This is the best description I’ve ever heard of what medicine is actually like. The description of the futility of the tick-box nature of surgical training is also spot-on. I’ve just moved to Australia, and seeing how they train surgeons has shown me that the problem is an international one. The system here rewards nepotism and is much less defined than in the UK and Ireland, where at least you know the boxes you have to tick and are less commonly left in limbo. Also couldn’t agree more re intervention of medical students. Excellent stuff
Hi Burton.....I really enjoyed the video....quite informative.... excellent content.....I am your daily viewer and loves the way you explain the complex stuffs .....thanks 👍 for being with us
As a medical student, it does slightly depress me about the whole tick box exercise for speciality training. I think other specialities (other than surgery) are probably just as bad e.g. the whole FICM OSCE mess.
It's a poor state of affairs, and I personally suspect that a lot of it is to do with filtering out applicants rather than selecting for actively good ones. I don't understand how a surgical trainee who has fewer hours in theatre but has done 6 audits is a better candidate but here we are.
Totally irrelevant but you really suit the high neck top you're wearing. I just watched your video on the software OSCER. Seems like such great technology!
Hi Ollie 👋🏼, an aspiring postgraduate medical student here. Thanks for such an informative video! That’s a shame that the UK surgical training system is kinda broken. It’s quite often that I hear more junior doctors complaining about the lack of hands on experience when it comes to their speciality training. It’s interesting and intriguing how on one hand there’s lack of staff in the NHS but on the other hand there’s staff competing to get hands on on a patient case. It’s a difficult unbalance to understand in my opinion… what are your thoughts?
So on the surgical ward there will be a theatre list every day and usually a consultant surgeon will be doing these operations. However registrars need to check these operative procedures off their list to be able to qualify as a consultant further down the line. So the operations will be done by a consultant unless the registrars somehow manage to get all their administrative tasks on the wards done in time to be able to do the surgery under supervision. Basically there aren’t enough doctors to complete all the administrative tasks on the wards to be able to allow registrars the time to be able to do surgeries and when there is a quiet morning or afternoon, there will be several registrars competing with each other to get the experience.
@@rebecafaria2051 no worries! It’s an NHS wide issue that is hard to properly understand until you are on the wards and seeing it with your own eyes. Something definitely needs to change that’s for sure!
I 2nd year med student in Shanghai medical university .....Thanks for helping me accomplish my goal....do we have any other platform to connect ....for q and a
Hi Ollie! I just wondered if you would ask consultants questions about things you're not sure about? I heard there is some toxic culture existing where junior doctors wouldn't ask senior doctors questions unless they already know the answers 😂, as an American surgeon told me.
Hey William! I absolutely would, although in all honesty I usually try to speak to the registrars first purely because I know them better. In practice 99% of consultants would just give you an answer if it's clear you just want some help.
Medicine in Czech Republic is more or less the same thing. Just getting those tick boxes in attendance and hardly getting any chance to gain any meaningful experience.
@@pikusarker1359 Very many years given that I have around £85,000 of student loan debt. However in the UK the government takes a small percentage of your earnings above a threshold of around £20,000. At the moment I pay £75 a month back on my loans, which is negligible.
@@pikusarker1359 The starting salary for a consultant is £84,559. This would rise to £101,432 after 9 years working as a consultant in the NHS. It typically takes around 10-12 years after medical school to reach consultant level in most specialties, so let's say 21 years after MBBS you could be earning £100,000
This is the best description I’ve ever heard of what medicine is actually like. The description of the futility of the tick-box nature of surgical training is also spot-on. I’ve just moved to Australia, and seeing how they train surgeons has shown me that the problem is an international one. The system here rewards nepotism and is much less defined than in the UK and Ireland, where at least you know the boxes you have to tick and are less commonly left in limbo. Also couldn’t agree more re intervention of medical students. Excellent stuff
Hi. Nice to hear your appreciation of all other health workers, especially PAs. When you start practising we all need each other.
