Age of Empires 2: DE Campaigns | Historical Battles | Lake Poyang (1363)

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  • @victinhoemn
    @victinhoemn 5 років тому +79

    i hate this scenario with a passion

    • @sindanonegongo1199
      @sindanonegongo1199 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂 I survived until they threw everything at me to make sure the temple wasn’t built, this is after the last ship imports the building materials

    • @omerfarukakgul7800
      @omerfarukakgul7800 15 днів тому

      I used to block the first shipment and I win the scenario but when I watch this I said to my self be a man play without cheat or any dirty tacticks and I am so proud I win but I HATE THİS MİSSİON 🤩🤣😠

  • @manolo26
    @manolo26 2 роки тому +22

    Really hard scenario. I remember doing the blockade thing in the HD version. Now I went it “clean” and took me four saves. The real problem are those towers. Without them it is possible to destroy all red docks amassing galleons and cannon galleons. I even destroyed grey’s castle with ships (but it was rebuild). Anyway, happy I got through this and got the achievement. For me is the hardest scenario in the game.

    • @DavidKlausa
      @DavidKlausa 2 роки тому

      The real problem are those towers, and also the fact that the ships you have to guard aren't smart enough to stay out of their range. Look, we charted a safe path for you if you just stay out here...

    • @arkadiuszjandylewski152
      @arkadiuszjandylewski152 Рік тому

      I agree! In addition the player has no chance to hide from the enemy AI, it will hunt the player on every area on the map.

  • @ahmadkhatibmursadi
    @ahmadkhatibmursadi 5 років тому +66

    You actually can block the incoming transport ship with 4 ships. And then you can develop as long as u want. Defeat all enemies and then release the transport ship in the end

    • @breadpwiece
      @breadpwiece 5 років тому +1

      its patched now

    • @MaaxMarc
      @MaaxMarc 4 роки тому +3

      @@breadpwiece I've just tried doing it and it still works.

    • @Imperator202
      @Imperator202 4 роки тому +1

      @@MaaxMarc Yup, still works but remember to be ready for the Han Navy attack on your village. Build a wall (your Cho-Ku-Nu and 2 monks should make quick work of the cavaliers) and some extra ships to deal with the 5-6 Galleons too (so they don't disrupt your blockade of the transport)

    • @MrMart374
      @MrMart374 4 роки тому +6

      you can even block the incoming transports after that, if you do it incorrectly though the transport will instantly die or slip to even the tiniest crack, requires a lot of micro to pull off

    • @NaxoR93
      @NaxoR93 2 роки тому +12

      I've finished this campaing yesterday just by doing that haha. Use some transport/fishing ships to block the way of the first transport so you can have all the time you want. Be careful to keep some Galleons guarding your starting point because after some time, some Han Navy Galleons (orange) and a couple of Cavaliers will spawn at your starting colony, but you can deal with them only using Galleons.
      With an insane micro, I managed to destroy the fortified tower at the southeast of the initial colony using a Cannon Galleon, then wiped out the Han Army (Gray) only using Galleons, without destroying their market (they resigned, but keep an eye on this establishment later as it will be attacked by Light Cavs that will spawn randomly). Then established a Town Center over there and traded with the market to have an infinite income of gold and boomed.
      Then, I massed galleons and destroyed every Han Navy ship I ran into, being careful with the towers and destroying them using my cannon galleons.
      After that, using Cannon Galleons, I destroyed the Castle of Admiral Chen just at the north of the initial colony (is at range of the CGs), then destroyed the wall where the beach is, destroyed the trees so I could unload a small army of skirmishers and halberdiers to use them as cannon fodder while I constructed a castle just on that beach. Then I trained a couple of trebs to take care of the fortified towers while using trash units as meat shield, and wiped out the entire Chen's island.
      Then, I massed insane amounts of heavy demo ships to destroy every ship and tower I could find, especially the fortified towers and enemy docks in order to cripple the enemy ship production. Thanks to my infinite income of gold, I didn't mind to use heavy demo ships to do this. You may want to mine the gold in the small islands too and capture the relic at the eastern side of the map, next to cyan's village.
      Then and only then, I let the first transport pass. Have some Galleons to patrol certain areas because despite you defeat your enemies, random Galleons from orange will spawn. In my case, they appeared at southwest of Chen's main island and at west of yellow's city. Also have some Halbs at your first base where gray was because of the Light Cavs that will spawn to harass you, and that's pretty much it.
      At this point, you just have to be patient. Have fun while all the transports arrive at yellow's, purchase the 20 Dragon Ships in order to unlock the achievement, and by the final shipment, mass Villagers and have them ready next to the wonder to finish it quickly and win the scenario.

