Boss Loop Pedal Buyers Guide: RC-1 vs RC-3 vs RC-30 vs RC-10R
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2019
- Boss are the market leader for loop pedals and with good reason: aside from their quality, they have something for everyone. But the range can be confusing so in this video we talk you through the key differences between the various Boss Loop Station pedals.
Each of the pedals are available to purchase on our website: www.FXpedal.co.uk or try out in our London store situated in Northwood (just by Northwood Hills underground station and with free parking outside).
Very good video. I’ve been playing guitar for 50 years, but have been wishing something like a really good looper pedal was available for about 48 of those years... these Boss pedals, especially the RC-10, are a dream come true. Thanks for showing the actual capabilities and differences among them, without all the ego-driven look-what-an-awesome-guitarist-I-am bullshit that 99% of the looper videos on UA-cam seem to be driven by.
I'm right on the page with you, bro! Hey, get some vids on your channel, man! Mine's packed, check it out!
You, I believe, mention that all features carry forward.
What am I missing here.
On all models before the 10R you could play a loop and then add in drums and by some miracle the drums would sync into your newly formed loop.
I have a couple of these and, w songwriter and live performance hats on, how do I get the 10R to follow my loop.
Exasperated!
Thanks I’m advance
J
Probably one of the best product reviews I've seen in a long while. This is extremely useful - thank you.
what looper do you choose ?
Very helpful introduction and overview. Saves me visiting the store and asking you to say it all again.
No extra hole needed for me, thank you very much.
That was a very clear and useful appraisal... especially the demo of how tough the new RC10 R is..!!.Thank you...:-).
Thanks. This was exactly the sort of comparison I was looking for. Perfect. Much appreciated.
so what is your choice finally ?
Very good video to help understand differences among those loopers. Thank you very much :)
Thanks for the information.. It helped me a lot to findout which looper would be good for me
Really appreciate this review video. This cleared up all questions I had and made my decision much easier. Thanks a bunch!
what looper did you choose ?
@@vincentdelmas2792 I went with the 10R. Probably a little more than I need at the moment but I have some aggressive looper learning plans set up for myself so wanted something that I can kinda grow into and will keep me entertained for a while even as my looper skills grow.
Content wise, great video. Loved the way you described it in sort of a "least-to-greatest" amount of features.
Film horizontal when on a phone so people will stop filling your comments section with useless complaints that say the same thing over and over again.
More light!! Get rid of those raccoon eyes and light your face evenly, you can achieve this with a lamp placed on one of those nearby amps. Haha
Cameraman was fine, just turn the phone. Haven't looked at your latest stuff though, might be 10x better, just what's on my mind now. Great informational video! Thanks a lot!
Best review ever, thanks a lot!
Great video, helped me make my decision on the RC10R
8 months later, how you liking the RC 10-R?
@@DunneMan I would have loved to be able to give you a review of it, but sadly I hardly ended up using it. It was the first pedal I bought and I ended up using an audio interface on my PC to play for the most part, so I have only used the pedal a handful of times. It seems great, I liked the drum machine and everything but I just never went through the hassle of learning how to use it properly :/
I'm thinking about selling it
Good explanation of the possibilities of these loopers. I have an RC300 which is fantastic but it's too big for busking, think I'll get an RC1 for that, keep it simple.
Indeed we all love an extra hole
A dirty mind is a joy forever! ;)
Great tutorial very helpful, cheers mate!
I have the Rc-3. The drums leave much to be desired, but the ability to have multiple saved loops is pretty cool.
Great overview. Would love to see you add the rc500 to this
With the mic in jack, I consider the rc-30 the most versatile loop on review here as you can add sounds/instruments through a mike into the loop.
Also, the RC30 can be battery powered, which makes it viable for truly wireless musicians, unlike the RC-10R.
