I'm 77 and have hunted with a 270 since I was 16. I've harvested elk, mule and white tail deer, peccories and other Az big game. Very seldom had to hit an animal more than once to drop it. Shot at distances of up to 400 yards with great success. Love the 270!!!
Hello everyone! I just love this .270 Winchester debate here. Here's my two cents worth. Over a 60 year period of time, since age nine, I've used the .270 Win. A Yukon hunt gave me a moose , grizzly, and a caribou. The grizzly and moose went down with one 130 gr Nosler partition. The caribou needed two shots as the first was not placed well. Here in the good ol' U.S. of A in Tennessee the 130 flat base Hornady spitzer at 3100 fps killed over 80 whitetails. The rifle, a Win. 70 model a post 64 model, was borrowed by buddies who didn't have a rifle and wanted to hunt. Most of those deer, about 70, were killed by buddies. All of us noticed the deer just went down or 25 yards at the most. In Africa, I used a 140 grain Barnes TSX at 3150 fps...the African .270 has a 26" barrel and gives approximately 7mm Rem Mag velocities. The animals crumpled with good shot placement. Poor shot placement by other hunters yielded poor killing power with some very large calibers...usually .300 mags up to .416 caliber. My .270 trumped the the big bores with good bullet placement. Many animals ran for very long distances and we were in for a very long tracking due to poorly placed large caliber bullets. I shot 13 animals on two hunts and all were one shot kills EXCEPT a big Water Buk. He was tracked for about 1/4 mile and a second shot to the base of the skull finished him. I used 9,3 x 62 mm Mauser to take my cape buffalo with a 286 gr Barnes TSX. One shot through the top of the heart and a frantic run for forty five of my long paces. He just went down in mid stride and never moved one time. Stone cold dead. On my hunts, on several occasions, I have experienced proper bullet placement and poor bullet placement. The caliber doesn't matter if you poorly place the bullet. Bullet placement is most likely 90% of killing power as described by the late Finn AAgaard, one of our most experienced and knowledgeable gun writers. Foot pounds and other variables are included in the remaining 10% of killing power He was a Kenyan and a professional African hunter. I agree with Finn. All of this stuff about large calibers being safer and deadlier with marginal hits is nonsense. You Either hit it in the right place or you don't. I witnessed this and screwed up on my first shot on the water buk(correct spelling) and caribou that left me with with some very valuable memories from two hunts in my lifetime. Let's hit the nail on the head here. Finn Aagaard told us he had seen more animals killed with just one shot in Africa by .270 Winchester rifles than any other caliber. The reason? Low ACCEPTABLE RECOIL which enabled the hunter to precisely place the shot. Plus a FAST, FLAT TRAJECTORY with great energy and penetration. Finn was always amazed by the 130 .270's ability to quickly kill animals up to and including HUGE ELAND weighing up to 2,500 pounds. That's 1,000 lbs. heaver than a 1,500 lb. Yukon Moose that I shot. Jack O'Connor often told stories of Bob Lee, a New Yorker that had shot several lions(one shot each) with a 150 gr. Nosler Partitions. Our darling .270 Win is very capable. Just ask all of the huge Alaska coastal brown bears and their smaller interior grizzly bears killed by .270 Wins. I love my memories of the .270 and witnessing just how wicked and efficient it can be in the field. Glenn
Glenn, truer words of wisdom than I've ever seen. My first rifle and it's still my all time favorite is my .270 Mauser action. So many great qualities in this cartridge. Every hunter and especially new shooters, looking to get into the hunting sport, should read your above paragraphs. A lot of practical knowledge, not just about the .270, but in taking game in general. I for one appreciate what you have penned here. Thank you.
These awesome hunting descriptions with the 270 is pure awesomeness and I love it cuz it’s first hand experience with the round and to be honest I don’t think I’ve ever read such detailed information about other rounds, honest, and direct. Tomorrow I’m going to probably buy myself a 270 at a gun show either a Winchester model 70 or a Remington 700. Thanks for the time
I have had my grandfathers 270 for many years and have not shot it once. After his passing, it was a keepsake that lived on the wall. Seeing this vid reminded me of his love for that gun. I think I have decided to do some range work and get some loads together to maybe go knock down a buck for grandpa.
Here in southern Ontario Canada the .270win is king due to caliber restrictions during different hunting seasons. I once owned a savage 111 in .270win and it shot lights out right out of the box. I sold it like an idiot to further other firearms interests. But just recently I purchased a tikka t3x lite stainless in .270win and it shoots even better and I’m so glad I bought it! I have a very well rounded hunting firearms collection. But if I could only keep 3 of them it would be my 300win mag, .270win and 12gauge pump action. Just my 2 cents. Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦🤘
When you get to the hunting field, the 270 just do the job. That is probably the reason why people tends to forget about it. Hunters like to fidle with guns, and the 270 don't ask for a lot of fidling 👍🏻
My father used to ask me for my 270 every time we hunted mule deer. He loved my Thompson Center 270. He said that rifle is a good all around hunting gun. I couldn’t agree more. I’m going to miss hunting with him and my older brother. We lost both of them to Covid-19.
My .270 was born the same year I was. Mouser action made in Belgium in 1949 on a JC Higgins model 50 put together by Mossberg. I bought it used when I was 16 thanks to Jack O'Connor love. It's been checkered and a padded rubber shoulder pad replaced the metal plate that used to bruise my young shoulder. It kicks as hard as my .300 Win Mag because of it's light weight. It outshoots my Browning X Bolt .270 and is a rare .65 MOA rifle in my collection of good shooting rifles. It is retired with 20 boxes of my handloads to be handed down to the next generation so it can be enjoyed some more.
Regarding long range and the 270 Win. I've shot my Remington Sendero 270 Win to 1000 yards with Sierra MatchKing 135 grain loads. After a shooting session on steel from 200 to 1000 yards a buddy of mine who is in the bullet making business and was spotting me said he wouldn't want me shooting at him at 1000 yards. I have three 270 rifles in my safe. Love them all.
270 awesome and timeless. Great to still hear people talk of O’Connor. In the 70s I waited patiently every month to read what he may have to say In Petersens Hunting. His stories of sheep hunting were fantastic
Been a long time user. Bought my first Sako in .270 in 1963 as a professional deer culler in New Zealand. Today, much older I still use a .270. The funny thing is, the target species never know the difference between that and one of these fancy new cartridges....
Giday Sam, was waiting for someone to make a great comment. A good keen man should know the truth. Been using. 270 for 45 years, never felt the need to change a winning formula. Still filling the freezer and that's all that matters. Kia Ora mate.
Love my Sako’s 🙌 Out of hundreds of rifles bought over 60+ years of collecting I only hunt with Sako’s and that even over the customs I have built which is many!
@@danietkissenle it takes a lot of work to shoot them but I built a 270 for the 170 grain Berger eol it’s shoots 3140 FPS with a g1 of .706 with h1000. hoping to bring it up to 3300 with some new powder I acquired but I’ll slow it back down to just over 3000 for throat life .
