Our Forgotten Gods - Meenakshi Jain -
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- In this Indic Talk, one of the finest historians of India, Meenakshi Jain, debunks the claims made by leftist historian about Indian history. In the first part - she covers the important chapter of Indian history, before medieval era, on how Hindu kings used to treat temples and murtis of their rival Hindu kings? She also highlights the Agama practices of idol-worship especially in the case where one Hindu king defeats another Hindu king.
In the second part - she shares the traumatic experience of Hindus as they witnessed the destruction of their temples and the sacred places. She mentions various historical records such as temple hagiographies and site histories to substantiate her claims. This talk also discusses the various kinds of innovative responses to Islamic iconoclasm that were developed by Hindus during the medieval period. On the whole, this talk prompts Hindus to ask a couple of poignant questions: Have we forgotten our gods? Have we forgotten the story of our temples and what happened to them?
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Thank you Dr Jain and Centre for Indic Studies.
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Why medial times? Destruction of Buddhist statues in Afghanistan shows that their destructive and barbaric roots havent changed
Buddhas of the bamyan
Since 1947 Temples demolished in pakistan and bangladesh till today.
MEENAKSHI JAIN is my absolute hero/in. Her brand Academia is compelling. I love her lectures. Indeed I review them often. Such is the quality of her Academia. Thank you for your service to the Indian civilization. A super tenuous one, for sure!
read her books
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@@southernwind2737 more information or your divisive propaganda?
@@abhinavshukla2202 Is there anything more divisive than "Manu" code? Mine are facts.
@@southernwind2737 why don't you quote the verse word to word which you call divisive. And let me know in which part of Indian history was it fundamentally implemented, if at all you find something.
You ma'am are contributing to the continuity of a civilization...no mean one that! Pranaams!
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You are saving our roots, history, our culture, and religion ma'am. Pranaaam.
Undoubtedly, its such a informative and an eye-opener session, but also an emotional ride for me as a Hindu. शत-शत नमन मीनाक्षी जी!
a learned lady with a rich knowledge of undistorted Indian history and culture.Thanks a lot.
A grand narrative Sanatana Dharmas (Hindu,Buddha,Jain) and their tolerance and mutual teen experience.!
Reminds me of the campaign of Afzal Khan against Shivaji is interesting.
Afzal Khan with a large army marched against Shivaji.
Shivaji moved to Pratapgad a hill fort surrounded by dense forests.
Knowing that it would be difficult to capture or kill Shivaji when he was lodged in Pratapgad, Afzal Khan destroyed temples including those of Shivaji’s family deity, the Bhavani mata at Tulzapur.
Shivaji refused to be baited.
He sent a “mercy petition”, to the Khan, lured him to the foothills of Pratapgad, they had a meeting, and the Khan had his intestines torn out and his head cut off, his corpse languishes near to where he fell.
If only the other Hindus had dealt with the iconoclasts the way Shivaji did as against being fixated with moorties and their temples. (See Dr. Jain’s talk titled “Flight of deities” for context)
Wonderful anecdote brother- Hindus always had this sadguna vikriti demonstrated by Prithviraj Chauhan or Rana Hameer- it took us centuries and men of Maharana and Chhatrapati's wisdom to rip apart the jehadis the way they did us.
@@sukritsingh8456 Thanks sir
She's just so rigorous Frank, and solid!
That’s her greatness! Her pedagogical rigour, gives her that cool
Confidence with which she can softly defeat her opponents without even raising her voice!! Amazing dr Meenakshi Jain!!
Dr. Jain needs to be lauded for a clear, unemotional academic presentation of the topic of Islamic Iconoclasm in India. However, even if the Almighty Lord Shiva were to convince our "fiberal" establishment, their response would still be the same....It never happened!! That is what is amazing and frustrating. Chacha Nehru, in creating the ecosystem he did while we were trying to come out of abject poverty, screwed us all, all the time wearing that little red rose on his lapel.
Sir, u can buy her book on this topic and her series of books, named 'the india they saw'
Yes
Kalinga the best!!
Thanx a lot mam,u r d reason to convert me from secular to proud Hindu,I always was secular to d core,during my engineering days my cook was a Muslim,even faced stones after India won d match against pak, I didn't thought why all these things r happening,but life exp.tought me this that be unapologetic about ur heritage .secularism is one way street, only when Hindu is majority until then there is secularism. We were not allowed to go through old city where Muslims are in majority .
