Is this Cheating? GM's 6 HOUR Water Pump Insanity
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2023
- This 2005 Silverado with a Duramax diesel has a leaking water pump. Book time is 6 hours. We can beat that.
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We used to own an Isuzu Stylus. Every time my Dad had to do something on that car, he'd complain that whoever put the bolts on whatever part had 'ballerina hands and gorilla arms'.
LOL!
not to forget E.T. fingers ...
@@Itsjustme-Justme Or Eyes like a Crab.
@jamiepilkey
Hilarious, great post!
I wouldn't call that cheating, I'd call it working smarter not harder. Not to mention doing your customers a huge favor.
It actually seemed relatively easy.
@@dlewis9760 When you're that good, yeah it looks easy.....
makes me wonder - do the dealerships charge the full 6 but take the shortcut? If so, hugely profitable job!
I bet they do, chevrolet, it's a big PLUS??
I know many mechanics, who work in different industries, and all of them charge full payment, for work done. If it is 6 hours and the job takes half the time. Because they are talented. Then it is full time that is charged. I know people in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark. And the sad thing is that they don't get paid more for it. I myself am an ex-mechanic & car sheet metal worker. So I know.
Now I have the urge to know how long that pulley would have stayed ringing😂
I can't sleep 😳
Lmao 😆
Step number one - tape the inspection cover over the ignition switch. 😉🔧👍
I like to disable the starter, pull the wire off the solenoid. I usually end up forgetting and am trying to figure out why it will not turn over and then remember but at least I have not damaged anything, except my pride 😂
Good idea, thanx.😃
@@GinosGarageUSA
Yeah, I’d forget too. That’s why any trigger I set is direct and possible to miss or forget. Covering the ignition key switch with that inspection plate would be pretty much foolproof.
Good idea. When doing the cam belt on my Citroën Xantia recently I actually considered to stripe the ignition key to the thing I used to block the flywheel.
Or attach the key to the tool!
The carboard in front of radiator indicates a man with experience of the wallet emptying variety 😂😂😂, Great vid Wes 👍
Saw that and was like that's so simple yet so smart, wouldn't have even thought of it
@@fbm314 It's called Common Sense.
Knowledge gained by making a costly error in the past.
In the shop i used to slave at, service adviser would have looked up the book time, decided that was wrong, charged an hour labor, then been out screaming at me for why i was taking so long. Glad i gave it up.
It's good to see you, unlike so many so-called mechanics, protecting the radiator while working anywhere near it. That's a class act.
He’s most likely had to buy one in his previous experience and figured that was a great way to make sure he’s semi protected.
I never used anything to protect radiator till I accidentally punctured one!!! Lol
"Our friends at Isuzu have made a simple job much harder than it had to be" As a recovering Trooper owner, I have seen this first hand. There's a reason they don't sell vehicles in the US anymore.
Duramax was a game changer when it hit the US market. Very capable reliable engine. Took Ford at least two engine series before they ever came close to reaching the same achievements.
GM Pulled out of Thailand about 5 years back......Isuzu took over the joint venture facility......largest selling pickup in Thailand, next is Toyota, and a distant 3rd is a four letter word that I would/will not park in front of my home because I don't care to lower my homes value!
The Duramax engines arent Isuzu engines. Theyre made by D-max which is a company started and owned by GM to make engines for Isuzu and GM.
Water pump in a Trooper is a doddle. Cambelt and waterpump takes me about 45 mins to an hour.
I love Isuzu engines, they last forever, easy to strip and rebuild and rarely destroy themselves if serviced.
Loved my Rodeo. Worst issues I had were the GM crap they put on it to sell in the US. A neighbor had the same model year but the Honda passport version. What GM crap broke on mine did not break on hers. Couldn’t beat the 5 year 120 k mile warranty. Two biggest complaints, weak AC and no cup holders!
6 hours by the book? I'll bet I could do it in a week!
and only 2 30 racks to boot
I don't have a book. I use common sense.
