I have owned this DDC using it's i2s output and it is everything Hans says it is and more. Also I can congratulate the Singxer on it's ease of use and problem free operation. It transforms the digital signal so your dac can perform at it's best. For most systems using the USB input today, you may find the improvement with the SU6 in the chain simply amazing. A lot of the improvement stems from the super capacitor power supply.
Thank you Hans, I now have the Singxer SU6 between my SOtM SMS 200 ultra neo (with SOtM clock) and my DAC and the improvement is quite noticeable. The sound is more dynamic and at the same time more natural and less stressful, which I'm really enjoying.
Hans I'm so happy to see how well you are doing after the operation. You are like a different person. When I used to watch you're videos I was always a bit concerned when the tremors hit you... happy new year, and best wishes for you and yours!
Connecting my DAC via USB not directly to the PC but with an active Kensington USB hub in between also resulted in a very welcome improvement in sound quality for very little money.
great review, thanks! I Own a SU6 since a couple of years and I noticed a clear improvement when coupled with my Matrix Xsabre pro DAC via I2S: mainly more texture, cleaness and finesse. Also to me it's a great value for the money!
I just bought one based on your enthusiastic review Hans. I have been driving my Metrum Pavane DAC via a Matrix USB card from my gaming PC for years. I made the mistake of buying a Cocktail Audio X50D, which absolutely made my DAC come to life. I was shocked at the improvement in sound. I know exactly what you are on about. Direct driving your DAC from a PC results in terrible performance. I hope the Singxer sounds as good as the X50D, then I can use my PC again for gaming and music.
I like the idea that this components can be used with a cheap RPi setup to further improve its sound, it would be interesting to see how this compares to the Denafrips IRIS
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel does it make sense to use SU 6 bettween PC and DAC LKS Musetec mh-da 005 - ( 3000 € ) over I2S ? Could there be any sonic improvement , as this DAC has very good improved Amanero USB interface ?
@@igorkrajnc5915 I can't answer your question, but you can. Simply compare your system with his second reference system, and if yours is on par, then the Sinxger is a good choice for you. It seems like somewhere beyond a $10-20K rig one might consider JFET, which may arguably be beatable by anything else of the kind.
I have the SU 2 and noticed immediate improvements when added to my computer system but the game changed when I purchased a Lumin transport and removed the computer and the SU 2. I do believe the SU 2 is very helpful in certain situations and at a good price. Thanks! I love your videos!
I have a nuc running Roon and a Pro - Ject Pre Box. If I understand this correctly, I would plug the usb from my PC to the SU 6, then to the SPDIF on the Pre Box no dip switches needed, correct?
I just today got a Holo Audio SU-1 KTE Edition DDC. Having recently tested my setup with a friend's DDC, I will never go back to straight USB to PC. Using the DDC, I much prefer I2S, which sounds better though the DDC, than straight from PC to the DAC using USB.
I'd really like to test that KTE edition against the Gustard U18. I wish a reviewer would do a battle of the DDC's! And what helps a bit more is using an app like Roon or whatever and upsampling/converting everything to DSD.
Thank you for the review, Hans! Do you happen to know the right switch sequence for the SU-6 so it pairs correctly with Denafrips Pontus II via I2S? Unfortunately, the manual of the SU-6 doesn't provide much explanation.
If you set the DIP switches on the SU-6 to the PS-Audio standard (as shown in the manual) and also set the Pontus II to the PS-Audio standard it should work. I don't have a Pontus so I can't try.
Thank you very much for the video, Hans. It is unanimous opinion that placing a DDC between a computer and a DAC improves the sound. When we connect a DDC between a USB streamer with noise treatment and a DAC, opinions are divided. From what I could understand of your systems over the last few years, you only used a DDC, between the Allo USBBridge Signature and the Ares II, with the Allo having a USB with noise treatment. My question is, is there any sound benefit in connecting a DDC to streamers like the SOTM SMS 200 Ultra Neo or the Auralic Aries G1, which are streamers that are in a higher category than the Allo USBBridge Signature?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel how about in theory the importance of USB cables for an asynchronous protocol? There is only brief mention here about 5.5 minutes in: ua-cam.com/video/N66aDb7LZaM/v-deo.html
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel It would be really great for a battle of the DDC's type of review. Singxer, Denafrips, the KTE SU, U18 etc. See how they fare against each other.