  • @Sourcy
    @Sourcy Рік тому +3

    This mission made me rage so hard so many times, but I finally found a way to get through it and win, it's definitely my most satisfying win by a long margin when it comes to Single player.
    Here's how my strategy went:
    -As you kill the spearmen/longswords at the start, build a market, get 100 stone and build a town center there, being able to develop an eco makes this way easier, but you have to be extremely quick as the time limit given to you is super tight, building a town center will activate the Chinese +3 villager bonus which is super useful if you are short on food.
    -Build some houses in the first island where the first batch of gold can be found, your population limit is 150, so abuse that to every degree.
    -Pay the pirates, no, seriously, the third ship is placed literally next to their island, you really don't want to fight that battle, on top of that doing so removes the mercenaries next to three very important gold mines which contain WAY more than 2000 gold.
    -Buy the dragon ships, they are basically a better, more powerful version of the fireships and they are absolutely brutal against other ships.
    -To destroy the fortified towers, get at least 40 ships and raid them, Canons are especially useful, but place them behind other ships as these will be the most useful to destroy them
    I was finally able to beat this after my 9th try, they really wanted to make the only Chinese campaign be remembered.

  • @freezy898
    @freezy898 2 роки тому +5

    29:27 "we've completely dealt with the situation in a calm and not remotely panic manner"
    Few seconds later : HEAVY BREATHING

  • @zepwafels
    @zepwafels 4 роки тому +24

    BTW you can buy multiple dragon ship by tributing more gold. IE 2000 gold in one go will give you 20 ships, you dont have to tribute 100 golds a time.

    • @nevenamilojkovic8590
      @nevenamilojkovic8590 4 роки тому

      hahahah...he is ...no comment

    • @blastass
      @blastass 3 роки тому +1

      I also did it one by one. In the one mission where you can buy fully upgraded elephants I wasted a ridiculous amount of gold because nothing would happen half the time(even tho I had the pop space for them), so I was worried the same thing would happen in this mission lol.

    • @jimland4359
      @jimland4359 3 роки тому +1

      @@blastass I I always save before tributing like that. It isn't scumsaving if its bugged.

  • @felixcroc
    @felixcroc 5 років тому +16

    I could never understand this scenario

  • @sirgodua
    @sirgodua 5 років тому +12

    I am not saying I am pro or something, but the scenario sure got some touches after you recorded this (for instance the dude giving you the 5 times the same message about being careful with the ship has now petard icon, not villager). Now the amount of ships red sends to your base is tremendous, I would say much more than in your video. Also, to get to the 2nd point, I had to fight more ships. But maybe it is just me! :)

  • @thenayancat8802
    @thenayancat8802 3 роки тому +4

    At the start it helps to build a dock and blacksmith, then later university, so you can get bracer/galleon/chemistry and add galleons. Also a market so you can sell food. Means you have a decent navy by the time you get to the main lake

  • @luciangrand1943
    @luciangrand1943 3 роки тому +4

    It's a small thing, and you can get around it by selecting all idle naval units by pressing Tab twice, but playing as Blue on a huge lake was a decision on the designer's part.