Just watched this episode on .270. Nice conversation. I have both. 270win and 6.5 creedmoor. My 270 is a Browning blr with a vortex 4-16x42 diamondback scope. Shot deer with both .270 and 6.5. I have to say that with exception of stiff trigger I like the .270 much more. Far more comfortable for me. I get .5" groups all day long with this gun at 100yd and 1" @ 200yd using hornady 130gn sst. Just wish the sst held together a little better. Great show guys, keep it up.
The 270:has been around this long because it is a great cartridge, does extremely well on all deer, caribou, mountain goat, Sheep etc. I have been using this cartridge for over 45 years took a lot of game with it. I too followed and enjoyed Jack O. I also use the old yet reliable model 94 30-30 great brush gun took a number of White tails with this light weight gun. Thank all of you guys for reducing a great truthful video. Keep up the great work. I like the venerable 30-06 also,
I have shot .270 for almost 30 years, will til the day I pass. Currently shoot ballistic silvertip. Hasn't failed yet. 1 shot and the harvest is down. Great video guys, GOD Bless you all.
Hornady's 270 SST's 140gr have a muzzle velocity at about 3090ft/sec. It is great ammo for hunting deer, moose and elk under 400 yards which I use exclusively in my Tikka stainless lite with muzzle break and a fixed power Schmidt and Bender 6x42 with a rock solid reticle.
270, if it was good enough for Jack O'Conner, it's good enough for me...been shooting one for most of my hunting career and have no complaints..it ALWAYS does the job...my pre '64 model 70 and my Rem. 700 will always be in my gun safe!!
10 minutes? I could talk for 10 months about the 270! Yeah I’m a fan boy! Best damn deer rifle I have ever owned. I have an old Winchester model 70, iron sights and this thing has taken oh my gosh between 40 and 50 deer in my lifetime. I purchased it used in 1975 and no telling how many deer it had taken already. My grandson will inherit this rifle and I hope he never gets rid of it because if it could talk, it would be welcome at any campfire
@@tim1942 agree. Do 99% of hunting with 270 myself. I do think the 6.5 has some science going it’s way that lets it punch above weight class. Mainly in sec. density.
@@chasehunt6497 do a google search on 6.5 vs 270 and just the headings ,sexy creedmoor and boring old 270 but no one talks of energy delivered just bc when most of them could hit a 400 yd target to save there life but just my opinion
Kudos 👍👍😎!!! It's about time the merits of the World Famous .270 Win are lauded!!!! My two "GO TO" rifles are .270Win and .30-06 Sprfld. That old .270 will do the job as long as I do my job. Not Old, just well seasoned and very capable.
I have been shooting 270 for 20+ years and never let me down. I only hunt whitetails. Handload 150gr bullets at 2800 .5" group at 100yds works for me. I have taken plenty of deer with that combo
Got my Red pad, tang safety M77R 270W in 1974. Others have come and gone since but it’s still here and ready to go! It works a lot better than I do now. 😊
No not really they are very similar but 6.5 is a little better for long range due to the availability of higher BC bullets and the inherent long sleek shape of the 6.5mm bullets that give it that high BC hence why the military is switching from 308 and 300 win mag to 6.5 creedmoor in some of their precision rifle applications ....you can hate the 6.5 all you want but 99% of F class and competition shooters shoot 6mm and 6.5 for a reason you wont see them shooting 270 and no one can deny how good they are at what they were intended to do unless they have no experience in the matter
Jack O'Connor was fascinated with the idea of necking down the 30-06 to the 270. He convinced gun maker, Al Biesen(in Spokane WA) to produce 4 proto-types. O'Connor took these to Wyo for field testing. After finishing, he left one of the rifles with my father. I still have that 270.
The 270 is a better rifle than most current rifles. I’ve tried them all and I’ll keep my 270. I can hunt elk with my 270 but a 6.5 won’t work in a 400 yard shot.
Jack was famous for using not just the .270, but the 7mm Mauser, the .30-06 and the 416 Rigby. Read a few of his books! Always with Elk, Moose, large mean Bears 🐻 bullet placement is KEY ! If you feel you can't put that animal down with one shot? DON'T SHOOT ! I offer this just as my Grandfather taught me. And I've never lost a single head of game!
When they talk of O’Connor being a gun writer, they should say he was a hunter/rifleman first, then a gun writer. The .270 got his love because he understood that it was a great caliber; especially in a pre-1964 Winchester model 70!
I actually listened to this while driving to work today, but had to watch and listen once more. The .270 Win is my long time cartridge, the only centerfire rifle that I have owned for 20 years (Dad bought me this as my first rifle when I was 15) until I got a .300 WSM in 2019. Both my youngest brother and I love our .270 Wins (Savage M110 for me and Winchester M70 Shadow Warrior for him). We both shoot 130 grain projectiles out of our rifles (Sierra Game Kings and Nosler Ballistic Tips) at around 2950 fps. My brother cooked up a load with the Hornady 140 grain SSTs and RL26 that went 3100 fps, no pressure signs and the first three shots with that load was under an inch. The .270 has been around so long and it is rather easy to reload for in most cases, every cartridge can be picky at times. My bro struggled with the 7mm Rem Mag and gave up on it. I feel the term modernized or more modern cartridge get tossed around a lot, just like certain terms that every automotive journalist has their favorite terms to use when describing the feel or look of a vehicle, more modern design is one of them. I feel that if rifle manufacturers would put a 1:8 twist in their .270 Wins and WSMs they would rise in even more popularity, instead of just the standard 1:10 twist so that it can shoot the 150-170 grain weight class higher BC type bullets better. I actually saw that the Ruger American and couple others have the 22-250 in a 1:10 twist instead of the traditional 1:14 maybe 1:12, so the .270 could have it too. I know that the 27 Nosler that recently came out along with the 165 grain Nosler Accubond is a 1:8 to spin that longer bullet. I like all three hosts' choices for rifles, part of me would want to go the Jim route (since I already have a longtime .270) and build one (sadly don't have the financial means too, especially full custom not just a barrel swap) with a 1:8 twist and see where I can take the Ole Venerable .270 Win. My vote for "America's Cartridge". Thank you three for getting around to sharing my favorite cartridge of all time.
It has taken many years and many successful hunts for me to realize how well the 270 winchester works for my hunting purposes. Just bought a Bergara B14 ridge in 270. Interesting conversation at the end of the pod cast - It does seem a little strange to buy a modern hunting rifle chambered for a 100 year old cartridge.
A favorite of my father, my brothers and myself since 1966. Loading our own cartridges, winning contests, 100s of whitetail, dozens of mule deer, and a few elk - a wonderful history and fond memories. (.243, .270, 7mm RM ‐ my long standing arsenal; most often used - the .270 - for plenty of reasons).
i recently met a deputy that uses the 270 for his work gun - the passion he had when talking about the round and the performance was just so interesting - the round might have won over a new fan
Love my .270, my grandpa and uncle have used it since their first hunting days as have I. I explore more then they did but when I’m going hunting I almost always grab my .270 over everything else.
