@@Godofthunder012 you can always recover and re spec as long as you have all those mastery’s unlocked but some of them are expensive to unlock and you have to spend units on the cores.
@@claybornetaylor76 unfortunately I don’t have those ones so I can’t say for sure ;( I would guess/hope that they have decent PI boost because of the tier they are at, similar to assassin and deep wounds but it might not be
I'm curious what the ratio of suicides to willpower regen is, wondering if it'd be worth investing in some but keeping it to a level where Willpower prevents the damage from actually killing me
Oh i think that’s the rank of the players top 5 champs based on PI modified by masteries and stuff.. I don’t think it means a whole lot really tho.. no impact on the actually game
I am a conquerer. I just unlocked will power, Greater cruelty, recovery, stupify, stand your ground with a lot of unit by grinding. But how does recovery help? My top champs are 5 star apocalypse, 4 star maxed corvus, odin, ghost,warlock. These champs are not who regen alot. So recovery can not help can it? If I max salve it only heals 4 health. So will it increase cause of recovery?
Salve is not a very strong mastery. Recover does increase salve a little. But if you have willpower, you regen when debuffs are on you recover will help with that as well. Warlock does have regen on sp3, but more so in the future you’ll get champs that have more regen and it’ll really be hellful
Depends if you like to use suicides or not, usually when I take them off I put a couple more points into the other offensive slots but mostly put the extra into getting mystic dispersion active
@Doruk Tan Öztürk it’s the top right tree of masteries in the offensive mastery section, with recoil, liquid courage, double edge. People call it “suicides” because it hurts you, but I try to call it the recoil tree or damage masteries now
I recently added a second point to pacify, that I got from courage (not @ only 1), PI increased, but I don't see much difference in damage to be honest... I still don't know if this was a right choice though
I think it honestly makes such minimal difference in terms of damage it’s more a preference. Also keep in mind, your PI has nothing to do with how much damage you will do, it’s very possible to increase your PI and actually decrease your damage potential. It will vary for champions too, like cruelty at max will help ghost and Corvus do more damage because of guaranteed crits so if you take a couple points out of that, they will lose a lot of damage while other champions might not notice it as much. Pacify is a nice mastery to have for certain situations but it’s kind of not needed in many situations and some champions can basically do what it does easier
@@thegrindmcoc7966 Yes, I know, I did more for utility, to be honest, I try to find the "perfect" balance since I use a variety of champs, Even without suicides (the 6-8 extra points) it's still a puzzle what's exactly what I need lol
Yea haha it’s definitely customizable which I like! I actually took 1 point out of parry since it didn’t seem that necessary and it lets me get a bit more in the offensive tree when I want to run mystic dispersion
@@Elseworlds haha yea it’s not ideal, but I usually run suicides OR mystic dispersion, both with max deep wounds. I don’t try heavily on mystics but several I enjoy so it’s nice to have the added MD, but mostly it’s what I run for war season (no suicides, but turn on MD to make my mystics harder to handle)
It’s a minimal difference, but for R3 6* with higher health pools it starts to be more noticeable- example. 35k health the difference would be 35 HP per second difference from 2 to 3
Depending on how active you are, yes it can take a while haha. I was never too interested in suicides because of smaller roster previously but in this past year I ended up going for it. Even free to play, since I spend time in arena and play a fair bit, I do enjoy having suicides on sometimes :)
It’s definitely expensive to fully open up your masteries, you just have to keep chipping away with time and try to buy the mastery core deals when they come around 1-2 times per year
You know I’m not certain about the impact the higher tier defense masteries give. From what I’ve seen it’s not as significant but some of them are definitely helpful to many champions
But some people are intense arena grinders or just want to see big numbers, and want to know specifically how to maximize that - thus the video :) can’t really make a “best mastery set up overall” cause like you said it’s node/content specific
Thanks for the tips. I tweaked mine a little but the improvements got my maxed duped 4s into the 7,000 range. Thanks again and subscribed
Awesome! Happy it helped, and thanks for the sub!