  • @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC
    @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC 2 роки тому +9

    1. Escort mission (having to depend on AI pathing), and the escort is weak and easy to die
    1B. Instant mission-fail and unforgiving if weak dumb escort dies
    2. Water mission
    3. Having to do things against the clock
    4. Money cheat/Infinite spawn enemies
    5. Bull p*oop enemies/artificial map blockers (the OP towers)
    6. Any mission where you have to build a wonder
    7. Dumb useless ally (that you paid for)
    8. Weak storytelling and immersion
    My least favorite mission

  • @NaxoR93
    @NaxoR93 2 роки тому +4

    I've finished this campaing yesterday cheesing the scenario by blocking the first transport. Use some transport/fishing ships to block the way of the first transport so you can have all the time you want. Be careful to keep some Galleons guarding your starting point because after some time, some Han Navy Galleons (orange) and a couple of Cavaliers will spawn at your starting colony, but you can deal with them only using Galleons.
    With an insane micro, I managed to destroy the fortified tower at the southeast of the initial colony using a Cannon Galleon, then wiped out the Han Army (Gray) only using Galleons, without destroying their market (they resigned, but keep an eye on this establishment later as it will be attacked by Light Cavs that will spawn randomly). Then established a Town Center over there and traded with the market to have an infinite income of gold and boomed.
    Then, I massed galleons and destroyed every Han Navy ship I ran into, being careful with the towers and destroying them using my cannon galleons.
    After that, using Cannon Galleons, I destroyed the Castle of Admiral Chen just at the north of the initial colony (is at range of the CGs), then destroyed the wall where the beach is, destroyed the trees so I could unload a small army of skirmishers and halberdiers to use them as cannon fodder while I constructed a castle just on that beach. Then I trained a couple of trebs to take care of the fortified towers while using trash units as meat shield, and wiped out the entire Chen's island.
    Then, I massed insane amounts of heavy demo ships to destroy every ship and tower I could find, especially the fortified towers and enemy docks in order to cripple the enemy ship production. Thanks to my infinite income of gold, I didn't mind to use heavy demo ships to do this. You may want to mine the gold in the small islands too and capture the relic at the eastern side of the map, next to cyan's village.
    Then and only then, I let the first transport pass. Have some Galleons to patrol certain areas because despite you defeat your enemies, random Galleons from orange will spawn. In my case, they appeared at southwest of Chen's main island and at west of yellow's city. Also have some Halbs at your first base where gray was because of the Light Cavs that will spawn to harass you, and that's pretty much it.
    At this point, you just have to be patient. Have fun while all the transports arrive at yellow's, purchase the 20 Dragon Ships in order to unlock the achievement, and by the final shipment, mass Villagers and have them ready next to the wonder to finish it quickly and win the scenario.

  • @ArmandDupin
    @ArmandDupin 4 роки тому +29

    I just don't get why the devs had to put OP towers all over the place. If you're skilled enough to destroy the AI, then good for you, you deserve a smooth sailing at the end of the mission.
    This is completely gamey and not very interesting.

    • @davidearea242
      @davidearea242 3 роки тому +1

      Meneldhil -'Gamey and not very interesting.' Your girlfriend said the same thing about you...

    • @megazega5017
      @megazega5017 2 роки тому

      @@davidearea242 your mom said the same thing before she tosed you in the trash

    • @Broccoli821
      @Broccoli821 Місяць тому

      It's not that difficult on the hardest mode. I've almost beaten everything on 'hardest' mode. If you know how to boom fast, and what units to make and how, its very simple. Some missions are actually very difficult. There's one I can't pass and I've been trying forever..

  • @janisberzins1734
    @janisberzins1734 4 роки тому +5

    That was intense, especially at the end... Finished temple on moderate difficulty, but enemy land forces had 3 my castles destroyed and it was close...

    • @MrMart374
      @MrMart374 4 роки тому +1

      thats why you destroy them before you let the transport through

  • @HadouGun
    @HadouGun 4 роки тому +3

    Isn't there a Market up top that you can get gold from?

  • @waleswideman1
    @waleswideman1 4 роки тому +2

    Are you kidding me I been transporting my treble to the little islands.lol

  • @MattDoesSound
    @MattDoesSound 2 роки тому +3

    5:54 "I don't believe in my micro" *kills onager and both pikemen without losing an archer*

  • @xpersonx
    @xpersonx 11 місяців тому +1

    I feel validated by these comments and some of Ornlu's statements that I'm not the only one having trouble with this fucking scenario 😅 (and Gajah Mada 5 for that matter 😂)

  • @harryg9203
    @harryg9203 5 років тому +12

    Langshan Jiang. I always hated this one lol

  • @ThMnSam47
    @ThMnSam47 Рік тому

    I cheesed this map after trying it once, blockaded the first transport at the small pass at the top. Built a town center after chopping enough trees, then built an economy. Chopped the trees to the Han army, then marketed enough gold to wipe them out, build a castle at the beginning to stop the ships that spawn, and calmly worked my way through all the Han and pirates to Nan, building ships to clear out the bay the entire time. Basically remover the time limit and had my way with the map. The op towers one hit everything EXCEPT trebuchets, so you can wipe them out using transports. Came to watch this video to see how someone else should "naturally" do this map.

