That's a really great review, and sensible way to show what the RGT can do, in both stock, and mildly 'free' modded. I've seen these on Banggood, but been put off buying, partly buying remotely and not being able to see one in the flesh, and mainly not knowing anyone who has one, and not seeing many unbiased reviews. I was considering buying one of these for my son for Christmas in 2020, as he wanted a crawler, and ended up with an FTX Mauler, as I could go and get my hands on it. If only I'd seen a review like this. Thank you. 👍🏻
Thank you for your thoughtful feedback here, Rob. Glad you enjoyed it and sorry it wasn't around when you needed it! Hope the FMS has lived up to expectation! Cheers
What an astonishingly great little performer from a truck that's less than $300 U.S. I need to order like 4 of these, honestly. Just to con my friends into trailing with me then when they have a bunch of fun sell em to em for a slight discount. Lol.
It's always a good day when a new RC-TNT vid is up! Great tips! It's always so rewarding to see how few little changes wake up an otherwise middle of the pack rig. I still think I'd bite the bullet on the other [a tad more expensive, but a bit better overall out of the box] platforms. Probably Element's V2 Builders Kit and Gmade's GS02F Buffalo, in my case, not in any particular order, but depending on the kind of use and expectations.
The GS02F in particular is hard to pass on for pure semi scale crawling. You know, I am completely unfamiliar with the Element RC Enduro Builder's Kit (ah, discontinued, oh well). Should get around to having a look at that, and the Ecto (which upon inspection looks very similar to the Gatekeeper but with a polycarbonate body). Hmm.
Good info as usual, watching your videos! It's not a car I'm considering but lots to learn still for me. The info about the servo being put under more stress with better tyres, so obvious, but I never even thought of it! Now I want to go drive on some rocks, but everything is covered in snow, so maybe not just yet... Have a good one there, mate!
I had the EX86100 V1 Defier. Pretty bad on the turning radius but able to do pretty good on trails. I did the battery relocation upfront sharing it with the receiver box. So I had to use a shorty LiPo. And having it run on Hyrax tyres, boom.. it really rocked. But the V2 is so much better, just the cost is a little concern. Liked you said, a little more you can get a better rig. And as always, awesome video mate.
What a brilliant little rig Craig - love it, and what you've done to improve upon it! Wonder if I could get THAT body to fit my Sendero.....hmmmm? Great work as always my friend :)
I reckon you probably could, Mark. Dunno if it'd be worth the trouble in comparison to some of the other cheap bodies available on RCMart, AsiaTees, etc. etc. It isn't awful on the eyes, this one - if you're seriously considering it, let me know. I can always line the body up on the truck to see how it fits. Cheers
Interesting I watched the Sendero video & I’ve had mine for awhile now. This RC isn’t a bad one especially for use as a trail truck. Here’s one for you I have the 300$ Carisma Coyote 2.1 with upgraded esc & I had taken the original tires & wheels off the Sendero & got nice metal bead locks & some different tires. Then I put the stock wheels with general tires on the Coyote. That Coyote will out crawl & perform must of my crawlers now. I was blown away that the cheapest crawler I have is one of the best. Tires make a huge difference. The original wheels on the Obote where metal but super small. Putting that Sendero set on it did an amazing job to say the least. Now I use it with a 3s battery & it performed incredible now. A lot of times the things you do to a RC will make or break it. I’m still blown away everytime I take it out. So I understand where your coming from. Hearing that in some ways it’s better then the Sendero is kind of a shock at first but experiencing a transformation myself with. no extra money added really woke me up & confirmed you don’t have to spend a crap load on a RC to get the best performance. Best performance comes from what you do & make of it. Happy crawling my friend.
It’s nice how you were able to get such an increase in performance by doing so little. I never would of ever contemplated potentially purchasing this rig prior to your video. Have you tried JConcept Rupture tyres? They are beasts on the rocks!
I'm right there with you on buying this truck (outside of doing it for the channel, of course). But tuning can make a world of difference on most rigs from stock form and I'm glad this was no different. I have JConcepts tires to test in my next batch here, but I don't think they're Ruptures. That one is coming soon and I'm looking forward to adding more tire test data to the growing library we have here already! Thanks for the recommendation!