For those crying about the video format....grow up. It is an informative video and that's it. You don't need a special format or aspect ratio to gather that info from it. Half the comments here about the damn recording quality. When I started playing guitar we were excited about our VCRs having auto tracking and stereo if we could afford it. Not to mention a video presentation like this one that you get for FREE cost us about $49 back then so please sit back and shut up.
You are right. Expressing an opinion for someone to have better quality is crying............ It also says that someone is not a grown up. Nice work. Keep telling the internet what to do. It will certainly work out for you.
Thanks for the honest review 👍
'we all love an extra hole'
Very informative…thanks!
Great review
great summary super helpful
Great video thanks👌
wert helpful video. thanks
Great vid. Say do you know if I could plug it into another boss unit like a multitrack, I have a portable battery operated multitrack a br532.
I'm wondering if I can plug in a boss rc loop peddle and use my microphone on my multitrack. This way maybe I dont need to get the boss rc 300.
Maybe the boss rc 3 will be enough?
Thank you.
My question is is there one which i can import a .wav drum track, save it, record 3 layers over it and export those individual layers to PC? Or will all layers end up as one file?
Just some filming tips:
Ditch the cameraman for a bipod, and just edit in still shots when you need to get close up on gear.
As everyone said, film horizontally.
Finally, strong lighting helps a lot when filming. Good footage can take an obnoxious amount of light.
Very good Video, can we connect headphones to any of the outputs?, Thanks in advance
I'm finding the portrait format quite refreshing on my phone fwiw. Thanks for the video
This video was very helpful, thank you!
Thanks
Cool looper review. I'm leaning towards the RC-10R and have two questions:
1. I'd like to use this live, and need to give the drummer a tempo reference. Can I pan a single sound to serve as a click reference (cowbell, side stick, etc.) for a drummer to play against in a live setting? If not available with any of the rhythm presets, I suppose I could import a recording, but that would be at a set tempo, correct?
2. Any thoughts on the MIDI interface? I'm not familiar with those tiny interconnects for MIDI.
You can select a basic drum tempo track and then send that to a separate output (parameter option). Ie you can separate the two outputs to 2 x mono, one for guitar and one for drums and send the drums to a
Sorry. To a monitor. Tempo can be set for the preset or tapped in with an additional footswitch.
Mate it drives me up the wall I have rc30 you have to press left pedal twice to playback,, once it still overdubs ,, its hard to press twice ,, is there a way to press once with no overdub
With the RC-3 you can play a guitar loop and then the pedal recognizes the speed needed for synced drums. I watched another video about the RC-10 and it seems, it can't do the same. The video also exposes that at the end of nearly all drumloops there is the sound of a cymbal crash, which is really annoying and can't be changed.
What is your opinion about these issues?
Oh dear! Yet another review of the RC 10R where the reviewer does not understand all the capabilities. The loop track and drum tracks can be used separately OR you can switch to sync mode and the loop track will even be quantised to match the drum tempo. Intros and outros can be switched off and the list of extra features available by plugging in a double switch pedal is just outrageous - and mind boggling but you don't have to do it all at once. My tip would be send the drum output to a separate amp/channel from the guitar (which is an option!) as there seem to be some unwanted sound artefacts if both through a guitar amp - one for Boss to tackle, maybe.
@@mikehewett4393 It is true that you cannot first record a loop at your own tempo, then turn loop sync on, and have the rhythm then start in sync with your recorded loop. See the 'Guitarnica' YT channel on that. Of course, you can set a rhythm tempo, turn loop sync on, and record a loop in sync while the rhythm is playing but that's not the same thing and I can see why live looping performers have the hump about that. That has not deterred me from ordering one this week, however. Greatest features are the ability to easily record two sequential parts with a capable MIDI drum sound module that supports importing your own rhythm patterns via the Rhythm Converter app. So, if anyone doesn't like crashing at the end of a rhythm pattern they can import custom patterns of their own. Also love that Boss has finally abandoned long-travel pedals for foot switches in favor of quiet, short-travel buttons. I hope Boss will expand this new format to a three to five sequential track bigger brother in the future that I will also buy.
great review and all but just why film in portrait
Dude what’s with the portrait mode video? Say Landscape 5 times every hour for the next week as punishment.