Do you notice any delay from inserting a device like this in the signal chain? I had a Denafrips Venus which internally reclocks everything. Maybe similar to what this does? But weather or not that was the reason, the Venus introduced enough delay that I didn't want to use it for video, or PC gaming. I wound up selling for an Audio-gd R1 and money towards subwoofers for the living room.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you very much, I got it and love it. But I am thinking of getting a Ferrum Hypsos, can you use Ferrus Hypsos to power the Singxer-su6? Or do you have any recommendations ? Thank you for your help again sorry for the late reply
Hello Hans. Thank you for your videos. Living in a caravan, I don't have speakers because there is no treatment at all and I lack space. I listen music from my PC with Audirvana on headphones through a Chord Qutest DAC and Audeze LCD-X headphones, I have two headphone amps, a SPL Phonitor One and the Feliks Elise II which is a tube amp. Do you think that the Singxer Audio SU 6 will improve the sound of my little system ? And what is the proper way to connect it to the Qutest ? Through the optical in ? Thank you
I'm no headphone listener and I don't have hands-on experience with the products you mention but I am quite sure the Singxer will improve the sound quality.
I'd love to hear your opinion on the Gustard U18 if you could get your hands on one for review and the Pi2Designs Mercury streamer is coming out very very soon as well and could be an interesting option as well.
Currently running a Matrix X-Sabre 2 powered by a 6V SBooster between my roon rock nuc and Rockna Wavelight via I2S. Thinking I can further improve the sound I was thinking at this much praised SU6 or the AudioGD DI20HE, especially the latter since it is suppose to have a better power supply. I know that you have a relation with Magna, maybe you could test one… Cheers Hans, and great content as always!
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel well, we appreciate the ones that you do review but I suppose it's only normal to suggest others that we think of and might be comparable... aren't comparisons the click makers in this business? :)
Please excuse my ignorance. I’m not sure what this device is and what it’s doing. Is it a digital to digital converter, a network bridge, an audio bridge (assuming there’s a difference), a power supply or …? And what was it designed to accomplish ?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelWell, I listened to the video again. The video title calls it an audio bridge. But the statement at 11:55 tells me it's a DDC made to clean up USB signals and not a bridge after all. I hope I've got that right.
Im at the point of considering a bridge/streamer. I currently use Audirvana Studio Kernel Streaming mode plugged into a Chord Qutest which is Galvanically isolated. How does my set up compare? Would I also benefit doing it the way you suggest in the video? Many Thanks
Does the SU 6 simultaneously output SPDIF on both coax and BNC like my Allo DigiOne, and does it successfully pass MQA signaling from Roon over SPDIF to your Brooklyn DAC?
Hans, did you ever use this with the CHORD M-SCALER and CHORD DAVE combo? Do you think it would add, or does the M-SCALER eliminate the need for the bridge? If needed would I hook it into the BNC/SPIF input?
Thank you for the review. As the NUC and simple RPI (both with low quality of USB signal) showed the same high quality output from the DDC. Would the sound benefit from pairing this DDC with e.g. Allo usbridge signature? Or the streamer would need to be even higher quality? Or you can throw anything at this DDC, the quality of the sound would be the same?