My age it would be two weeks over a period of a month. I’ll never own a V8 diesel again. The 2002 I got it takes a couple hours that includes smoke and coke breaks with coolant change and drain and 70 years old doing it.
@@oldfarmer4700 Keep at it! I'm 63 and still doing most all our fleet's maintenance. I think I got trust issues. Visions of stripped oil pans and over tightened oil filters.
@@Z-Bart oh yeah, smokes, coffee, lots of sugar and hard work from sun up to sun down. Hard work is all I know.
You held up that flywheel tool and said "don't forget this".... man i could totally see myself forgetting that. I'd leave a note on the steering wheel to remind myself
It was making me nuts as soon as the balancer was tight pull that flywheel tool. IDK what you can do to make you remember stuff that could be really bad. But Wes took care of us with a little smile and a “but don’t forget this!!! “
Cardboard barrier to save radiator damage, Wes is always thinking, great video to save installation cost.😃
I agree. It's always better to assume you will make a mistake or forget and take appropriate steps.
You only think of these things after it’s happened before.
@@FishFind3000 Im pretty sure he learned this trick just like the rest of us did. The hard way, one radiator later. 😉
Now this is the difference between a mechanic and a part fitter.
Between a mechanic and an insurance repairman. Those guys are forced to work by the procedure book. I weep for them, for they are lost to us.
It's not cheating if you replace the part that's bad. Engineers are a strange bunch. Thanks for not being obnoxious like most channels. I see a lot of mechanics being loud showoffs and sugarcoat the repairs they make. You seem to very down to earth and genuine. A new subscriber right here.
Yes, good on Wes for being a great sport about his work. Some other channels lose me with their obnoxious rants and know it all attitude. Best of luck to Wes and his family. Enjoy the canoe outing.
@@toma5153 This is exactly why I unsubscribed from Uncle Tony's Garage. Great mechanic who really knows his craft -- Also an obnoxious know-it-all who seems to really enjoy tearing down other great mechanics who know their craft.
You'll just love this channel. Very informative, always a great verity of repairs, I think he's a genius, wished he was in the UK, I wouldn't use anyone else. Would recommend his back videos for a good nights watch. Watched many of his videos over again.
One of the worst mechanics on UA-cam is Car Wizard, he is so full of himself and how expensive he is 🤮
I'll add Scotty Kilmer to the list of unwatchables. Then there is the whole boat load of hand and finger gesturing, gobbledygook speaking, eye and eye brow fidgeting, goofball, parts tossing, ham it ups with the endless ' will it start and run xxx miles home? ' click bait crap.
Nice job! The part store must choke back a laugh when the DIYer buying a DM water pump returns for the 4' breaker bar!
I loved the "DINGGGG" from the pulley when you pulled that pipe off, it was like "winner winner chicken dinner!"
Sorry I Missed Your Upload Yesterday, We had brought My Father to My Home this Past week, under Hospice Care after a Lengthy Battle W/ Kidney Failure and Dialysis. James Edward Cole, a Decorated Vietnam Veteran and My Father Passed Away Saturday Morning, 7-1-23 Surrounded by Loved Ones, and on His Terms to the Very Best of Our Ability. Eighty Years Old May Twenty Second, He Had a Good Run & He Will be Missed.
That Aside, appreciate you having us along, I’ll certainly catch you on the next one. Keep It Safe Out There Sir
& Rub the Pup behind the Ear for Me, Would You?
So I decided after working directly with engineers at the company that made Zeros, the reason they design stuff like that is because failure is not an option. They assume things will not fail because they have designed it properly and failure would be bad. It’s the strangest thing but over and over I have seen this, and we would have to talk them into making something accessible to fix once it broke eventually. So this does not surprise me one bit. Nice work, hope the air clears up for you guys, and hope they are able to het those fires under control for our friends in the great white north!
❤😂
I've seen that with the German engineers. They think it's OK for an engine to have 5 timing chains that take 30 hours to replace because surely a timing chain would never fail. They also can't comprehend that not every owner is doing perfect maintenance according to the manual.
