How old is the Doctor - Discussion / Theory
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- In this video I try to work out the age of the Time Lord known as The Doctor from his beginnings on Gallifrey to now, with the First Doctor appearing in this year's Xmas Special - Twice Upon A Time - it's only fitting I look into his age.
Now you can add the years the Doctor spent in the Confession Dial to the final number if you want but for the video I have not included this figure when counting his total age. To add the age of the Doctor from the Confession Dial add 4.5 Billion to the number I claim to be the Doctor's age at the end of the video. :)
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Maybe that's why Tennant's incarnation said he could do "so much more". He really didn't last that long.
Lol 10 lived less than 10 years? No wonder he didn’t want to go
9 lived like a year
@@michelwelling4692 no he lived like 100 years
@@nourmasri1398 nope really just like a year
@@michelwelling4692he spend a year with rose , that's this onscreen time. But he didn't Just regenerate from the war doctor to the ninth and then meet rose.
From the few pictures of the Titanic and the assassin on the Kennedies you can see that he had that face before he met her. Also because there was that man who was trying to gather information about him for a while and he only knew the ninth face.
This means that he must have lived more than a year.
How much exactly is not known but
he spend some time travelling alone before before he took rose as his companion.
@@nourmasri1398 yeah but it couldnt have been long since he was very new to his own body in "rose"
As a side note - Gallifrey is Canonically three times the size of Earth and at a much wider orbit. Meaning they have longer days and longer years. So a year in Gallifrey may be as much as 6 or 10 earth years, and a day as much as four days depending on exact orbital and revolution speeds. Rather than recalculate their age It is EXTREMELY Likely that the time sense that tells them "This is cannon, this is not cannon etc" is what they use to determine their age in any given description.
We want his age in human years. If we calculated it in Gallifreyan years, he'd probably just be 100. That's a boring answer.
@@Silverwind87 He's billions of years old.
10th doctor is 1912 years old when he was on space Titanic, that's a huge coincidence (for anyone that doesn't know the Titanic sank in 1912)
Grampa Swood he says 912, not 1912
Nope. He said 903.
Dihydrogen Monoxide yeah he says 903 because he started counting again as the 8th doctor. But he was actually 1912 years old.
ignore my comment, I didn't watch the full video before commenting
No 904 he says in his speech
Right off the bat, one thing I contend with is when you say "kid." I think when the Doctor said he was just a kid, he was referring to his time as a young adult. You know, the way a 50-year-old might look back at themselves at 22 and say they were a kid.
his age and his children are two things we may never know.
Jess Reed And first wife
We know though he has a biological grandaughter.
I still say his kid looked like Jenny.
And his name
@@trollzynisaacjohan1793 not
My memory may be wrong, but I’m sure The Doctor did NOT accumulate memories in the Confession Dial because he kept recalculating the current time by looking at the constellations. He also made the same observations each time. He concluded that he was stuck there for billions of years, he didn’t remember each incarnation.
we see in the next season that he can see the last memories of that person's skull, he does look at his own skull which could be when he figured it out. if that makes any sense
The Equalizer 2014 after the end he does in fact accumulate those memories, he states as much, and that it was his suffering and punishment
It's part of his time stream tho still and he's a Timelord so he can probably sense what happened in his past lives.
Actually he does say when he arrives at the Azbantium wall that he always ends up remembering everything at that point.
So he does “remember it all”.
His words.
The correct answer would have been:
42
42 indeed
Like the TARDIS itself, the Doctor is also the meaning of life.
How many years is that calculated in bistromathematics?
42
Nah that’s his real name
I remember *TardisArchives* once did a video about Doctor's age... What a pity he left UA-cam...
Mr. AnselmTheWeird0 Why did he leave?
FBI
The Twelfth Doctor has actually aged quite a lot, meaning that his twelfth incarnation has been around for hundreds of years.