Dude what’s up with the Portrait view of your video? Landscape for video :-)
Help! When I use boss loop pedal, the loop always drowns out the sound of my guitar playing on top. I just can't get it to sound right. How do I make my guitar sound louder?
Not sure which you have, but usually there is a volume knob on the pedal to turn down the playback volume of the loop.
can the two loop tracks on the rc30 be different lengths? and not multiples?
They have to be the same length im afraid :)
Would be nice to have a pedal with 10rc drums and 30rc guitar effects.
I just got an RC30 unit and I love it! The only thing that I don’t understand is why Boss has put such useless effects into this unit 😅. It’s a shame. They are just impossible to be used. But the looping features are excellent tough.
Ditto X4: 1 memory bank; 5 minutes recording time.
It's a toy.
These are workhorses.
I bought a RC-20 XL Looper, anyone own the 20, it’s hard to find info on it, is it close to the RC-30?
can someone respond to this? I used the RC3. I seem to need the extra pedal to turn it off. Do you think the operation of the 2 pedal RC20xl is easier than the 1 pedal RC3 ? I'll take the RC20xl just for the 2 pedals. I think. anyone?
Boss looping pedals do it all, and they take it up all 3 holes if you want them to!!
As I am vocalist and guitarist.. Rc 30 is good fo me. Thanks
HELP PEOPLE, i want to buy rc-30 for first pedal addition and i want to be proactive and buy a voodoo lab power supply, problem is on the rc-30 it states to use "BOSS PSA ADAPTOR ONLY" is this just and idiot warning or will a voodoo lab supply not work properly???
Its just to make you buy a boss psa. Also warranty stuff.
U can use any power adapter.
Nice breakdown, but...using the RC-30 for verse-chorus song structure is an absolute arse. If you want to have different layers that drop in and out for different sections of your song then OK, fair enough, that works. But, a straight switch between playing your verse loop and playing your chorus loop isn't happening - both loops keep playing side by side. Switching between loop 1 and loop 2 doesn't change which one you can hear, it changes which one will be "active": i.e. which will governed by the Rec/Play/Overdub/Stop functions controlled by the footswitches.
Quite a few issues with the rc-10r at the moment so please checkout guitarnica's UA-cam channel before purchasing it.
I wolud like as RC 1 with midi sync, better sample rate and just the write function on a pendrive. Would be perfect to me as a live and composing tool.
I’ve read a few reviews of the Rc-10. The intros to the drum rhythms are apparently awful as timing gauge, not what you want for live playing or looping. That’s why the Beat Buddy destroys this hands down for rhythmic playing.
is the 2nd pedal on the rc-10 only used for the drum rhythm or does it have the same functionality as the second pedal on the rc-30
I second this comment
no one mentions quantise which is the MOST important aspect of a looper
without it they are unusable with external drum machines because it is virtually impossible to hit the buttons in PERFECT time even 1/20 of a second out is 1second out after 20 seconds
the rc-1 doesnt have auto start which the others have, which to me seems odd, th RC1 is aimed at beginners wanting to learn to loop but gettin started with a press to start loop is one of th hardest things for a newbie, all th other ones are aimed at more accomplished(maybe not right word) musicians but has autostart to make them easier to use
Does it include the USB cable and the power supply cable in the Box, when i buy the RC 10R ?
Power supply is included. No USB cable but it uses a bog-standard microUSB plug so they're cheap, widely available and most of us have dozens of them lying around in drawers.
as a musician why do you need the clock feature, can't you remember 8-16 bars lol?
Funny. Unless you're playing ambient stuff though. Plus it does look dope.
Michael Bones Yeah. That is not necessary. If you need it you might have other issues with doing looping. I wish Boss would stick to useful things only. The effects on the RC30 are useless so why did they even bother. That space could have been used for other functions.
thank you... very pro. review !