Counseling and consultation has not cured me of the need for faster, larger diameter, heavier bullets. But, 3 years ago I built a 270 on a Ruger 77R action that has now become my primary hunting rifle for everything below bear. With a 130 grain Game King never a failed shot and all one shot kills. I'm sold on the cartridge.
Actually just got my first hunting rifle the other day off of Gunbroker. Got a 1984 Winchester Model 70 XTR in 270 for $685. Should be here next week. I'm pretty excited.
@@rikertvonfulton16 No actually. I can't get it sighted in. So far I've put 60 rounds through it and it just seems to be all over the place. 20 rounds of Winchester Super X 130 grain, and 40 rounds of the 150 grain.
Used the 270 for about 20 years now. Harvested alot of whitetail and muledeer with it, and even a couple of coyotes! 58 grains of Hodgdon 4831sc with a Nosler 140 grain Accubond, does the job!
I just bought a Winchester XPR in .270 Win, and topped it with a Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x44, and even with the cheap Winchester silver box ammo, it’ll ring steel at 400 yrds shot after shot for a joke. It’s all I use for white tail deer, but if I ever get drawn for an Eastern moose tag, I’ll go with some Nosler AccuBond big game cartridges and I’ll be ready for larger game, just like that!
Got my first rifle when I was 12, a Remington 700 chambered in .270 Winchester. Since then, I’ve taken many elk, deer, and antelope in all sorts of sizes and ranges with it without a problem. I run 150 grain handloads and I’ve never been disappointed with the results, even big bull elk
My primary hunting rifle since 1979 has been a Ruger M77 in 270 with a 4x Leopold, I've taken loads of Mulies and Whitetails and a few Elk. All with 130 gr Speer Boatails 98% one shot.
Love my 270! One shot per deer for over 40 years! A custom reload of the 6.8 110gr Accubond with a MV of 3350 will give you a 400 yard gun, that doesn't require a range finder or holding off the body!
Been shooting my 270 for 40 years all 1 shot kills never once having a White tail run, dropped where I shot them. 130 grain nosler partition. Big fan of Jack O'Connor
@OP, little chance you read this 3 years later but I just discovered your UA-cam channel awhile back and I’m catching up. Which is fun because I can binge on these bite sized discussions for days. Wonderful chats, extremely informative. There is a lot of information to unpack in these 15-20 minute videos. Excellent format, perfect moderation. The discussions are so reasonable, which is something I haven’t seen in a long time when it comes to discussing ammo or platforms. I cannot stress emphasize that point enough Thanks to the Vortex team, I’m weak on names but your crew is solid, everyone at the table is bringing something of value which rounds out the discussion. Multiple points of view and experience with respectful dialogue. Nobody talks over anyone else and disagreements are bolstered with context. These videos are a lot of fun and the next scope I buy I’ll be stroking for a Vortex, as spending is my only way of showing appreciation. I’m just getting into scopes (mid-40s and my eyes just went soft) but I’m fairly confident Vortex will have something in 4 or 6 power fixed and low parallax issues. And water tight, naturally.
I just got a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight with a gorgeous wood stock in .270 Win. caliber. A caliber I've been shooting since the early seventies. It does an excellent job in capable hands. I love to take it to the shooting range and practice, practice, practice. Very moderate recoil with 130 gr. bullets.
I absolutely love my Christiansen Arms Traverse in .270 Winchester. I’m currently shooting Federal Custom shop .270 win using the ELDX.145 hornady. I’m getting .38 MOA at 200 yards easily and frequently.... match accuracy with a hunting bullet. This rifle has put down more game than all my rifles combined. I’m glad I took my friends advice.
Classic through and through born and bred hunter of a cartridge. The thing lives for rocking bucks and bulls flat out. Perfect bled of flat trajectory with impressive sectional density and it punches deep. Those are some long projectiles from 1925.
The .270 Winchester is more viable than ever! Keep in mind that the rise of the .270 Winchester came back a long time ago when there were only a few powders and bullets available. How much better now is the .270 Winchester with new powders and bullets? The same could be said for the 30/06 also.... Our old staple cartridges are better than ever..... and yes, Jack O'Connor did write and publicize the .270 Winchester, however, what made the .270 Winchester popular is how it performed on game. If it wasn't a performer on game, Jack would have never written about it!
Packed my 270 on many a British Columbia sheep, goat hunts, took Moose, Elk, Bear on most trips on the way out, a few times had to leave them for another day, pack animals already loaded . But always packed a few cartridges for whatever we might encounter, no need for a safe full of rifles. 270 got you covered.
The big advantage the 270 has of many short action “modern cartridges” is that is stays in the velocity range to expand reliably much further down range (many 308 loads are below 2000fps before 300 yards). The Achilles heal of the 270 is the fast velocity at close ranges could cause bullet fragmentation which destroyed meat and sometimes didn’t penetrate deep enough. With a high quality bonded/partition/monolithic bullet that issue is resolved and the 270 will expand rapidly and penetrate deeply enough for clean elk/moose harvests.
I love my Remington 700 270. My first ever firearm. I threw a vortex 1-9 on there and I can smoke the deer up here in the blueridge mountains of NC easily. Out of all the rifles I have I’m still rocking my 60’s marlin 30-30 iron sights in the deep, thick hollers around here and my 270 for more distance. My buddy dropped a bull elk at 475 yrds in New Mexico with his 270 and dropped it on the spot.
I have a Ruger American in 270 win with a vortex diamondback 3-9 BDC reticle. It’s an excellent hunting setup and pretty budget friendly. Scope reticle is good to 450 yds which is perfect for the 270 ability to take an Elk.
@Rom vin i get sick listening about how great the creedmoor is. ive heard people say its a 500 yard elk cartridge. give me a break. 200 yard white tale cartridge is more like it. im sure its good on coyotes and varmints and whatnot.
@Rom vin I am a swede, i apologize my bad english. 6,5 x55 is a common cartridge in sweden for moose but and it is a big but the swedish moose is quite small and the range is often short. I think 75 procent is inside the 100 yards mark. Now days 308 win 30-06 and 9,3x62 is moore used for moose and wild boar. But i think it is a good deer cartridge.
My dads a bit of a model 70 nut. 30-06, 270, 270wsm, 300 win mag, 243, 308. He doesn’t own another rifle other than a model 70. The one he always hunted with was his 30-06 he bought when he was in the army 50 some years ago
My most accurate rifle is a sporterized Mauser ‘98 chambered in 270 Winchester. I think it was made in the early 1960s based on the Jaeger sliding dovetail detachable scope mount and the Lyman Alaskan 2x scope with a German post reticle. I’m so glad you asked the question “which rifle available today would you buy chambered in 270?” A pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 would be perfect, but I’m tempted to swim against the tide and get a very “modern” rifle just because.