Well-done. I agree about the motor, too. I went from the stock 17 turrn motor in my Gen 8 V2 to a 27 (Holmes Crawlmaster Sport) and it's really improved low-speed performance.
I would suggest to go on HW 1080 with Holmes CM sport 5 slots 10T to get the best of it and super slow control more than a 27T 3 slots. Great video to start from a lower price rig.
@@RC_Ludz_N_Co Thanks. Those two motors are very similar in characteristic, the TM Sport 27T 550 3-pole and CM Sport 10T 550 5-pole. The 3-pole 27T is only marginally faster - they feel similar. I'd go a 13T 550 5-pole for that sweet spot on this one, I think. We'll see, I'm going to revisit this rig again soon. Cheers :)
Thank you for your reply, yea let's make some different try on it, i would think that the benefit of the 5 slots would be more on the drag brake, just tryed last week the 12T 5 slots and it was really noticable. Anyway cool videos, will follow ur different tests, thanks again for ur reply. Cheers
@@RC_Ludz_N_Co No worries. You'll get a very decent drag brake from a TM Sport 21T 550 even with a WP-1060, I guarantee it. Better again with the 1080 or ARC2 or similar ESC. Number of windings help but magnet quality plays a big role. Number of poles would be a factor too, I'm sure you're right on that. Cheers
I've seen the 1st video with that rig. Tires sure make a big difference. I think if someone bought it intending to upgrade it would be a pretty good truck for the value. But I agree that gen8 V-2 is a better starter rig for most. I love my gen8. I just got the TRX4 high trail edition and it is awesome. Great video like always buddy.
I found it goes actually well on the stock tires - we switched back in a subsequent video and it did really well. For value, epic. Outcrawls the Gen 8 V2 - which is a shame because I think the Redcat is a higher quality machine and definitely has a superior body!
Too fast without changing stock motor and being 17 turn, that esc would get hot! 21 or 27 turn 550 and 3s would be alright I think. Stay tuned for that in a future video
@@RCTNT I didn't think about that but like you said it's potential with a few mods but the price is to much ..I would rather have a gen 8 .. anyway thank you so much
@@royhopkins6197 $20 for a motor and you're away. This outcrawls the Gen 8 V2 with the better wheels and tires but it isn't as nice a rig overall as the Redcat. I'd do the same as you, if it was between these two. But if someone can get this thing cheaply or already has one, there's definitely plenty of room to up-spec without burning a hole in your wallet! Cheers
Thanks! I've got a whole playlist for this one, we did quite a lot on quite a little. Surprisingly decent performer with minor tweaks, isn't it. Cheers :)
Hi, Craig! Awesome as usual! I've got a question. What would you recommend for stock Gmade BOM (that I just cant assemble for a week - lack of time): should I mount softer foams to the front or to the rear axel?
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. For the GS02F, I'd start with stock configuration and go from there. It's beautifully well balanced as is. If you're getting too much tire roll on the front, you'd then go firmer. If you're getting insufficient tire deformation over obstacles on either end, then you'd look at dual stage and/or softer foams. Test then review, one change at a time, etc. Enjoy!
I've looked at this (sold as the FTX Hi-Rock here in the UK for around £250) so many times but passed just at the last minute for something else.. Maybe I'll give it another look.? Thanks mate, loving the channel.! Stay safe out there & best wishes from Scotland 🏴.! 😜 👍 ❤️ 📻 🕹️ 🔋 🚙 🚗 🚓 🚐 🚕 👍
It's really not bad. There's an upgrade video here that might help change your mind and just yesterday I filmed my stage 2 upgrade video - this thing gets better and better. That'll drop in the next week. Cheers
I bought one of these trucks, had the same issue. When I got it it's handle terrible. I ended up putting new shocks on it have your tires and wheels beadlocks. And some Frame Alignment. I haven't changed the motor yet, but you're right it's way too fast. Once I ironed out those issues though ComEd crawls very well now and handles grade and with a tight turning radius
They're seriously good once sorted. And, even better news for people who might have one that isn't modded yet, I found it can be modded to perform really well without having to replace much at all. Even the stock wheels and tires are surprisingly good! My ultimate tuning video for this model can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/XW2KO557p6U/v-deo.html
Sorry for the confusion. It does matter. You want to remove the right-upper front link. More detail in my article, in the Steering and Geometry section: rc-tnt.com/manufacturer/rgt/rgt-pioneer-ex86110-1-10-4wd-rc-rock-crawler/
What is the sandero v2 model you refer to? Considering this featured truck as I like the styling and what you’ve turned it from and future recommendations.