Hi Burton.....I really enjoyed the video....quite informative.... excellent content.....I am your daily viewer and loves the way you explain the complex stuffs .....thanks 👍 for being with us
Dr Ollie, thanks for basically delineating the hustle behind the man. Facts. Always brilliant and honest content.
My pleasure!
As a medical student, it does slightly depress me about the whole tick box exercise for speciality training. I think other specialities (other than surgery) are probably just as bad e.g. the whole FICM OSCE mess.
It's a poor state of affairs, and I personally suspect that a lot of it is to do with filtering out applicants rather than selecting for actively good ones. I don't understand how a surgical trainee who has fewer hours in theatre but has done 6 audits is a better candidate but here we are.
As someone interested in applying for medicine as a mature age student this was very informative 😊
Glad to hear Emma!
Keep up the great great work pal ✨🔥👌
I love your channel ✨
Totally irrelevant but you really suit the high neck top you're wearing. I just watched your video on the software OSCER. Seems like such great technology!
Awesome insight! Thanks for sharing! ;)
Best of luck for FY 2
Hi Ollie 👋🏼, an aspiring postgraduate medical student here. Thanks for such an informative video! That’s a shame that the UK surgical training system is kinda broken. It’s quite often that I hear more junior doctors complaining about the lack of hands on experience when it comes to their speciality training. It’s interesting and intriguing how on one hand there’s lack of staff in the NHS but on the other hand there’s staff competing to get hands on on a patient case. It’s a difficult unbalance to understand in my opinion… what are your thoughts?
So on the surgical ward there will be a theatre list every day and usually a consultant surgeon will be doing these operations. However registrars need to check these operative procedures off their list to be able to qualify as a consultant further down the line. So the operations will be done by a consultant unless the registrars somehow manage to get all their administrative tasks on the wards done in time to be able to do the surgery under supervision. Basically there aren’t enough doctors to complete all the administrative tasks on the wards to be able to allow registrars the time to be able to do surgeries and when there is a quiet morning or afternoon, there will be several registrars competing with each other to get the experience.
@@emmab287 that makes a lot of sense! Thanks for taking the time to explain it! 😊
@@rebecafaria2051 no worries! It’s an NHS wide issue that is hard to properly understand until you are on the wards and seeing it with your own eyes. Something definitely needs to change that’s for sure!
I 2nd year med student in Shanghai medical university .....Thanks for helping me accomplish my goal....do we have any other platform to connect ....for q and a
Tell me about it. It is very chaotic.
Please Ollie, I think i speak for every on here, ramble away😂
Hi Ollie! I just wondered if you would ask consultants questions about things you're not sure about? I heard there is some toxic culture existing where junior doctors wouldn't ask senior doctors questions unless they already know the answers 😂, as an American surgeon told me.
Hey William! I absolutely would, although in all honesty I usually try to speak to the registrars first purely because I know them better. In practice 99% of consultants would just give you an answer if it's clear you just want some help.
Medicine in Czech Republic is more or less the same thing. Just getting those tick boxes in attendance and hardly getting any chance to gain any meaningful experience.
Muh MDT
Sir how much do you earn as a doctor? Nice video.
At the moment my salary is £28800 per year, about £2100 per month after tax
@@OllieBurtonMed sir how many years will it take for you to pay off all your medical student debt?plz reply. Thanks a lot.
@@pikusarker1359 Very many years given that I have around £85,000 of student loan debt. However in the UK the government takes a small percentage of your earnings above a threshold of around £20,000. At the moment I pay £75 a month back on my loans, which is negligible.
sir one last question when you will earn 100k pound per year at which nhs grade?
@@pikusarker1359 The starting salary for a consultant is £84,559. This would rise to £101,432 after 9 years working as a consultant in the NHS.
It typically takes around 10-12 years after medical school to reach consultant level in most specialties, so let's say 21 years after MBBS you could be earning £100,000