Jonathan Pollard: Torah Requires Constitutional Monarchy
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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As an American, non-Jew (I'm a hardcore Christian), I enjoy listening to this very sober discussion ever time a new video is uploaded. I think you guys know what is best for Israel and I hope things go your way.
thanks cl
You know Jesus would not approve of killing 20,000 children, blowing up his old church in Gza and prosecuting his shepherd.
Who?
The guy who beat up the fig tree because it wasn't in fruit during the season it wasn't supposed to be in fruit? The guy who said you must hate your mother and father before you come to me?
Turning the other cheek is for chumps
Israel has accomplished the lowest civilian to combatant kill ratio in warfare history
Champs buy into Hamas numbers and cheer for barbarians, I'm on the side of civilization.
You aren't who cares what you say?
go team Israel
I like what they said about Democracy. It's interesting.
@@jovandjuric8340war happens.
Greatest Broadcast I've
Ever Heard.For a Long time mirrors All My Thinking Exactly.
I'm a Jew in America who will come to Israel to Campaign for Monarchy. Thank you
Rav and Jonathan for this blessed, Wonderful
Gift.
As an American non-Jew (I'm a FORMER hardcore Christian) who has discovered the truth that Judaism is the correct way not false Christianity. I can't thank you both enough for all that you do and all the information you bring to us, God bless you both, really, really know that you are appreciated, thank you!!
This is very timely indeed and needed to be said. Impatient is how many of us are feeling with Israel’s lack of proper response in this war.
Spot on , from an English viewer.
Unbelievable mess.😮😮
I've been waiting my whole life for this. Thank you!
Todah Rabba! May HaShem increase the likes of you in Eres Yisrael !
Jonathan pollard is a gem, but his skills as a communicator are best utilized by being an influencer, rather than a politician. He will have much more effect that way, as the political system as it stands suppresses dramatic change such as is needed.
Did you even listen to it? Try it again.
Treason ne'er doth prosper. Here's the reason: for if treason doth prosper none dare call it treason.
Jon Harrington
As a Muslim form the GCC we are worried about Iran so we are hoping that Israel can get more western support. Because if Israel fails us Arabs fail. What rocked us was Biden giving funds to Iran. So us Arabs are worried.
Hopefully all will be well and Kamala Harris will never be able to make such decisions.
@@72Yonatan Not happening. Kamala is up 6 points now.
Absolute constitutional Monarchy.
no it does not
@@BijunaJdoes not what, smart pants?
@@samuellulu smart pants yourself.Monarchy means Kingship not constitutional monarchy.
@@BijunaJ you are lawyer or something? Or a kosher rabbi?
@@BijunaJyour understanding of constitution is as sophisticated as GWB Jr. weighed in “it’s just a piece of paper”.
Constitutional monarchy for Israel. Yes please❤
Why not start your own party? Many would support it. Beyond your wildest imagination but you must go on the campaign trail NOW. Continue to wake people up to “reality”, not “news”. You have my vote! ❤️🇮🇱
Moshe Feiglin together with Pollard would be a good team
@@ahavahyisrael
I'll take MF with Natan Sharansky
Still don't know why he got out of politics
Clearly, ruach hakodesh, meaning real connection to Hashem, is required in good leadership. Hashem is getting ready to raise the consciousness of humanity - unfortunately we have to walk through these difficult times in order to understand what we don't want anymore.
Our geulah dream come true! Please may it be soon!
Thank you Jonathan. Always inspiring ideas! Love you brother.
I love JP a true hero
The comments on monarchy are made around 16:00
So 100% JP. Thank you
Jonathan you MUST run with Moshe Faiglin
It would also be good for you to join the panel of Uri Milstein
Yonatan Pollard, you shouldn't apologize for your lack of polished Hebrew. The Torah says that Moses said of himself, "I am Heavy of Mouth and Heavy of Tongue".
Thank you.