  • @amalgamationprime3168
    @amalgamationprime3168 2 роки тому +1

    The only Chinese scenario I've played before Lake Poyang is that one China campaign from Age of Empires 3, which I doubt whether or not if it's historically true.

  • @callHardmoor
    @callHardmoor 5 років тому +3

    why didn't you set up a traderoute with the peasants?

  • @KamleshMallick
    @KamleshMallick 3 роки тому +6

    So there is absolutely no point in donating 2000 gold to the pirates. They are useless. I did not give them money and destroyed their docks when guarding the 4th location on the east side of map. They are passive and waste of gold. It is better spent on getting 20 Dragon Ships. When my 50 villagers are building the temple, the dragon ships saved my ass when we get attacked from all sides.
    Also those fuckin annoying towers of fortitude with 200 attack and 35 range. WTF is that! I guess they wanted to ensure players could not destroy all the RED docks.
    So annoying!!!!! One of the worst!
    Also we need more Chinese campaigns! This one, we could not enjoy the real power of massed Chu-Ku-Nu's as this was a naval scenario.

  • @ImperialDiecast
    @ImperialDiecast Рік тому +1

    i found spamming fire ships to more effective than spamming galleons. even left me with enough spare gold to bribe the pirates before 2nd shipment.

  • @jeffbanks9955
    @jeffbanks9955 2 роки тому +4

    Good job man. I hate these stressy timed campaigns i much prefer the chill n take your time types

  • @TheAireaidLord
    @TheAireaidLord Рік тому

    I somehow did this mission without the fire ships. Didn't realize you could make them/pay for them.

  • @jordanlimantara1814
    @jordanlimantara1814 Рік тому

    You would think after buying at least 5 of those dragons ships he would know where to place the cursor, but nope he kept going to the middle and adjusting it every time XD.

  • @andrewwestcott9172
    @andrewwestcott9172 3 роки тому +2

    Is there some trick to getting the achievement on this level, i got 20 dragon ships by tributing 2000 gold to the peasants and won the scenaro, but still no achievement

    • @jonathanornaghi6680
      @jonathanornaghi6680 3 роки тому +1

      Same here!this morning i did this scenario,won and bought more than 25 dragon ships (not consecutive but in total) and didn't get the achievement! can someone help us please?

  • @sonatafrittata
    @sonatafrittata Місяць тому

    how are there no ships north of the island before the second shipment?! for me its swarming with like 20 ships

  • @tcsiyic3584
    @tcsiyic3584 5 років тому +6

    They never send the transport ships as well.... Strange
    I actually enjoy the crazy hard campaigns because watching how pros win them is so fun xD
    Sadly most forgotten empire campaigns got reworked to cakewalk difficulty for the better players :(

    • @Dastanned
      @Dastanned 5 років тому

      Even for a non-pro player like me it was fun. Enjoyed the challenge. Wish there was an extreme difficulty mode like in the random maps.

    • @OrnLu_AoE
      @OrnLu_AoE  5 років тому

      Well you saw here just how ez pz this scenario was for me! hahahahaha.... I am noob.....

  • @cnidhi007
    @cnidhi007 3 роки тому

    I am stuck with last shipment. Standard level is not giving me ample time to explore map, gather gold and expand my empire.

  • @erkocab
    @erkocab 4 роки тому +1

    i agree - wish the devs would have made a couple of campaigns for the China -- for example rise of the han dynasty

  • @jatei1735
    @jatei1735 5 років тому +4

    If I remember correctly you can just tribute 200 and get 2 ships, 300 for 3 ships etc

  • @mr.mcfife4131
    @mr.mcfife4131 Рік тому +2

    Kind reminder to developers; EVERYBODY HATES ESCORT MISSIONS. Just stop making those. God.