Hi hans! Briliant review and thank you for all the content :) Question: I am currently running audirvana on a pc through a sonore ultrarendu connected with ethernet cable and then a supra usb cable from the ultrarendu to the Rme adi 2 dac. Would it make sense/a difference to place the Singxer or any other DDC in between the ultrarendu and the Rme dac? Or is it unnecessary considering I already have a streamer in the chain? Thank you ♥️
Hi Hans, I wonder if you could give your opinion on the quality of audio using a Pi into the Singer su6 VS using the SOTM SMS 200 ultra neo. In my case both would go to Mytek Brooklyn. I ask because I know you have experience of all of these. Thanks
Always use the best digital source and then don't lose the quality on the way. I have no experience using the Pi into the Singxer, I not even try. The USB output of the Pi is polluted and not stable enough. I used the Pi with the USBridge Sig card and dual power supply. I am sure the Singxer will improve the sound quality when using a Pi, but you better invest in a quality HAT board like the USBridge fist.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Hi Hans, I just watched your singxer SU6 video again and I thought you tried a Pi (with no HAT) into the Singxer and found that the Singxer sounded very good. Have I missed something?
Yes, connect a USB cable between the Mac mini and the Singxer and an AES/EBU cable between the Mac mini and the NAD M33. Use a quality 110Ω AES/EBU cable. Second best choice is a 75Ω SPDIF cable.
Thanks for the Video Hans, let me suggest to test also another very interesting DDS the Gustard U18. And another suggestion is to use the I2S interface with DAC, looks more interesting. With my Rockna Wavelight sounded very good
I ignored your standing advice and connected my Mac Mini M1 running Roon Core directly to the DAC in my powered speakers. I wanted a minimal hardware setup for my desktop. I was shopping for a higher quality USB cable (Audioquest Carbon) and a USB filter (iFi iPurifier3) when your video notice popped up. I now have another option to examine, but I don't think the DAC in the Vanatoo T1E speakers will benefit from it.
Hans, how about showing some Gustard love? lol. I run a Gustard U18 DDC between Roon and a Gustard X26pro and I can say the U18 makes a great DAC sound even greater DAC. The U18 for $499 USD is an amazing value and at that price point I don't see any DDC besting it. Love your channel and thanks for your content!
@@igorkrajnc5915 Interesting question but the SU 6 is also 40% more costly than the U18. I doubt it's 40% better! Maybe Hans can get a U18 and do a comparison!
@@igorkrajnc5915 U18 made immediate noticeable improvement with my $1500 X26pro. And I find it gets better as it burns in more. But also think it would benefit something like a Holo May or Denefrips Terminator 2. See no reason it would not. Wish I had the $$$$ to test! Also note U18 uses newer XMOS SU218 chip vs SU 6 using older SU208. Why spend 40% more and get older chip?
I have the U18. See my comment above. Great bang for the DDC buck. I love mine. I had their U16 but the U18 is a big step up from that. You won't be sorry if you get one.
@@prova85 Hi are you using the U18 with the stock fuse? I put in the Synergistic Purple fuse based on recommendation from forums in mine and it's been fantastic. What output are you using and have you tried external clock yet?
@@kevtn8 Actually been using the U18 with a Gustard fuse for a couple of months. Replaced the basic fuse it came with and the upgraded one made a nice difference. Since Gustard sells them you'd think they'd put them in their top products like the U18 and X26Pro. Yesterday, as a matter of fact, I put an SR Purple that has about 160hrs burn in time on it in my X26Pro DAC. I wanted to not really listen to until it had some good hours on it. Noticeable difference from the upgraded Gustard fuse that I also had been using in the DAC. The Purple is not coming out. :) I use Roon to upsample/convert to DSD and I am using the I²S output to my X26Pro. Last week I installed a Purple fuse in my amp and wow what a difference that made. I was skeptical of those fuses especially for what they cost but I'm keeping the 2 I have and will be ordering a Purple for my U18. No external clock for me. The Gustard clock costs as much as what I paid for the X26Pro. I have a hard time cost justifying the difference I would hear with it especially after how the fuses affected my system.
@@prova85 Kenny that's great to hear. I've never tried aftermarket fuse before but I'm believer now. Yeah Gustard internal clock was one of main reasons I went with it. No other DDC at this price is using such expensive clock. My unit is still burning in but the midrange and voices are pretty amazing on this. Enjoy your system.