@@WatchWesWork Yea, unfortunately the Japanese are extremely penny wise and do not want to spend any extra money on maintenance. True story, in their office they had a label on the soap dispenser bottle that read “do not throw out”, so they could refill the bottle!
Are the engineers ever passionate enough about their work to care about how it will hold up after 15 years of use? And even if they do care that much, what about the company that's in the business of selling new products instead of maintaining old ones?
Our Liberal WEF Gov has the climate change arson thing going on.
I grew up a Ford guy and was always jealous of how easy a SBC water pump was. This makes me feel better.
ford F,E engines are real easy to change water pumps too..
@@merc-ni7hy Yep, 1 hour job if you have your head on right and the tools at hand. Too bad the rest of Ford's pushrod V8's didn't have the same water pump setup.
What do you think the same year Ford 6.0 Powerstroke would have needed at the same mileage as that Duramax?
I think a Ford mod motor is dead simple as well. Newer ones don't have a mechanical fan, either. It's like 12 bolts total and it's out. I was pleasantly surprised on my wife's Navigator when I had to replace it. 30 or so minutes not counting the burp and fill process of the cooling system.
@@bigjoebowski22 the water pump on the 4.6 V8 in my grand marquis is the easiest water pump I ever changed. Rare exception for Fomoco products though.
The six hours was Wes Book Time, which includes filming, editing and uploading. 😂👍
....and canoeing😅😂
Wes, maybe a lot of other people have suggested this, but you might want to switch to Job Standard Hours rather than an hourly rate. While people in your area might balk at anything over $70/hour they might not balk at all if the job simply cost $329, or whatever it comes out to. Back in the late 90's I was charging $29/hr for appliance repair. My father-in-law suggested it was too low and so I raised the price - business increased. Over the next two years I raised it 3 more times and found that customers were more than willing to pay $90/hr - even though EVERYONE else was charging $35/$50. The business increased in volume so much that I had to start limiting the geographic area I could serve. The difference was, I showed up on time, did a good job, cleaned up after myself, and treated customers professionally.
You provide a service that very few other mechanics provide. You have skills many don't have. You're also honest and detail-oriented. These traits are worth something. I'd be willing to bet that you could raise your rates to $125/hr tomorrow and nobody would bat an eye. If your customers aren't willing to pay you a fair wage, it's OK to fire them.
BTW, your videos are awesome, I've been watching Eric O. and yours popped up in my feed. Thanks for doing them, it's obviously a ton of work.
Done this once before 4 years ago. Original WP went out at 250,000 miles. Took me 9 hours to do it. Now 4 yrs later the NAPA water pump is now leaking again. I will not replace it. Have it scheduled to go in in a week. Ya, expensive but at my age I am not going to do it. Nice video good instruction. Thanks.
That's y I don't buy parts at NAPA, junk!
I propose many improvements on the design. One, make the fan shroud one piece so it can't be removed before the fan (Ford Explorer I'm looking at you!), two, make the balancer tight fitting so you have to use a puller for it, three, put a steel pipe with just two O-ring on the ends, into the rear of the water pump housing so you dislodge the other end upon pulling the pump and then you get to do the whole job over again.
You should see the process of replacing motor mounts on a Land Rover 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So that the "mechanics" don't need to have any skill or knowledge and can be knuckle dragging monkeys got it....
@@buckhorncortezsounds like you’d know a thing or two about dragging your knuckles
My old Apprentice master always said, work smart not hard. You work smart sir. Thank you.
Giving the kid a hard time that assembled that water pump and placed that sticker there.
Great job replacing the water pump. Man their directions were crazy. Thanks for the videos.
Your approach is smart. Saves a bunch of time and still gets the job done. I can't figure out what problem they were solving by using a gear drive water pump. That is crazy! Back in the 80's one of GM's station wagons required you to cut, with a torch, a half moon section of the passenger front wheel splash panel to gain access to the heater blower motor. I couldn't believe the instructions when I read them. They even embossed dotted markings showing you where to cut. Another great idea from GM!
There was another GM product from the mid 00’s I did in college and you had to cut the old blower motor out with a dremel and screw the new one in with self tapping screws
@@JasonStaggs99 Another great idea!