After Ayodhya now it's turn for Kashi
Meenakshi Jain is a dedicated and competent archivist... following in the steady, gifted path of K.S. Lal, she turns her intensely focused research into useful and valuable intellectual data, to which modern scholars need to have serious access inform their analyses.
Hindu kings even did not destroyed mosques even though they could have done it easily
I simply loved your talk. Logical interesting,clear ,precise and highly relevant to the making of anew India, an Indian Renaissance with price and appreciation of our true history and heritage!👌👌👌💐💐💐💐
We need to see, how these narratives can be assimilated in the mainstream rather than remaining as an alternative narrative.
While watching my eyes full of tears . how great kings were great never insulted other beliefs thank to my mother that I born in great religion.
Thank you very much for your sense of responsibility as a true Hindu for speaking for our dharma madam.God bless you!
Thank you Maam...we have to restore our rich , traditional and cultural backgrounds from being further desecrated!!
Dr Jain, you have done a great job of putting the facts right. We must be connected to our roots to pass on the heritage to our future generations. Thanks a lot madam.
Excellent talk, Dr Jain. We are acquainted as neighbours although we have not met often. But you make me proud and make our colony proud.
The General who bought the Vatapi Ganapati from Chalukyas was a great Shiva Bhakth, he later known as the Siruthondar because of his devotion to Shiva.
Very detailed and logical research of Indic history refuting the story made up by western and leftists historians.thank you Dr Jain.
This is certainly a great effort and is beyond academics. She has verily taken on the mantle of Dharmika leadership. Swami Vivekananda once spoke of such a role which ought to be played by the Knowledgeable Ones among the Indian people.
Madam other great example could be of Kanchi Ganesh inside famous lord Jagannath madir.
King of Odisha in one of the battle defeated the Kanchi king and from there he brought the Kanchi Ganesh idol. Since 12th century Kanchi Ganesh is worshipped inside Lord Jagganath Temple.
She gave that example in another interview of hers with Raj Malhotra
What a counter mam.👌 Excellent work.
Thank you bharat mata.
Arahan alhaqiqat bharat mata ki jai vandmataram😍😍😍😍😍
@@manmathsinghdeo5220 go find your father first .
@@kirankhande2512 hahahaha..I have one mother and father and I know who they..what about the Bhakts?
@@manmathsinghdeo5220 tva me va maata, pita tva me va i.e You are my mother, My father is also you. That's how u address your motherland. But u won't get it because the space in between ur ears is VOID
@@adflix424 I have one mother and father..
I am getting thoughtless completely whenever I go through my proud Hindu Bharat history.
Outstanding!! How resilient, intelligent and collective our ancestors have been across 5000 yrs to have the civilization survive and continue inspite of invaders single handed genocide of dharm. Clearly they are asuras fighting against dharm
I hope the excellant findings of Meenakshi ji are included in our History syllamus of schools and colleges throughout the country.
Lots of love and respect from ODISHA. Need more of these vdos.
she should get prime time on TV teaching about the real history of India and Indians, and how the society mind set was colonized.
Ma'am I would love to hear more of your talks, please consider starting a UA-cam channel of your own. You are a true blue researcher and a speaker of great lucidity and clarity. Very professional too. So much to imbibe from...dhanyavaad, prayers for your good health and continued research and writing.
नमस्कार गुरू माँ,
आपकी सनातन संस्कृति के प्रति श्रद्धा और उसको कठिन समय मे भी बचा कर रखने के लिये आपको कोटि कोटि प्रणाम।
हमारी संस्कृति ने सदैव समय समय पर कई ऋषियो व विदुषियो को जन्म देती हे।
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Thank you Dr Jain for this informative, engaging talk. The inferences and facts are backed by solid evidence.
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Thank you mam for enlightening us,eager to see more videos on related subjects
You are brilliant and your authoritative, insightful analysis and commentary is always well worth listening to. But I must say ‘Poor Orissa, seemed to be having a hard time’!
Uthrapathiswaraswamy Temple in Nagapattinam, Tamilnadu is where you'll find the Vatapi Ganapati. The story of the Pallava King is described on the wall of the temple.
