You are so right. When the valve failed, it was in a place that I could not see. I had water stains on the wall afterwords. there are so many better options out there and manufacturers reall need to look into ways tonot have these in the inside of your RV.
We had a similar problem with a back flow valve. We just replaced it. Your solution is brilliant!!! Jarhead just finished RV tech school and really appreciates this video.
You can usually buy those garden hose vacuum breakers (aka anti-siphon valve) at Home Depot. The only concern with you method is that when you sell the trailer the next owner may not realize that need to use the vacuum breaker valve. They could connect directly and risk contaminating the water supply! My solution was more expensive but better for future owners. I replaced the junk plastic vacuum breaker with a good quality brass version. It’s a Watts LF288A valve. It can be purchased at most plumbing supply stores. I also had to use a couple male to male fittings because the LF288A has female threads.
So glad you found the problem quickly and you were there when the water started to leak. This could have been a lot worst. Great that you figured out a different way to connect the hoses so it wouldn't happen again. Really great info! Hope you're having a great weekend! 🤗
Great video and explanation of the vacuum breaker! We had a leaking vacuum breaker also. We just did a like-for-like replacement, but looking for something more. Thank you!
I have had mine this way for a while now and still works great. Just remember to never use the same how that you use for drinking water to flush the black tank. Better swafe than sorry/
Sorry to hear about your water leak, and glad you figured it out, the new way seams like it will be much better then running inside the bay, this is an awesome video thanks for explaining it in such detail... it makes it easier to understand what is going on.
Thanks for the video, great job. I like how you present your videos, one thing you may want to check on. Should the atmospheric vacuum breaker be installed vertically not horizontally or even at an angle. The system works off of gravity and water pressure, water pressure shut the valve to allow water to flow to the system, gravity opens the valve to allow air into the system to prevent backflow. You should be able to search for installation of a atmospheric vacuum breaker on UA-cam.
This is happening on my bullet 1700bh, the city supply side. I think there is some type of check valve behind where you hook up the main water hose inside under the main bed/storage area, it can seep water. I read something earlier elsewhere about the water pump, I turned it on a few seconds even though I never use it. It quit leaking for now, I also lowered the water pressure coming in. Did this when I first got the camper, then it quit for about 6 months, no leak. I did turn on/off water pump switch back then also, but I don't use my water storage tanks-I live in my camper full time (hurricane Ida destroyed house). Also the drain hose(s) underneath are open. Might need to get a plumber to re-plumb the city water connection and inside with brass fitting, something more robust. (his family live in their camper while building their house, he is a great plumber, uses very good fittings.
First off I am sorry to hear about your house and I have been praying for each and every one of you. As for seepage, I have had issues where water pressure got to high and pushed through hose connections. The connections just aren’t designed for high pressures like a home. Replumbing could be an answer but keep in mind the need for flexibility of you water lines while going down the road.
Great video and explanation of the breaker issue we all have or will have. My question is by removing the breaker at the high point will adding it at a lower point cause a sucking pulling all the water from the flush line back up the line to the breaker on the outside?
As long as you black tanks empty and the flush inlet is higher than the tank then you should be fine. Just make sure that you are using the water breaker that I showed in the video. Oh and never use th hose for the black water flush for anything but that.
Just be leary of thebwater that comes out the siphon valve.... That is black water that ends up running down the side of the camper. Doubtful that it actual pulls up dirty water from the tank but it has the capability of doing it.
I have tried to purposefully siphon backwards from the black tank and have yet been able to make that happen. I have heard of folks saying it is possible but I can not sem to makeit happen. That being said though, I domake sure that the black tank is completely empty before disconnecting the hose.
I have the exact same problem on my 26DBH 2021.... brand new.... (these cheaply built RV...), but i managed to spot it before any damage so i could prevent leaks with a towel. I will use your tips to fix mine this weekend.