Must ask as I do not understand, why HDMI outputs if there is not HDMI input, only USB? I know there are no "dumb" questions but I must be missing something. Can this device internally convert USB in to HDMI out ??? Thanks in advance.
I have a Dell All in One Core I5 computer hooked directly to a SMSL SU9 dac. I run Jriver in FLAC with every thing upsampled to 24bit 192khz. Everything I play from JRiver I have the actual CD and can do an immediate comparison. I find that the sound between the CD and FLAC is almost identical. I can stream at CD quality or High Res off Amazon HD. I find the quality to be near FLAC but I can tell a difference. Do you think I could benefit from a product like this review. I feel I am not hearing any noise from my computer, but you don't know what you don't know. Thanks
Als ik Uw uitleg min of meer begrepen heb, is dit toestel alleen nuttig wanneer je muziek op je computer hebt staan. Ik gebruik mijn Ipad en mijn Macbook om muziek te streamen met Spotify en Apple Music in cd kwaliteit naar mijn hoofdtelefoon en mijn Marantz streamer receiver. Ik maak wel gebruik van dragonfly cobalt usb dac waarin een opschoning zit van de usb output. Of heb ik review totaal verkeerd begrepen? Groeten Ludo België
I did not know of the existence of ddc. very interesting topic! I am fascinated by the fact that in this digital music world much has stll to come.. In the meanwhile I'm enjoyng my Aires G2.1 digital transport! 😉 Thanks Hans!!
I went over to the Bluesound system and never looked back. I now only use my computer to watch you. Keep up the good work, and stay well.
I am thrilled to have discovered your channel! Have been watching your older videos for days. Superb content!
Awesome, thank you!
I have owned this DDC using it's i2s output and it is everything Hans says it is and more. Also I can congratulate the Singxer on it's ease of use and problem free operation. It transforms the digital signal so your dac can perform at it's best. For most systems using the USB input today, you may find the improvement with the SU6 in the chain simply amazing. A lot of the improvement stems from the super capacitor power supply.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you Hans, I now have the Singxer SU6 between my SOtM SMS 200 ultra neo (with SOtM clock) and my DAC and the improvement is quite noticeable. The sound is more dynamic and at the same time more natural and less stressful, which I'm really enjoying.
Great to hear!
Hans I'm so happy to see how well you are doing after the operation. You are like a different person. When I used to watch you're videos I was always a bit concerned when the tremors hit you... happy new year, and best wishes for you and yours!
Thank you, happy new year
Thanks
Thank you!
Again Hans… really great to have you back!!!
👍🏻
Connecting my DAC via USB not directly to the PC but with an active Kensington USB hub in between also resulted in a very welcome improvement in sound quality for very little money.
great review, thanks! I Own a SU6 since a couple of years and I noticed a clear improvement when coupled with my Matrix Xsabre pro DAC via I2S: mainly more texture, cleaness and finesse. Also to me it's a great value for the money!
Thanks for sharing
I'd like to see this Singxer SU6 compared to the new Gustard U18
How come that you people always point me to devices I have not reviewed?😁
I just bought one based on your enthusiastic review Hans. I have been driving my Metrum Pavane DAC via a Matrix USB card from my gaming PC for years. I made the mistake of buying a Cocktail Audio X50D, which absolutely made my DAC come to life. I was shocked at the improvement in sound. I know exactly what you are on about. Direct driving your DAC from a PC results in terrible performance. I hope the Singxer sounds as good as the X50D, then I can use my PC again for gaming and music.
It sure does
Hi, Hans
Great review!
I bought one.
I felt the treble is a bit veiled.
Does it need burn in?
Yes it does. But also cabling is important.
I love this channel.
I like the idea that this components can be used with a cheap RPi setup to further improve its sound, it would be interesting to see how this compares to the Denafrips IRIS
The Singxer is almost as good as the Gaya so I see no point in reviewing the Iris.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel does it make sense to use SU 6 bettween PC and DAC LKS Musetec mh-da 005 - ( 3000 € ) over I2S ?
Could there be any sonic improvement , as this DAC has very good improved Amanero USB interface ?
