My Opinion on NME VS INKIE | Controversial GBB 2019 Semi-Final Battle
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- So, what do you guys think about it?
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That's cool! But I Will add that you can achieve infinite sustain with 100% feedback on any delay, especially in helix it could be transformed into a big amount of variations of waveforms. And in New helix 3.0 there even New fx "infinite sustain" so you can go from sine to saw pretty easily, if combined with harmonizer/dist/synth it goes really far. Would like to mention all sounds in my rounds are generated live, with no pre-recorded sounds. Anyway good review! Big up!
Inkie I’m such a big fan! Love your music 😁
Thank you for commenting and by telling us about the machine ! I hope it will be more clear for everyone :).
Ur mixing and transitions is amazing bro!
Инки , в любом случаи , я обожаю твою музыку . Ты для меня самый лучший луп-битбоксер на данный момент , твой стиль мне очень сильно нравится и подходит под меня. Удачи тебе и счастливого Нового Года!
I fucking jammed hard af to your music 🎶 fan from deep south USA lol
Can’t wait for that video bro 😍
❤😁
Chezame u will do a reaction for this video too?
@@EsemOfficial if they do, you will find it on SXIN's channel
Yes please react to the opinion of brez
@@abhipatel5468 I did ask SXIN to react to this battle and he responded by saying- "It will come soon"
On my watch list to check AFTER I released my Analysis on this. 😜
Just like I did ! Waiting on yours now ! 😁
Madox plzz give me a man of culture🙏🙏 love from India ❤️😘🙏
Man of culture 😂😂😂
GOD of culture
"Keep it strange"
Nobody can predict his next move.
i think inkie deserves more for his groundbreaking style and skills he's constantly showing in every routine. truly keeps you in the edge of your seat
This is very true his style is amazing....Reminds me of a foreign type Nine in Nails i love it.....
The
weird thing was that all the judges voted for NME.. It felt like INKIE was not even close... They need bring so real judges.. Like wtf is Sam doing there?.. Shameless
sure, he keeps it real to his own style. but its like beat makers who use a bunch of samples. you like the music but its not attributable to the beat maker... RIGHT?
13:55 I believe the sound comes from 13:22. Probably my favorite sound dude, the air raid siren just gets me every time
That is probably most likely
Yeah maybe
Yes exactly. Thats the sound source . Just sync them in FL and you will figure it out .
GBB needs VAR 😂
This is the best fucking comment ever hahahaha
😂 😂 😂
HAHAHAHAH
What is VAR?
@@echospace7347 Very Annoying Really!
Honestly, Brez...asking “where does that sound come from?”...I mean you know how Inkie constructs his songs. He makes a bunch of sounds that he doesn’t lay on the crowd all at once. I love the way he builds up the anticipation and drops pure genius on the crowd!
Why ?..........
Why you like to torture us........
I can’t wait for 42 hours.....
You know those videos are on Sunday anyway :P haha
Before watching the video, I want to say I love both style but 5-0 is disrespect for Inkie :(
I got it now :D
Bu battle'ı her izlediğimde aklıma gelen şey: acaba turu Inkie'ye verselerdi final nasıl olurdu ? Cidden finale sakladıklarını görmek isterdim
Not necessarily, it could mean it was extremely close by all 5 judges
nme is more catchy
@@milzmusician it was not close, Im a huge Nme fan but inkie should've won 5-0 actually
15:14 Brez.exe has stopped working 😄
Glad you mentioned the beat being off on NME’s second round. It’s always bugged me and I thought I was crazy because I have never seen anyone ever mention it!
Yeah that singing was off as well...
Sad to see Inkie stop doing battles but at least he still makes incredible music on his yt and spotify
Why did he stop?
Why did he stop?
cause of those years judging :)
@@lukescott6630 he surprises everyone in gbb 2018 with his "keep it strange" song and manages to become vice world champion in 2018 against saro
That's why he is judging in next year's gbb
5:0 was WAAYYY to hard and unfair in my opinion but he takes it like a man but its sad....
i mean he must get shoked after this decition from the jugdes...
Both round was sick from him and musik is musik and sad that the jugdes define "music" i meam how should he know this??
Yeah im sorry for inkie...
Chezame : I don't care about 2nd device, I just want music 😂
Then tell him to put on his ipod.