There is something about the 270WIN that makes me feel like it’s just got to be chambered in a rifle with a nice walnut stock. I recently got mine in a Browning X-bolt hunter and it’s fantastic! It would also be very nice in a new Winchester M70 featherweight!
When I first started whitetail deer hunting, I didn't know much about the different rounds. A buddy talked me into a good used Browning BAR in .270. I never regretted the choice, but I also never needed that 2nd quick shot that has been at my disposal (though maybe my time in the Marines made me feel more comfortable about having a semiautomatic).
The .270 has been around since 1925. Jack O'Connor used it on all sizes of game and proved its one of the all time best calibers...putting game down is more about shot placement than rifle caliber..I've never had an animal get away when using my pre-64 Mod 70, with 130 gr bullets
Not as well traveled as you folks are, nor the wallet some folks have, I just needed a rifle with ammo I could find most anywhere. Having read some of Jack Oconner wisdom and listened to everyone tout the 243 as “flat shooting”, I went to the ballistic sheets and found that the 100 gr 243 traveled an almost parallel path as the 130 gr 270. I needed no more prompting. I’ve never been disappointed. On the bench or in the field, it just works. The old adage about if it ain’t broke don’t fix it applies here.
Here’s the thing with a 270win when it came out it came out with a 26 inch pipe/ barrel for some who don’t know what the pipe is figure speech but anyways if you take a regular 270win 22in barrel your not getting true 270 Winchester performance You’re basically getting 7 mm 08 performance so what I’m saying is if you do not handload for the 270win just get a 7mm08 Just because with a 22 inch barrel or 24 inch barrel you’re getting basically the same performance as a factory 270win Shooting factory ammo now with that said if you really want a 270 Winchester And want true performance get a 24 inch barrel and hand load 130gr Nosler Partitions or Nosler AB at 3150 to 3200 FPS Now you’re talking Jack O’Connor true to 270 performance
Shot my second pa buck ever this year, nice 8 point. I used Ruger 77 mk 11 stainless, equipped with stainless 3-9 leupold scope. Shooting the nosler 130 grain accubond trophy amo. Amazing set up cloverleaf groups at 150 off a bench. By far my favorite hun. Switched from a 30-30 and rem 700 30.06 both served well but for me the 270 is the perfect gun for my needs. Great podcast/ video. Thanks for sharing guys. Long live the icon jack O’Connor
If you have a proper .270 Winchester with a 24" barrel, you can just about hit 3000 FPS with 150 grain bullets in handloads. 130 grain bullets can easily hit 3100 FPS. With numbers like that your "need" for a 7mm magnum is very much reduced. Down in the woods with ranges averaging well under 200 yards, standard 150 grain loadings loafing along at about 2800-2850 FPS are plenty of sauce for deer, bear, elk, and moose. In the more open places where 400 yards is possible, the various 140 grain and traditional 130 grain can run fast and flat and take 400 pound animals no sweat. Having a .270 is or can be a "regular" rifle and a virtual light magnum rolled into one.
My first deer rifle was a 270 and I absolutely loved it. Gave you alittle extra thump over the 243, while sacrificing the flat shooting. I loved the round, and it will always have a place in my safe, but I can't change away from my 300 win mag. WOULD LOVE A 300 WIN MAG talk. Much love from Virginia!
My favorite Jack O'Connor quote
A well placed 130 grain 270 bullet will end most ballistic arguments
With the 30-06 Springfield or 270 Winchester you just can’t go wrong, that’s just a fact 👍😁
I'm 77 and have hunted with a 270 since I was 16. I've harvested elk, mule and white tail deer, peccories and other Az big game. Very seldom had to hit an animal more than once to drop it. Shot at distances of up to 400 yards with great success. Love the 270!!!
The 270 winchester is the all time greatest caliber ever invented . Calibers come and go , the 270 win still knocking them animals down.
Except it's a cartridge, not a caliber. .277 is the caliber. .30 is a caliber. .244 is a caliber. .270 Winchester is a cartridge.
@@anthonykaiser974ok smart ass. The .277 caliber is hands down the greatest caliber ever created.
Cough 30-06, cough
Hello everyone! I just love this .270 Winchester debate here. Here's my two cents worth. Over a 60 year period of time, since age nine, I've used the .270 Win. A Yukon hunt gave me a moose , grizzly, and a caribou. The grizzly and moose went down with one 130 gr Nosler partition. The caribou needed two shots as the first was not placed well. Here in the good ol' U.S. of A in Tennessee the 130 flat base Hornady spitzer at 3100 fps killed over 80 whitetails. The rifle, a Win. 70 model a post 64 model, was borrowed by buddies who didn't have a rifle and wanted to hunt. Most of those deer, about 70, were killed by buddies. All of us noticed the deer just went down or 25 yards at the most. In Africa, I used a 140 grain Barnes TSX at 3150 fps...the African .270 has a 26" barrel and gives approximately 7mm Rem Mag velocities. The animals crumpled with good shot placement. Poor shot placement by other hunters yielded poor killing power with some very large calibers...usually .300 mags up to .416 caliber. My .270 trumped the the big bores with good bullet placement. Many animals ran for very long distances and we were in for a very long tracking due to poorly placed large caliber bullets. I shot 13 animals on two hunts and all were one shot kills EXCEPT a big Water Buk. He was tracked for about 1/4 mile and a second shot to the base of the skull finished him. I used 9,3 x 62 mm Mauser to take my cape buffalo with a 286 gr Barnes TSX. One shot through the top of the heart and a frantic run for forty five of my long paces. He just went down in mid stride and never moved one time. Stone cold dead. On my hunts, on several occasions, I have experienced proper bullet placement and poor bullet placement. The caliber doesn't matter if you poorly place the bullet. Bullet placement is most likely 90% of killing power as described by the late Finn AAgaard, one of our most experienced and knowledgeable gun writers. Foot pounds and other variables are included in the remaining 10% of killing power He was a Kenyan and a professional African hunter. I agree with Finn. All of this stuff about large calibers being safer and deadlier with marginal hits is nonsense. You Either hit it in the right place or you don't.
I witnessed this and screwed up on my first shot on the water buk(correct spelling) and caribou that left me with with some very valuable memories from two hunts in my lifetime. Let's hit the nail on the head here. Finn Aagaard told us he had seen more animals killed with just one shot in Africa by .270 Winchester rifles than any other caliber. The reason? Low ACCEPTABLE RECOIL which enabled the hunter to precisely place the shot. Plus a FAST, FLAT TRAJECTORY with great energy and penetration. Finn was always amazed by the 130 .270's ability to quickly kill animals up to and including HUGE ELAND weighing up to 2,500 pounds. That's 1,000 lbs. heaver than a 1,500 lb. Yukon Moose that I shot. Jack O'Connor often told stories of Bob Lee, a New Yorker that had shot several lions(one shot each) with a 150 gr. Nosler Partitions. Our darling .270 Win is very capable. Just ask all of the huge Alaska coastal brown bears and their smaller interior grizzly bears killed by .270 Wins. I love my memories of the .270 and witnessing just how wicked and efficient it can be in the field. Glenn
Well said Glenn!
