I remember trying to make smoker work during op03 when issho came out, love to see the boom from the starter deck and all the new cards especially the tashigi and sengoku
That Tashigi is sooo good. Played a tournament yesterday and ran into a R/B Sabo, who is the bane of Black decks, but I was able to win thanks to seeing three Tashigi's. And yes, the Sengoku feels phenomenal for finding your pieces
LOL. Don't get me wrong, Doffy is always gonna be an extremely sweaty game. But at this point, I've beaten enough good Doffy players with the deck to know it's not just cope. If you can get 2 Jacks + Navy HQ, it becomes easy mode tbh. If not, it's definitely tough. You'll need to instead Rebecca + 5c Tashigi + 7k swing your way to victory lol. And usually that still needs to be supported by 1 Jack
LMAOOOOO! I have also done exactly that, just for the memes, and ended up with no counter in hand. Can confirm, got cooked Sometimes you're the Sen, sometimes you're the Goku 😔
Not gonna lie, I don't have a ton of experience as Smoker with that matchup. I feel like very few people are still playing Black Luffy. But I imagine the matchup shouldn't be too bad. I would try to find Stage in that matchup, as it basically nullifies Luffy's cost-raising leader ability, which is his biggest threat to Smoker
Pardon the long response, but here's the full answer, lol: Early and mid-game, it's just too hard to reduce things down to 1 in this deck. Playing a Brook on Turn 2 does nothing, because unless you use a whole Ice Age for a measly 4c unit, you're not killing anything with him. Next turn, you wanna play Tashigi on 6 Don, so there's no Don left for reduction to get a Brook kill. Late game, you have Kuzan on board, and his -5 cost reduction allows you to kill all big threats with Jack. Brook becomes kinda unnecessary at that point. IF your opponent decides to go wide rather than go tall, you can kill multiple unites a turn by using Jack for one kill, Moria > Rebecca > Koby for the other. And Koby is better synergy than Brook, cuz even though he requires a discard, he kills higher cost units, and he can be discarded for Sengoku draws.
Hi bro... Just want to ask about the meaning of the text... Many of this card use word give up cost of opponent... Can u help me explain how this work...
That's a pretty smart tech for sure. We already have 4 Jack, who can Activate Main to KO Blackbeard's units. But if you feel that's not enough, you could definitely replace the two 6c Sakazuki with two 5c Garp. Smart idea for sure 👌
@@Zupermario90 Yeah exactly - Garp is good for sure, but I don't like that he's constantly wrecking your hand-size. Jack allows you to get rid of bricks and fish for new cards, and sticks on board much better than Garp. But again, I don't mind running 4 Jack + 2 Garp. I might try it out when next set releases
Hmm. You could, but I will say Moria is really handy. I still think 2 Moria at least is really useful. Moria can be used full defensively, reviving Rebecca and Brannew, putting a blocker on board and adding 2 extra cards to hand. He can be used offensively for removal, playing Rebecca into Koby to kill a medium unit Or he can be used for pure cost reduction, playing out Rebecca > Hina + Tsuru to reduce something into Jack range I think Moria's just too versatile, and 10c Kuzan is already doing Issho's job better. Personally I wouldn't put any Issho's in this list and keep Moria at 2-3. If you watch my Gameplay Guide video, I actually went up to 3 😅 I just don't think Issho does much for this deck personally
@WillofDDT appreciate it. I'm a big navy fan and kind of got sick of the same black cards showing up in each deck. I really like your build by the way.
@@VuduG80r I hear you, I also dislike all black decks being the exact same lists, just with different leaders lol Unfortunately, Moria really just is that good. But yeah, besides Moria, Rebecca, and Jack, this deck is pretty much full-on Navy, so I hope you enjoy playing it! Thanks for watching! I'll be sure to post an updated Smoker list for OP9
Certainly not expensive compared to most meta decks. Most of the cards you'll have simply by buying 2 copies of the Smoker Starter Deck, which together should cost you $25 USD. After that, you'll need 4 Jacks ($4), 3 Morias ($6), 3 Kuzans ($5), and 3 Borsalinos ($4), which together will cost you about $61. The rest of the key cards, like Brannew and Sakazuki are a few cents. (A few cards, like 2k counter Tashigi pricier than I'd expect, but you could swap that out for any other Navy 2k.) I think shipping included, you should be able to put together the deck I'm playing for less than $100, which is actually pretty good for most TCG's 😆
Haha, I love how they look too! The inners are "Dragon Shield Perfect Fit Sealables - Smoke" (I know some people don't like the Sealables, so you could also just get their normal "Perfect Fit - Smoke" inners, should look the same)
Man,. This deck looks so sick. But is it okay to play without Rebecca? She's in like every black deck and I just can't afford to buy the 4 of her right now. I know she's good and that's why she's like 8$ each, but is there some kind of alternative?