My thoughts exactly. Told me neighbor why on earth doesn't the camper.come with an antisiphon hookup the brass piece you have. Out it outside the camper.and never ha e these cheap plastic pieces of crap freeze etc. My water source is a good 40 ft. From my camper with a hose pipe by the tome.i got to my camper.water was coming out from under my shower. Yes my vacuum breaker.black thingy was in my camper wall behind shower. Got carpet wet in my bedroom. I used a 90 degree brass elbow (bought a brass check valve but it made it extremely hard to thread the nuts (plastic) on it. After I got this fixed ND began running water through the sewer flush I heard nothing so I took septic hose off black tank all I had was a tiny stream of water. Well that ticked me off and then researched the sewer flush nozzle. It is nothing g but a metal nipple with ti y holes located near where your sensors are for water level. I decided that couldn't be doing g a good enough job so I bought a Flush King reverse back flow septic cleaner. Reverse flush will remove.paper that you never knew you had. I am NOT going through this vacuum break behind my.shower again, hopefully. Now my brass check valve works backward to this balaclava vacuum breaker if you decide to use one. You will see an arrow on the check valve showing you water direction. I think my shower nipple is clogged. If yours isn't do what thos guy said, make yourself a 90 degree pvc connection and use an anti siphon at your sewer flush inlet. Save big money too. That dang.black thingy is almost 50 $ and heaven forbid water settles in it over winter you're in this mess again. What rocket scientist thought thos was a great idea? I'm female I think I would known better.
Thank you for explaining the details in your comment. I would have to agree with you. As water damage is a major concern, you would think that manufacturers would invest more in anything that could potentially ruin your rv.
Great info! I first leaned about vacuum breakers when I bought my current house and had the one on our sprinkler system leak. Makes me wonder why they put that under the bathroom cabinet inside the RV. I'll have to keep an eye on that from now on when I flush my black tank.
I agree, I do not understand why they didnt come up with something located on the outside of the RV. I have heard of a lot of different folks having the same issue.
@@HowToRV now that I think about it, vacuum breakers need to be at a high point in the system, so that's probably why they put it under the sink instead of down by the tank. I've noticed on other rv walk-throughs the black tank flush port is on the same side as the bathroom, I suppose so they can locate the vacuum breaker like that. I always wished it was on the business side rather than the party side but now it makes more sense.
First time using the black tank flush this weekend, it wasn't bad but it leaked some while in use. Thankfully I already watched this video and had a towel under that vacuum breaker. Going to do your bypass before our next trip and I already ordered the external hose connection one you suggested so it won't be a problem going forward 👍
When I took out mine, I got luck y. The waiter line going to it was long enout and at the right angle to screw in the same place that the breaker was already in. I did not need to modify anything. I unscrewed the insinde water line coming from the outside connection. I unscrewed the line coming from the breaker that goes to the tank. Then put the tank line where the outside connection is. I am guessing that most people wont get this lucky but I did.
Inside the back flow preventer is a spring loaded flap. The spring is compressed closing the system so that the water can only go to the tank. Once you shut the water off, the spring pushes the flap back into place allowing air to get in and the rest of the water to go back to your tank and not back into the hose. What happens most of the time with these is that the flap gets stuck and water can go into your camper. That is what happened to mine. I do not think it had to do with pressure but regulating may help.
I don’t know if you can but may try bypassing it in some way. Not sure why yours is not letting water through though because usually when water can’t get through it release out the top of the breaker.
Subscribed and liked because you did NOT fluff this video- you explained the problem and the solution. Thank you!
This is such an inspiring comment. Thank you for reassuring my methods for video creation.
Super clear explanation of the failed part and resulting leak, great job on this video. Those plastic valves are just prone to failure.
You are so right. When the valve failed, it was in a place that I could not see. I had water stains on the wall afterwords. there are so many better options out there and manufacturers reall need to look into ways tonot have these in the inside of your RV.
@@HowToRV Yes that would be nice. I'd like to see them all using PEX. At least offer it as an option.
This just happened to us this morning!!!!!
This was VERY HELPFUL!!!
Thank you!!!
Glad it helped!
This just happened on my 26DHB 2020 this last weekend, I was looking to fix it so again you come through. Thanks a lot my man!!
Glad I could help!
We had a similar problem with a back flow valve. We just replaced it. Your solution is brilliant!!! Jarhead just finished RV tech school and really appreciates this video.
That means a lot. I wuld love to learn more about the RV tech school
You can usually buy those garden hose vacuum breakers (aka anti-siphon valve) at Home Depot. The only concern with you method is that when you sell the trailer the next owner may not realize that need to use the vacuum breaker valve. They could connect directly and risk contaminating the water supply! My solution was more expensive but better for future owners. I replaced the junk plastic vacuum breaker with a good quality brass version. It’s a Watts LF288A valve. It can be purchased at most plumbing supply stores. I also had to use a couple male to male fittings because the LF288A has female threads.
I just looked up the vacuum breaker that you mentioned. I love the idea. Thank you for sharing.