Glenn, truer words of wisdom than I've ever seen. My first rifle and it's still my all time favorite is my .270 Mauser action. So many great qualities in this cartridge. Every hunter and especially new shooters, looking to get into the hunting sport, should read your above paragraphs. A lot of practical knowledge, not just about the .270, but in taking game in general. I for one appreciate what you have penned here. Thank you.
Extremely well written and well documented. Thank you.
These awesome hunting descriptions with the 270 is pure awesomeness and I love it cuz it’s first hand experience with the round and to be honest I don’t think I’ve ever read such detailed information about other rounds, honest, and direct. Tomorrow I’m going to probably buy myself a 270 at a gun show either a Winchester model 70 or a Remington 700. Thanks for the time
Two words in this long drawn out story (no offense intended.)
SHOT PLACEMENT
Enough said
Cheers
The chances of me trading my M70 .270 for a 6.5 Creedmoor ... 0
What about a 257 weatherby mag with a 220 swift thrown in
lol
You obviously have an IQ approaching 160. Have a very Merry Christmas!
The chance of me trading my Abolt 270 for 3 creedmores …0
@@MrJtin69depends the gun it’s in
I have had my grandfathers 270 for many years and have not shot it once. After his passing, it was a keepsake that lived on the wall. Seeing this vid reminded me of his love for that gun.
I think I have decided to do some range work and get some loads together to maybe go knock down a buck for grandpa.
clean it well !
Use it ! I’m sure the old fella would would want it that way
Been shooting .270 since college, over 55 years. Doesn't get any better! O'Connor follower as well!
.270 Baby! Never failed me yet. Only the shooter can fail with this caliber, never the rifle or the load. A great hunting rifle.
Here in southern Ontario Canada the .270win is king due to caliber restrictions during different hunting seasons. I once owned a savage 111 in .270win and it shot lights out right out of the box. I sold it like an idiot to further other firearms interests. But just recently I purchased a tikka t3x lite stainless in .270win and it shoots even better and I’m so glad I bought it! I have a very well rounded hunting firearms collection. But if I could only keep 3 of them it would be my 300win mag, .270win and 12gauge pump action. Just my 2 cents. Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦🤘
When you get to the hunting field, the 270 just do the job. That is probably the reason why people tends to forget about it. Hunters like to fidle with guns, and the 270 don't ask for a lot of fidling 👍🏻
This is the most underrated comment ever. Kudos.
.270 is amazing. I load up 129gr Barnes LRX at just around 3200 FPS. Barnes seem to shoot better going fast! this is an absolute elk killer!
Mind if i ask what powder what barrel length?
WydahomeBoy,
Which Powder?
Are you using MagPro?
or Are you using Superformance?
or Are you using H1000?
I love the .270 Win.
My father used to ask me for my 270 every time we hunted mule deer. He loved my Thompson Center 270. He said that rifle is a good all around hunting gun. I couldn’t agree more. I’m going to miss hunting with him and my older brother. We lost both of them to Covid-19.
We're sorry for your loss, Victor. We hope those fond memories of hunting together stay with you always.
So sorry to hear. Covid has taken so many loved ones.
Sorry for your loss
My .270 was born the same year I was. Mouser action made in Belgium in 1949 on a JC Higgins model 50 put together by Mossberg. I bought it used when I was 16 thanks to Jack O'Connor love. It's been checkered and a padded rubber shoulder pad replaced the metal plate that used to bruise my young shoulder. It kicks as hard as my .300 Win Mag because of it's light weight. It outshoots my Browning X Bolt .270 and is a rare .65 MOA rifle in my collection of good shooting rifles. It is retired with 20 boxes of my handloads to be handed down to the next generation so it can be enjoyed some more.
Regarding long range and the 270 Win. I've shot my Remington Sendero 270 Win to 1000 yards with Sierra MatchKing 135 grain loads. After a shooting session on steel from 200 to 1000 yards a buddy of mine who is in the bullet making business and was spotting me said he wouldn't want me shooting at him at 1000 yards.
I have three 270 rifles in my safe. Love them all.
.270 is my first rifle and I still use it in all my hunts till this day. Fantastic cartridge
270 awesome and timeless. Great to still hear people talk of O’Connor. In the 70s I waited patiently every month to read what he may have to say In Petersens Hunting. His stories of sheep hunting were fantastic
Me too!
Been a long time user. Bought my first Sako in .270 in 1963 as a professional deer culler in New Zealand. Today, much older I still use a .270. The funny thing is, the target species never know the difference between that and one of these fancy new cartridges....
Giday Sam, was waiting for someone to make a great comment.
A good keen man should know the truth. Been using. 270 for 45 years, never felt the need to change a winning formula. Still filling the freezer and that's all that matters.
Kia Ora mate.
Love my Sako’s 🙌 Out of hundreds of rifles bought over 60+ years of collecting I only hunt with Sako’s and that even over the customs I have built which is many!
Almost a 100 years old and just getting started. New long range bullets will give it the greatest come back ever. Great show guys; keep them coming !
i bet none of the longer bullets will be loaded by the main ammo manufactures en lue of the 6.8 western
@@danietkissenle it takes a lot of work to shoot them but I built a 270 for the 170 grain Berger eol it’s shoots 3140 FPS with a g1 of .706 with h1000. hoping to bring it up to 3300 with some new powder I acquired but I’ll slow it back down to just over 3000 for throat life .
@@sethdoane5295 that's badass
heavier bullets in right construction and fast twist carbon barrel yes please ibn a classic style bolt action with timber stock
Just watched this episode on .270. Nice conversation. I have both. 270win and 6.5 creedmoor. My 270 is a Browning blr with a vortex 4-16x42 diamondback scope. Shot deer with both .270 and 6.5. I have to say that with exception of stiff trigger I like the .270 much more. Far more comfortable for me. I get .5" groups all day long with this gun at 100yd and 1" @ 200yd using hornady 130gn sst. Just wish the sst held together a little better. Great show guys, keep it up.
Can’t believe this took so long! Love my .270!
Awesome! Love the 270.
.338-06 Next please!
Its a perfect companion for the .270 Win.
The 270:has been around this long because it is a great cartridge, does extremely well on all deer, caribou, mountain goat, Sheep etc. I have been using this cartridge for over 45 years took a lot of game with it. I too followed and enjoyed Jack O. I also use the old yet reliable model 94 30-30 great brush gun took a number of White tails with this light weight gun. Thank all of you guys for reducing a great truthful video. Keep up the great work. I like the venerable 30-06 also,
I have shot .270 for almost 30 years, will til the day I pass. Currently shoot ballistic silvertip. Hasn't failed yet. 1 shot and the harvest is down. Great video guys, GOD Bless you all.
