What is RANDY ORTON MISSING to be GOAT status? | THE CURIOUS CANVAS
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Peekay and Jem try to dissect why Randy Orton is not regarded as one of the GOAT? What is holding him back from trascending from outside the ring with his Wrestling athelticism, charisma, finisher and championships Peekay gives his take as to why he may not be regarded on the same level as The Rocks and Stone Colds.
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"Randy is probably the greatest wrestler in the history of wrestling." - Bobby Lashley
"There's nobody in the wrestling business or anywhere else that's better than Randy Orton." - Jim Ross
"When he is on and he has an angle, Randy Orton is the single best heel in the business." - Arn Anderson
"Randy is the best worker in the business which is exactly what makes him the no.1 guy." - Ric Flair
"Randy Orton is my no.1 pick for the modern day Mt. Rushmore of wrestling." - Dustin Rhodes
"I have been in the ring with so many greats, but bell to bell there is nobody better than Randy Orton in my era." - Bobby Roode
"Randy Orton may be the best wrestler I've been in the ring with. He knows exactly what he does" - Daniel Bryan
"My match against Randy Orton in 2004 at Backlash is my greatest match of all time. He took me to a level I didn't want to" - Mick Foley
"We genuinely believe that Randy Orton is the greatest wrestler in the world." - FTR
"I recognize Randy as the best natural talent I've been in the ring with and our matches blew Punk-Cena matches out of the water in my opinion." - Christian
"Randy Orton is easily the best worker in the business and someone I look up to a lot." - Baron Corbin
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nothing is holding him back he’s one of the greatest of all time and ppl are starting to see it now
He definitely is an all time great but has he reached The Rock, Stone Cold and Cena status or is he with the Triple H and Ric Flairs?
Start Somewhere Media he’s definitely with the ric flairs and triple H’s of the world but when i think about who are the goats of wrestling i think about promos, in ring ability and storytelling and he’s definitely in the top 10
Thats a very great point you make
@@StartSomewhereMedia just an opinion, he’s easily one of the goats. I think all around he’s better than kenny omega. Kenny’s in ring ability is better (not my opinion just what a lot of ppl believe) . But in ring psychology, promos, storytelling (the storytelling is arguable because kenny is a good story teller in the ring at times) Imo i think randy is better in the ring, majority of ppl will disagree but his style is more believable, plus he has one of the most iconic finishers of all time.
@@StartSomewhereMedia He up there with Triple H but not Shawn Micheals
In my opinion, at this point, he is the greatest wwe wrestler of all time and the best heel ever
I think he's one of the greats too but has he gone outside of wrestling circles as in to mainstream pop cultureblike hulk hogan, the rock and stone cold did?
@@StartSomewhereMedia Well, definitely not the same impact, but Orton has the most iconic finisher that a lot of people, even those who don't get into wrestling that much, know. Trust me, you mention WWE, and a lot of people will quickly think Orton, Cena, Mysterio etc.
I personally think Orton helped in WWE popularity during the years 2011-2015.
Why do I think he's the greatest at this point, he has a longer career than all those three you mentioned plus he is a Grandslam Champion and the youngest World Champion till this day, but I think Bret Hart competes against him over who truly is the GOAT. If Orton wins a 16 World Title, then I think the debate is settled.
@@FelixMichaelT83 you make a very greta point especially the finisher all over memes and tiktoks lol
Nothing he is the goat!!! Even cena fans once we got older we love randy more
I think your way of measuring "GOAT status" is flawed and I'll tell you why. Rock and Austin were badass wrestlers in a badass era that was the Attitude Era. Cena was the ultimate PG wrestler in an era where families and kids were told not to watch WWE. Orton was a badass wrestler during the same period but his character is obviously darker and not as fancy as Cena's. But during 2009 to 2011, him and Cena were toe to toe in terms of popularity. I would argue that Orton was more over. Both were the pillars of the company that held the wrestling business for a decade plus but WWE naturally wanted Cena to be the major poster boy because of his flashy character and ultimate babyface persona that made the kids emotional. Because of WWE's heavy reliance on PG rated product, Cena was given the majority of the opportunities. The Rock returned to face Cena twice in 2 Wrestlemania main events. Brock made his triumphant return to face him as well. No one other than Cena was given that much opportunities that the time. So it wasn't really possible for anyone to surpass Cena's overall popularity, though Orton gave him a serious competition for a few years.