Firstly, in Before The Flood, he spent 139 years in the chamber of the Fisher King (1980-2119)
I don't know if this was for the Doctor or the Monks, but in Extremis, the sonic sunglasses say that the age of some being is 2300 and something. The sunglasses were probably talking about the Monks, however it's possible that they were referring to the Doctor.
We most likely will never know his current age, however. But it's always fun to make theories, eh?
Pirate man So it was. Forgot about that.
I don't believe is was the Monks, wasn't all their data just a bunch of scrambling symbols?
Bookworm Gamer A bunch of scrambling signals? I don't remember anything like that being mentioned.
For some of their information it was just a bunch of fluctuating symbols. You know the information that was shown by the glasses?
Don't forget spending 4.5 billion years in the confession dial.
AANNDD... Then, there is the 4 billion years he spent in the confession dial.
Wow, I never understood why Ten said the he "could do some much more" and that he didn't wanna go, this explains a lot of that, since he usually spends hundreds of years with one face.
the eighth doctor spend 600 years in orbis :)
it has been said that a year in orbius passes very fast, and the doctor bases his age in place and time, he himself said that in a distant galaxy he could only have two years
yea that episode where he spent those billions of years was so sad and amazing to see how far hed go for the people he loves, the confession dial was awesome
The second Doc said to Victoria (and Jamie), in Tomb of the Cybermen, 'Well, if we count in Earth terms, I must be something like 450 years old', (plus he had a 500 year diary) the Third Doc remarks in The Time Warrior that he's over 200, and the 4th Doc fluctuated between 749 (Brain of Morbius) to 756 in Ribos Operation but was shaken up by the Recreation Generator on the Leisure Hive. The 6th Doc said he was a 900 year old in Revelation of the Daleks and the 7th said he had the same age as The Rani in his first story, and they both were 953. Then it seriously gets complecated. 😮
Rule one! The Doctor lies...
Damion Rhodes this only applies to the Ponds
@@ejoarkhamgamer567 Ehhh...
Imagine losing track of your age so badly centuries into you life that you just start over and tell people you're three. 🤣
The Doctor is actually more than likely 4000 years old since he recently regenerated
According to the 6th doctor, at least 10 million years
"10 million years of absolute power"
-The 6th doctor referring to gallifrey
If they had discovered time travel and regeneration because of the doctor (the timeless child) then the doctor must be that old. Perhaps when he gives his age he only counts the time after he started being called 'the doctor'
I'm hoping the first Doctor confirms that he was The Other and is as old as the universe
In classic who the doctor said he was around 1000 years old when the time war started the doctor restarted counting his age the 12th doctor said he was 2000 years old if I had to guess I'd say the doctors real age as off now is around 3000-4000 years old
yep thats mine too, for the same reason
its obvious the doctor is over 100 million tops as shown in one of the final episodes with clara he explains how long he was in that time zone reliving the moments suffering
TARDIS Archives? Is that you ? Jk, this is an amazing video
Sketching Music yeah I wonder if they were them
Don't forget the 100 or so years he spent inside the cryo cabinet in Before the Flood
I think that the writers of Doctor Who have no clue of what his age is, and they've given numbers randomly. The first doctors have said that they have lived for thousands of years, so there's no way that the 11th Doctor could be only 1200 years old.
msinvincible2000 I think Hartnell said he was thousands of years from his own time, he never actually gave his age if I recall. It was reasonably consistent in classic Who, as in the numbers always went up in a logical way, apart from Pertwee saying "several thousand years" which you can say was him referring to how long he'd chronologically been a scientist. NuWho is the only one to roll back the clock.
Yeah, I would imagine that being a time traveler where everything is the present whether it's the year 5,000,000,000 AD or the year 100,000 BC would likely messy with your perception of time.
Trying to comprehend DOCTOR WHO is a ability that has never been mastered
Is this just a copy of the TARDISarchives video that was deleted but with details from new episodes?