Bro My 4s maxed herc is only 6,000 range 😢😢😢
@@thegrindmcoc7966 Bro I am 🤏 this close to become uncollected and Can I recover myastries and set up as u said , and can I get the pi boost???????
@@Godofthunder012 you can always recover and re spec as long as you have all those mastery’s unlocked but some of them are expensive to unlock and you have to spend units on the cores.
@@thegrindmcoc7966 Thanks bro
I consider myself a mid-level player, by completion of 7.2, and I found this informative.
Awesome! I’m happy it was helpful! Congrats on completing 7.2!
@@thegrindmcoc7966 quick question, have you tested if there a significant increase in PI for inequity and resonate?
@@claybornetaylor76 unfortunately I don’t have those ones so I can’t say for sure ;( I would guess/hope that they have decent PI boost because of the tier they are at, similar to assassin and deep wounds but it might not be
Did you finished 7.3 already ?
I completed it, but working on exploration :)
I believe there's no PI boost after the 1st level of Courage. The same goes for 2nd level of Stand Your Ground
I'm curious what the ratio of suicides to willpower regen is, wondering if it'd be worth investing in some but keeping it to a level where Willpower prevents the damage from actually killing me
Lovely video. So what does the strongest champion ranking signify?
You mean in the filter section when looking at your champions? Or when looking at the leader board?
@@thegrindmcoc7966 the leader board. Looks pretty confusing tbh
Oh i think that’s the rank of the players top 5 champs based on PI modified by masteries and stuff.. I don’t think it means a whole lot really tho.. no impact on the actually game
@@thegrindmcoc7966 tq mate:)
I am a conquerer. I just unlocked will power, Greater cruelty, recovery, stupify, stand your ground with a lot of unit by grinding. But how does recovery help? My top champs are 5 star apocalypse, 4 star maxed corvus, odin, ghost,warlock. These champs are not who regen alot. So recovery can not help can it? If I max salve it only heals 4 health. So will it increase cause of recovery?
Salve is not a very strong mastery. Recover does increase salve a little. But if you have willpower, you regen when debuffs are on you recover will help with that as well. Warlock does have regen on sp3, but more so in the future you’ll get champs that have more regen and it’ll really be hellful
@@thegrindmcoc7966 thanks. Getting will power was thought. 1k units by God. It took 2.5k units for these masteried
Yea good profess so far! Great investment .)
@@thegrindmcoc7966 and how does stand your ground actually help?
@@thegrindmcoc7966 it just says resist block but. I can't understand it . Does it increase chances of our block not breaking? What's the use of it?
What is a good setup for regular mastery’s?
Depends if you like to use suicides or not, usually when I take them off I put a couple more points into the other offensive slots but mostly put the extra into getting mystic dispersion active
@@thegrindmcoc7966 Thank you
@Doruk Tan Öztürk it’s the top right tree of masteries in the offensive mastery section, with recoil, liquid courage, double edge. People call it “suicides” because it hurts you, but I try to call it the recoil tree or damage masteries now
I have coagulate 2/3 but my pi didn’t even move do I need to max coagulate ??
I recently added a second point to pacify, that I got from courage (not @ only 1), PI increased, but I don't see much difference in damage to be honest... I still don't know if this was a right choice though
I think it honestly makes such minimal difference in terms of damage it’s more a preference. Also keep in mind, your PI has nothing to do with how much damage you will do, it’s very possible to increase your PI and actually decrease your damage potential. It will vary for champions too, like cruelty at max will help ghost and Corvus do more damage because of guaranteed crits so if you take a couple points out of that, they will lose a lot of damage while other champions might not notice it as much. Pacify is a nice mastery to have for certain situations but it’s kind of not needed in many situations and some champions can basically do what it does easier
@@thegrindmcoc7966 Yes, I know, I did more for utility, to be honest, I try to find the "perfect" balance since I use a variety of champs, Even without suicides (the 6-8 extra points) it's still a puzzle what's exactly what I need lol
Yea haha it’s definitely customizable which I like! I actually took 1 point out of parry since it didn’t seem that necessary and it lets me get a bit more in the offensive tree when I want to run mystic dispersion
@@thegrindmcoc7966 I m very happy I don't rely on mystics, I would ve had a lot of trouble trying to figure out where to get the points from hahaha
@@Elseworlds haha yea it’s not ideal, but I usually run suicides OR mystic dispersion, both with max deep wounds. I don’t try heavily on mystics but several I enjoy so it’s nice to have the added MD, but mostly it’s what I run for war season (no suicides, but turn on MD to make my mystics harder to handle)
Do you think it's worth having 3 points in willpower? i run two points in willpower. is three points really that big a difference?