Awesome idea. I literally just had this happen this weekend. And was trying to think of a way to avoid it from ever happening again. Thank you
I am so glad that the video helped. There is nothing worse than having water where it is not supposed to be.
So glad you found the problem quickly and you were there when the water started to leak. This could have been a lot worst. Great that you figured out a different way to connect the hoses so it wouldn't happen again. Really great info! Hope you're having a great weekend! 🤗
Thanks. I like the fact that I do not have to worry about that again
Glad you found the problem. Those things can be hidden sometimes. Great info.
They sure can. I am glad that it was easy to access and in my case, delete it with a better method.
Great video and explanation of the vacuum breaker! We had a leaking vacuum breaker also. We just did a like-for-like replacement, but looking for something more. Thank you!
I have not had a problem since i movd to this method.
Genius!! Was just taking my black water flush piping apart because it was leaking. Going to do it this way, MUCH better. Thank you!!
I have had mine this way for a while now and still works great. Just remember to never use the same how that you use for drinking water to flush the black tank. Better swafe than sorry/
Sorry to hear about your water leak, and glad you figured it out, the new way seams like it will be much better then running inside the bay, this is an awesome video thanks for explaining it in such detail... it makes it easier to understand what is going on.
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the video, great job. I like how you present your videos, one thing you may want to check on. Should the atmospheric vacuum breaker be installed vertically not horizontally or even at an angle. The system works off of gravity and water pressure, water pressure shut the valve to allow water to flow to the system, gravity opens the valve to allow air into the system to prevent backflow. You should be able to search for installation of a atmospheric vacuum breaker on UA-cam.
I work in an industrial enviroment and familiar with the spring loaded types. They are built better but very expensive.
brilliant thank you!! I had the same problem yesterday, Water everywhere. I'm going to do this!!
Glad it helped. Let me know how it goes.
Genius! Had the same problem and this fixed it. Thank you.
So glad that it helped. Your welcome.
This is happening on my bullet 1700bh, the city supply side. I think there is some type of check valve behind where you hook up the main water hose inside under the main bed/storage area, it can seep water.
I read something earlier elsewhere about the water pump, I turned it on a few seconds even though I never use it. It quit leaking for now, I also lowered the water pressure coming in.
Did this when I first got the camper, then it quit for about 6 months, no leak. I did turn on/off water pump switch back then also, but I don't use my water storage tanks-I live in my camper full time (hurricane Ida destroyed house). Also the drain hose(s) underneath are open.
Might need to get a plumber to re-plumb the city water connection and inside with brass fitting, something more robust. (his family live in their camper while building their house, he is a great plumber, uses very good fittings.
First off I am sorry to hear about your house and I have been praying for each and every one of you. As for seepage, I have had issues where water pressure got to high and pushed through hose connections. The connections just aren’t designed for high pressures like a home. Replumbing could be an answer but keep in mind the need for flexibility of you water lines while going down the road.
I had the same leak I believe when I would flush the black tank, but it was under warranty, and they fixed it, but I like your way better.
It still warks great and no issues since
Great video and explanation of the breaker issue we all have or will have. My question is by removing the breaker at the high point will adding it at a lower point cause a sucking pulling all the water from the flush line back up the line to the breaker on the outside?
As long as you black tanks empty and the flush inlet is higher than the tank then you should be fine. Just make sure that you are using the water breaker that I showed in the video. Oh and never use th hose for the black water flush for anything but that.
Wow glad you found the problem fast. Plus you made it better that’s good
I am so hoping for no more leak issues from that area again.
Just be leary of thebwater that comes out the siphon valve.... That is black water that ends up running down the side of the camper. Doubtful that it actual pulls up dirty water from the tank but it has the capability of doing it.
I have tried to purposefully siphon backwards from the black tank and have yet been able to make that happen. I have heard of folks saying it is possible but I can not sem to makeit happen. That being said though, I domake sure that the black tank is completely empty before disconnecting the hose.
I have the exact same problem on my 26DBH 2021.... brand new.... (these cheaply built RV...), but i managed to spot it before any damage so i could prevent leaks with a towel. I will use your tips to fix mine this weekend.
It really works. I used this method this past week. No issues on my end. As always, check and then double check for leaks everywhere.
It's a B&B Model 571 in line vent Vacuum Breaker that has a Double Check Valve Inside of it.
Thanks for the feedback.