"Do you have any mechanical experience?"
'Errr nope...'
"Great! We have an opening in our design dept."
Mass hysteria....dogs and cats...living together
We need a new videoooooo…..NOW.! 😂 miss ya buddy. Hope all is well.
Beauty Wes! Sorry about the smoke 'eh? 🇨🇦
Nice good work
Is nice to see mecanic howe knows howe the things are toghter and do a good work 👌
"Is this hose bothering you?" Well it wasn't until you said something!
Thanks for the upload!
Jesus this gives me flashbacks as to why I gave up being a mechanic and started painting cars. Worked out well as now I make twice as much but absolutely no one wants to be in a 110 degree paint booth in the middle of summer with full ppe.
I worked at a small Chevy dealership for a while. We had a couple brand new AC Delco water pumps fail within a weak of installation. Stupidly, but not surprisingly, the gear is pressed onto the shaft with no key so under torque it can just start spinning freewheel style. We started putting a couple of tack welds with the TIG welder on the shaft to the gear and no more problems. Hopefully yours doesnt come back. I'm sure the way the truck is driven and how many extra HP they are getting from thier tuner makes a difference.
I did one with that failure way back on a new-ish truck under warranty
Excellent work Wes, you're a consummate professional.
This reminds me of the BMW estate wagon rear door strut replacement. Book says you have to take apart the entire rear. In the rear world, you'd have to be dropped in the head to heed dementia like that, you just use a lever to pop the struts off and swap them.
The groundhogs have been crazy! I saw one the other day at my work and almost had a heart attack cus I hadnt seen a rodent that big EVER. I thought I was in the Princess Bride movie!
Even at this moment, the Duramax convoy is in its way to The Wes Shop.
As soon as you said fire it up I said don't forget your flywheel lock tool lol. Great video 😊
I remember changing my 7.3 water pump in an O'Reilly's parking lot in 30 minutes. Makes me appreciate simplicity
I've had a ton of 7.3's. Still have a couple (97obs and 03) Keep a cam sensor in the glove box and you're golden
@@colestowing8695 great engines. Easy ish to work on, last forever and still get good mileage. Miss mine
This is by far my favorite UA-cam channel. I watch this guy fix stuff for hours on end. The stuff he takes on to fix is just mind blowing.. his wit and humor is absolutely hilarious...Wes Kicks ass
At least you didn't have to take the cab off.
Every time you rang a pulley bell, I had a drink, because why not. 😂 Cheers to a great repair!
F note.
It’s called working smarter not harder! Thanks Wes! Happy 4th!!!
Still driving in 1957 Ford two-door coupe straight six stick shift. Nothing I can't do with a pair of pliers lol! I admire your skill and knowledge Wes.
Oh Wes...ex GM diesel tech here, I truly hope the oil cooler coolant tube doesn’t start leaking at the cooler o-ring for you and pray you don’t have to redo the job! We use to have problems here in the Kanuckistan rust belt and that was more than 12 years ago when the truck weren’t this old! Now if this truck lived all his life in the rust belt it had to have the tube replace at least once maybe more by now. Hopefully that will save you.
GM following Ford's lead on this one, textbook Ford engineering. 18 years , not bad for a water pump.
Exactly what I was thinking. "That's Ford levels of stupidity!"
yeah that shaft has a tendency to slip under load, sinister diesel makes a tig welded water pump, one of the best upgrades for any dmax
The impeller shaft?
@@WatchWesWork yesir
Dude you're killing me. Hope you're on vaca. Suffering withdrawl when your not there. God bless you and your family, you are the best.
Same!
The one bolt behind balancer is the engineering felony of this deal.
Big thanks to patrons over at patreon.com/WatchWesWork who make it a little easier to deal with insanity like this.
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Thanks for that link, those clip pliers look pretty handy to have! 👍🛠️✔️🔧💪🍻
Great videos Wes thank you ! I’m more an old Ford trucks guy but still enjoy seeing the others process
Every time I watch, I wish you lived closer to me. Finding a wrench with your mad skill ,is very rare.