Hey thanks so much for watching and for comment! I'm not gonna lie chief - yes, Rebecca is an absolute all-star in any black deck. So at the very least, I can tell you that buying a playset of Rebeccas will be a great investment, because she is an automatic 4-of in almost ANY Black deck, not just Smoker. Could you play without her? Sure. But the winrate will definitely reflect it lol. I just won another locals today with this deck, and hardest match was a very tough game against Doffy. I only won cuz saw multiple Rebeccas, which I played to grab 5c Tashigi from trash, which I then played to kill a unit, while putting 1 Don on leader to reduce another unit and using Jack to kill that. I did that exact play TWICE, all thanks to Rebecca. Card is just too good haha But again, I encourage you to just enjoy playing the deck, so if you don't have it right now, replace her with something else and just play and have fun anyway! 😄
Don't mind people who don't know how to deck build by themselves and only copy paste top lists telling you you need to invest loads of money on a single card for a deck to work. If you want a very cheap alternative for the Rebecca just play the 4 cost Shirahoshi blocker (ST08-006), you can play her from Gecko Moria to have a blocker and -4 the cost of someting just like you would with Rebecca into Hina. And I garantee you will catch a lot of people offguard even if you just hard cast her into removal.
No need tbh. Pretty much all cards in this deck are necessary, so there's not any flex spots that I could swap out for Sabos anyway. And besides that, Jack is already hard enough to kill, and 10c Kuzan is similar.
Love this profile I was looking for something without sabos and brooks
Haha nice, glad you found this list then! I personally don't think either of those cards are important for Smoker to do well 👍
I remember trying to make smoker work during op03 when issho came out, love to see the boom from the starter deck and all the new cards especially the tashigi and sengoku
That Tashigi is sooo good. Played a tournament yesterday and ran into a R/B Sabo, who is the bane of Black decks, but I was able to win thanks to seeing three Tashigi's.
And yes, the Sengoku feels phenomenal for finding your pieces
Really cool deck profile, I like the Kuzan addition. Took this on ladder and immediately lost to Doffy 🤣
LOL. Don't get me wrong, Doffy is always gonna be an extremely sweaty game. But at this point, I've beaten enough good Doffy players with the deck to know it's not just cope.
If you can get 2 Jacks + Navy HQ, it becomes easy mode tbh.
If not, it's definitely tough. You'll need to instead Rebecca + 5c Tashigi + 7k swing your way to victory lol. And usually that still needs to be supported by 1 Jack
i have resolved 4 sengoku in a row it was quite good (i suck and lost)
LMAOOOOO!
I have also done exactly that, just for the memes, and ended up with no counter in hand. Can confirm, got cooked
Sometimes you're the Sen, sometimes you're the Goku 😔
How does the deck play into st14 luffy?
Not gonna lie, I don't have a ton of experience as Smoker with that matchup. I feel like very few people are still playing Black Luffy. But I imagine the matchup shouldn't be too bad.
I would try to find Stage in that matchup, as it basically nullifies Luffy's cost-raising leader ability, which is his biggest threat to Smoker
Why no 3c Brook?
Pardon the long response, but here's the full answer, lol:
Early and mid-game, it's just too hard to reduce things down to 1 in this deck.
Playing a Brook on Turn 2 does nothing, because unless you use a whole Ice Age for a measly 4c unit, you're not killing anything with him. Next turn, you wanna play Tashigi on 6 Don, so there's no Don left for reduction to get a Brook kill.
Late game, you have Kuzan on board, and his -5 cost reduction allows you to kill all big threats with Jack. Brook becomes kinda unnecessary at that point.
IF your opponent decides to go wide rather than go tall, you can kill multiple unites a turn by using Jack for one kill, Moria > Rebecca > Koby for the other.
And Koby is better synergy than Brook, cuz even though he requires a discard, he kills higher cost units, and he can be discarded for Sengoku draws.
Hi bro... Just want to ask about the meaning of the text... Many of this card use word give up cost of opponent... Can u help me explain how this work...
You think for op9 it would be wrth playing 5c garp for the black beard match up since it looks like a lot of people gonna play BB
That's a pretty smart tech for sure. We already have 4 Jack, who can Activate Main to KO Blackbeard's units.
