Why are Sukuna's Binding Vows so Confusing?

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  • Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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  • @samuraitadpole5459
    @samuraitadpole5459 5 місяців тому +423

    Can't even blame people for misunderstanding when the official translator is messing up

    • @Mr_rizz_funny_role
      @Mr_rizz_funny_role 5 місяців тому +5

      It’s open domain so like remember the Shibuya incident a disintegrated everything around it and 140 m radius yeah that’s how he was able to trap Maki

    • @pushriathecat1
      @pushriathecat1 5 місяців тому +9

      viz really needs to fire john werry 😭

    • @theonewayroad3867
      @theonewayroad3867 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@pushriathecat1 Yeah, not gonna happen after all the nonsense he's done even across multiple different manga and he hasn't been fired then he's not going anywhere...

  • @diogitalk
    @diogitalk 5 місяців тому +170

    Was recently confirmed by Lightning that it's an open domain, the reason the translators messed up, is because the narrator was explaining how the domain wasn't closed.

    • @lordgrub12345
      @lordgrub12345 5 місяців тому +12

      The goat lightning always comes to save

  • @CoolOkay_
    @CoolOkay_ 5 місяців тому +102

    Because Sukuna knows how to cheese the binding vow system more than anyone else.

    • @oddlysatisfiedviewer8568
      @oddlysatisfiedviewer8568 4 місяці тому +4

      Not a lot of people realize this despite hakari literally doing the same thing

    • @CoolOkay_
      @CoolOkay_ 4 місяці тому +6

      @@oddlysatisfiedviewer8568 True, I'd cheese tf out of the system too if I could. "Plagued by various mental health disorders, he was backed into a corner. But to amend this, he undertook a binding vow to get rid of these in exchange for a higher iQ!" Type shi 🗿

    • @AhmadKazan-wk7ei
      @AhmadKazan-wk7ei 3 місяці тому +2

      Problem is half of the vows aren't explained till like 5 chapters after the plot convinient moment happened,hakari's binding vow is the only non forced natural battle integrated binding vow up until this point.

  • @MasterChef1957
    @MasterChef1957 5 місяців тому +19

    Throughout court rooms and the Heien era sukuna alone is the master of loopholes

  • @khalilcollins65
    @khalilcollins65 5 місяців тому +138

    Sukuna has BEEN the binding vow merchant. Anyone who says he’s pulling them out his ass forgets he wouldn’t even be in Megumi’s body rn if he hadn’t made a clever ass Vow with Yuji to bring him back to life.

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 5 місяців тому +36

      !!! Someone that actually pays attention lol. Nah fr Sukuna is the one that introduced binding vows into the story.

    • @scarecrow4611
      @scarecrow4611 5 місяців тому +11

      While I do agree with that it’s just kinda bs if we look at the full picture like Why did Gojo d ride Sukuna? Like Sukuna had to permanently change his attack to even win (not counting the Heiran Era Transformation he had) or why didn’t Gojo just use a Binding vow to either Increase the Strength of the Maximum Hollow purple or just a binding to vow to regenerate his body with the price of one of his techniques (like for example sacrificing Blue) and Sukuna constantly using a technique he hasn’t used since the Heian era doesn’t make things better (also why were that Sukuna was still holding back like wtf)

    • @sageoverheaven
      @sageoverheaven 5 місяців тому +15

      ​@@scarecrow4611Do you consume JJK through memes? That Heian Era Technique meme, as hilarious as it is, hasn't actually happened once, save for his CT and his Furnace.

    • @scarecrow4611
      @scarecrow4611 5 місяців тому +3

      @@sageoverheaven it did happen once with the wicker basket and if it continues he will do it again.

    • @sageoverheaven
      @sageoverheaven 5 місяців тому +13

      @@scarecrow4611 Wicker Basket is something so many people have. Kashimo, most likely Ryu, even Reggie Star had it (and introduced it). Why _wouldn’t_ he have it? 💀 It's like standard kit for ancient sorcerers.