Hornady's 270 SST's 140gr have a muzzle velocity at about 3090ft/sec. It is great ammo for hunting deer, moose and elk under 400 yards which I use exclusively in my Tikka stainless lite with muzzle break and a fixed power Schmidt and Bender 6x42 with a rock solid reticle.
.270, 25-06, .243, 30-06, .308, lots of non magnum fun.
7mm-08
Right on
My uncle was a student of Jack O'Conner's. Jack taught English and Journalism at UofA and my Uncle had him as a Professor.
270, if it was good enough for Jack O'Conner, it's good enough for me...been shooting one for most of my hunting career and have no complaints..it ALWAYS does the job...my pre '64 model 70 and my Rem. 700 will always be in my gun safe!!
10 minutes? I could talk for 10 months about the 270! Yeah I’m a fan boy! Best damn deer rifle I have ever owned. I have an old Winchester model 70, iron sights and this thing has taken oh my gosh between 40 and 50 deer in my lifetime. I purchased it used in 1975 and no telling how many deer it had taken already. My grandson will inherit this rifle and I hope he never gets rid of it because if it could talk, it would be welcome at any campfire
Always loved 270 win , never drunk the creedmoor koolaid lol
Smart man. No, very smart man.
What’s wrong with creed? Genuinely curious
@@chasehunt6497 never said anything is wrong with it but it’s not the fix all round everybody wants it to be
@@tim1942 agree. Do 99% of hunting with 270 myself. I do think the 6.5 has some science going it’s way that lets it punch above weight class. Mainly in sec. density.
@@chasehunt6497 do a google search on 6.5 vs 270 and just the headings ,sexy creedmoor and boring old 270 but no one talks of energy delivered just bc when most of them could hit a 400 yd target to save there life but just my opinion
Kudos 👍👍😎!!! It's about time the merits of the World Famous .270 Win are lauded!!!! My two "GO TO" rifles are .270Win and .30-06 Sprfld. That old .270 will do the job as long as I do my job.
Not Old, just well seasoned and very capable.
I have been shooting 270 for 20+ years and never let me down. I only hunt whitetails. Handload 150gr bullets at 2800 .5" group at 100yds works for me. I have taken plenty of deer with that combo
I’ve had my Ruger M77 in .270win for over 25 years now and it has never let me down, i wouldn’t change it for anything. ❤️🏴
I have wanted one of those for a long time. A true classic
Got my Red pad, tang safety M77R 270W in 1974. Others have come and gone since but it’s still here and ready to go! It works a lot better than I do now. 😊
The .270 is a great cartridge, in every sense of the word!
My Dad went with 270 several decades ago after years of '06. I will soon be following his lead. Thanks for the affirmation.
Love the question, "Is the 270 obsolete?" Funny, the 270 blows away the best 6.5 Creedmoor!
@@brackishbass It's insane for people to take pot shots at the 270 while praising the 6.5 Creedmoor. Recoil comes with the increased performance.
270 will always win in my eyes!!!
@@brackishbass the 6.5 comes with a skirt.
@@keiththompson7392 such a dumb thing to say just because its not your round of choice doesn't mean we all have to pick what u like
No not really they are very similar but 6.5 is a little better for long range due to the availability of higher BC bullets and the inherent long sleek shape of the 6.5mm bullets that give it that high BC hence why the military is switching from 308 and 300 win mag to 6.5 creedmoor in some of their precision rifle applications ....you can hate the 6.5 all you want but 99% of F class and competition shooters shoot 6mm and 6.5 for a reason you wont see them shooting 270 and no one can deny how good they are at what they were intended to do unless they have no experience in the matter
Jack O'Connor was fascinated with the idea of necking down the 30-06 to the 270. He convinced gun maker, Al Biesen(in Spokane WA) to produce 4 proto-types. O'Connor took these to Wyo for field testing. After finishing, he left one of the rifles with my father. I still have that 270.
My father gave me a Browning 270 and I have harvested coyote, whitetail, muledeer, antelope, elk and black bear with it. It’s still my go to rifle.
The 270 is a better rifle than most current rifles. I’ve tried them all and I’ll keep my 270. I can hunt elk with my 270 but a 6.5 won’t work in a 400 yard shot.
Jack was famous for using not just the .270, but the 7mm Mauser, the .30-06 and the 416 Rigby.
Read a few of his books!
Always with Elk, Moose, large mean Bears 🐻 bullet placement is KEY !
If you feel you can't put that animal down with one shot?
DON'T SHOOT !
I offer this just as my Grandfather taught me. And I've never lost a single head of game!
When they talk of O’Connor being a gun writer, they should say he was a hunter/rifleman first, then a gun writer. The .270 got his love because he understood that it was a great caliber; especially in a pre-1964 Winchester model 70!
My go to rifle for deer hunting in the Adirondack mountains in NY is a Remington 7600 pump in 270. Awesome combo
I actually listened to this while driving to work today, but had to watch and listen once more. The .270 Win is my long time cartridge, the only centerfire rifle that I have owned for 20 years (Dad bought me this as my first rifle when I was 15) until I got a .300 WSM in 2019. Both my youngest brother and I love our .270 Wins (Savage M110 for me and Winchester M70 Shadow Warrior for him). We both shoot 130 grain projectiles out of our rifles (Sierra Game Kings and Nosler Ballistic Tips) at around 2950 fps. My brother cooked up a load with the Hornady 140 grain SSTs and RL26 that went 3100 fps, no pressure signs and the first three shots with that load was under an inch. The .270 has been around so long and it is rather easy to reload for in most cases, every cartridge can be picky at times. My bro struggled with the 7mm Rem Mag and gave up on it.
I feel the term modernized or more modern cartridge get tossed around a lot, just like certain terms that every automotive journalist has their favorite terms to use when describing the feel or look of a vehicle, more modern design is one of them. I feel that if rifle manufacturers would put a 1:8 twist in their .270 Wins and WSMs they would rise in even more popularity, instead of just the standard 1:10 twist so that it can shoot the 150-170 grain weight class higher BC type bullets better. I actually saw that the Ruger American and couple others have the 22-250 in a 1:10 twist instead of the traditional 1:14 maybe 1:12, so the .270 could have it too. I know that the 27 Nosler that recently came out along with the 165 grain Nosler Accubond is a 1:8 to spin that longer bullet.
I like all three hosts' choices for rifles, part of me would want to go the Jim route (since I already have a longtime .270) and build one (sadly don't have the financial means too, especially full custom not just a barrel swap) with a 1:8 twist and see where I can take the Ole Venerable .270 Win. My vote for "America's Cartridge".
Thank you three for getting around to sharing my favorite cartridge of all time.