I think nme doing "begin by letting go" again in 2019 was fine. The one nme did in 2018 gbb, he actually stopped mid way cuz he made vital mistakes so doing it again in 2019 was kind of a redemption for himself. it's just cool seeing how he improved alot in one year and coming back from a rough 2018 gbb for him. But overall I agree with you nme still has a lot more to improve in that track.
But he already did it in the world championship too vs Saro so its his 3rd time using it
@@DevillForce He messed it up there too.
@@helenadavis8270 what part did he mess up on?
@@atokadbbx The overdub silent record melody near the end that gets transposed up for the last drop. It's supposed to just be straight sixteenths but it doesn't end up that way.
@@helenadavis8270 oh gotcha
A lot to digest in this one. I appreciate you giving the pros and the cons as you thought it all through. 2nd devices are such a hot topic right now.
Inkie probably the Most genius looper we got here. I do love all loopers, don’t get me wrong, but Inkie is just INSANE
17:38 yes, but he failed, he could not complete the round and lost the battle, you can even see in his face how he seems to say to the public "this time I will not fail"
Next ( my opinion on nme vs brez) gbb 2019🤣😂🤣😂
That's a must I think.
I want to hear Brez's opinion/analysis on that
Well, That was a tie for me. They should keep overtime rounds for LoopStation as well
I always find Inkie's style very experimental sounding. I personally don't care for it but it's always important to have vastly different styles because artists will always draw inspiration from one another.
Brez is hip-hop meets electronic. NME is quite experimental but some of his stuff is like trap/trance. Saro is EDM. MB14 is layered beatbox. Rhythmind to me is like a mini-Saro. Can't really comment too much on the others.
That’s what makes him a good looper. You can’t describe his style. He is his own style
I believe that Brez is the kind of dude that has no haters
He does, but they all love him
@@benzenefire oh yeah i forgot😂
@@benzenefire haha true
Because haters love him.
im not a hater but also not a fan of brez at all
The thing is , Inkie could have done similar or even almost the same sounds by using delay instead of the note generator effect, and it would have been within the rules, but I don't think this would have changed the decision of the judges...
Even with 505only Inkie would have stood out with quality.he just has the knowledge of sounddesign and production skills...
And on top he executes and performs it so well , making it look so easy ...but you don't see the effort it took to prepare and create those tracks.
So where do we or judges draw the line?
Should loopers give a damn about Sounddesign / Mixing and not use eq anymore because it sounds too clean at the end🤷🏼♂️In a mean way :How bad has the quality to be in order to be accepted? Everybody has a different opinion on it ...
I don't agree bro. It took him 10sec to do that synth, and with perfect sound design. With the RC505 it would have taken him like 45 seconds and the sound quality would not have been the same. Also the amp on the Line 6 is nothing compared to the RC505 alone. Just compare his routines (for example World Championship) with and without the Line 6, the quality is not the same.
It's impossible to recreate those sounds and rounds in 3min without his extra device, you know it man come on.
@@BreZBeatbox I should have explained it better I guess .
I didn't wanna say that he could have done this with 505 only , that's impossible , specially in 3 minutes ...no way.
I was speaking about his effect chain on his line 6, so instead of using this note generator , he could have replaced it with a delay effect ( #voicetriggered)and used some other effects afterwards , to make it sound similar to the note generator effect, and it would have been within the rules.
@@gregroxbeatbox5669 True, it would not have sounded the same, and would have taken up his track FX and 1min30 of his round. Most loopers cannot afford this kind of machine. This is where the gap is created and we are in an unequal situation. I would love to have a Line 6 😅
Coming back to watch his before your new video INKIE vs SO-SO. The atmosphere INKIE creates is just soo good. I feel like a fell into a Lovecraft World every time.
As much as I love NME and his music, and he one of my favorite loopers, that one went to Inkie. No doubt, If I was a judge, my vote would be for Inkie, like you said, he was better
Then the second device should not be allowed in first place if it's not acceptable...this is just so lame.
I really love these videos BreZ , I love hearing insight from someone who knows what they are doing and understands the scene on such a personal level.
11:40
Brez : speaking
Me : dancing to the Afrotrance music behind the speaking
MB14: "I'm gonna do everything in my power to keep loop station from evolving".