Hi :), the video shouldn't be a copy of any sort, I used research such as info from books, tv and my knowledge to create the video, I didn't actually see the TARDIS Archives video related to this topic due to as you say the videos on the channel being deleted which is a shame as the pieces I saw where really good! - Top 10's and the Series 10 reviews :)
Fantastic.
Absoletely fantastic
Fanta stick.
The Great Dalek Exterminator yes
The Great Dalek Exterminator Oh brilliant!
The Great Dalek Exterminator ii
For calculate the Doctor's age we must used the infos from the eighth series (because it's cannon since 2013), The Eighth Doctor lived more 600years (The Eighth Doctor Serie Three: Orbis). And was changed his age when he became the War Doctor.
But what about The Other theory? If the doctor really is the other (which in my opinion he is) then he’s much older than that, he’s like billions of years old
I was really annoyed that they reduced the age with the reboot as until then it had been pretty consistent. However weirdly adding the War Doctor in does help the numbers better align. Though its implied that while he remembered using the Moment he had suppressed the memories of being the War Doctor. We have of course seen the Doctor even beyond the 13th as he was also the Curator.
Didn't he like wait for a billion years after Clara died or something?
I've had this theory for a while; being born Gallifreyans, Time-Lords don't count their ages from birth, but from when when they become Time-Lords, so it's more of an anniversary of their graduation from the Academy. Gallifreyans naturally have very long lifespans to begin with (barring accident and malady), and then becoming Time-Lords bestows the ability to regenerate. This would explain how the High Council was able to 1: force Two's regeneration into Three, and 2: give Eleven (really 13) another cycle.
Expanding on this, I think the 1st Doctor was really his 1st regeneration, his 1st self actually being pre-Graduation Gallifreyan. this would make the list actually:
edit: I forgot 10.5
Birth = Galifreyan, going by the Doctors real name ("Doctor Who" being what he named himself at Graduation) = Scared little kid in Gallifreyan barn
1st regeneration (bestowed upon at graduation from Academy) = 1st Doctor = William Hartnell / Richard Hurndall / David Bradley
2nd regeneration = 2nd Doctor = Patrick Troughton
3rd regeneration (forced) = 3rd Doctor = John Pertwee
4th regeneration = 4th Doctor = Tom Baker
5th regeneration (weird and difficult) = 5th Doctor = Peter Davison
6th regeneration = 6th Doctor = Collin Baker
7th regeneration = 7th Doctor = Sylvester McCoy
8th regeneration (medically delayed) = 8th Doctor = Paul McGann
9th regeneration (induced by the Sisterhood) = War Doctor (or, The Warrior? forgotten 9th) = John Hurt
10th regeneration = 9th Doctor (really 10th) = Christopher Eccleston
11th regeneration = 10th Doctor (really 11th) = David Tennant
12th regeneration = 10.5 / Meta-crisis Doctor (really 12th) = Also, David Tennant
13th regeneration (final of first cycle) = 11th Doctor (really 13th) = Matt Smith
14th regeneration (first of new cycle, bestowed upon at pleas of Clara to Time-Lords) = 12th Doctor (really 14th) = Peter Capaldi
15th regeneration = 13th Doctor (really 15th) = Jodie Whittaker
Sarreq Teryx: Actually, the name he choose for himself was NOT Doctor WHO, but just simply "Doctor". Otherwise nice theory.
he did call himself Doctor Who for a while in old Who
I liked, also, at the very of [Pertwee's] "The Ark in Space", a character explaining to relief aid they'd had some trouble but everything was fine now, "...thanks to the Doctor." After a moment's nod, the other fellow wasks him, "Doctor...*who* did you say?"
I think missy wasn't joking when she said that is real given timelord name is "Doctor Who", as it's easy to think that he snickers to himself whenever he gives half his name so that one completes it with a question. The Doctor is vain and mischievous after all.
Sarreq Teryx The theory is fine enough, but I'll keep calling The First Doctor "The First Doctor" if that us alright.