It has taken many years and many successful hunts for me to realize how well the 270 winchester works for my hunting purposes. Just bought a Bergara B14 ridge in 270. Interesting conversation at the end of the pod cast - It does seem a little strange to buy a modern hunting rifle chambered for a 100 year old cartridge.
Ive got 4 270's and a 270 wsm love them all and have taken everything with them .
I don’t have every Jack O’Connor book, but have most of them. He was an excellent writer.
A favorite of my father, my brothers and myself since 1966. Loading our own cartridges, winning contests, 100s of whitetail, dozens of mule deer, and a few elk - a wonderful history and fond memories. (.243, .270, 7mm RM ‐ my long standing arsenal; most often used - the .270 - for plenty of reasons).
I have most of the books Jack O’Connor wrote. He was quite a character.
i recently met a deputy that uses the 270 for his work gun - the passion he had when talking about the round and the performance was just so interesting - the round might have won over a new fan
Love my .270, my grandpa and uncle have used it since their first hunting days as have I. I explore more then they did but when I’m going hunting I almost always grab my .270 over everything else.
Your grandpa and uncle weren’t wrong!
Counseling and consultation has not cured me of the need for faster, larger diameter, heavier bullets. But, 3 years ago I built a 270 on a Ruger 77R action that has now become my primary hunting rifle for everything below bear. With a 130 grain Game King never a failed shot and all one shot kills. I'm sold on the cartridge.
Actually just got my first hunting rifle the other day off of Gunbroker. Got a 1984 Winchester Model 70 XTR in 270 for $685. Should be here next week. I'm pretty excited.
You get a deer with it this year?
@@rikertvonfulton16 No actually. I can't get it sighted in. So far I've put 60 rounds through it and it just seems to be all over the place. 20 rounds of Winchester Super X 130 grain, and 40 rounds of the 150 grain.
@@Limp_Bizkiteer Oh wow. Scope or ring problem?
@@rikertvonfulton16 I don't have anything scope on hand to try at the moment, but the scope is my next step.
Used the 270 for about 20 years now. Harvested alot of whitetail and muledeer with it, and even a couple of coyotes! 58 grains of Hodgdon 4831sc with a Nosler 140 grain Accubond, does the job!
Loves 270, I had mine for 27 year and it has never turn me down.
I just put a 7.5” twist 26 inch 270 barrel on my savage 110, gonna be shooting the Berger 170 eol
Hell yes 👍 !!!!!!
I just bought a Winchester XPR in .270 Win, and topped it with a Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x44, and even with the cheap Winchester silver box ammo, it’ll ring steel at 400 yrds shot after shot for a joke. It’s all I use for white tail deer, but if I ever get drawn for an Eastern moose tag, I’ll go with some Nosler AccuBond big game cartridges and I’ll be ready for larger game, just like that!
Love the 270, filled our freezer for years
Have both and love them ! 270 is my hunting cartridge and 6.5 is my dog and target gun only an idiot will hate one or the other . Love them all
Love this guys. I just picked up a Model 70 Featherweight Super Grade in 270 Win (My dream rifle) and the Cabela's 50th Anniversary 1 of 500!
Browning A-Bolt Medallion in .270 is my first rifle from my dad. Plan to keep it in the family for a long time. Does it all.
Got my first rifle when I was 12, a Remington 700 chambered in .270 Winchester. Since then, I’ve taken many elk, deer, and antelope in all sorts of sizes and ranges with it without a problem. I run 150 grain handloads and I’ve never been disappointed with the results, even big bull elk
My primary hunting rifle since 1979 has been a Ruger M77 in 270 with a 4x Leopold, I've taken loads of Mulies and Whitetails and a few Elk. All with 130 gr Speer Boatails 98% one shot.
Love my 270! One shot per deer for over 40 years! A custom reload of the 6.8 110gr Accubond with a MV of 3350 will give you a 400 yard gun, that doesn't require a range finder or holding off the body!
Absolutely love the 270. Pairs very well with a Winchester model 70. I happen to have one and use it often.
The .270 is an excellent cartridge. Period.
Been shooting my 270 for 40 years all 1 shot kills never once having a White tail run, dropped where I shot them. 130 grain nosler partition. Big fan of Jack O'Connor
@OP, little chance you read this 3 years later but I just discovered your UA-cam channel awhile back and I’m catching up. Which is fun because I can binge on these bite sized discussions for days.
Wonderful chats, extremely informative. There is a lot of information to unpack in these 15-20 minute videos. Excellent format, perfect moderation.
The discussions are so reasonable, which is something I haven’t seen in a long time when it comes to discussing ammo or platforms. I cannot stress emphasize that point enough
Thanks to the Vortex team, I’m weak on names but your crew is solid, everyone at the table is bringing something of value which rounds out the discussion. Multiple points of view and experience with respectful dialogue. Nobody talks over anyone else and disagreements are bolstered with context.
These videos are a lot of fun and the next scope I buy I’ll be stroking for a Vortex, as spending is my only way of showing appreciation. I’m just getting into scopes (mid-40s and my eyes just went soft) but I’m fairly confident Vortex will have something in 4 or 6 power fixed and low parallax issues. And water tight, naturally.
I just got a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight with a gorgeous wood stock in .270 Win. caliber. A caliber I've been shooting since the early seventies. It does an excellent job in capable hands. I love to take it to the shooting range and practice, practice, practice. Very moderate recoil with 130 gr. bullets.
I absolutely love my Christiansen Arms Traverse in .270 Winchester. I’m currently shooting Federal Custom shop .270 win using the ELDX.145 hornady. I’m getting .38 MOA at 200 yards easily and frequently.... match accuracy with a hunting bullet.
This rifle has put down more game than all my rifles combined. I’m glad I took my friends advice.
I would love too see one on the .280 ackley improved
It has dropped finally!
You need to do a 10min episode on the 270 WSM and 6.8 Western!
Classic through and through born and bred hunter of a cartridge. The thing lives for rocking bucks and bulls flat out. Perfect bled of flat trajectory with impressive sectional density and it punches deep. Those are some long projectiles from 1925.
The .270 Winchester is more viable than ever! Keep in mind that the rise of the .270 Winchester came back a long time ago when there were only a few powders and bullets available. How much better now is the .270 Winchester with new powders and bullets? The same could be said for the 30/06 also.... Our old staple cartridges are better than ever..... and yes, Jack O'Connor did write and publicize the .270 Winchester, however, what made the .270 Winchester popular is how it performed on game. If it wasn't a performer on game, Jack would have never written about it!
Couldn't agree more.
Packed my 270 on many a British Columbia sheep, goat hunts, took Moose, Elk, Bear on most trips on the way out, a few times had to leave them for another day, pack animals already loaded .
But always packed a few cartridges for whatever we might encounter, no need for a safe full of rifles. 270 got you covered.
I have a .270 for many years and it always brought home the bacon for me.