  • @Superjay-sr8nb
    @Superjay-sr8nb 5 місяців тому +74

    My question is, what is he giving up? Usually you give up x to get y. For example, simple domain, my feet need to be on the ground for my simple domain to activate (I'm giving up mobility to gain simple domain)

    • @bonzoluv
      @bonzoluv 5 місяців тому +25

      Considered how much it's inspired by HxH. Gege must be taking a page out of Togashis book by not explaining most restrictions past the first arc. Like I don't think a single Chimera Ant had a explained condition they just did OP things with seemingly no restriction.

    • @zgtolerance5631
      @zgtolerance5631 5 місяців тому +6

      It could've been that Gojos indra hand sign is required as well as the use of making hand sign for shrine possible with right arms only. I'm just reaching though because there's not much else I can think of ATM.

    • @Human_traain
      @Human_traain 5 місяців тому

      He's sacrificing its power

    • @IsThatAThaiName
      @IsThatAThaiName 5 місяців тому

      Maybe his domain would last like 150 secs but with the new seal only 99

    • @khalilcollins65
      @khalilcollins65 5 місяців тому +22

      @@bonzoluvsorry but you’re very wrong. Pitou’s Dr Blythe couldn’t move from its set position and was connected to her tail. Youpi’s nen evolution was tied directly to his rage, something he couldn’t control at first. Pouf’s little butterflies could only be so small, and his main body couldn’t be smaller than a small bird or something like that. Also while he was split up his cells were all vulnerable as hell. Using those 3 as examples cuz they’re the strongest ants beside Meruem and they all had abilities with complex restrictions that could feasibly be taken advantage of. Their abilities were cracked out partially because of this. Hell even Meleoron’s completely undetectable ability forced him NOT TO BREATHE. The Ants just had hella aura and base superhuman stats, that’s why they seem just broken for no reason.

  • @xebec995
    @xebec995 5 місяців тому +41

    Sukunas domain being open barrier has nothing to do with his dismantle targetting inanimate objects. Those 2 properties were mention together but they are 2 separate properties. Sukuna probably uses a different binding vow to target inanimate objects than the one he uses to expand his open domain range.

    • @Blackjesus327
      @Blackjesus327 5 місяців тому

      Thank you. The doamin having no barrier just made it big. It’s like people can’t read.

    • @xebec995
      @xebec995 5 місяців тому +4

      @@Blackjesus327 facts. CE is more complex than most power systems, but if u read carefully it not that difficult to get

    • @monschi1715
      @monschi1715 5 місяців тому

      The thing is i dont know if taking the rim of the area as barrier would work bc unlike megumi who hadnt been able to create a barrier and therefore needed to take the House as one. An open de still has a barrier but its just not closed. Like the outer shell isnt created. Similar to the anti gojo de in goodwill event and its explaination.

  • @zewatcher9756
    @zewatcher9756 5 місяців тому +7

    I thought the reason malevolent shrine was able to target Maki was because its a domain that relentlessly slashes anything in it's aoe. Like how all the buildings in shibuya was completely decimated despite them being similar to Maki, no curse energy.

    • @theonewayroad3867
      @theonewayroad3867 5 місяців тому +1

      Pretty much how I understood it. It's not outright targeting Maki specifically but outright bombarding the radius of the Domain with so many Slashes that anything without CE still gets outright annihilated regardless...

    • @monschi1715
      @monschi1715 5 місяців тому

      @@theonewayroad3867 Most likely cleave targets everything with ce which should be the easiest to target and dismantle bombardes everything else with its slashes.

  • @othzy6149
    @othzy6149 5 місяців тому +3

    I mean his domain has 2 slashes one to attack the living which maki would avoid and one to destroy the environment that's why he was able to destroy like half a city in the anime. His domain is always open...

  • @lotsoflee
    @lotsoflee 5 місяців тому +3

    Bros so confused he started clutching his pearls

  • @marifogle8879
    @marifogle8879 5 місяців тому +37

    His vows confusing because the story isn't finished and we don't have all the details yet. Binding vows as a whole are generally confusing because what makes a "good" binding vow and a "bad" one. It's never explained how they were even discovered, so often we're forced to speculate.

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 5 місяців тому +4

      And we have yet to see the ramifications of breaking one which we probably are going to see it soon with Sukuna after making so many

    • @marifogle8879
      @marifogle8879 5 місяців тому +7

      @@SemekiIzuio I honestly don't think anyone but Sukuna knows how bad breaking binding vows are. We see him hint at it when he enters a binding vow with Yuji. When Kenjaku told Mahito that the consequences were bad, he was super vague as shit. The yapper himself didn't give a long winded answer, Gege was teasing us or he legit doesn't know. When we see the ramifications of breaking a binding vow, I legit think it'd be a historical thing.