Hi Jim, happy to reply to comments! Helps me feel like I'm still around - I miss everyone. Thank you for the consideration though 😊 I moved the mount position to change the ride height of the vehicle. It's an easy way to improve body clearance (lift) or center of gravity (lower).
Great improvements with those simple mods! Maybe this would be a truck to inherit a takeoff motor or pinion from another rig, like if you have the stock titan motor out of a TRX4. Seems like a good candidate for hand-me-downs from other rigs. You're not technically spending more money on the RGT :)
About the lower speed, the knob on the controller, i think it's the one on the bottom right, i think it say, 0-100? If you turn that down you get a much slower crawler speed 👍
That's the end point, so you're artificially restricting your maximum throw. It does improve your resolution, yes - good workaround! - but doesn't solve the root of the problem. Never fear, we get to that in a later video! Great suggestion though, I wish I'd thought to mention it! Cheers
I mean, the Pioneer is bigger and can be more easily modded. It's more capable out of the box. Just look at my rc4 V2 and V3 videos, you'll see how much less capable they are!
Thanks for the quick reply, that's awesome, I appreciate your input! To throw a curve ball haha which would be best the pioneer or carisma sca 1e coyote?
@@Anthonyholdway Pioneer owns it, easily, in performance. However, if the money is similar, the Element Ecto will out-crawl the Pioneer. Or, if you prefer the truck body, the Sendero HD is close behind the Ecto. Pioneer is still really good, but Ecto is better.
Definitely. The Pioneer here may just be one of them. You've just watched the third part of four in my Pioneer series. The final one, with 'Final Form' in the thumbnail, gives a bit more info about its performance and some more testing. But you also might find our recent 4-way head-to-head video a good watch - that included Pioneer here too! ua-cam.com/video/psFjmvRa2Mc/v-deo.html Cheers :)
Things get more interesting with the RGT tires. I've got another video coming soon because I discovered something worth knowing about! Still investigating but I can't wait to get it out there!
Thanks :) Check out my second latest video where the Pioneer takes on the TRX4 Sport, Element Ecto and Axial Base Camp. This thing is a budget champ. ua-cam.com/video/psFjmvRa2Mc/v-deo.html
Sounds about right, yep :) Though this rig doesn't need the servo change with the stock tires. Check out the latest video on this truck from a couple of days ago. Only the motor change is needed for improved performance on the rocks.
That's a really great review, and sensible way to show what the RGT can do, in both stock, and mildly 'free' modded. I've seen these on Banggood, but been put off buying, partly buying remotely and not being able to see one in the flesh, and mainly not knowing anyone who has one, and not seeing many unbiased reviews.
I was considering buying one of these for my son for Christmas in 2020, as he wanted a crawler, and ended up with an FTX Mauler, as I could go and get my hands on it. If only I'd seen a review like this.
Thank you. 👍🏻
Thank you for your thoughtful feedback here, Rob. Glad you enjoyed it and sorry it wasn't around when you needed it! Hope the FMS has lived up to expectation! Cheers
What an astonishingly great little performer from a truck that's less than $300 U.S. I need to order like 4 of these, honestly. Just to con my friends into trailing with me then when they have a bunch of fun sell em to em for a slight discount. Lol.
Lol nice
It's always a good day when a new RC-TNT vid is up! Great tips! It's always so rewarding to see how few little changes wake up an otherwise middle of the pack rig.
I still think I'd bite the bullet on the other [a tad more expensive, but a bit better overall out of the box] platforms. Probably Element's V2 Builders Kit and Gmade's GS02F Buffalo, in my case, not in any particular order, but depending on the kind of use and expectations.
The GS02F in particular is hard to pass on for pure semi scale crawling.
You know, I am completely unfamiliar with the Element RC Enduro Builder's Kit (ah, discontinued, oh well). Should get around to having a look at that, and the Ecto (which upon inspection looks very similar to the Gatekeeper but with a polycarbonate body). Hmm.