Ah, the artificial aging of The Doctor in the Moffat era. Although that is good for Big Finish, and the EU. Gives them room to work.
His most overheard Remark is I don’t know a hundred and something (unless offcorse I’m lying . And River song confirms it by saying The Doctor Lies.
When you're talking about age, the first question should be whether the "age" of the Doctor is determined in Gallifreyan years, or Earth years. The rotation period of Gallifrey is unknown, as is the number of Gallifreyan days that it takes to orbit its sun. Speaking of its sun, it appear as though Gallifrey is part of a binary pair of suns, so the next question is: does it orbit one sun, and if so, which one? Does it orbit both suns? All of these questions need to be answered before you can correlate Gallifreyans' age with Earth years. Everything else is sheer speculation.
I think if the (DOCTOR WHO) show series got rebooted again someday; There could be a chance at properly revealing what his actual age is.
And reveal properly what (The Doctor’s) been through, along with explain why he is much older, than all the previous TimeLords that once existed,
To add mentioned about the very special types of planets that exist in certain places of the universe.
In addition mentioned that on those special types of planets time moves at different levels of a slow pace.
The thing is, the Doctor jumps back and forth through time. There's no rising sun in the TARDIS to tell him how many days or years he's been alive, and he can't count the seconds
I have a theory that you loose years time traveling. It's like traveling around the galaxy where if you see the sun your seeing it 8 hours into the past. Also, if you go millions of miles away from earth and look back, you could see the dinosaurs (if the vision was through a powerful telescope).
What about the time 12 spent in the cryogenic cabinet in Before the Flood? Everyone seems to forget about that.
I think that he just restarted with Paul mcgann and after the time war he was roughly 900 by his own count, however new who makes it unclear how he was aging at that point because like you said the time of 10 doesn’t match up at all with his stories, he couldn’t have been the doctor for just a couple years, and honestly same can probably be said for 9 who by metrics would have been only in that body a year, literally the least likely thing Ive heard. So yeah he has now earthly idea how old he is
I think you ignoring an important factor of "age": how are you counting? I don't mean in the "how long is a year" sense, but rather what is age itself. Do you count from his first appearance in the universe, how he himself perceives time, in relation to his current temporal position in space time in relation to the big bang.... And what of quantum histories and other alternate dimensions?
He could be zero, he could be 10 billion (US usage), he could be -10,000 ......
Travis Smith No.
You forgot about the heaven sent episode where he was trapped in his “last will” for about 3 billion or so years
Marina Bre - 6:26
During that though, he didn't age at all, by the ebd of the day he was reset, so doesn't count as aging.
there is even the fact the he spent billions of years trapped to save clara.
well think of it this way, after each regeneration the doctor starts off at zero yrs... as for the 1st doctor we only now of him after he leaves home - but when he finally did come home he said that a time lord does not die on gallifrey unless they are sentenced to death plus they can be brought back to life at any time as needed. but remember he said he came from the time of Rassilon
I disagree on not counting his time spent in the prison in Heaven Sent. The time did pass while he as in there, and he was alife during all of that. So from an outside point of view, he is impossibly old. Even if he doesn't remember most of it.
maybe Russel T Davies forgot to make him age a bit more so 10 only lived 3 years no wonder he didn't want to go
I think that the Doctor tells his age depending on the time period he is currently locate in. Which would explain why he is younger when the universe is younger and older when he is further in the future.
have heard a couple of interesting theories, including the idea that the Doctor only counts how many years he's been in his current regeneration, with the possible exception of when he first regenerates (trying to make an impressive speech to intimidate an invading alien doesn't work when you say you're only a few hours old). It might tie into Romana saying he's been piloting the TARDIS for 500 years, because she's only counting the time since the Doctor got it operational after his Third incarnation was exiled on Earth. I've also heard the idea that he's actually on his second set of regenerations when we meet him, which may be part of the reason he's left Gallifrey, stealing a second set of regenerations would be a pretty high crime. This might be what the Third Doctor was referring to by being thousands of years old. All interesting theories. I believe the Doctor may be a lot older than the 3000 years you and others have come up with, but I guess that's part of the mystery of the Doctor.
