I realized after I recorded this that I'd made the mistake of leaving off Red Hulk from Science in Tier 3, but I also think he will be a quick promotion back to Tier 2 when he releases as a 7*, given how important challenge rating and stat focus will be to how he finishes fights.
As someone who lives vicariously through high tier war videos(too stressful for me), I'm really excited to hear your thoughts. I'm guessing to do the same from a defensive POV might offer too much insight for your opponents, but that would also be really interesting. 7* Red Hulk sounds awesome...
It's less about the insight and more about the million permutations haha. I could talk for hours on a panel with three other smart people and then other alliances would probably still disagree 😂 Maybe someday
Great video. Always appreciate your insights. Just took my gladiator up to rank 3 after completing SOS gauntlet since I run path 3. Got him up to a high sig as well. Really looking forward to trying him out 18:16
Since I don't have a lot of good clarity champs ranked up, I've been using my 6 star rank 5 ascended hit-monkey and he has been doing OK, I think it's mostly because he nukes fights, but still I've liked him this season
It's definitely not a one to one given how much placement matters, and it can actually hurt you to follow t1 too closely, but... I'll think about it. Could probably work something out without getting too much into placement
Ive been running Naga on path 7 in war. its usually littered with skill champs because they shrug off debuffs and activate the nodes. shes easily been an mvp for my path over the last season. shes not the fastest but the name of the game is dont die. she is the best counter ever to most of the problem skill fights in tier 1.
I wanna ask about sersi. She's working for me excellently on hazard shift, she does enough damage to where you can finish fights at around 40 to 50 seconds, she synergises really well with power back, she's great for red skulls on hazard shift specifically (then again mordo 😏) I'd say she's tier 3 still, but I was wondering on your thoughts on ber
@@Daddylonglegs93 Lol 😆 😂 I do like having both it can be hard to line up trying to put the Incinerate on when Opponents have no power into a Faulter into an Sp2 its a short window and tough to get in high stress situations but he's been really good for me in War I think the 7* will be here to stay and be a great champ for a long time.
Curious why mutant champs are not being assigned in war, only 3 "must haves". There are a lot of skill defenders why aren't mutant champs assigned for those?
Mutants are being assigned. You're misinterpreting the list on a couple levels, but the main thing is that tier 2 doesn't mean "not assigned," it just means you're not in trouble if you don't have them. There are a lot of reasons for this, but one of the biggest is how dominant Onslaught is, which does not at all translate to mutants not being used.
@@Daddylonglegs93Looks like there is no diversity in the mutant class. Also Skill defenders right now don't need a mutant attacker, any class can do it. Wonder why dust is in tier 2 with all her immunities and utility. From what I see mutant attackers don't take on classes other than skill and even for skill other classes can handle them. Sad times for mutant class.
Knull in tier 2 is criminal, I know it's your opinion but as the owner of r3 s200 knull, he does so much more than any one on that list of cosmics. He outright ignores the defense tactic and you can run him with recoils. I have been doing 450k hp fights in 45s with just recoils and small boosts. I hardly get to do my sp1-sp2 rotation. Fights are over after 2x sp1. Only bosses require sp2
Can someone or even DLL himself explain why spiderman 2099 is such an good attacker like that. There is not enough video about him proving how worth he is. Could you do a video about him, DLL?
There are tons of war videos of him out there. Many are just older. I don't think Stranz is still uploading, but he has good ones from a while ago with text explanations, and Clownius Clown maintains a channel that should have some recent stuff. In short, he's a buff immune with very powerful ability power rate reduction on his base, and with the Anti-Venom synergy allowing him to start with a wither, he basically becomes science Valkyrie.
i recently r3d Venom 7*.. that bulls eye boss fight from the past season got me Unlucky because he spam sp1 even im not baiting his sps and push him to sp3 invulnerability triggers rinse repeat btw i watched Lagacy always taking that fight perfectly
I was surprised to see Sam Wilson in tier 3. I feel like his design was tailor made for war with all the utility he has. Is his damage lacking that much?
I can't stop you if you want to share, but I generally advise against it, because if I did end up working on him in the future and used a mechanic that bore even a passing resemblance to a fan idea, whether by inspiration or coincidence, there might be some expectation of credit or even royalties, and that's a kind of awkwardness better avoided.
I realized after I recorded this that I'd made the mistake of leaving off Red Hulk from Science in Tier 3, but I also think he will be a quick promotion back to Tier 2 when he releases as a 7*, given how important challenge rating and stat focus will be to how he finishes fights.
As someone who lives vicariously through high tier war videos(too stressful for me), I'm really excited to hear your thoughts. I'm guessing to do the same from a defensive POV might offer too much insight for your opponents, but that would also be really interesting. 7* Red Hulk sounds awesome...
It's less about the insight and more about the million permutations haha. I could talk for hours on a panel with three other smart people and then other alliances would probably still disagree 😂
Maybe someday
@@Daddylonglegs93you’d be amazed how many would watch or listen to that.
DLL is about to keep me company on my 10k run tonight!
Great video. Always appreciate your insights. Just took my gladiator up to rank 3 after completing SOS gauntlet since I run path 3. Got him up to a high sig as well. Really looking forward to trying him out 18:16
Since I don't have a lot of good clarity champs ranked up, I've been using my 6 star rank 5 ascended hit-monkey and he has been doing OK, I think it's mostly because he nukes fights, but still I've liked him this season
I’m glad you agree Luke is crazy for war. He’s so sick for so many fights, even without tactic.