But if you feel that's not enough, you could definitely replace the two 6c Sakazuki with two 5c Garp. Smart idea for sure 👌
@WillofDDT yeah you right jack definitely better draws and trash a card and garp is trash and KO4c
@@Zupermario90 Yeah exactly - Garp is good for sure, but I don't like that he's constantly wrecking your hand-size. Jack allows you to get rid of bricks and fish for new cards, and sticks on board much better than Garp.
But again, I don't mind running 4 Jack + 2 Garp. I might try it out when next set releases
I have a question regarding moria. Since you mentioned he's not really necessary would swapping him out for 2 8 cost issho be an ok move?
Hmm. You could, but I will say Moria is really handy. I still think 2 Moria at least is really useful.
Moria can be used full defensively, reviving Rebecca and Brannew, putting a blocker on board and adding 2 extra cards to hand.
He can be used offensively for removal, playing Rebecca into Koby to kill a medium unit
Or he can be used for pure cost reduction, playing out Rebecca > Hina + Tsuru to reduce something into Jack range
I think Moria's just too versatile, and 10c Kuzan is already doing Issho's job better. Personally I wouldn't put any Issho's in this list and keep Moria at 2-3. If you watch my Gameplay Guide video, I actually went up to 3 😅
I just don't think Issho does much for this deck personally
@WillofDDT appreciate it. I'm a big navy fan and kind of got sick of the same black cards showing up in each deck. I really like your build by the way.
@@VuduG80r I hear you, I also dislike all black decks being the exact same lists, just with different leaders lol
Unfortunately, Moria really just is that good. But yeah, besides Moria, Rebecca, and Jack, this deck is pretty much full-on Navy, so I hope you enjoy playing it!
Thanks for watching! I'll be sure to post an updated Smoker list for OP9
is smoker pretty budget?
Certainly not expensive compared to most meta decks. Most of the cards you'll have simply by buying 2 copies of the Smoker Starter Deck, which together should cost you $25 USD.
After that, you'll need 4 Jacks ($4), 3 Morias ($6), 3 Kuzans ($5), and 3 Borsalinos ($4), which together will cost you about $61.
The rest of the key cards, like Brannew and Sakazuki are a few cents. (A few cards, like 2k counter Tashigi pricier than I'd expect, but you could swap that out for any other Navy 2k.)
I think shipping included, you should be able to put together the deck I'm playing for less than $100, which is actually pretty good for most TCG's 😆
What inner sleeves you rocking to make your cards look so clean and crisp with the white outers?
Haha, I love how they look too! The inners are "Dragon Shield Perfect Fit Sealables - Smoke"
(I know some people don't like the Sealables, so you could also just get their normal "Perfect Fit - Smoke" inners, should look the same)
@@WillofDDT Thanks bro! Really enjoying these smoker vids, watching your gameplay one now!
@@Darkpyro372 Thank you so much! Stay tuned for more deck profiles and gameplays!
Man,. This deck looks so sick. But is it okay to play without Rebecca? She's in like every black deck and I just can't afford to buy the 4 of her right now. I know she's good and that's why she's like 8$ each, but is there some kind of alternative?
Nope. She’s arguably the most important card after moria and tashigi
@urekmazino4935 well fuck. I guess I'll drop the $40 at some point soonish then.
Hey thanks so much for watching and for comment!
I'm not gonna lie chief - yes, Rebecca is an absolute all-star in any black deck. So at the very least, I can tell you that buying a playset of Rebeccas will be a great investment, because she is an automatic 4-of in almost ANY Black deck, not just Smoker.
Could you play without her? Sure. But the winrate will definitely reflect it lol.
I just won another locals today with this deck, and hardest match was a very tough game against Doffy. I only won cuz saw multiple Rebeccas, which I played to grab 5c Tashigi from trash, which I then played to kill a unit, while putting 1 Don on leader to reduce another unit and using Jack to kill that. I did that exact play TWICE, all thanks to Rebecca. Card is just too good haha
But again, I encourage you to just enjoy playing the deck, so if you don't have it right now, replace her with something else and just play and have fun anyway! 😄
Don't mind people who don't know how to deck build by themselves and only copy paste top lists telling you you need to invest loads of money on a single card for a deck to work. If you want a very cheap alternative for the Rebecca just play the 4 cost Shirahoshi blocker (ST08-006), you can play her from Gecko Moria to have a blocker and -4 the cost of someting just like you would with Rebecca into Hina. And I garantee you will catch a lot of people offguard even if you just hard cast her into removal.
@@tiagodoresalmeida Great suggestion as an alternative
No sabo?
No need tbh. Pretty much all cards in this deck are necessary, so there's not any flex spots that I could swap out for Sabos anyway. And besides that, Jack is already hard enough to kill, and 10c Kuzan is similar.