GM / Isuzu: Problem, How to over-engineer a waterpump on a Duramax ChatGPT: Am I a joke to you?
Good video, Sir! Interesting to learn a few things about the Japanese diesel, and about the critter situation. Been weird up here for critters this year as well due to abnormal Autumn and very dry spring.
I on the Westcoast at sea level and the tide last night was higher than I've ever seen it! Critters are fine, it's the people who are acting strange, even stranger than usual!
@jaminova_1969 Wow! That's something neat...correct me if I'm wrong but this moon phase and time of year has something to do with larger than normal tides? Hah well I can't argue with your statement about people...noticed the same thing but for about 5 years lol
I'm in Indiana and I have noticed the same thing with the wildlife around here. Birds flying into my truck like crazy, TONS of deer running around the roads and probably 100 roadkilled animals on my 20 minute commute to work. Thankfully I haven't hit one, although the racoons are still as daring as ever and still going out in pairs.
I work in an aviation shop and we closed of all of our ventilation systems the ~3 days it was passing through. Pretty eerie times to be certain, but as we always do in the midwest, we just keep on going because weird shit is pretty much the norm.
great job. Every new car/truck etc needs a Wes on the end of the production line to stop these engineering fails from entering the market.
You could have a wildfire with all of that dead grass!! 😂
Makes me glad I own a dodge cummins. And as a bonus I’m also getting good at changing ball joints.😅
Ditch the stupid tall tires and ridiculous rim backspacing...
Keep up the great work Wes! ❤
When I first read 6 hour, I thought the truck had come back after 6 hours of operation and needed attention to a pump you'd just installed. I'm glad I was wrong. Great job, Wes.
Wow that only to 15:34. Record time hahahah I like the bell ringing telling you it was loose.
Thanks Wes for sharing a little of your life and your talents!!
We have that Canadian smoke bad here in MI too. It’s also been crazy dry up till about 10 days ago. My grass doesn’t look this yellow and dry till the end of August usually. Finally been getting rain recently, so hopefully we will recover a bit.
Let’s make the water pump gear drive so if a belt breaks it doesn’t overheat but if the pump seal goes bad it puts coolant in the oil
Imagine in 10 years and that truck at the north side 😂😂😂😂😂 everything would break 😂😂😂😂
Now you can add tool-maker to your resume.
*Thank You* for the video Wes and I hope you and your family enjoyed the canoeing. 👍👍👍
LMAO
Another amazing video Wes, I haven’t been this addicted to watching something since the Love Boat on Saturday night.
The Love Boat ??? GAG !🤮🤮🤮
Love boat
Love, exciting and new
Come aboard. we're expecting you.
Love, life's sweetest reward.
Let it flow, it floats back to you.
The love boat soon will be making another run
The love boat promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure,
Your mind on a new romance.
Love won't hurt anymore
It's an open smile on a friendly shore.
The love boat soon will be making another run
The love boat promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure,
Your mind on a new romance. (1st time end)
Love won't hurt anymore
It's an open smile on a friendly shore.
It's love! it's love! it's love!
It's the love boat-ah! it's the love boat-ah!
Sorry......
I used to work in industrial.
They used to give me a hard time about having vaseline in my toolbox for O-rings. Then I found out about Astroglide not a joke. It’s made for o rings. Never put anything together using anything else. It is awesome.
I live in Portugal (I'm Portuguese) quite near our border with Spain and, as crazy as it may sound, we have also been having adverse climatic effects due to smoke from the Canadian wildfires. Crazy! All across the Atlantic... Love your channel. Keep up the excellent work
That is crazy.
6 hour by-the-book job? According to the service manual, to replace the water pump on my Suzuki, you have to drop the engine! (Since it's inside the timing chain cover...)
I’d be putting a BIG note with BIG letters taped to the steering wheel “crank lock” and probably put a second sign attached to the key or fob, because I’d forget that thing. Happens when you’re old. Wait, what was I writing?