Good info as usual, watching your videos! It's not a car I'm considering but lots to learn still for me. The info about the servo being put under more stress with better tyres, so obvious, but I never even thought of it!
Now I want to go drive on some rocks, but everything is covered in snow, so maybe not just yet...
Have a good one there, mate!
I enjoy watching summer stuff in the Northern hemisphere during our long dark winters down here :) cheers, same to you
I had the EX86100 V1 Defier. Pretty bad on the turning radius but able to do pretty good on trails. I did the battery relocation upfront sharing it with the receiver box. So I had to use a shorty LiPo. And having it run on Hyrax tyres, boom.. it really rocked. But the V2 is so much better, just the cost is a little concern. Liked you said, a little more you can get a better rig. And as always, awesome video mate.
What a brilliant little rig Craig - love it, and what you've done to improve upon it! Wonder if I could get THAT body to fit my Sendero.....hmmmm? Great work as always my friend :)
I reckon you probably could, Mark. Dunno if it'd be worth the trouble in comparison to some of the other cheap bodies available on RCMart, AsiaTees, etc. etc. It isn't awful on the eyes, this one - if you're seriously considering it, let me know. I can always line the body up on the truck to see how it fits. Cheers
Awesome job this Rig came a extremely long way with very little done yet very impressive!
Interesting I watched the Sendero video & I’ve had mine for awhile now. This RC isn’t a bad one especially for use as a trail truck. Here’s one for you I have the 300$ Carisma Coyote 2.1 with upgraded esc & I had taken the original tires & wheels off the Sendero & got nice metal bead locks & some different tires. Then I put the stock wheels with general tires on the Coyote. That Coyote will out crawl & perform must of my crawlers now. I was blown away that the cheapest crawler I have is one of the best. Tires make a huge difference. The original wheels on the Obote where metal but super small. Putting that Sendero set on it did an amazing job to say the least. Now I use it with a 3s battery & it performed incredible now. A lot of times the things you do to a RC will make or break it. I’m still blown away everytime I take it out. So I understand where your coming from. Hearing that in some ways it’s better then the Sendero is kind of a shock at first but experiencing a transformation myself with. no extra money added really woke me up & confirmed you don’t have to spend a crap load on a RC to get the best performance. Best performance comes from what you do & make of it. Happy crawling my friend.
Nicely said! And yep, very worth tinkering. Going in with an open mind and trying stuff, there are often surprising results to be had!
Reminds me so much of the ftx Hi Rock and for the money I think there good value with also good potential, great review as always buddy 👍
I'm unfamiliar with that one but if it's like this, then there'd be serious potential there too! Cheers :)
@@RCTNT looks very similar I'd even say there manufactured by the same company
@@NoLimitRC87 wouldn't be surprising if they look the same!
It’s nice how you were able to get such an increase in performance by doing so little. I never would of ever contemplated potentially purchasing this rig prior to your video.
Have you tried JConcept Rupture tyres? They are beasts on the rocks!
I'm right there with you on buying this truck (outside of doing it for the channel, of course). But tuning can make a world of difference on most rigs from stock form and I'm glad this was no different. I have JConcepts tires to test in my next batch here, but I don't think they're Ruptures. That one is coming soon and I'm looking forward to adding more tire test data to the growing library we have here already! Thanks for the recommendation!
Well-done. I agree about the motor, too. I went from the stock 17 turrn motor in my Gen 8 V2 to a 27 (Holmes Crawlmaster Sport) and it's really improved low-speed performance.
Perfect! Just what it wants, I think
I would suggest to go on HW 1080 with Holmes CM sport 5 slots 10T to get the best of it and super slow control more than a 27T 3 slots. Great video to start from a lower price rig.