If the Time Lords were real, your think they'd have a way of counting the age, or remembering it. Perhaps implant a little timer somewhere on your arm, or ask the TARDIS to memorise it.
I guess so because when a time lord leave gailfrey some of their memories got erased and the regeneration pretty much reset their memories
I like your channel a lot and I like Doctor Who but OH MY GOD PLEASE GET A BETTER MIC
So the 12th doctor is the longest living incarnation in the universe
great video! but just to let you in in the audio adventures (confirmed canon by night of the doctor) the eight doctor spent almost 200 years on earth from suffering amnesia (ancestor cell), he also spent a thousand years in the divergent universe and to make him EVEN OLDER!! he spent 600 yrs in Orbis. so given this information, he is technically 5000 yrs old. jesus even I would lose track if I was that old.
BUT sI read somewhere that the ninth doctor travelled alone for about a hundred years. Also, simewhere online they said that tenth doctor lived "about seven or eight years". You counted 3 so that would be +100 for the ninth doctor and +5 for the tenth doctor. 3203+105= 3308.
now how old is the tardis? that thing has to be 10,000 plus years older-
It is 4,993,000,053
Or atleast it was last it was mentionee
So, The Doctor didn't see Rose now about 2000 years? Blimey...
This makes the 11th doctoe the oldest doctor to ever lived
I think the twelfth is the oldest (counting his trapped years)
yes he actually lived out a normal time lord incarnation, instead of burning through it like a loon
@@nourmasri1398 technically the 12th was reset so it doesn't count
@@ivandphantom9028 why not? If you can remember the experience then it happened, therefore he's billions of years old.
RTD retconned all previous mentions of his age to establish continuity.
I have a feeling that timelords have different years then humans. I dont know how 40 human years (60's - 00's) could be like 400 years in the Doctor's life.
The Doctor is infinity and walks in eternity. I believe River Song said something close to this in the Husbands of River Song.
The Doctor used to talk about 500-year diaries. All he has to do is count the diaries. If he stopped filling them in, then it's his own fault. :p
Several Billion Years old, if you count all the years he is stuck in the confession Dial
War Doctor was 800, not 900. We know this because he went on a century long trip saving people throughout history, as told during the 9th Doctors era, mostly in Rose. Also 9 regenerated at 900, not 903
Not sure if this would count but I want to point out that if we were to include his time in the confession dial then he would be well over 4.5 billion years old.
to S10 it doesn't count.
There is many times where calls himself 2000 Years old
Damn..... ay he got a letter from the queen yet
I think that the Doctor can’t be older than 5000 years. You also forgot the time he spent 139 years in a status chamber. I believe that at the time the twelfth Doctor regenerated he was around 3334 give or take 20 or 30 years and to add on the 1009, he would then be around 4343.
The tenth Doctor lived for 5 years. You started counting his age at 'Voyage of the Damned', after he first appeared 2 seasons (2 years more or less based on how every season is basically one year) and the only reason I can see why you did that is because that's just the first time this incarnation mentions his age? How has nobody spotted this?
I have a theory: the 10th doctor forgot to count his age for a couple hundred years and just went by what he thought was his age in the end of time.
After heaven sent he's now well over 2 billion
I suppose he could have viewed each regeneration as a separate time, so 903-906 years as David's doctor. added to it. Not cure which I'd rather believe.
Tigdam xD It's one long age.
So, Eccleston was 100 at regeneration, 101 at the most.
Math, 1200-400= 800.
Perfect!