Great work Madam, You are such profound Historian whose expertise, services shall be used in New Education Policy and framing the syllabus for future History Text books for CBSE/NCERT
In Madame Jain’s book the painting, “Sadi throwing a priest from Somnath down a well,” is utterly horrifying in its implications 🙏
congrats ma'am for the well deserved recognition
continue to unravel, educate and inspire
ಪದ್ಮಶ್ರೀ ಡಾ ಮೀನಾಕ್ಷಿ ಜೈನ ಅವರ ಈ ಪ್ರವಚನ ಬಹಳ ಮಾಹಿತಿ ಪೂರ್ಣ, ಆಸಕ್ತಿದಾಯಕ ಮತ್ತು ಮಾದರಿಯಾಗಿದೆ. ಧನ್ಯವಾದಗಳು 🙏
...too good....heard nothing like this before...Ma'am..you are very correct...too good...god bless..
Aditi Mukherjee; How would you know it is good unless you know the history. She was very selective with the material to suit her bias. Now worship the fictitious vicious Durga with 10 hands riding a lion and Kali the witch.
Another labour of love by Dr. Jain. Painstaking research. She has devoted her entire life to challenge & question earlier falsehoods .
No wonder folks are rattled.
another point : Hindu rulers were tolerant to jews , parsis , christians etc and did not attack their religious places then why would they destroy temples built by rival hindu kings ?
Thank you Dr Jain for explaining everything in such simple and beautiful way, it’s very useful 🙏🏼
29:20 that same Jain idol which Tughlaq was convinced to give back by Jinprabhsuri MSji and the same temple where it was re-consecrated is still operational in Delhi to this day.
Great. Let forces like you join together. Rajiv Malhotra's Infinity Foundation and Srijin
Awesome Meenakshi ji. Very eyeopening
Great work Ma'am you are awesome
The details of the respect by kings towards deities brought tears into our eyes
Ending was simply superb, so apt and summarizing our culture
I don't understand the disclaimer in the end, from the lecture its evident that she is talking about facts. Are these really her opinion or facts or this disclaimer is wrongly placed? Center of Indic studies- Please clarify.
Very informative...an eye-opener...Hindus being religious seekers..don't feel the need to desecrate ...other religions's artifacts...unlike religions that originated from outside India....
Dr Meenakshi Jain does rigorous research in the subjects she talks or write. It is enriching to hear her talk.
Thank You Dr. Jain for the wonderful talk. Let me extend Heartiest Congratulations for winning the Padmashiri 2020.
Koti koti Dhanyawad Dr Jain 🙏🏼
Thanks mam.
I have noted all the point in paper to counter my freind who argued me on this topic recently.
Taking away a murti is not abusing the sacred in history. For example in Odisha the Gajapati King Prataprudra avenged his honor by defeating the Kanchipura king in the South and brought Sri Kanchi Ganesh and Goddess Tarini. These are being worshipped. The 1st is even now in the Puri Temple of Jagannath. So no invasion of temple either for desecration or for loot of riches. This loot tradition is foreign to the Hindu culture.
Omg ...lot of work ...good work 🙏🙏🙏
Dhanywaad Meenakshi ji, aapne kai logon ki ankhein khol di hain. Kripaya Hindi bhasha ya anya Bhartiya bhashaon mein bhi in tathayon ke sabke liye ujagar kerien. Pranam.
Awesome, so many examples...learnt a lot.
Prof. Jain is a true scholar!!
Thanks for educating us. Let Renaissance take place. Our glorious past!!!!!
Vatapi Ganapati stotra is set to raag hamsdhwani and sung even today
Sambuddha Ghosh. It is sung for Sri Ganesh, a MURDA to remove life obstacles. How stupid are you? Worshipping fictitious, vicious Durga with 10 hands riding a lion. and Kali the witch with blood dripping from her tongue. Satyemeva Jayete.
@@prosantomukerji3931 it is always advisable for a hindu to never take things by its face value but try to find out the underlying philosophy behind each incident ,each swaroop of the Divine.And most importantly the swaroop of Maa Durga or Maa Kali might not be appealing to you.But that does not give you the authority to vilify or mock the faith of millions of those who hold their faith unto the Great Mother Goddess .Lastly pray to the Divine,whichever form seems appealing to your senses, to provide you with a sadguru.I am sure he will be able to dispel the darkness of ignorance and allay your fears (or hatred precisely ) towards the most merciful Maa. Stay safe and happy .
Dr. Meenakshi Jain ji KO SHAT SHAT NAMAN 🙏. Her Herculean effort is admirable so also her contribution. She is a boon to Hindus.