@@igorkrajnc5915 I can't answer your question, but you can. Simply compare your system with his second reference system, and if yours is on par, then the Sinxger is a good choice for you. It seems like somewhere beyond a $10-20K rig one might consider JFET, which may arguably be beatable by anything else of the kind.
I have the SU 2 and noticed immediate improvements when added to my computer system but the game changed when I purchased a Lumin transport and removed the computer and the SU 2.
I do believe the SU 2 is very helpful in certain situations and at a good price.
Thanks! I love your videos!
Thanks for sharing
@@Leo-yn5fx Yes I use my phone for the remote. The Lumin connects to my home network.
so if i get a transport like lumin or hifirose or eversolo with usb out to usb in of a dac i dont need a ddc between them ?
@@junior-OG correct, in fact I feel using less hardware is more important.
@@jasonmehlhoff8877 ok thanks
Thanks Hans for your work and nice review, would love to see more reviews on DDCs !
On it!
Hi Hans, how does the SU6 compare with the other denafrips ddc that you have compared? For example the gaia? Not sure if you tried their other ddcs.
See the comment I gave on the same question below
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks!
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I have checked the comments below. You directed us to the review of the Denafrips Gaia. I did not find any comparison.
I have a nuc running Roon and a Pro - Ject Pre Box. If I understand this correctly, I would plug the usb from my PC to the SU 6, then to the SPDIF on the Pre Box no dip switches needed, correct?
Correct
I just today got a Holo Audio SU-1 KTE Edition DDC. Having recently tested my setup with a friend's DDC, I will never go back to straight USB to PC. Using the DDC, I much prefer I2S, which sounds better though the DDC, than straight from PC to the DAC using USB.
I'd really like to test that KTE edition against the Gustard U18. I wish a reviewer would do a battle of the DDC's! And what helps a bit more is using an app like Roon or whatever and upsampling/converting everything to DSD.
@@prova85 I now own both, the U18 and the KTE, and of course I can't tell a difference in terms of sound - they're both good DDCs.
@@decoryder Good to know the U18 punches right up there with a DDC that costs about twice as much. I think the U18 is a great bang for the buck.
Thank you for the review, Hans!
Do you happen to know the right switch sequence for the SU-6 so it pairs correctly with Denafrips Pontus II via I2S? Unfortunately, the manual of the SU-6 doesn't provide much explanation.
If you set the DIP switches on the SU-6 to the PS-Audio standard (as shown in the manual) and also set the Pontus II to the PS-Audio standard it should work. I don't have a Pontus so I can't try.
Thank you very much for the video, Hans.
It is unanimous opinion that placing a DDC between a computer and a DAC improves the sound.
When we connect a DDC between a USB streamer with noise treatment and a DAC, opinions are divided.
From what I could understand of your systems over the last few years, you only used a DDC, between the Allo USBBridge Signature and the Ares II, with the Allo having a USB with noise treatment.
My question is, is there any sound benefit in connecting a DDC to streamers like the SOTM SMS 200 Ultra Neo or the Auralic Aries G1, which are streamers that are in a higher category than the Allo USBBridge Signature?
I haven’t tried but I don’t think so.
Thank you.
Please are you saying that item is a highly recommended device before a DAC?
Correct
@Hans did you do a video on the high end USB cables? I have looked but cannot find.
I don’t do cables. Sorry.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel how about in theory the importance of USB cables for an asynchronous protocol? There is only brief mention here about 5.5 minutes in: ua-cam.com/video/N66aDb7LZaM/v-deo.html
I am connecting a HiBy portable player (R6 2020) to RME ADI with a USB C to Coax cable. Do iI need to clean the signal?
I don’t know that player so I can’t say.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks for the answer! Big follower of your channel!
I think, and this is just an educated guess, that a DAP is far cleaner than a PC or laptop. So maybe no need?
How do you rate this compared to the denafrips ddc
You find the review of the GAIA here: ua-cam.com/video/FmIy8H-h59Q/v-deo.html
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel It would be really great for a battle of the DDC's type of review. Singxer, Denafrips, the KTE SU, U18 etc. See how they fare against each other.