Actually the Doctor was 600 years old when he stole the TARDIS.
no he wasnt 250 is the acknowledged age he still the TARDIS
He’s now as of Season 9 billions of years old... but that now didn’t happen? Ah well.
He was over 1,000 years old in Doctor Who & the Silurian.
"but that now didn’t happen? Ah well. "
Considering he still refers to himself as over 2000 in S10, no.
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You can't ignore 4.5 billion yrs locked away.
I don't buy the theory that the Doctor can't figure out his age... He's part of one of the first time traveling races, and they're time sensitive. He can't adjust his age, as well, because that would mean it would jump around entirely, and both classic and new Who show a steady progression, just a difference between the actual number. Lying about his age after the Time War is the only sensible explanation.
The time war and him losing his memory could account for him losing track of his age
Crusty Pete's Day Old Meat Platter my theory is that when the 8th doctor said he lost track of his age (remember: the 8th doctor had very VERY bad memory) and that he was restarting, he actually did restart his age. And I also assume he had a relatively short life considering when he regenerated he looked pretty young comparatively. Not as young as 10 obviously but young. 10 just got the short end of the stick like no wonder he didn't want to regenerate he lived for what 3 years tops? That's less than a Galifreyan year
Thanks for the analysis!
So he's got 2194 or 3203??
Not counting the billions of years in heaven sent, I say he's actually around 4500 years old. Taking Big Finish into account.
Also the Seasons of War charity anthology gives an out about why he's younger. The Doctor gives up many of his memories so that he can be younger again to fight
The Whoniverse after the finale: WELL FUCK ME, RIGHT?
I loved it. I've always been a Brains of Morbius proponent. Instead of knowing only the last 13-14 chapters of the Doctor, there are more hidden volumes out there.
As James Franco said in the Interview, "same same, but different"
One bit of information, the 7th Doctor is lying. The Sixth Doctor was 990 during his travels with Mel. The Doctor Who Fandom wiki has the Doctor's timeline gathered from all different forms of media (TV, Audio, Comics, Prose, etc.). I highly recommend it as a source of you want to look beyond the show for figuring out certain events.
I've been telling people of the age flux with the 8th doctor so many times
I dunno but it was a shame he died in 2017. RIP Doctor.
How old is the elderly first doctor should the question not how long has he lived the first doctor was only 104 and a half if you remember he was on average in the tarids for five hundred years on earth after leaving his home planet so he would in his early years as he is the first doctor so it would seem? Unfortunately for the doctor this means he left for earth a million years a heard of his own birth but it would have been possible for him 5o get to earth with help from another where travel through his own timeline get there before he left his home planet I say this because think for a minute if the doctors is that old he would be older than the leader of the time lord?
He was born a 5 million years ago at or is he?
the doctor is as old as he needs to be
so we are jusst dismissing the fact that he spent 4.5billion years trapped in the "torture castle"? or we just dont count it as the last copy hardly spent more than few days in it? Im kinda confused as the time lords did say he is over 4.5b years old and on the next episod he claims to be only 2000
to S10 it doesn't count.
Woo thats a lot of birthday
50 years of being a teenager? That sounds horrible!
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What about the billions of years he spent in Heaven Sent?
he is 12
Great video
Hmm... To ad the 1009 years seams unlikely. Perhaps the Elexir of life could have deaged him in some way. Let us simply say The 9th Doctor (10th incarnation) lived arround 100 years, the 12th Doctor (14th incarnation) is something about 2200 years old and has lived something between 2200 and 2700 years. give a few years or decades for the time he was alone and not with Clara and the time after her and some time after River. And take a few years or even centuries, in whith he did not take part in the war. But problem: Why did he indicate to 1, that ha is 1500 years older, what would make him only around 1950?
And the Statement of Sexy? Perhaps she did not Count the time they were separatet?
Thankyou some who says the doctor dose age in heaven sent I've been trying to say to loads of people that he does not age in that
Nah the doctor is probably like quintillions of years old as of the woman doctor
He's old.