Interesting idea - but Biblical Israel was spiritually sustained by prophets and the priesthood. Would such a king be any better than modern Israel's presidents - who you are clearly disappointed by? Or better than Saul, Ahaz or Mannesah?
All of the kings you mentioned were terrible and cruel people.
@@72Yonatanthat's the point
I think talks of a monarchy are ludicrous
1. Why can't there be a constitutional monarchy that will have the Messiah as a king and at the same time have an elected Knesset with a Prime Minister? Yehuda Etzion made a compelling case for combining democracy and monarchy. He talked about it with Yoram Ginsburg, an architect that wants to build the Third Temple, is creating a master plan for Jerusalem, and is creating a master plan for a post-annexation Israel called "TAMA 100".
2. Proportional Representation is way more democratic than First-Past-The-Post, which results in a parliament that doesn't represent the popular vote of the people, a two-party monopoly on politics (ex. Conservative VS Labour; Republican VS Democrat), and reduces competition. Just like in the economy, less competition in politics usually creates worse quality. On the surface level, having local representation seems more democratic but, in reality, those local representatives act as apologists for their party leader, not as independent representatives of their locality. Furthermore, the very existence of local candidates makes it impossible for there to be more than a few viable parties that people would be willing to vote for, since the non-establishment parties would simply result in spoiled ballots. In practice, proportional representation (aka % of popular vote = % of seats in the parliament) gives way more power to the people to influence their country's politics.
3. Democracy is a good thing. I don't see why you would reject it altogether instead of it making it complementary to the Messiah. Saying that "things are not working, so let's get rid of democracy altogether" is just about the worst thing you could say. This is word-by-word the reasoning that enables autocracies to replace democracies. I understand that you believe that monarchies should abide by the law and should not have unlimited power, but your reasoning is flawed.
Netanhayu, with all his faults, in particular, too often giving in to a malevolent Left, is much, more than head and shoulders above any one else with a political base [which is important]. He also does have good points as well.
First we must remember what true Torah really is versus our religion we've developed since Bavli. We must also realize things are bad and our enemies are coming against us because we have failed to obey Ha Kadosh Barchu. And if we were wise we'd have a Kohen gadol instead of a chief Rabbi and instead of a prime minister a king bound by the Torah.
All i said was i appoint Rav as king and Jonathan as advisor to the king what you say?
When we have an anointed King he will want a constitution for the people. He will be a loving King filled with the Holy Spirit that David was filled with.
To show respect and awe, as in the presence of a King who has complete control the words chosen must be carefully found to even open a dialog, where favor or condemnation is at the whim, of the king.
Fear of his power, but also love of his rule. This comes by seeing his court and His kingdom, this ordered matrix, the conduct and countenance perceived from essence, and the people he rules over. This is the form of the essence we use to describe the qualities and attributes. In verbs, allegory symbolism adjectives are like something but do not describe an actuality by personal (accounts), irrefutable evidence of an encounter which will never be attributed to anything, hoped for comes order, rule.
I think you've missed over the constitutional monarchy part of the discussion. There is no fear when the Torah has enscribed the law not a king. You need to rewatch to understand because you are out of your depth.
I seem to remember learning a long time ago that Ben Gurion controlled most or all of the branches or departments of government; could anyone elaborate on that for me?
Differentiating between democracy (understood as mob rule as opposed to rule of few (oligarchy) and rule of one types in an Aristotilian framework) and republic; i think the only (purely) democratic institution Im hard pressed find fault with as a tool in the toolbox ready to call upon is a plebiscite. Because the faces of government have with some degree of apparent humbleness admitted their ignorance/incompetence in regard to this particular issue-- and are begging for wisdom in a way. Great potential in the plebiscite I think. And parliament seems, at least, in a general way, to fit certain nations. Ive often mused on the feasibility of an ethnic or religious parliament-- for example, Ive always been fascinated by the Lebanese confessional system of government-- and not that Ive studied Lebanon much but it seems like most often the overwhelming problem with the government is not being strong enuf to crush the defacto power structure: the cornucopia of Holy Land Arab Nazism which has spread to the rest Arab world in general, to some degree.
what if Moshiach comes out of diaspora / exile.. looking in all the wrong places
He is here in the Land waiting for God to empower him.