@@prova85 That would be an epic battle lol
Do you notice any delay from inserting a device like this in the signal chain?
I had a Denafrips Venus which internally reclocks everything. Maybe similar to what this does? But weather or not that was the reason, the Venus introduced enough delay that I didn't want to use it for video, or PC gaming. I wound up selling for an Audio-gd R1 and money towards subwoofers for the living room.
all rechecking devices will delay the sound. They store incoming data in a buffer and read the buffer from a stable clock. That takes time.
Can this be used on a Desktop Pc as a sound output for anything or do I need a bit perfect software all the time?
You can use it without bitperfect software at the penalty of lower sound quality.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you very much, I got it and love it. But I am thinking of getting a Ferrum Hypsos, can you use Ferrus Hypsos to power the Singxer-su6? Or do you have any recommendations ? Thank you for your help again sorry for the late reply
Hello Hans. Thank you for your videos. Living in a caravan, I don't have speakers because there is no treatment at all and I lack space. I listen music from my PC with Audirvana on headphones through a Chord Qutest DAC and Audeze LCD-X headphones, I have two headphone amps, a SPL Phonitor One and the Feliks Elise II which is a tube amp. Do you think that the Singxer Audio SU 6 will improve the sound of my little system ? And what is the proper way to connect it to the Qutest ? Through the optical in ? Thank you
I'm no headphone listener and I don't have hands-on experience with the products you mention but I am quite sure the Singxer will improve the sound quality.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you very much Hans
High praise👍🙏
Thanks!
I'd love to hear your opinion on the Gustard U18 if you could get your hands on one for review and the Pi2Designs Mercury streamer is coming out very very soon as well and could be an interesting option as well.
I have not reviewed the U18 so I can't have an opinion on it.
Currently running a Matrix X-Sabre 2 powered by a 6V SBooster between my roon rock nuc and Rockna Wavelight via I2S. Thinking I can further improve the sound I was thinking at this much praised SU6 or the AudioGD DI20HE, especially the latter since it is suppose to have a better power supply.
I know that you have a relation with Magna, maybe you could test one…
Cheers Hans, and great content as always!
How. come that you people always point me to devices I have not reviewed😁
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel well, we appreciate the ones that you do review but I suppose it's only normal to suggest others that we think of and might be comparable... aren't comparisons the click makers in this business? :)
I know, I know😁
Please excuse my ignorance. I’m not sure what this device is and what it’s doing. Is it a digital to digital converter, a network bridge, an audio bridge (assuming there’s a difference), a power supply or …? And what was it designed to accomplish ?
I can’t explain it more clearly than I did in the video.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelWell, I listened to the video again. The video title calls it an audio bridge. But the statement at 11:55 tells me it's a DDC made to clean up USB signals and not a bridge after all. I hope I've got that right.
Tha manufacturer calls it an usb bridge. The général name is DDC
@@greenbeginner9221 You can call it an USB Interface. Hence, you are playing digital music via USB connection which is why the only input is USB.
Search for i2s and ps audio. You will understand the audio signals
Im at the point of considering a bridge/streamer. I currently use Audirvana Studio Kernel Streaming mode plugged into a Chord Qutest which is Galvanically isolated. How does my set up compare? Would I also benefit doing it the way you suggest in the video? Many Thanks
I’m sure it will improve the sound quality
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you very much for your reply. Im going to look into it. Glad to see your health has improved : )
Does the SU 6 simultaneously output SPDIF on both coax and BNC like my Allo DigiOne, and does it successfully pass MQA signaling from Roon over SPDIF to your Brooklyn DAC?
yes it does and yes it does.
Hans, did you ever use this with the CHORD M-SCALER and CHORD DAVE combo? Do you think it would add, or does the M-SCALER eliminate the need for the bridge? If needed would I hook it into the BNC/SPIF input?