INKIE: *BEAT DROP WITH NO HANDS!!!*
CROWD: 😱😱😱😱😱
When I first listened to these rounds I couldn't understand what was inkie trying to do (everyone has their personal preferences ) I was always with NME
But now after hearing them multiple tmes, I have to give it to inkie man
Ur a legend Inkie ♥️♥️♥️🔥🔥🔥
Man, I've thought about witch songs Inkie would play If he had won this battle. Man, Oblivion and Avoid were so sick, I guess he had the best part to the final and the crowld would climb the wall with the Inkie's cyberpunk mood.
So pretty much Inkie is ahead of his time
They were not ready for Inkie yet. He deserved the tittle last year for sure. Great video man!
Inkies 1st song very emotional, loved it. he won my heart from that song
15:11 : when you wake up at 3 am to drink water and meet a ghost in the kitchen*
Yeh, beatbox allows creativity which unfortunately adds complexities to the judging, so it can be a tricky situation to decide. Is Alexinho coming on stage or D-low for Saro and Balance ok? there may be nothing in the rules against it but what would the reaction be if the opponent brings someone else to rap, how to decide the limit. Was it ok for rythmind to use the metronome in his final round and although it came from the RC 505, it was for a significant amount of time and a main part of the beat. Hope those things get clarified more clearly for the next battles.
Rules are not clear enough !
i think that slapping the mic with the hand is also „cheating“ but im not sure. the „imagine that“ drop from balance with dlow is not allowed like saro and alexinho did with the mj drop, idk if its actually cheating or not but yea noone knows the rules are so werid in some situations.
@@demibasan1714 The hand beating isnt cheating, it was generated from the hand hitting the mic. A example you could of given, would of been So-So's static inputs by removing the mic from the loopstation and staticly adding the sounds xd
@@rubensantos7925 i think brezs comment on the original comment is the best way to describe it, „rules are not clear enough“. brez is none of my fav loopers but i think he is one the best to understand the complicated art and the ruleset. the fucking rules are just not clear enough i swear.
i thought i was the only one who think that loopstation battles are not beatbox
I have a little bit of that feeling too. In the very beggining, loopstation was certainly very related to beatbox, because there was a limited use of effects. But overtime the category is moving further away from the beatbox. On the other hand, it is also certain that being a good beatboxer helps a lot for you to be a good looper, so loopstation is still beatbox related. Saro, rythmind, mb14 and brez are good examples of this. But I love loopstation anyway.
Especially with 2nd device. I hope I make a vid on this soon
It’s just kinda live production of music lmao
Brez i want you 🥇 GBB loop/solo.
You have the Power.
Just begin with Afrotranse.👌
I really want to know your opinion on who should’ve won 😄
You will see that it is a complex decision haha
@@BreZBeatbox That is very understandable 💯
You really are everywhere bruh
HELL YEAHHHHHH!!!! NEW ANALYSIS VIDEOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! but the wait time is killing me;(
There is no exit from my void....
Now I understand why NMe won. Like don't get me wrong, NME was sick as well, but Inkie was almost literally out of the world. I always thought Inkie won, now I know why the decision was made 5 out of 5, either way, hopefully both Inkie and NME come back next year. Hey Brez, good video, brother!!
It’s like everyone except Rhythmind got robbed when battling against NME. In my opinion, BREZ you beat NME in quarters and Inkie beat NME in semi’s by a mile ... I feel like you and Inkie deserve more.
same!
about his "human" voice is extra device just like so-so when he having fun with cabel and iyt wasnt his woice imo
Trust he sounds so different
That's cabel sound and not a part of human body tho 😂
The dark vibe in the second round by inkie its amazing..
Loved the video! And it is a good conversation to have about where the limit with these second devices is and the mistake SBX made is not making the line clear enough of what is and isn't accepted. It's difficult to find the limit however when beatboxing is forever changing. I feel like both the loopstation and solo/tag team beatboxing has been adapting over the years where musicality is becoming a much more important factor in both rather than mainly being judged on skill/difficulty etc. You see this in beatboxers like Codfish winning which you probably wouldn't have seen7/8 years ago. Change is good but what needs to settled before a competition like this in the future is the boundaries of acceptance so there is no confusion like this between judges and viewers alike.
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Everyone saying no to this comment are lying
Inkie didn't win (i'm not gonna say lost cuz no way does he deserve to lose) because of the judges not knowing about 2nd devices and thinking it was pre-recorded or something. While NME literally had a beat that was off, and he got to the finals with an off beat. Yea right.