@@RC_Ludz_N_Co Thanks. Those two motors are very similar in characteristic, the TM Sport 27T 550 3-pole and CM Sport 10T 550 5-pole. The 3-pole 27T is only marginally faster - they feel similar. I'd go a 13T 550 5-pole for that sweet spot on this one, I think. We'll see, I'm going to revisit this rig again soon. Cheers :)
Thank you for your reply, yea let's make some different try on it, i would think that the benefit of the 5 slots would be more on the drag brake, just tryed last week the 12T 5 slots and it was really noticable. Anyway cool videos, will follow ur different tests, thanks again for ur reply. Cheers
@@RC_Ludz_N_Co No worries. You'll get a very decent drag brake from a TM Sport 21T 550 even with a WP-1060, I guarantee it. Better again with the 1080 or ARC2 or similar ESC. Number of windings help but magnet quality plays a big role. Number of poles would be a factor too, I'm sure you're right on that. Cheers
I've seen the 1st video with that rig. Tires sure make a big difference. I think if someone bought it intending to upgrade it would be a pretty good truck for the value. But I agree that gen8 V-2 is a better starter rig for most. I love my gen8.
I just got the TRX4 high trail edition and it is awesome. Great video like always buddy.
I found it goes actually well on the stock tires - we switched back in a subsequent video and it did really well. For value, epic. Outcrawls the Gen 8 V2 - which is a shame because I think the Redcat is a higher quality machine and definitely has a superior body!
Thank you for the video I love it and I was wondering how it will perform with a 3s lipo battery ...
Too fast without changing stock motor and being 17 turn, that esc would get hot! 21 or 27 turn 550 and 3s would be alright I think. Stay tuned for that in a future video
@@RCTNT I didn't think about that but like you said it's potential with a few mods but the price is to much ..I would rather have a gen 8 .. anyway thank you so much
@@royhopkins6197 $20 for a motor and you're away. This outcrawls the Gen 8 V2 with the better wheels and tires but it isn't as nice a rig overall as the Redcat. I'd do the same as you, if it was between these two.
But if someone can get this thing cheaply or already has one, there's definitely plenty of room to up-spec without burning a hole in your wallet! Cheers
I love the rear roll cage
I have few rigs but I still love RGT... Great Review and Mods Mate.... 👍
Thanks! I've got a whole playlist for this one, we did quite a lot on quite a little. Surprisingly decent performer with minor tweaks, isn't it. Cheers :)
Hi, Craig!
Awesome as usual!
I've got a question. What would you recommend for stock Gmade BOM (that I just cant assemble for a week - lack of time): should I mount softer foams to the front or to the rear axel?
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. For the GS02F, I'd start with stock configuration and go from there. It's beautifully well balanced as is. If you're getting too much tire roll on the front, you'd then go firmer. If you're getting insufficient tire deformation over obstacles on either end, then you'd look at dual stage and/or softer foams. Test then review, one change at a time, etc. Enjoy!
@@RCTNT I got gs02f chassis by now.
Anyway thanks a ton!
I hope you have pre-ordered RGT EX86190.
It's looking like a trx4 alternative, yeah. Looking forward to seeing how it performs
I've looked at this (sold as the FTX Hi-Rock here in the UK for around £250) so many times but passed just at the last minute for something else..
Maybe I'll give it another look.?
Thanks mate, loving the channel.!
Stay safe out there & best wishes from Scotland 🏴.! 😜 👍 ❤️ 📻 🕹️ 🔋 🚙 🚗 🚓 🚐 🚕 👍
It's really not bad. There's an upgrade video here that might help change your mind and just yesterday I filmed my stage 2 upgrade video - this thing gets better and better. That'll drop in the next week. Cheers
Amazing what a good set of wheels and tires will do!
Yes, very much so! (That VS4-10 needs the same treatment but we'll try improving those stock tires first). This RGT was a pleasant surprise, yes :)
I bought one of these trucks, had the same issue. When I got it it's handle terrible. I ended up putting new shocks on it have your tires and wheels beadlocks. And some Frame Alignment. I haven't changed the motor yet, but you're right it's way too fast. Once I ironed out those issues though ComEd crawls very well now and handles grade and with a tight turning radius
They're seriously good once sorted. And, even better news for people who might have one that isn't modded yet, I found it can be modded to perform really well without having to replace much at all. Even the stock wheels and tires are surprisingly good!
My ultimate tuning video for this model can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/XW2KO557p6U/v-deo.html
In your other video,you remove left upper front link, but in this video its the otherwise,is there any difference?
Sorry for the confusion. It does matter. You want to remove the right-upper front link. More detail in my article, in the Steering and Geometry section: rc-tnt.com/manufacturer/rgt/rgt-pioneer-ex86110-1-10-4wd-rc-rock-crawler/
What is the sandero v2 model you refer to? Considering this featured truck as I like the styling and what you’ve turned it from and future recommendations.