Might be needed if you connect the Singxer directly to the PC. I rather use a network bridge or streamer.
Thank you for the review.
As the NUC and simple RPI (both with low quality of USB signal) showed the same high quality output from the DDC.
Would the sound benefit from pairing this DDC with e.g. Allo usbridge signature? Or the streamer would need to be even higher quality? Or you can throw anything at this DDC, the quality of the sound would be the same?
Im also interested
Hi hans! Briliant review and thank you for all the content :) Question:
I am currently running audirvana on a pc through a sonore ultrarendu connected with ethernet cable and then a supra usb cable from the ultrarendu to the Rme adi 2 dac. Would it make sense/a difference to place the Singxer or any other DDC in between the ultrarendu and the Rme dac? Or is it unnecessary considering I already have a streamer in the chain? Thank you ♥️
I have not reviewed the UltraRendu so I can't say.
Hi Hans, I wonder if you could give your opinion on the quality of audio using a Pi into the Singer su6 VS using the SOTM SMS 200 ultra neo. In my case both would go to Mytek Brooklyn. I ask because I know you have experience of all of these. Thanks
Always use the best digital source and then don't lose the quality on the way. I have no experience using the Pi into the Singxer, I not even try. The USB output of the Pi is polluted and not stable enough. I used the Pi with the USBridge Sig card and dual power supply. I am sure the Singxer will improve the sound quality when using a Pi, but you better invest in a quality HAT board like the USBridge fist.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks Hans for your advice
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Hi Hans, I just watched your singxer SU6 video again and I thought you tried a Pi (with no HAT) into the Singxer and found that the Singxer sounded very good. Have I missed something?
Can I use this device for my Mac mini / Nad M33?
Yes, connect a USB cable between the Mac mini and the Singxer and an AES/EBU cable between the Mac mini and the NAD M33. Use a quality 110Ω AES/EBU cable. Second best choice is a 75Ω SPDIF cable.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel You mean aes/ebu between Singxer and M33?
Sorry, yes
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks for the information! 👍🏻
Can I also use the SU2?
Thanks for the Video Hans, let me suggest to test also another very interesting DDS the Gustard U18. And another suggestion is to use the I2S interface with DAC, looks more interesting. With my Rockna Wavelight sounded very good
Thanks for the tip!
I ignored your standing advice and connected my Mac Mini M1 running Roon Core directly to the DAC in my powered speakers. I wanted a minimal hardware setup for my desktop. I was shopping for a higher quality USB cable (Audioquest Carbon) and a USB filter (iFi iPurifier3) when your video notice popped up. I now have another option to examine, but I don't think the DAC in the Vanatoo T1E speakers will benefit from it.
I don’t know your speakers so I can’t say.
Hans, how about showing some Gustard love? lol. I run a Gustard U18 DDC between Roon and a Gustard X26pro and I can say the U18 makes a great DAC sound even greater DAC. The U18 for $499 USD is an amazing value and at that price point I don't see any DDC besting it. Love your channel and thanks for your content!
Hm, the question is can SU 6 beat U18 ?
@@igorkrajnc5915 Interesting question but the SU 6 is also 40% more costly than the U18. I doubt it's 40% better! Maybe Hans can get a U18 and do a comparison!
@@prova85 i think the real test would be to test DDC with DAC at 3000 - 4000 $ .
@@igorkrajnc5915 U18 made immediate noticeable improvement with my $1500 X26pro. And I find it gets better as it burns in more. But also think it would benefit something like a Holo May or Denefrips Terminator 2. See no reason it would not. Wish I had the $$$$ to test! Also note U18 uses newer XMOS SU218 chip vs SU 6 using older SU208. Why spend 40% more and get older chip?
I’m going to run my BlueSound node (2021) via usb output to the su6 or gustard a18 DDCs and then into my Dac via I2S.
I have the U18. See my comment above. Great bang for the DDC buck. I love mine. I had their U16 but the U18 is a big step up from that. You won't be sorry if you get one.