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 5 місяців тому +3

      @@marifogle8879 I'm hoping the BVs he did will be part of Sukuna undoing, hes already acting out of desperation. Definitely going to play a role.

    • @benji5320
      @benji5320 5 місяців тому +11

      @@SemekiIzuiothere are very few ramifications for breaking a binding vow as long as it’s not with someone else. Kenjaku tells Mahito that breaking a binding vow with yourself usually just results in losing whatever you gained from it and it’s only when it is with someone else that the consequences become more dangerous.

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 5 місяців тому

      @@benji5320 one thing is telling the other is showing, we have yet to see one happening in action. We know Sukuna and Kenjaku did one with themselves as well and the whole explanation but we haven't been shown what happens when it is broken.

  • @florinpricop3362
    @florinpricop3362 5 місяців тому +3

    I mean, from my understanding, two of the official translations are saying its a Open Type Domain and the third one is saying its a Closed Type.
    So, I probably assume its a open type, since we don't actually see the dome or anything that could indicate that there's something acting like a barrier.

  • @taqcodeu186
    @taqcodeu186 Місяць тому

    As a huge JJK fan I completely agree with you, my love of this series doesn't blind my perception [at least as much as it could realisticly be]. Good video

  • @bhathi_22
    @bhathi_22 5 місяців тому +1

    Sukuna's domain in the new chapter 258 was a domain without a barrier just like shibuya ,that's why maki got hit by the domain

  • @vao519
    @vao519 5 місяців тому +1

    not part of the BindinngVow. Narrator was just stating difference between Closed and open domains, Sukunas Domain was always an open one, and transltion got confused

  • @ivarramirezpaulsen8212
    @ivarramirezpaulsen8212 5 місяців тому +2

    They can Target things with Cursed energy and no Cursed energy respectevely as demonstrated in his fight against mahoraga

  • @minutesgalore1
    @minutesgalore1 5 місяців тому +1

    The only thing I could think of for Maki being affected is because it's a barrier less domain. In shibuya he used slash for everything with cursed energy and dismantle for everything without. Most likely dismantle gets made to slash literally every space of the domain and slash specifically targets cursed energy. Even though Maki has no ce she'd probably get hit by the just dismantle everything in the domain part of his domain

  • @Mr_Gurf
    @Mr_Gurf 5 місяців тому +1

    This would make a lot of sense cause sukuna would have that information controlling megumi’s body

  • @ElbowStrikesSn
    @ElbowStrikesSn 5 місяців тому +1

    An analogy that I came up with in what I understood of Sukuna new domain.
    Domains with barrier in general are like a BALL ⚽️, they can't trap things (in this case, the outside world ) inside them. If you put a ball on a table with multiple objects, the ball can't trap the objects.
    However, Sukuna new domain with barrier is like a BOWL🥣 ( that's been turned upside down on a table with multiple objects) It can trap the objects inside ( in this case the outside world). That's why the buildings ( Everything) were being destroyed.
    I understand why the domain can affect Maki, I understand why the others are trapped in it because of the barrier but I don't understand why Maki has to be trapped in it.
    Even with the barrier, Maki should be able to pass through it.

    • @monschi1715
      @monschi1715 5 місяців тому

      was really said the others are trapped in it? Bc nobody except gojo and arguably hakari would be able to leave it without getting sliced to death before escaping and therefore everybody tries to hold out.

  • @Itsmrkevin2u
    @Itsmrkevin2u 5 місяців тому +1

    It seems kinda like they explained the way we know malevolent shrine works - but targeting both living and non living things (with some extra caveats)
    And as for what exactly Sukuna is giving up? Who tf knows, and I think that’s the beauty of binding vows. For all we know it could be something dumb like “if my health reaches x%, I can use a domain again”

  • @flynny730000
    @flynny730000 3 місяці тому

    I'm pretty sure that the reason Maki was targeted because in the malevolent shrine it's cleave(cursed energy people) and dismantle(no cursed energy objects) targeting everything. Like the buildings in the Shibuya incident.