Edit: This is all my opinion and there are probs ppl that do like NME and don't care that his beat was off, personally i kinda hate that off beat, ig its not too bad but well
I love brez, he's a very pro analyzer. I like this. Is very proficient. And with that. You have the quality.
dude .. I like " ambition " with saro... it's amazing... love you from egypt 🤍
Wow, what you said at the end about sbx and the judges was such an unfortunate thing that happened . I had no idea. Oh well, I guess looping and looping battles are all still new right? So there's bound to be some mistakes along the way. Hope you're doing well Brez! 😊❤️
I agree with you on NME's second round the beat being off just didn't sit well with me
17:54 yes it is factual that nme did the same routine in last year's gbb but the problem was he failed that time and decided to idk "forfeit" maybe giving balance the win. i think he just wanted to redeem himself and show everyone he can actually do the routine on the gbb stage.
What a mistake?
The mistake is.......
Why you not the winner?
Don't allow the devices or allow them and don't punish for using them.
My guy! Good to see you on UA-cam!
Brez, big ups...I've watched a number of your performances in the various battle competitions and I can say (hopefully humorously!) you come across as a way nicer guy than your competing beatbox counter-part!! You have a fair amount of swagger, rude-boy edge and stage presence for someone so eloquently spoken, articulate; intelligent and decent haha, almost as though they're at odds....I suppose it's whatever it takes to win the battle right?! Keep up the good work, your English is excellent and I enjoy the dive/analysis into the videos you study/critique. Plus the humour on the parodies! One love from Australia :D
If they let him on stage with it, they can’t penalise him for using it.
I heard a version of Kanate in the background towards the outro of your video... A version I never heard before... Does that mean that your next release will be a version of Kanate? I might be overthinking it a little but it is a really cool Easter Egg if that is right! Once again, INCREDIBLE VIDEO! Take care and keep up the awesome work... ESH
Maybe :P. Maybe not the next one but the one after ;)
I Love your Honesty BreZ
♥️👍
Love you bro
Finally someone said that. The beat is of. I love NME, he is creative as hell but he makes mistakes. Anyway this battle was a top one. Inkie - much respect to you bro.. you're the music
More reaction videos like this man. It is so good to watch and explain your perspectives on it. Esh💯
Inkie first round gaved ME Goosebumps to my legs.
Watching this back in 2022, personally, I like the way the looping scene has evolved. Yes I do admit it's lost some of the "beatbox" aspect of it all, but for me looping was always meant to be about the music first and foremost. If I wanted only beatbox skills, I'd watch solo (which I do also).
But to me looping by its very nature was bound to evolve at some point or another in a similar way.
Saro gbb 2017 for me kinda broke the barrier of what styles could be done in a loop station battle. And gbb 2018 personally seemed like a down year or a buffer year (not to say it was bad, just relative to 2017 for me the level was down overall.) Then 2019 gbb, we had people like rythmind evolving further what could be done on the rc505 only. And OFC you have inkie, imo the reason so many loopers today are using a second device. Seeing all the possibilities it adds musically, was for me, on par with the level of influence as someone like Saro had with bring electronic style beats and what not.
And now that I think about it, before Saro, there was Thorsen and before him was Penkyx (there could be more but I really only found the beatbox scene in 2016-2017) but to me the top 3 people who had the biggest impact and change on the scene were
1. Saro
2. Inkie
3. Rythmind
It is complicated to understand this opinion of the judges about the overuse of the second device, but having, who organized the event, allowed the use of the second device. Sensational your opinion about this battle and explained a little my frustration of not seeing the inkie winning this round
If the gbb allowed the 2nd device that inkie was using, the judges shouldn't then start criticising it. People reviewed the device and allowed it. If they felt that the device was a 'keyboard ' then they would've immediately rejected it. Especially nowadays with the mk2 out where you can basically put a panning delay (or any delay), put the feedback to 100 and an osc bot and achieve similar stuff
C'est mon premier commentaire sur UA-cam 😂
Juste bravo pour toutes tes vidéos elles sont vraiment tops que ce soit dans le fond comme dans la forme (le mix entre ta voix et tes musiques en fond est parfait)
Bref très content (côté patriote oblige) d'avoir un français comme toi pour représenter le monde de la musique et de la créativé 💪
Bro ur match with frosty online loopstation was op and I enjoyed ur music and it was different love from India bro love u❤️❤️🔥
Name: nme
Subtitle: enemy
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Isn't that why he chose that nickname
@@lgf-sq9yf LOL😂
@@keithnormanrodriguez2013 how is that funny
syntethyzer means something generating the frequency and other thing shaping the wave eletronicly...
judging at gbb19 was so bad overall in all the categories i can't comprehend it..