  • @shotgundorothy
    @shotgundorothy Рік тому

    This and 'Field of Blood' gave me the most grief on hard difficulty.

  • @arkadiuszjandylewski152
    @arkadiuszjandylewski152 Рік тому

    If you want to pay tribute faster you can just click on the same gold, food,wood or stone ikon multiple times. If you want to pay even faster hold shift and then left click the icon, every time you click you will give 500 units of ressources away.

  • @ivanweissbein5253
    @ivanweissbein5253 11 місяців тому

    Why didnt the AI send all of the loaded transports??

  • @jakoboka
    @jakoboka Рік тому

    Could you maybe do a re and show how to wat those towers? Or are you still recovering after a few years? 😂

  • @HistoricalWeapons
    @HistoricalWeapons 6 місяців тому +1

    They need Chinese campaign

  • @Staloborlp97
    @Staloborlp97 Рік тому

    I really enjoy this one.
    They nerfed the OP towers in a patch to only 100 attack, so now you can take them down easily with trebs.
    I wanted to destroy all the AI bases, so I didn't build the wonder. After a while they stopped attacking with their ships, which got their transport ships stuck, which meant they didn't attack at all anymore.

  • @DiegoAlanTorres96
    @DiegoAlanTorres96 Рік тому

    They used to have heavy demos in this one?
    ouch

  • @mra-358
    @mra-358 Рік тому

    Fun fact: the special fortified towers of the enemy only deals -1 damage to trebuchets despite having more than +30 attack. 😅

    • @youngblood1460
      @youngblood1460 7 місяців тому

      YEAH I JUST SAW THAT HAD A 300+ ARMY AFTER THE DRAGON SHIP ADD TO POP

  • @hazulpierdut6699
    @hazulpierdut6699 5 років тому +5

    why not make scenarios for a campaign yourself, since you know lots about chinese history? :>

    • @OrnLu_AoE
      @OrnLu_AoE  5 років тому +10

      Maybe one day, when I'm not being crushed by being a full time student, streaming, and maintaining daily youtube uploads! hahaha *cries*

    • @hazulpierdut6699
      @hazulpierdut6699 5 років тому

      @@OrnLu_AoE btw getting the feeling you could've filled the gold island with keeps and keep (haha) the villagers safe + stop some ships

    • @youngblood1460
      @youngblood1460 7 місяців тому

      @@OrnLu_AoE YEAH TOOK ME 4 HOURS BUT I BLOCKED THE FIRST TRANSPORT IN I DONT KNOW HOW YOU DO IT

  • @HadouGun
    @HadouGun 4 роки тому +5

    I think having 3 normal ships is better than having 1 fire ship.

    • @alexchizek5520
      @alexchizek5520 2 роки тому +1

      I typically abandon fires when I can mass galleons

  • @nnaauujjddaa
    @nnaauujjddaa Рік тому

    I came here because while doing this I lost the 4th transport to the cheaty tower than one shot it, so i wanted to see how to prevent that. Conclusion send your ships to die so they get the aggro.

  • @alessandromaffi4498
    @alessandromaffi4498 8 місяців тому

    the lake of the starry sky

  • @waleswideman1
    @waleswideman1 4 роки тому

    I should be able to control the shipment the first shipment runs right into the enemy

  • @alessandromaffi4498
    @alessandromaffi4498 Рік тому

    don't love people who tell you to buy 20 ships to burn from a certain legendary admiral named Li Si

  • @uncleboby5952
    @uncleboby5952 Рік тому

    Setting up the trade cog ships to trade with cyan boomed my gold to spam mass cannon gallies and take out red's docks.

  • @arkadiuszjandylewski152
    @arkadiuszjandylewski152 Рік тому

    It is a damn difficult mission. The player has no chance to hide from AI it will hunt the player on every area on the map.

  • @Anxiou5Panda
    @Anxiou5Panda 2 роки тому

    This shit surprised me, I didn't expect Red to be so fucking aggressive lmao. I had to watch this video so I can get ideas, to think I'm only playing this scenario in Standard. I dislike the OP towers and random spawns.
    Players should be able to defeat AI opponents fairly when there's a timer and infinite resource (on the opposing side) involved.