This fella: ua-cam.com/video/seB9YpPPmu8/v-deo.html
Hey Craig, I know you’re taking a break right now, so no rush to reply. Just wondering, what was the reason for dropping the shock mount one hole?
Hi Jim, happy to reply to comments! Helps me feel like I'm still around - I miss everyone. Thank you for the consideration though 😊
I moved the mount position to change the ride height of the vehicle. It's an easy way to improve body clearance (lift) or center of gravity (lower).
Great improvements with those simple mods! Maybe this would be a truck to inherit a takeoff motor or pinion from another rig, like if you have the stock titan motor out of a TRX4. Seems like a good candidate for hand-me-downs from other rigs. You're not technically spending more money on the RGT :)
That's exactly the plan :)
@@RCTNT Awesome! Great minds think alike 👏
Like the looks of the truck 🛻.
Yeah! It really isn't too bad, eh?
About the lower speed, the knob on the controller, i think it's the one on the bottom right, i think it say, 0-100? If you turn that down you get a much slower crawler speed 👍
That's the end point, so you're artificially restricting your maximum throw. It does improve your resolution, yes - good workaround! - but doesn't solve the root of the problem. Never fear, we get to that in a later video!
Great suggestion though, I wish I'd thought to mention it! Cheers
@@RCTNT haha yeah, it has worked many times when i crawl over different objects.
Oh ok! Looking forward to that video!
@@Off3er awesome! Here you go :)
ua-cam.com/video/Ej3pgoTltWA/v-deo.html
Im in the market would you get this Or the rc4 v2 or v3 there all close to the same price! V2 and v3 $300-320 and ex86110 is $450
I mean, the Pioneer is bigger and can be more easily modded. It's more capable out of the box. Just look at my rc4 V2 and V3 videos, you'll see how much less capable they are!
Thanks for the quick reply, that's awesome, I appreciate your input!
To throw a curve ball haha which would be best the pioneer or carisma sca 1e coyote?
@@Anthonyholdway Pioneer owns it, easily, in performance. However, if the money is similar, the Element Ecto will out-crawl the Pioneer. Or, if you prefer the truck body, the Sendero HD is close behind the Ecto. Pioneer is still really good, but Ecto is better.
Thanks so much, awesome help! The element options are a fair bit more at the moment! I think I'll settle for the pioneer 🥳
@Anthonyholdway old but good. Check out my series of tests and upgrades for it. Good car 👍
How about EX86100 V2 please?
I've ordered one and will review it, just for you! Ordered today, so it might be a bit, but it'll happen soonish.
@@RCTNT Woah. Thank you in advance..I am quite anxious to learn Your opinion on that.
It's not here yet but I'll try not to keep you waiting!
2:10 don't you hate it when a pony comes into your shot? hahaha arf arf.....
Heh, that's Tully's main job on 'set'. She takes her role very seriously.
That is just so much better,,absolutely,,😁😁😁👍,,,didn't know about tyres n servo,,🤔👍
It was satisfying, yeah! Thanks for watching :)
Is there any car that can solve your 6 problem mates?
Definitely. The Pioneer here may just be one of them. You've just watched the third part of four in my Pioneer series. The final one, with 'Final Form' in the thumbnail, gives a bit more info about its performance and some more testing. But you also might find our recent 4-way head-to-head video a good watch - that included Pioneer here too!
ua-cam.com/video/psFjmvRa2Mc/v-deo.html
Cheers :)
Nice video, thank you for it:)
Things get more interesting with the RGT tires. I've got another video coming soon because I discovered something worth knowing about! Still investigating but I can't wait to get it out there!
Wow very cool bro
Thanks :)
Check out my second latest video where the Pioneer takes on the TRX4 Sport, Element Ecto and Axial Base Camp. This thing is a budget champ.
ua-cam.com/video/psFjmvRa2Mc/v-deo.html
👍👍👍
$55 will get you a 55 t motor, a smaller pinion, and a 35kg servo.....
Sounds about right, yep :) Though this rig doesn't need the servo change with the stock tires. Check out the latest video on this truck from a couple of days ago. Only the motor change is needed for improved performance on the rocks.