  • @S1l_v2r
    @S1l_v2r 5 місяців тому +1

    Im confused about your confusion. It was explained very early on that his domain expention does not include a barrior (an open domain), meaning it effects everything in the erea insread of an artificial space. It is also explained that because of it his techniques can effect everything inside the domain, saucers, non saurceres and inanimate objects. It is also explained that during the domain expention he uses dismemtal on saurcerers and cleave on non saurcerers (or the opposite I'm not sure). Then ehy the hell are you getting confused now?

  • @AKA-oi9ng
    @AKA-oi9ng 4 місяці тому

    king of plot armor

  • @kingputzear6986
    @kingputzear6986 5 місяців тому

    correction… this domain was barrier-less like the one he did in shibuya

  • @artsandgoodies4653
    @artsandgoodies4653 5 місяців тому

    I think there should be a better indicator for when sukuna is using a binding vow. Not like a full explanation on the spot but something a gesture or one word to let us know the exact time he made the binding vow. It would feel less like asspulls if we could tell when he did it even if we don’t exactly know what it was till later

  • @gentlepeeps3351
    @gentlepeeps3351 5 місяців тому

    It’s barrierless no binding vow envolved translation mistakes are just rampant atm this was stated by lightning on twitter

  • @MrSwade009
    @MrSwade009 5 місяців тому

    Sukuna is going to break a binding vow

  • @Ctgfsuper
    @Ctgfsuper 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the clarification

  • @Alex_the_goat-1
    @Alex_the_goat-1 5 місяців тому +2

    In fact the 8th binding vow is likely a new one because when he used fuga against jogo he didn’t use his domain. He probably made it during his fight with gojo. Maybe early on he sacrificed fuga since I noticed he did not use fuga when fighting with gojo or maybe it was a binding vow made against megumi’s body since after taking over megumi he hadn’t use fuga.

    • @thefarmer6541
      @thefarmer6541 4 місяці тому

      It was the aoe that he sacrificed, the arrow didn't explode like it did in his domain, he removed the aoe so it was enhanced in his domain expansion, the area was also perfect to create a vacuum explosion mixed in with how unlikely it is for someone to not survive his domain made the blast far stronger.
      It was also stated that he couldn't use it due to him reconfiguring the barrier alot, which is probably why he thought he was gonna kill gojo with his domain expansion and got so excited when gojo lost his

  • @imnotverycalm4112
    @imnotverycalm4112 3 місяці тому

    "I'll get Daddyraga back at the cost of being not straight." -Sukuna

  • @blazingshadow2669
    @blazingshadow2669 5 місяців тому

    to me one of his binding vows is to make an expanding tornado of slashes instead of slashes everywhere all the time. notice he still has jujutsu techniques and hasn't burned out yet

  • @JoelBrown-h1j
    @JoelBrown-h1j 5 місяців тому +1

    King of vows

  • @thefarmer6541
    @thefarmer6541 4 місяці тому

    What i was Thinking that it having a barrier was just a mistranslation as we basically see zero barrier, because that section was so poorly translated

  • @teloprmepeterson1812
    @teloprmepeterson1812 4 місяці тому

    oh the main reason would be in explained during his 2nd melovlant shrine dismantle for inanimate objects and cleave for things with cursed energy

  • @xavierpaige1132
    @xavierpaige1132 5 місяців тому

    To be fair my fiancee is 1/2 Japanese, lived there for 6 years, is fluent, and only speaks in Japanese to her mother. She just learned what the correct translation for one of her favorite movies. She's had it wrong for 15+ years. Japanese is hard

  • @justsomeotherguywithamusta6810
    @justsomeotherguywithamusta6810 5 місяців тому

    It doesn't have a barrier, it was a mistranslation. First translation : Barrier domain. 2nd translation: barrierless domain + a normal barrier on the outside of it to trap maki. 3 translation: it's just the normal sukuna barrierless domain, the explanation that maki can escape barrier domains was mistranslated as sukuna using barrier domain, which makes sense he already has her trapped as his domain can hit inanimate objects so no need to add anything on it

  • @Far-iah
    @Far-iah 5 місяців тому

    I'm just built to be a Cheat code

  • @159tony
    @159tony 2 місяці тому

    Answer: people didn't pay enough attention before and now mistranslation is throwing them for a loop.