DLL has a very nice format, it's like Vega inverse tier list since the rows and columns switched
Can’t wait to watch and listen to this one.
7 star red hulk foreshadowing ? Yessir
Haha "when" doesn't necessarily mean "soon"
Im gonna be taking my r3 Shocker for any Onslaughts for sure! 😄
*sees 5-Star Quake/Magik assigned in 2024*
My brother in Christ just learn the fight
Gorr is working very well this meta also.
Wait wtf. How did I miss Gorr?? Thanks for this one, he's definitely t3 but working like a t2 this meta haha.
Can you please do a defenders version of this list for us low level war planners? I’d love to get insight in what the big leaguers think.
It's definitely not a one to one given how much placement matters, and it can actually hurt you to follow t1 too closely, but... I'll think about it. Could probably work something out without getting too much into placement
Ngl Sandman not being at least a t3 champ was kind of surprising.
Overall though, thank you. Always love listening to your thoughts on this stuff
Sandman is in t2 haha. But thanks.
@@Daddylonglegs93 Am i exceedingly blind? I don't see him there...
You are not. My app opened the wrong one lol. Sorry about that! I added him to t3 because I agree he should at least be there.
Ive been running Naga on path 7 in war. its usually littered with skill champs because they shrug off debuffs and activate the nodes. shes easily been an mvp for my path over the last season. shes not the fastest but the name of the game is dont die. she is the best counter ever to most of the problem skill fights in tier 1.
We Luke Maxxing with this one!
I wanna ask about sersi.
She's working for me excellently on hazard shift, she does enough damage to where you can finish fights at around 40 to 50 seconds, she synergises really well with power back, she's great for red skulls on hazard shift specifically (then again mordo 😏)
I'd say she's tier 3 still, but I was wondering on your thoughts on ber
Yeah she's definitely a fair add for t3. I'll do that. Tactic inflates her a bit, but she'll do work generally
My only problem with Prowler is why is his whole kit passives except his incinerate lol? That always confused me with his kit lol.
It's the optional part lol
@@Daddylonglegs93 Lol 😆 😂 I do like having both it can be hard to line up trying to put the Incinerate on when Opponents have no power into a Faulter into an Sp2 its a short window and tough to get in high stress situations but he's been really good for me in War I think the 7* will be here to stay and be a great champ for a long time.
Curious why mutant champs are not being assigned in war, only 3 "must haves". There are a lot of skill defenders why aren't mutant champs assigned for those?
Mutants are being assigned. You're misinterpreting the list on a couple levels, but the main thing is that tier 2 doesn't mean "not assigned," it just means you're not in trouble if you don't have them. There are a lot of reasons for this, but one of the biggest is how dominant Onslaught is, which does not at all translate to mutants not being used.
@@Daddylonglegs93Looks like there is no diversity in the mutant class. Also Skill defenders right now don't need a mutant attacker, any class can do it.
Wonder why dust is in tier 2 with all her immunities and utility. From what I see mutant attackers don't take on classes other than skill and even for skill other classes can handle them. Sad times for mutant class.
@harryatomix that is not what I said, but it sounds like you'll hear what you want to
u put shocker in tier1 just to prevent me from ranking him down huh
Knull in tier 2 is criminal, I know it's your opinion but as the owner of r3 s200 knull, he does so much more than any one on that list of cosmics. He outright ignores the defense tactic and you can run him with recoils. I have been doing 450k hp fights in 45s with just recoils and small boosts. I hardly get to do my sp1-sp2 rotation. Fights are over after 2x sp1. Only bosses require sp2
this isnt a tierlist for this saga
@@wwilliamtb710 uhh read title?
William is correct - the video specifically says the actual placements are tactic-agnostic. You must have missed that
Can someone or even DLL himself explain why spiderman 2099 is such an good attacker like that. There is not enough video about him proving how worth he is. Could you do a video about him, DLL?
There are tons of war videos of him out there. Many are just older. I don't think Stranz is still uploading, but he has good ones from a while ago with text explanations, and Clownius Clown maintains a channel that should have some recent stuff.
In short, he's a buff immune with very powerful ability power rate reduction on his base, and with the Anti-Venom synergy allowing him to start with a wither, he basically becomes science Valkyrie.
i recently r3d Venom 7*.. that bulls eye boss fight from the past season got me Unlucky because he spam sp1 even im not baiting his sps and push him to sp3 invulnerability triggers rinse repeat btw i watched Lagacy always taking that fight perfectly
I was surprised to see Sam Wilson in tier 3. I feel like his design was tailor made for war with all the utility he has. Is his damage lacking that much?
Simply, yes. His design is great, but he doesn't do enough damage to be worth assigning if he's punching up at all, and that limits him.
Yeah....I can see that....that's why I made him my first r2 champ and, just yesterday, took him to r3 to become valiant!
@teebleezy8466 that's awesome! I do still really like him
Long wait :)
Can I propose my idea for the lizard to you?
I can't stop you if you want to share, but I generally advise against it, because if I did end up working on him in the future and used a mechanic that bore even a passing resemblance to a fan idea, whether by inspiration or coincidence, there might be some expectation of credit or even royalties, and that's a kind of awkwardness better avoided.
@43:50 And still we got Northstar who sucks at every place other than long form.
He doesn't suck, he just doesn't outperform most of the Mutants outside of that content.
Something is bound to come eventually for him to run through
Me when salty send quake to onslaught
me when dab west
@@wwilliamtb710 me when Billiam
Oh heck yeah today is a good day
Love the list butttttt 😂😂😂😂 just kidding