Hang the keys on the flywheel lock. Drill a hole so you can wire together.
@@toxichank6960 there ya go.
If you ain’t cheat’n, you ain’t try’n. Excellent job.
Please accept my praise and thanks for the great lighting and shots you got of this process with little to no access.
Nice work, thanks for the video. I just did one in a LMM, the only real difference was in addition to the shroud, there is also an inner shroud behind the fan which makes it a little more fun trying to get the fan off since it almost entirely blocks the fan nut 🤷♂️
If the engineers had to work on the designs themselves they would make it easier for us
Thanks for sharing Wes. It's fun watching Wes work!
Did it on my '05 once when i was doing the head gaskets. Had the whole nose off to do them in frame and decided to look up the book time , the minute i read what had to be done I ordered a new pump. Much easier with 3/4 of the engine and truck missing
Video and audio quality absolutely mint today. Not sure if anything changed? Maybe I'm just noticing. But especially the audio when running the electric ratchet or other loud noises like the engine running, sounds a lot less compressed. Regardless, best channel on UA-cam. Never change. And that hose was bothering me.
I didn't do anything different. I wonder if it has to do with the weather. No wind, higher humidity, etc..
Could be my ears hear different on a Friday.
@@WatchWesWorksound travels much more efficiently in humid air.
When you were naming all the parts that GM wants removed in order to fix the water pump I had to wonder “why?”. Has to be a profit driven decision. Great video!
I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea.
A DFM engineer will crawl over 2 miles of broken glass just to hear a mechanic get fucked over during a repair if it can save them $0.02 per unit.
It's actually gear drive
Look at that faulty logic. So kid... explain where the profit is.
5:20 There’s a harmonic balancer joke somewhere here.
Leave your door up. I’m bring my 2007 Duramax to you.
🤣🤣
As a GM guy, you'll never see me owning 1 of them trucks...
My LMM has been the best diesel I've had. 300k and not a major or internal part fail yet. Knock...
@@Steve_Just_Stevegod help you when it finally does break
@@Steve_Just_Steve make a yearly sacrifice to the injector gods🙏😁
6.0 Gas 5.3 gas 380,000+ Miles no big issues. Best motors.
No silly diesel pickup truck for me anymore.
Nightmares
Six hours? Only a dealership can break even on that sort of book time.
Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!
Your flywheel block should have a 'remove before flight' reminder tag attached to it that gets put in the ignition hole after the block is installed. That will keep you from forgetting it and sticking the key in the ignition.
Wes, where have you been? Are you being held against your will by Scotty Kilmer? If you need help just say so.
Love the sound of a duramax nice work, enjoyed the video!
Love these videos. Thanks for all the pointers, tips and tricks.
Glad you can enjoy some Canadian "cooking" :)
I think the crazy design is payback for the atomic bomb, but I could be wrong. Thanks Wes! You saved my weekend!
Japan will never forget :)
That was the whole point, or didn’t you pay attention in history class?
That's what I always say.
Who knows what design insanity lies in the years ahead. I wonder if the freedom of using CAD in designing these engines contributes to the insanity.
When engineers meet customers, yes, its called "The twilight Zone", that's why you need sales people, big mouth, small ears.
Production engineers, are at another level, can we weld it, its quicker those fancy screw threads and bolts?
Great job Wes, good to see the balanced approach. LOL.
Thanks for sharing.
Apparently we’ve got the worst air quality on earth so we’re off canoeing 😂
"We've got the worst air quality in the world, so we're going canoeing."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
All them ground hogs where probably headed over to oriellys ! 🤣
Now that's a MAN'S socket extension ! Hoo Rah
98,000 miles on my 2002 2500HD Duramax. I know this will eventually be coming. Thanks Wes!
"we really need rain"
Well now im clearing a million trees that storm was something else.
I'm a postal auto tech and try that job in a Chevrolet Express....... Still the worst ever. Good work Wes! Great videos man!
Great video Wes. You are one heck of a mechanic.
That’s why I stick to the pushrod gasser trucks. Super simple to repair anything LS.
I like push rod engines also.