  • @Garvant_
    @Garvant_ 5 місяців тому

    I feel like binding vows have been a sort of button that characters can push to get out of difficult situations that Gege has become WAY too reliant on. Sukunas done lile a dozen of em but even hakari has done it when one of his arms was destroyed and theres a few others and i feel like they never really give anything up its just stuff like "oh my technique is 10% less powerful now but now i can do this crazy thing instead" like theres no weight behind em conpared to like the two biggest examples in hxh kurapika giving up his lifespan everytime he activates his eyes and Gons enormous deal. They just lack weight in jjk and are more of a flexible convenient multi-tool

    • @monschi1715
      @monschi1715 5 місяців тому

      Yeah thats right so far nobody had a big downside when making a binding vow nor somebody even broke it.

  • @hep8589
    @hep8589 5 місяців тому

    Why wouldn’t he be able to include Maki? His domain’s sure-hit has never been tied to a barrier, his barrierless domain in Shibuya targeted both people and objects

    • @itsjustvin7630
      @itsjustvin7630 5 місяців тому

      That's cuz the domain he unleashed in shibuya is bringing the domain surehit to the real world. If it was in an enclosed barrier then it would target CE only targets cuz the barrier would push out any objects like buildings.

  • @GreyLeo
    @GreyLeo 5 місяців тому

    All I know is this Sukuna's spear when he gets it (might not tho) better have some RCT properties to restore Sukuna's output that way Yuji and Sukuna can truly see who will surpass who's

  • @maniax951
    @maniax951 5 місяців тому +1

    So I think there is a miss-understanding you're having with Maki in particular. Yes, Maki should be immune to domains because of her heavenly restriction and no curse energy, we all understand that. But Sakuna's is actually kind of a nerf for her when you think about it, dissmantle attacks things with CE and Cleave attacks things without CE. There is theoretically nothing that should be able to escape, even Maki. As for the binding vows to actually allow him to open the domain, who knows Gege will probably tell us right before his death knowing him. please let me know if there is something im forgetting that should allow her to bypass anyways

  • @tythepoet30
    @tythepoet30 5 місяців тому

    Great minds think alike

  • @JTtheMid
    @JTtheMid 5 місяців тому

    Considering malevolent shrine shredded a crater into Shibuya, if Maki happens to be within range, why tf WOULDN'T it get her? Only thing Heavenly Restriction did for Maki in regards to MS is make her unable to he specifically targeted, she'll still be hit by an AOE attack.

  • @brazilianambassadordale8223
    @brazilianambassadordale8223 4 місяці тому

    Yeah this is what I was thinking.

  • @mudkipfan1266
    @mudkipfan1266 5 місяців тому

    Malevolent Shrine hits maki no matter what just no sure hit since it shoots off dismantles to cut stuff with cursed energy and cleaves to cut stuff without cursed energy that’s why after he used it in shibuya even buildings were destroyed even though they are inanimate objects

  • @controlflix
    @controlflix 4 місяці тому

    At this point, it requires its own law degree to be fundamentally understood. Or you can just roll with asspull blows that Gege keeps dishing out and pray it ends soon.

    • @thefarmer6541
      @thefarmer6541 4 місяці тому +1

      Tbf John werry makes such a shit translation it might make sense if the chapter was translated correctly

    • @controlflix
      @controlflix 4 місяці тому

      ​@@thefarmer6541 I also think that the highly technical power system has now turned into a bane since the battles are now continuous. 50+ chapters of everyone piling on Sukuna with their techniques that all require scientific explanations, religious degrees or both. Then Sukuna answers with his own binding vow asspull requiring the same treatment.
      JJK was peak when the battles were more controlled because of this very fact. There was also room to breathe back then in between villain arcs.