The big advantage the 270 has of many short action “modern cartridges” is that is stays in the velocity range to expand reliably much further down range (many 308 loads are below 2000fps before 300 yards). The Achilles heal of the 270 is the fast velocity at close ranges could cause bullet fragmentation which destroyed meat and sometimes didn’t penetrate deep enough. With a high quality bonded/partition/monolithic bullet that issue is resolved and the 270 will expand rapidly and penetrate deeply enough for clean elk/moose harvests.
I grew up reading Outdoor Life etc. Naturally I bought a .270. It was marketed well lol
I love my Remington 700 270. My first ever firearm. I threw a vortex 1-9 on there and I can smoke the deer up here in the blueridge mountains of NC easily. Out of all the rifles I have I’m still rocking my 60’s marlin 30-30 iron sights in the deep, thick hollers around here and my 270 for more distance. My buddy dropped a bull elk at 475 yrds in New Mexico with his 270 and dropped it on the spot.
I've had chemo and I'm kinda confined to my recliner for awhile yall keep me entertained Ilove yall
I have a Ruger American in 270 win with a vortex diamondback 3-9 BDC reticle. It’s an excellent hunting setup and pretty budget friendly. Scope reticle is good to 450 yds which is perfect for the 270 ability to take an Elk.
So when y'alls gonna do the 6.5x55 Swede and the 7x57 mauser
@Rom vin i get sick listening about how great the creedmoor is. ive heard people say its a 500 yard elk cartridge. give me a break. 200 yard white tale cartridge is more like it. im sure its good on coyotes and varmints and whatnot.
@Rom vin I am a swede, i apologize my bad english. 6,5 x55 is a common cartridge in sweden for moose but and it is a big but the swedish moose is quite small and the range is often short. I think 75 procent is inside the 100 yards mark. Now days 308 win 30-06 and 9,3x62 is moore used for moose and wild boar. But i think it is a good deer cartridge.
Love my Winchester Model 70 in 30-06, and if I could have it in any other caliber, it would have been the 270.
I agree, so much so I have both 270 and 3006.
My dads a bit of a model 70 nut. 30-06, 270, 270wsm, 300 win mag, 243, 308. He doesn’t own another rifle other than a model 70. The one he always hunted with was his 30-06 he bought when he was in the army 50 some years ago
My most accurate rifle is a sporterized Mauser ‘98 chambered in 270 Winchester. I think it was made in the early 1960s based on the Jaeger sliding dovetail detachable scope mount and the Lyman Alaskan 2x scope with a German post reticle.
I’m so glad you asked the question “which rifle available today would you buy chambered in 270?” A pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 would be perfect, but I’m tempted to swim against the tide and get a very “modern” rifle just because.
Update: I recently came across a late ‘70s Sako A III carbine (Mannlicher full length stock) in .270 Winchester and added it to the herd.
There is something about the 270WIN that makes me feel like it’s just got to be chambered in a rifle with a nice walnut stock.
I recently got mine in a Browning X-bolt hunter and it’s fantastic!
It would also be very nice in a new Winchester M70 featherweight!
When I first started whitetail deer hunting, I didn't know much about the different rounds. A buddy talked me into a good used Browning BAR in .270. I never regretted the choice, but I also never needed that 2nd quick shot that has been at my disposal (though maybe my time in the Marines made me feel more comfortable about having a semiautomatic).
My 270 WSM I the best for reaching out without the 7mm beating. In a short package. Luv enit
My favorite cartridge of all time! That’s why I have two of them. Plus, it just sounds badass! Lol
The .270 has been around since 1925. Jack O'Connor used it on all sizes of game and proved its one of the all time best calibers...putting game down is more about shot placement than rifle caliber..I've never had an animal get away when using my pre-64 Mod 70, with 130 gr bullets
.270 Winchester is a great cartridge !!!!! Love it!!
The .270 is a great round. Easy to love.
Not as well traveled as you folks are, nor the wallet some folks have, I just needed a rifle with ammo I could find most anywhere. Having read some of Jack Oconner wisdom and listened to everyone tout the 243 as “flat shooting”, I went to the ballistic sheets and found that the 100 gr 243 traveled an almost parallel path as the 130 gr 270. I needed no more prompting. I’ve never been disappointed. On the bench or in the field, it just works. The old adage about if it ain’t broke don’t fix it applies here.
Here’s the thing with a 270win when it came out it came out with a 26 inch pipe/ barrel for some who don’t know what the pipe is figure speech but anyways if you take a regular 270win 22in barrel your not getting true 270 Winchester performance You’re basically getting 7 mm 08 performance so what I’m saying is if you do not handload for the 270win just get a 7mm08 Just because with a 22 inch barrel or 24 inch barrel you’re getting basically the same performance as a factory 270win Shooting factory ammo now with that said if you really want a 270 Winchester And want true performance get a 24 inch barrel and hand load 130gr Nosler Partitions or Nosler AB at 3150 to 3200 FPS Now you’re talking Jack O’Connor true to 270 performance
Built one with a 30 inch barrel shooting 170 grain Berger eol 3140 FPS
@@sethdoane5295 that's crazy that's f****** smoking
270 is an outstanding cartridge. Nosler Partitions will get the job done. I would like to see you do the 270 & 257 Weatherby Magnums.
Marketing is so powerful here. 6.5 Creedmoor is the same as 6.5 Swedish Mauser, but no one would think that's a better performer than a .270.
The 270 makes an excellent varmint cartridge with lighter bullets
They go from 110 gr to 150 gr, if you can find them.
Good choices on the rifles. I love my Tikka T3x SS in 270. Light but not too light and very accurate
Shot my second pa buck ever this year, nice 8 point. I used Ruger 77 mk 11 stainless, equipped with stainless 3-9 leupold scope. Shooting the nosler 130 grain accubond trophy amo. Amazing set up cloverleaf groups at 150 off a bench. By far my favorite hun. Switched from a 30-30 and rem 700 30.06 both served well but for me the 270 is the perfect gun for my needs. Great podcast/ video. Thanks for sharing guys. Long live the icon jack O’Connor
If you have a proper .270 Winchester with a 24" barrel, you can just about hit 3000 FPS with 150 grain bullets in handloads. 130 grain bullets can easily hit 3100 FPS. With numbers like that your "need" for a 7mm magnum is very much reduced. Down in the woods with ranges averaging well under 200 yards, standard 150 grain loadings loafing along at about 2800-2850 FPS are plenty of sauce for deer, bear, elk, and moose. In the more open places where 400 yards is possible, the various 140 grain and traditional 130 grain can run fast and flat and take 400 pound animals no sweat. Having a .270 is or can be a "regular" rifle and a virtual light magnum rolled into one.
My first deer rifle was a 270 and I absolutely loved it. Gave you alittle extra thump over the 243, while sacrificing the flat shooting. I loved the round, and it will always have a place in my safe, but I can't change away from my 300 win mag. WOULD LOVE A 300 WIN MAG talk. Much love from Virginia!
Super cool! Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation, Alex!👊