    • @youngblood1460
      @youngblood1460 7 місяців тому

      JUST BLOCK FIRST TRANSPORT IN MY ARMY WAS 300+ WITH DRAGON SHIPS

  • @vik24oct1991
    @vik24oct1991 10 місяців тому

    the first onager can be killed by trebuchet using attack ground, instead putting archers at risk.

    • @youngblood1460
      @youngblood1460 7 місяців тому

      I USED THAT BUT AFTER DRAWING IT INTO RANGE WITH ARCHERS NEVER THOUGHT TO TAKE THE TREB FURTHER

  • @MrMart374
    @MrMart374 4 роки тому

    you can trubute 2000 gold and you get 20, dont need to do it all at ones

    • @MrMart374
      @MrMart374 4 роки тому

      you can even try to dodge the op towers attack with galleons and attack with like 7 cannon galleons at once, still really really hard

    • @coolnorsee6869
      @coolnorsee6869 4 роки тому

      @@MrMart374 bird

  • @steffplaysmapping1104
    @steffplaysmapping1104 Рік тому

    The game has done the east dirty. Especially Chinese with this blood boiling campaign

  • @XVRMEDIA
    @XVRMEDIA 3 роки тому

    Walk in the park?? 30 more seconds and you would have lost the scenario. You barely scraped it :-)

    • @ichhabe330
      @ichhabe330 2 роки тому

      So you clearly missed out that he was joking when he said it was a walk in the park? You really must be a blast at parties.

  • @vasiliysmirnov7400
    @vasiliysmirnov7400 3 роки тому

    Зря на замок накинулся, расшевелил их.

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 14 днів тому

    This is the worst mission I have ever played in ANY video game in like 20 years of gaming!

  • @GG-ld6eh
    @GG-ld6eh 5 років тому

    Reskin, didn’t like that

  • @user-vo1sb3bo1s
    @user-vo1sb3bo1s 4 роки тому

    There's something anachronistic about this campaign, Nanchang wasn't called Nanchang when the battle occured, but we all know how careless Microsoft devs are on designing the AoE campaigns

    • @NixDarkLord
      @NixDarkLord 3 роки тому +3

      caraeless? almost 90% of their campaigns are totally accurate in terms of history

  • @karl168
    @karl168 Рік тому

    i cant even win this cheating

  • @tH4ttUs
    @tH4ttUs 3 роки тому

    awful mission. timer, no oportunity to deytroy industry, fukking see battle with a lot of ships!!!

  • @LordDamo
    @LordDamo 3 роки тому

    The worst scenario in the game imo...

  • @AlLaST0I2
    @AlLaST0I2 Рік тому

    I really hate this

    • @Chazu_Kire
      @Chazu_Kire Рік тому +1

      Build 2 docks and 8 fishing ships at the start. Set 8 fish traps and send 3 vills to gold and rest to chop wood. It becomes very, very easy to mass war galleys after that.

  • @tybodaman3863
    @tybodaman3863 3 роки тому

    For the love of god zoom out man

  • @AdrianaGrande
    @AdrianaGrande Рік тому +1

    Okay call me a little bitch but I was WAY too afraid to actually take on this challenge as intended so I cheesed it HAAAARD like some of the comments explained. You block off the first transport ship then I turtled my base and boomed economy like crazy. First defeated the Hun Army. Used Siege Ram to take out the Admirals first super tower - the 17 range towers that basically insta-kill everything. Then I cleaned up the seas with ships. Boom boom boom more economy. Cannon ships to take out sea-based super towers, heavy demo ships to take out red docks, paid the pirates to fight for me then killed them off with onager attack ground, then literally defeated Admiral Han (red) entirely and then hun navy entirely. Paid the Chinese peasants over 2000 gold in tribute for the smoke on the water achievement, set my army of 60 or so elite Chu Ko Nu archers to attack all the walls in red base to get No Suntzu Light achievement and finally let the ships carrying all the resources go through uninhibited to complete the mission.
    Here's the mad part... my completion time... NINE AND A HALF HOURS ha ha ha 😂😭😂
    Oh also got Chinese victory achievement. 3 achievements. Almost 10 hours.