masimo_Yovanni
    @Masimo_Yovanni 4 роки тому

    I wonder how many of these they get wrong in the making, and if they can sell us those which don’t meet the requierments? At a knock off price..

  • @rsh2099
    @rsh2099 2 роки тому

    Well, life is dull without a gull :D

  • @gewinnste
    @gewinnste 4 роки тому +2

    Uhm, I'm pretty sure I could do that better. Plus, this looks like in a hobby basement. I thought they do this in a clean room with gloves and other protective equipment.
    I'm actually quite shocked.

    • @georgestephenopolous5508
      @georgestephenopolous5508 3 роки тому

      It's not a sealed unit and not sensitive equipment. Otherwise it is a relatively simple electromechanical device, even. Yours would see more dust and grime from being up against your ears and existing in your living quarters than anything from this guy's hands if you bought one.

    • @gewinnste
      @gewinnste 3 роки тому

      @@georgestephenopolous5508 "relatively simple electromechanical device" - well, this was part of my point (implicitly): So why is it so expensive?

    • @georgestephenopolous5508
      @georgestephenopolous5508 3 роки тому

      @@gewinnste Well you try making one of their diaphragms by yourself. It might be possible for you, but I doubt it would be cheap. Of course if you can do all of the above you should get to market as fast as possible.

  • @666PANDEMONIUM
    @666PANDEMONIUM 6 років тому +6

    I am so sick and tired of people complaining about the cost of gear.
    Just keep those comments to yourself.
    You are just bringing everybody's mood down.

    • @IstasPumaNevada
      @IstasPumaNevada 5 років тому

      I'm sick and tired of people paying stupid amounts of money for cheap products and thinking they're getting a good thing. ESPECIALLY when a nearly identical model was sold by the SAME COMPANY for literally ONE FOURTH THE PRICE.

    • @jakubpetro7492
      @jakubpetro7492 4 роки тому +2

      @@IstasPumaNevada which one it is?

    • @TheRusselmuscle
      @TheRusselmuscle 3 роки тому +1

      @@IstasPumaNevada I own the Audeze isine 10s 20s and the lcdi4. The lcdi4 is a HUGE jump in sound quality. From the 10s to the 20s there is also a very noticeable difference in sound quality, just no where near as big of jump. That micro thin material is not cheap to produce I can tell you that.

  • @charleskingReal
    @charleskingReal 4 роки тому

    Anyone else notice that Audeze is using REW for product certification? (5:20) REW is damn good, but somehow I thought a company that charges $$$$ for its goods wouldn't be using free software....

  • @alejandrocastellanos9046
    @alejandrocastellanos9046 3 роки тому

    l o l no way this cost 2500

  • @hououinkyouma3864
    @hououinkyouma3864 2 роки тому

    All of these actual brainletts asking about the price is hilarious. Do you guys know how extremely difficult and costly it is to create a planar magnetic driver of that size that functions the way it does?

  • @QuikSeps-UltraSeps
    @QuikSeps-UltraSeps 7 років тому +5

    Is everyone at Stereophile an old fart? On another note, can you you a bigger knife to open a tiny box next time?

    • @tedtimmis8135
      @tedtimmis8135 7 років тому +1

      QuikSeps It's just that young shits don't know anything about good sound or good music.

    • @QuikSeps-UltraSeps
      @QuikSeps-UltraSeps 7 років тому +1

      Good point.

    • @eedesign878
      @eedesign878 5 років тому

      Yes they are. They used to have hearing but have for long substituted more for providing exotic imagination for money.

  • @Zoojaehong
    @Zoojaehong Рік тому

    작업하는 모습 촬영하는 카메라 심도가 너무 얕아서 보기가 불편하다.

  • @johntrussell7228
    @johntrussell7228 5 років тому

    “Stereofile” magazine and he’s using a fucking iPhone streaming shit quality AAC audio lolol

  • @eedesign878
    @eedesign878 6 років тому +4

    Why god why all hifi journos are so old man that they cant by nature have half of their hearing left.

    • @Stereoeditor
      @Stereoeditor 6 років тому +4

      I test my hearing regularly and though I am approaching 70, my high-frequency cutoff is still >14kHz, higher than most people younger than I am. - John Atkinson, Editor, Stereophile

    • @Broxine
      @Broxine 5 років тому

      Stereoeditor wrong. Im 37 and my ears go both to ~19.5 kHz
      14kHz is good for your age but you miss out on a lot that is going on in clarity above 14kHz.
      This inears have very very bright highs. Very good resolution and sound image if you close your eyes.
      Bass is a little weak though.

    • @eedesign878
      @eedesign878 5 років тому

      You might hear up to 14k, but it does not mean that you hear all the way up to that point. It is more than obvious that frequency range is smooth not like a young persons hearing.@@Stereoeditor John I have read a lots of stuff written by you over the years but lets be honest here.

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm 4 роки тому

    Lol they use REW. ur kidding me.

    • @LordVictorHalgaard
      @LordVictorHalgaard 2 роки тому

      I mean, the whole operation and construction looked like some Kickstarter upstart project.

  • @ANSt15
    @ANSt15 6 років тому +3

    There's no reason for those to cost that much money. SMH.

  • @Sai-lj3rv
    @Sai-lj3rv 6 років тому +4

    Overpriced.

  • @Gansovskii
    @Gansovskii 3 роки тому

    Тот случай когда наушники за 3000 долларов воткнул в айфон))) и снял это на видео.

  • @giancarloorrillo1082
    @giancarloorrillo1082 6 років тому +1

    Sucks is too cheap