But just because Cena is more popular doesn't make him the better wrestler in anyway. Justin Bieber is one of the most popular singers of this generation, but how stupid would it be to say that he has GOAT status in music? I'm not suggesting that Cena is like Justin Bieber of wrestling but you can't say someone is the GOAT solely on the basis of popularity. There are so many underrated artists around the world that don't get anywhere near the amount of attention that they deserve. But I don't think that makes them inferior to the people that get more attention.
Orton's case with popularity is complex and strange. He had many ups and downs... downs because of things like bad attitude in his 20s, getting suspended twice, and American entitled smarks getting insane (yes, I am talking about that nonsensical yes movement). But during his ups, Orton was globally popular. Especially during his peak, his name was everywhere. The RKO memes were super popular in the social media at one point too. But despite all that and the fact that he makes multiple millions of dollars every year, Orton has always been a little underrated throughout his career.
I recommend looking up "Everyone: Randy Orton is the best" on youtube to hear so many professionals that call him the best talent in the business".
No one can disagree he is thegreatest heel ever till now in wrestling business
If he cared He'd be the GOAT by far. It has been said multiple times by legends. Taker said that kid is the single most talented person in this business. Jericho said Randy is better than me and he isn't even trying. He's in cruise control. He's making money that's what he cares about.
Yeah 100% it's a talent and hard work thing people that are passionate about their craft and want to be the best vs people who are there because of talent but don't want it or like you said don't care.
@@StartSomewhereMedia He accepted many times he wasn't really a fan of the business. But he grew into it.
You are wrong about the Undertaker. He is levels above everyone you named, none of them were in the main event seen long enough like the Taker, and none of them were household names like the undertaker in the remote places. I witnessed this myself as a kid 23 years ago, when in remote villages people barely had any means to watch wrestling, and had no clue who Austin, Rock, or Hogan was, but they knew the Undertaker. He is the greatest character of all time, no one is even close. Even HHH couple of years ago travelled different parts of the world, including south Asia, just realized that Undertaker is bigger than what American fans perceive.
I don't think Randy needs to be that likeable in order to be the GOAT. Comparing his antics to Jon Jones is night and day, as Jones did things that made us question his humanity as a person whereas Randy had immaturity issues that he's seemed to overcome and become a better person. Dude is the perfect type of wrestler you'd want if you were starting up a wrestling company, has all the intangibles and talent, and overall is the greatest heel in WWE history.
thats a great point you make
WTF are y'all saying....The Undertaker is a class above everyone else
True
I think cena and Austin at their prime were on a whole another level
No disrespect to the Undertaker but Austin and Cena carried the business on their shoulders
@@partharoy2185 Nope they weren't none of them had the popularity of a character like the Undertaker. Undertaker is synonymous with Ghost, darkness and reincarnation in different parts of the world. Even in remote villages in India and China, people know undertaker but not Cena or Austin.
I meet Randy Orton before he is a good guy
Oh thats cool whered you meet him
@@StartSomewhereMedia i met him at elimination chamber 2017 he was a lot nicer then cena who i met 2015
@@josephhenry6247 that's really nice to hear. Cena kindve a fraud to his character?
Maven says he IS the best.
Shawn Micheals is the goat
undertaker higher that rock n cena
as time goes on Im thinking that too due to his longevity. But at their peak Rock and Cena was something else
uhmmm nothing?
I think the past year has added to his legacy but GOAT status to Stone Cold? The Rock? Hogan?
@@StartSomewhereMedia easily.
he stold my move from me
LMAO
no he realy did still m move he seen me do in a bar fight
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