  • @Deciverse
    @Deciverse 5 місяців тому

    Not sure I really get this. Dismantle (the no cursed energy inaminate object attacking counterpart of sukunas slashing technique) has always been in Sukunas domain, and thus would be able to target Maki. He doesn’t need a binding vow for it

  • @lourdedevilson7739
    @lourdedevilson7739 5 місяців тому

    I give up trying to understand it. This the canon now. Love you no op

  • @yaboiplank6764
    @yaboiplank6764 5 місяців тому

    Yea but isn’t there still an escape route since it’s incomplete?
    Also, Megumi needed his domain to be contained within a building that blocked it off
    Sukunas domain is not contained by anything
    If we consider the landscape a table, the megumis domain is inside a topper box while Sukunas domain is on the table itself which should be impossible by what megumi showed us since it would be like your domain is “leaking” out of the parameters
    Furthermore, Sukunas domain functions the exact same as before
    And his domain is breaking not as a result of binding vow but because he can’t physically keep it up at this moment
    So what did Sukuna use the binding vow for?
    And it’s definitely open barrier cuz maki wouldn’t be caught in it otherwise

  • @BoBnfishy
    @BoBnfishy 4 місяці тому

    "no"

  • @Watermeloncat1710
    @Watermeloncat1710 3 місяці тому

    I thought maki could always be hit?I thought since she has 0 cursed energy she’s counted as an inanimate object and is attacked

  • @Lacobi-o6n
    @Lacobi-o6n 3 місяці тому

    Whats so confusing? Dismantle hits everything CE or no, mfs cant escape
    His vows are simple af, "extremely small range for an amp in destructive power"
    No different to Gojos extremely small range for an amp is shell defence

  • @tkjohnson1988
    @tkjohnson1988 5 місяців тому

    I’m still confused

  • @CallMeSaltyScorpion
    @CallMeSaltyScorpion 5 місяців тому

    Sukuna’s ideology of throw everything away for strength, and considering losing a fight to be equal to death, I understand thematically why he’s the Binding Vow Merchant.
    But bro. Come on. Look at his DE. I understand but just look at that shit😐

  • @Recon-xw5jd
    @Recon-xw5jd 5 місяців тому

    Man i love the king of ass pulls... happy to see how this will go but im worried its going to end in a anti climatic way

  • @Thrillr
    @Thrillr 5 місяців тому

    So he made like a dome?!

  • @themorningstar8450
    @themorningstar8450 5 місяців тому

    What "outer shell" is bro talking about?

  • @tacxxz6827
    @tacxxz6827 3 місяці тому

    Sukuna can hurt maki in his domain becausa he use cleave and dismantle. Unlike other surehit effects, sukuna can target non CE objets.

  • @stormcutter59
    @stormcutter59 5 місяців тому

    So you don't know. Typical for Gege these days

  • @christophercomeaux8005
    @christophercomeaux8005 5 місяців тому

    all my homies hate john werry

  • @Concerned_Custodian
    @Concerned_Custodian 5 місяців тому

    Hairline running away

  • @lockskelington314
    @lockskelington314 5 місяців тому +1

    Because Gege can’t let his previous snow flake loose.

  • @florpbosh3079
    @florpbosh3079 5 місяців тому

    Haircut🙏😊

  • @Far-iah
    @Far-iah 5 місяців тому

    I have the power
    Liked 999-1k

  • @yaboiplank6764
    @yaboiplank6764 5 місяців тому +3

    Why bro bashing John Werry 😭

    • @thesnoms1492
      @thesnoms1492 5 місяців тому +1

      He's bad at his job lol. Unofficial translators who do it for free give out translations better than him. Coupled with the fact that he's been deliberately awful at translating multiple manga. I actually don't know if he's being deliberate but with his track record it DOES seem so. It's either that or he's just ignorant and incompetent and Viz doesn't care

    • @justsomelazybrit2707
      @justsomelazybrit2707 5 місяців тому

      Because he screws up every single chapter and doesn't deserve to keep his job, it's that simple.

  • @rennenb
    @rennenb 5 місяців тому

    I saw the jumbo on screen and was like I’m waiting for our UA-cam community to cover this chapter I could tell the translation was rough

  • @jeffyboyreloaded
    @jeffyboyreloaded 5 місяців тому

    The translations are so absolutely garbage it's a war crime

  • @Ihatecheetodust
    @Ihatecheetodust 5 місяців тому

    Bro nose can smell colors 💀

  • @abraxanAc0lyte
    @abraxanAc0lyte 3 місяці тому

    J*hn W*rry