Great idea as the bluesound has one of the best interfaces and user experience. Would love to hear feedback! As a question, which DAC do you have ?
@@prova85 Hi are you using the U18 with the stock fuse? I put in the Synergistic Purple fuse based on recommendation from forums in mine and it's been fantastic. What output are you using and have you tried external clock yet?
@@kevtn8 Actually been using the U18 with a Gustard fuse for a couple of months. Replaced the basic fuse it came with and the upgraded one made a nice difference. Since Gustard sells them you'd think they'd put them in their top products like the U18 and X26Pro. Yesterday, as a matter of fact, I put an SR Purple that has about 160hrs burn in time on it in my X26Pro DAC. I wanted to not really listen to until it had some good hours on it. Noticeable difference from the upgraded Gustard fuse that I also had been using in the DAC. The Purple is not coming out. :) I use Roon to upsample/convert to DSD and I am using the I²S output to my X26Pro. Last week I installed a Purple fuse in my amp and wow what a difference that made. I was skeptical of those fuses especially for what they cost but I'm keeping the 2 I have and will be ordering a Purple for my U18. No external clock for me. The Gustard clock costs as much as what I paid for the X26Pro. I have a hard time cost justifying the difference I would hear with it especially after how the fuses affected my system.
@@prova85 Kenny that's great to hear. I've never tried aftermarket fuse before but I'm believer now. Yeah Gustard internal clock was one of main reasons I went with it. No other DDC at this price is using such expensive clock. My unit is still burning in but the midrange and voices are pretty amazing on this. Enjoy your system.
Must ask as I do not understand, why HDMI outputs if there is not HDMI input, only USB? I know there are no "dumb" questions but I must be missing something. Can this device internally convert USB in to HDMI out ??? Thanks in advance.
No! It’s not hdmi. It’s I²S which is a different digital audio signal. It just uses hdmi cables for they are of high quality.
So no matter how high end your dac is, still connecting it straight to your PC is strongly advised against.
NO. Always use a DDC, network bridge or network player.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Yes sir. I ordered the su 6 and going to pair it with a smsl vmv D2. Hopefully one day you can review it.
@@Leo-yn5fx I second that request for an SMSL VMV D2 review.
I’ll see if I can get a review sample.
@@cablebrain9691 I own it and it is night and day compared to offerings like the ares II, or anything from topping.
I have a Dell All in One Core I5 computer hooked directly to a SMSL SU9 dac. I run Jriver in FLAC with every thing upsampled to 24bit 192khz. Everything I play from JRiver I have the actual CD and can do an immediate comparison. I find that the sound between the CD and FLAC is almost identical. I can stream at CD quality or High Res off Amazon HD. I find the quality to be near FLAC but I can tell a difference. Do you think I could benefit from a product like this review. I feel I am not hearing any noise from my computer, but you don't know what you don't know. Thanks
It’s not audible as analog noise, it disturbs the d/a conversion and so make the sound harsh, the lows poor and sibilant.
I thought a good dac takes care of cleaning up anything that colors sound?
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Als ik Uw uitleg min of meer begrepen heb, is dit toestel alleen nuttig wanneer je muziek op je computer hebt staan. Ik gebruik mijn Ipad en mijn Macbook om muziek te streamen met Spotify en Apple Music in cd kwaliteit naar mijn hoofdtelefoon en mijn Marantz streamer receiver. Ik maak wel gebruik van dragonfly cobalt usb dac waarin een opschoning zit van de usb output. Of heb ik review totaal verkeerd begrepen?
Groeten Ludo België
Dit apparaat is voor stereo’s van een hogere kwaliteit
In reality there are very few DACs that don't benefit from a "cleaner" digital input.
Where is it sold?
See the links below the video
I did not know of the existence of ddc. very interesting topic! I am fascinated by the fact that in this digital music world much has stll to come.. In the meanwhile I'm enjoyng my Aires G2.1 digital transport! 😉 Thanks Hans!!
You don't need a DDC!!
😄 yes for shure!
Impressive my good man, thank you.
Thank you. Enjoy the music