Right!!!! How did A cloud, Elisii, Zen-Hit didnt make hit baffles me. Same for Brez.
They are human you now?
@@paladindaril at least brez vs nme one was close but yeah elisii and Zen hit got robbed hard. Not sure that uniteam didn't win tag team but gosh the final would have been much much better
If you listen to NME's round 2 again and again carefully, u can hear all the mistakes he did so INKIE just GOT ROBBED.
Ayyye brez your face during inkies 2nd round was priceless.....You should do more of these opinion vids
I was feeling it ! :D
We could def tell...
Well I’m gonna be waiting 37 hours without sleep
Imo nme's second round was really good, I can't really see the mistake he made, maybe I just need to listen to a better version or something but I really liked it. Inkie did a great job in creating the dark vibe and atmosphere, they are both great loopers and I'd like to hear more from them.
We need more of those reactions!!!!! great video
Love seeing you reacting to GBB keep it going 🔥🔥
Man pls bring more reactions, this is so awesome!
So objective and true, that's why I love you so much.
Thank you
Would be dope to see your opinion on Tioneb beating Robin in GBB 2017, that was pretty questionable imo
The second device effect probably?
Thanks for this reaction, you convinced me. I think a second device should be allowed, but the rules have to be clear and should be accepted (even by the judges) 😉
Great video Brez, I hope you do more like this in the future!
18:27 Finally. Someone. SOMEONE SAID IT !!!
Also, I feel Brez's channel is so original and underrated. First of all, he's an EXPERT in what he describes and reacts to. Second, his reactions are legit and are not forced just for views, even for the thumbnails. He keeps it all simple and describes the whole video, and that's what is needed for knowing more about the artform itself bro.
(And yes I'm a fanboi so don't come here thinking to debate on who's the best reaction channel)
Inkie losing and NME winning because of the fact that inkie used second device is like usain bolt losing a race against a man with one leg missing. Usain finished faster but man finished with only one leg and the rule said nothing against using two legs.
Damn, this is a perfect analogy
I love your reactions and giving opinions. Love from Indonesia
Bro, I am looking forward to the Second device video. I really want to know about it.
By the way nice content.
thanks for this video,Brez
Big up!
My take on this is if swissbeatbox allows it then the judges need to accept that. It's not for the judges to decide to remove someone because they have an opinion of the rules. They judge on performances. He didn't break a set rule. It's not on swissbeatbox its on the judges.
bro i love u so much
Can't wait for your video on second devices. :)
Nice review BreZ, i have something want to say here:
After watch the reaction video and read the fact about the second device by Inkie, i'm confused. Is Inkie lost the ticket to go to the Final by a mistake? Are you kidding me? If they not made this mistake, i think the Final will be a legendary round. Rythmind is really awesome with only one device, Inkie is the special looper, i don't care about he use one or two device, because i know all the sound he recorded are all come from him, and no one want to cheating in this battle, no one want it. As you can see because of this mistake, now anyone who really a looper and beatboxer when reaction to Inkie, they all said this: "is he cheating?" :) Now thinking about he really cheat in this battle with NME, that not a mistake, how far this bad thing will go? That will become a real disappointed and a dirty in GBB history :)
Anyway that all i think, sorry if i rude because my English not really good :(
Love the loopstation and all the loopers
Actually NME messed up this routine of his "begin by letting ago" against Balance the previous so he was out of the competition, then he did this routine again to finish his song
Inkie's first round kinda gives me Interstellar vibes 😍😍
I am on the beardyman side of everything is from the mouth no samples part. Any sound crafting goes, no matter how it is achieved. But any input used must be done live. And if no mic was used it has to sound completely silent. Inkie's method qualifies for that in my opinion.
Woah brez for next gbb judge??????
Im really excited for that video you were talking about! I want to know why you don't like 2nd devices..
Kristof came to my mind xD
i always had an issue with this battle thanks for explaining it
I can't wait for another your video reaction. :)