@@shiloh1350 proof? why empower, when he is just a normal
man as these men say. no one has a clue really, Hashem hides His hand from the "wise"
Q@@shiloh1350
Suggest revisiting the Magna Carta … the King is not above the law
Unbelievable!!😢😢
I think Rav you as King and Jonathan as your second in command. What you say? The chances are pretty slim🥴
The gains that have been made are in the areas where Israel ignored pressure and moved ahead on its own. Once such a direction is taken and the results are in, those who said no and were prepared to keep worrying at the problem indefinitely are left dealing with a new situation. This gives them something new to resist progress on; but it leaves Israel in a better position, one which essentially sets new rules of engagement. Let's look at one aspect of the situation realistically. The enemy had long ago achieved maximum hate, maximum barbarism, and a maximum effort at international judgment against Israel. There really was no way to get worse treatment. Now, with each additional step forward, there are those who once again give false counsel, advising that this and that and the other thing will get worse. How much worse could it get? The spectrum has been covered. The time is to take action, to leave trepidation behind. One step forward and two steps back will not get us anywhere.
Utube keep on taking my comments away i dont know why
Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
The geulah shleimah cannot come, and will not come, until Israel acknowledges the Yahweh/YHVH/Hashem -- whom they pierced. He is the ultimate and the only real sin offering.
could the houthi assets be part of the "deal"
DONT DO THE CRIME IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME
I wonder how often people respond to old Johnathan with: Are you out of your mind?!😅
He is lunatic. His answer to everything is killing others. Unbelievable.
As he is not living in 21 century. He is stuck in old age 2000 BC
not any rational minded Jewish person would
give BIBI immunity so he can resign
How can the people of Israel live by the Torah if the requirements of all the Torah isn’t taught to all the people and not kept in the yeshivah by these religious people, they don’t carry out any of the Almighty’s orders.
If Israel has to survive its not on the people but on those that actually know his laws.
2million jews have permanently left Israel
@@DeadManWalking4574 that much?
And why permanently?
God bless the nation of Israel.
Jonathan, you have great content, and your assessment is very good. But why create a new word when English already has plenty of fitting vocabulary? Why not just use "oligarchy" instead of creating a word not found in any dictionary - "juristocracy?"
Perhaps no other country has a supreme self appointing judge led situation with deep powerful ties?
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape you answered him perfectly lol the word jonathan said fits. Israel is not a oligarchy.
@machonShilo1 Jonathan Pollard you guys failed to mention when you were talking about Blair reforming the legal system in the UK, was to suit Mrs Blair.... Who just so happens to be a wig wearing member of the judiciary
I can think of nothing more frightening than Israel ruled by halacha.
Torah requires an absolute monarchy. All this “constitutional” nonsense is a product of galut thinking.
TRAITOR
Israel you cant do everything without America. Take the fueling plane you received from America recently, if you didn't have that you had no way to do a strike Iran because planes can't fly that far. Israel you may want to do this and that but reality states different. That is what that man was talking about when he said its complicated.
nonsence
Why is it nonsense?@@kevinrosenberg5458
@@kevinrosenberg5458 I thought so too.
Who fooled you into being such a fool?
@Robert-ty8in what you said is totally ignorant. Israel has a fleet of Re'em Boeing 707 tankers and thanks to military contracts no different then any other country Israel bought from Boeing four new multi-mission KC-46A tankers in 2022. Israel is a sovergn country not an outpost of the USA. Israel has the ability of taking care of itself and should be making efforts to do so rather then creating a co-dependent relationship. Sadly you and people like you have led to this situation
Slim pickings if this hack junior spy is your hero 🎉