Sir, Thank you your description of the issue was perfect. 👍🏽 still not getting strong flow. But Thanks
Glad it helped
Yup. I’ve had to replace those before. 👍🏼
I am glad that it was in an area that i could delete it and come up with an alternative method
My thoughts exactly. Told me neighbor why on earth doesn't the camper.come with an antisiphon hookup the brass piece you have. Out it outside the camper.and never ha e these cheap plastic pieces of crap freeze etc. My water source is a good 40 ft. From my camper with a hose pipe by the tome.i got to my camper.water was coming out from under my shower. Yes my vacuum breaker.black thingy was in my camper wall behind shower. Got carpet wet in my bedroom.
I used a 90 degree brass elbow (bought a brass check valve but it made it extremely hard to thread the nuts (plastic) on it.
After I got this fixed ND began running water through the sewer flush I heard nothing so I took septic hose off black tank all I had was a tiny stream of water. Well that ticked me off and then researched the sewer flush nozzle. It is nothing g but a metal nipple with ti y holes located near where your sensors are for water level.
I decided that couldn't be doing g a good enough job so I bought a Flush King reverse back flow septic cleaner. Reverse flush will remove.paper that you never knew you had. I am NOT going through this vacuum break behind my.shower again, hopefully.
Now my brass check valve works backward to this balaclava vacuum breaker if you decide to use one. You will see an arrow on the check valve showing you water direction.
I think my shower nipple is clogged. If yours isn't do what thos guy said, make yourself a 90 degree pvc connection and use an anti siphon at your sewer flush inlet. Save big money too. That dang.black thingy is almost 50 $ and heaven forbid water settles in it over winter you're in this mess again. What rocket scientist thought thos was a great idea? I'm female I think I would known better.
Thank you for explaining the details in your comment. I would have to agree with you. As water damage is a major concern, you would think that manufacturers would invest more in anything that could potentially ruin your rv.
Great info! I first leaned about vacuum breakers when I bought my current house and had the one on our sprinkler system leak. Makes me wonder why they put that under the bathroom cabinet inside the RV. I'll have to keep an eye on that from now on when I flush my black tank.
I agree, I do not understand why they didnt come up with something located on the outside of the RV. I have heard of a lot of different folks having the same issue.
@@HowToRV now that I think about it, vacuum breakers need to be at a high point in the system, so that's probably why they put it under the sink instead of down by the tank. I've noticed on other rv walk-throughs the black tank flush port is on the same side as the bathroom, I suppose so they can locate the vacuum breaker like that. I always wished it was on the business side rather than the party side but now it makes more sense.
@@computerfixer06 you have a good point. I would think that they could build in the breaker at the fitting on the outside. Just my thoughts
First time using the black tank flush this weekend, it wasn't bad but it leaked some while in use. Thankfully I already watched this video and had a towel under that vacuum breaker. Going to do your bypass before our next trip and I already ordered the external hose connection one you suggested so it won't be a problem going forward 👍
Awesome info thanks for sharing...Glad that worked!!
No problem 👍
Water everywhere is good, in a bath tub. Sorry 😞 you're having issues.
Your right about the bath tub. The issue has been resolved and hopefully it will never leak again in that area.
when you take the original breaker out what did you restore that space with ? do you have a picture of what you restored it with ? thanks
When I took out mine, I got luck y. The waiter line going to it was long enout and at the right angle to screw in the same place that the breaker was already in. I did not need to modify anything. I unscrewed the insinde water line coming from the outside connection. I unscrewed the line coming from the breaker that goes to the tank. Then put the tank line where the outside connection is. I am guessing that most people wont get this lucky but I did.
Why does this happen? Are we supposed to use a pressure regulator on the flush intake ?
Inside the back flow preventer is a spring loaded flap. The spring is compressed closing the system so that the water can only go to the tank. Once you shut the water off, the spring pushes the flap back into place allowing air to get in and the rest of the water to go back to your tank and not back into the hose. What happens most of the time with these is that the flap gets stuck and water can go into your camper. That is what happened to mine. I do not think it had to do with pressure but regulating may help.
I am literally having this issue right now. I can't find the link to buy the parts. Help. Thanks.
Do you have the same camper?
Mine won't let water to the black tank
I don’t know if you can but may try bypassing it in some way. Not sure why yours is not letting water through though because usually when water can’t get through it release out the top of the breaker.
Most likely installed backwards. Check the water flow from the hose connection with the arrows on the vacuum breaker.
Where is the link?
Here is the link. amzn.to/3Pza9lb I appologize, I thought it was in there. Thank you for bringing this tomy attention.
I just went into the description of the video and added it there as well. Thanks again