Brilliant in its content and delivery madam. We Bharat wasis will remain grateful to you always.
Thank you so much for giving us insight of original history.
Madam, shat shat naman to you for your research and devotion to the truth 🙏🙏🙏
thanks for mentioning Vijaya Nagaram .. many people dont know the name
Mujhe pata hai
Excellent talk Maam..I m enlightened.
Also kanchi Ganesh idol was taken by odia king by defeating kanchi and used to be worshipped in jaganath temple for years
Mam, I completely agree with your argument about the struggle of Hindus BUT... There are some idiots in our history also
Kulottunga Chola 2: Thrown the Image of Govinda raja swami into the sea which used to be in the Chidambaram temple complex. It is because he is Shaivite and hates Vaishnavism. He is the one Who blinded Kuratt-Alwar a devotee of Vishnu and disciple of Ramanujacharya. He tried to kill Ramanujacharya. He is named as Krimikantha in Vaishnava texts.
But I also acknowledge that Chola rulers constructed Gopurams in Tirupati, Sri Rangam etc.
I heard storied of Jains attacking Shiva temples and vice versa.
And now Modi is being voted out future generation would be lamenting this as the last chance for Hindus and also we Hindus Voted for Free loan write off and free petrol and gas and lost our land and lives this will be the History .. I urge all Hindus please Vote Modi and make him win iin 2019 .. also tell your relatives and friends
He's back brother
🙏🏻 साधुवाद।
बेहद महत्वपूर्ण ज्ञान और उतना ही महत्वपूर्ण संदेश देने के लिए।
btw , the 4 dislikes are leftists
i am literally crying right now
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@@nathanthing8789 Just a disliker
Thanks to the scholars like Minakshi ji that we have this verified facts. Else entire world is pushing hard to destroy Hindu culture
Thank you so much Ma'am for this! ❤
There are thousands of odia litreture describing about how jaganath murti was hided from invaders. Even murti was kept under a tree for years. What these leftists are talking about?There are thousands of horror stories how people died saving their temples and dieties. One general of mughal only have destroyed 18000 temples in odisha. Even puri jaganath temple was rebuilt in 1100 ad.
The way you captured evidence are really worth knowing. And eye opener for Indians.
Thank you Meenakshi ji.
We are lucky to have people like you.
good work
It should be deity not God. God is s a western concept. The Abrahamic religions use God not Bharatiya civilization
No
All civilizations have Gods just go look at Mesopotamia,Babylon,Egypt and even the Mesoamerican civilizations
The word Neteru in Egyptian means Gods,the Annunaki or Annanua in Mesopotamian,I can go on and on
@@Texasmade74 No here deity and God are different
@@rajkamald6432 no they are not
Commendable work Mam... Thanku for this knowledgeable information...Now its our duty to spread ur work all over... 🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏
Thank a lot for an enriching session
So much has happened to our dear motherland , our Gods.😪
Such a mind blowing lecture..Thank you Ma'am
meenakshi jain ji you are great . i salute you.
🙏🙏ocean of knowledge meenakshi mam
Mam can you tell how neminath bagwan jain 22 Tirthankara shri krishna brother converted into thirupathi balaji temple?
Where hindus claims its balalji but no evidence either by both sides
Because only jains murtis they use luxury marbels
Thank you madam. Great presentation.
Yet we are interested in unity of all religions
Great historian
Dr.Jain, please note that Raja Narasimhan varma Pallava carried the Vathapi Ganapathi to his kingdom, whose capital was Kanchipuram. Not to Tanjore as you say! Tanjore or Tanjavoor was the capital of the mighty and admirable Cholas.
Excellent work and narration
The Athi Vardar of Kanchi is another example
Athi Vardar is a 2500 year old murti of Vishnu made from the fig tree
To save the murti from the cancer spreading barbaric scums the murti was hidden in a chamber in the temple
Ever since then the Murti is brought out for public worship for 48 days only once in 40 years
Many millions of people, including the PM and President of India had the opportunity to view the Athi Vardar murti this year
Next time it'll be open for public is in the year of 2059!!
Great research,Dhanyavaad Professor.
I plead all the listeners to Dr. Minakshi ji’s discourse to give a thought why King Lalitaditya’s name has totally been obliterated from out History text books.
Pl. talk about how Aurangzeb declared that all new Hindu temples have to be destroyed and then said that those that were renovated recently belong the "new temple" group.