It’s a minimal difference, but for R3 6* with higher health pools it starts to be more noticeable- example. 35k health the difference would be 35 HP per second difference from 2 to 3
@@thegrindmcoc7966 Thanks! Really helpful. i don't have any 6*'s i want to rank 2. let alone rank 3. i'll keep working on my 5/55's.
Yea don’t stress too much about 6*, in many ways 5* are better to rank up until you have them higher sig or you’re able to take them to r3
I dont have enough stuff for the extra stuff like liquid courage but bro u made my pi lower💀
It’s meant to build around liquid courage double edge, and the rest is how I suggest making the most of the masteries you have left
How much is the recovery mastery ?
I don’t remember the cost I’m sorry.. you should be able to find all the mastery costs on auntm.ai
thanks...but as a ftp player this might take me a really long time to get all this done haha
Depending on how active you are, yes it can take a while haha. I was never too interested in suicides because of smaller roster previously but in this past year I ended up going for it. Even free to play, since I spend time in arena and play a fair bit, I do enjoy having suicides on sometimes :)
@@thegrindmcoc7966 ah well that’s good to know
I’ll grind my way to get my masteries just like yours
Thanks🙏🏾
No problem! Happy to help :) I am free to play, but I’m not that casual haha so even my situations aren’t comparable to all F2P players
Can you drop a good mastery where attack rating of champ is high and pi also ?
That would essentially be the same set up as here with many of the attack boosting Masteries also involved in max PI
@@thegrindmcoc7966 So if I go with this mastery of yours will I see attack change in game ?
No the opponents Attack stats doesn’t change but the damage your champions so with be higher, you might want all 5 cruelty though
How do I get a mastery point recovery??
It’s free, there is a button at the bottom of each mastery page :)
@@thegrindmcoc7966 Oh My god, you are you so fast how?? You made this 4 years ago dude. Respect and thanks👊🏽
Fast at what? Haha this isn’t 4 years old tho. Happy to help tho!
are u suing a boost just asking?
Not for purposes of the video
@@thegrindmcoc7966 its just that i never seen a 5 star doom at 17k
@@thegrindmcoc7966 but ur not right?
@@mathiasdurango1652 no there should be no boosts
@@thegrindmcoc7966 wow never seen a 17k doom as a 5 star thanks tho
I’m a cavalier and im still with max rank 5* with 12,000 PI, since all of this is so confusing.(mostly expensive because i dont have many units)
It’s definitely expensive to fully open up your masteries, you just have to keep chipping away with time and try to buy the mastery core deals when they come around 1-2 times per year
Does max recoil increase PI ?
That i actually don’t know, I don’t know many people that actually use max recoil
+78.7% pi is the best I can get
That’s great!
What about defense
You know I’m not certain about the impact the higher tier defense masteries give. From what I’ve seen it’s not as significant but some of them are definitely helpful to many champions
Can u do an update vid? I
This ones pretty recent with all the same Masteries, was there something specific you feel needs updating ?
Don't like using suicide
Yea it’s definitely not for everyone. I miss them when they’re off, and regret them when they’re on 🤪
Name the masteries to give point in offence for high pi
This suicide set up?
Yes it is primarily the recoil tree (suicide) set up and then you can customize the extra mastery points how ever you like
Lmbo! Really? The masteries are all content but arena. Masteries are to counter NODES and there are NO NODES IN ARENAS. LOL!
But some people are intense arena grinders or just want to see big numbers, and want to know specifically how to maximize that - thus the video :) can’t really make a “best mastery set up overall” cause like you said it’s node/content specific
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