👲💖
12 minutes is the recording time
rc 30 you can download different drum from usb connector
The RC 10r needs more features. For eg you should be able to do a guitar loop and press rhythm and have it sync the BPM automatically to the guitar loop. It needs to stop putting a crash at every end loop pattern. Because if you have a short loop then your gonna get cymbal crash constantly. Needs option to put them in yourself randomly or space them out a bit. And damn why not put a xlr mic input in there with plenty of memory so then you can actually just play your mic through the same amp how convenient Lastly why not have different kits, link it to an app have people share there kits with users and maybe have full songs people can create and you can then just dump it onto the pedal then you can have a whole performance set in there. Id love to see like boss create something that isn't just a fun little practice tool. Get serious boss
did they fix the crash problem since ?
The RC10 is seriously flawed! You have to set the tempo BEFORE you play the phrase! Not in freestyle which then syncs the rhythm like the RC3. There’s a cymbal crash that repeats all to often on most drum patterns! I did order one and was really looking forward to it but now I’m gonna pass.
good content but vertical video wtf were you thinking?
Vertical format? You know you can hold an iphone on its side, right?
Is that wolverine's brother!?
the fact that u can´t delete one of the 2 tracks in rc-30 while playing makes it so useless it's impressive. you have to stop the song to delete a track.
Great content but the vertical format is so annoying.
The RC10r and the RC30 would be even better if they had a headphone jack, for practice.
Spinal Tap worthy
They really really REALLY should have added the ring LEDs on the other pedals. You kind of want that type of visual feedback IMHO. The downside is in how it is only a 16bit device, regardless of 'stereo in / out', which kind of isn't stereo in and out, but rather 'two separate ins and outs', not a left or right channel. Kind of misleading, but useful either way I guess. Also, the drum patterns are crap. Don't get these pedals for that. It's kind of unfortunate the Boss RC-5 is a bit too expensive for the upgrade it is to the RC-1. Well, unless you're going to use the looper every day of course.
Landscape mode - It's a thing.
OMG Landscape mode please
YEs.... we ALL like an extra hole!!!
Portrait mode? Is this 2009 all over again?
A very good comparison video. thank you. I just wanted to mention though it's not pronounced "whythm" it's pronounced "rhythm". Just shitting you, British bro. 😝
RC-505 ?
That's a beast as well. Got the 300 and the 505, wicked machines!
I'm watching this video for the sole purpose to find out how much record time these loop pedals have.
And you say you don't know!? 🙄
But I got the RC-2 🤷🏻♂️
youlino me too.
It surprisingly doesn’t record when tap it any more.
It’s the only non fixable pedal in the series, we got lucky lol
I don't think you've tried changing from track 1 to track 2 on the RC30 in a live situation (verse/chorus). Its completely impractical to do that unless you're on the floor pressing buttons by hand
Volume!!!!! Can't hear you
To me these drum patterns sound cheesy af. The kind of thing a guitarist would appreciate :)
Nuclear war? Many loopers left, no players at all. No joke.
HORIZONTAL!!! lol... Basic stuff man...
You should put a little more effort in the sound on your video maybe invest in a lapel mic, something.
Portrait mode? Do you know how UA-cam works? This isn’t Instagram.
I hate it when they do that!
Да RC-10 потерял микрофон о чём они там думают , изобретатели ?
Most colorblind people are red green color blind, so why does every thing use red and green. I can't see any difference between them. Sucks for me!!!!!
Becouse portrait mode is for boring people... 😏
DELETE THIS VERTICAL CRAP!
IM SORRY BUT RECORDING ANY TYPE OF VIDS IN PORTRAIT MODE SHOULD BE ILLEGAL OMFG PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO USE TECHNOLOGY but its an ok vid maybe do a lil more research about the facts on the pedal like recording time on the rc-1 is 12 minutes