How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
"Nog vele ander goed" Soos onderdrukkers, rassiste, grond diewe, mense regte skenders, verkragters, meerderwaardigheids kompleks. Moet ek nog byvoeg, jou eenogige aap.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
This is amazing. Your family in South Africa goes back 330 years. Yet your mannerisms are so like my father! His name was Meindert de Boer and he immigrated to New Zealand from Friesland in Northern Holland. Despite the centuries apart your way has been retained. I cannot help being reminded of him when I watch this
Ahora en español!!!! es necesario que los hispano hablantes sepan el origen de Sudafrica ya que lamentablemente las organizaciones mundiales han prohibido que la verdad llegue a las escuelas y libros dejando solo un verso y mentira en la historia. El Sr Swart es historiador no tan solo agricultor, motivos de sobra para prestar atencion y aprender. Mis respetos y agradecimiento!
Wait, who is saying the white afrikaaners from South Africa are mixed. They more European than the Europeans, because they were not mixing here in Africa. Well the ones that was is now coloureds lol.
Actually the San hunter gatherers was the first people. When the Khoi arrived with there flocks of sheep they where in conflict with the San, when the Bantu arrived in Natal around 1600 there where conflict between all three groups. In 1647 with the first Europeans settlement in Cape Town (Nieuw Haarlems shipwreck) the conflict also with the San. The San and Khoi where squeezed between Bantu expantion from the east and European Trekboers from the west. Today there are no San nor Khoi left in the South. Only mixed decendats as proofed by DNA. The Nama is the closest Khoi group to the South.
Khoi-Khoi people are basically a mix between a Cushitic group and San. The Cushitic people who migrated Southwards were closest to the Amhara people of Ethiopia...
God says the Koi & San both came from the 'Pigmee' who are snake people. Cmndr Loohan says they are negative energy beings, nasty black magicians, who use their children for sex...all the snake people actually do that, except the 'Pigmee'
Thank you so much, Matthys Johannes, I found this very interesting. Your English is good and easy to understand. And i appreciate you sharing this with us all. Thank you again, Laraine.
Your English was excellent and you were very clear and articulate. That's amazing that you have photos of so many of your ancestors. Well done for keeping them, I hope your descendants treasure them. I am amazed at how long your family have been living in South Africa, you are truly African. Thanks for sharing this with us.
It's however a bioinformatics exercise which had limitations. E.g. How would do they know which DNA-markers are to be attributed to which ethnicity. It's based on probabilities of course and makes assumptions. It is not based on certainties.
Yes ,South African history they are trying to phase out ,but ships logbooks don't lie , they said that aborigines were tan to brown people ,that make them Khoisan ,nothing was mentioned about black people and these people were friendly towards the people that stepped on their shores ,blacks were brought here through way of different slave ships slaves from different African countries,that's why only South Africa had 10 different tribes ,and not other African countries. When slavery was abolished they were set free ,and that is how their journey began ,different tribes means tribal wars that was the 1700's ,ours started in 1752 when Jan Van Riebeeck build a trading station where ships could stop to get refreshments on their way to the silk and spice countries. You see we were already here when the black people arrived here no one stole land .
@@tokkieandrews9988 Bear in mind that the Hottentots were Nomadic people and the Bushmen were hunters and gatherers. That doesn't exactly yield high food production required to sustain larger populations. There were *some* people at *some* places in the Cape, but that's it. Landownership was unknown and essentially ad usum principles were applied. But try to get a sober approach to the pre-history of the RSA, you are gonna struggle. Post-Modernism destroys historiography like anything else. No appreciation of sources, no logic, no weighted probability. It's a shame and a sign that cultural production has ceased its value over time. JvR had the trading station build in 1652.
@@tokkieandrews9988 you were not here african blacks where here and will forever be here , The delusion is on another level 😮 Africa is for black people now you can’t lie about that how the hell would Europeans be in Africa before Africans And you think if you’re people were here before the First Nations/ Aboriginals do you honestly think with your racist attitude and inhuman behaviour would let black people here ? No I don’t think so
As a colored guy from cape town. Currently living in limpopo. Honestly this is amazing. I wish i could pull up heritage like this for my family ... damn... 11 generations oom hulle is regtig geseen ❤❤
😂 wel die enigste rede waarom ek 11 generasies kon he is omdat my pa en oupa en grootjie so sentimenteel was en alles neergeskryf en gebere het. As dit nie so was nie het ek dit ook nie gehad nie. Net n vragie: Hoe hou jy uit in Limpopo???? Veralng jy nie die Kaap nie? 🙂
Interessant. No big surprises. At times I thought that the persistance of the Boers implied that they were from a small group. For instance in Zeeland or on Urk I think there are large families with common traits often as a result of centuries of battling with water , fishing and so on A very hard life, many children lost. But from your description de Boers are much like anyone from NW Europe. So my superficial image was wrong ... But thank you. Luck plays a big role in life. 1. Are you healthy? 2. Did you have loving parents? 3. Were you born in a stable country? 4. Are you reasonably intelligent? 5. Did you get sufficient education? It also helps to be good looking..but clearly mostly not all criteria are fulfilled But we humans struggled and make the best if it, certainly by helping one and another.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
As a South African born and bred now living in the UK I found this fascinating. I had the idea that my heritage came from French Belgium and Dutch Hugeonots But there's so much more richness in our history.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Very interesting indeed. Thank you for sharing this. It would be interesting to know how long some of our political leaders ancestors have resided in SA compared to for example yours.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
This lesson of RSA boer history should be a compulsory subject in all schools. So many misconceptions and myths will be dispelled and the truth about the land being stolen is false. Thank you for such an informative and interesting lecture about your family tree and DNA.
Who wrote the history of south Africa. Who was there in the land when your family arrived there. Was anyone displaced to make room for your family as it was in Zimbabwe. They forced blacks yo desert area, The TTLs
We are all African BS. In fact recent research revealed humanoid remains in the Caucasus were as nearly as old as those found in E. Africa and it was determined by dating that it was impossible for those people to have migrated from Africa to the Caucasus in such a short period of time.
Thank you for sharing your heritage with us. You must be very proud of the six generations who forged a new community in a very far away place. They seem like very strong upstanding people. Now my one question is that of course your lineage is “Pure” European, as I’m sure they were strong, social strictures in place regarding marriage and procreation, etc. and yet we know that many illegitimate children are born, often from mothers of a different race, but they’re never acknowledged as the father’s child, would not get his last name, etc. as he is “illegitimate.” So I’m assuming there are a fair number of mulatto children who over the generations, became lighter skinned, or darker skinned, and that you represent a group of people who did not mix, but there were many who did, or who did, but never took responsibility for the child. Would this be correct?
You are completely right, the Cape coloured people absorbed the the cases you mentioned. Also the left over of the Khoi people after the Small pocks epedemic was assimilated in the Cape Coloured comunity. The DNA of the Cape Coloured consist mainly out of different groups like Khoi, European, Bantu, Indian and Malasian. the last group was former slaves. In the Cape there where never that amount of slaves like in the "New world" because it was a bit of wine farming but the rest was sheep, horse and cattle farming for which you do not need much labour. A big part of slaves from India and Malaisia was people that was convicted into slavery by Dutch colonial authority for certain crimes or behavior. The European part of the Cape Coloured mainly originated from seafearing countries. Many ships stopped over at the Cape for rest and repairs on the way to the East. The DNA of the Cape coloured show this as well as their European decent mailnly from Britian and a lesser part from the Netherlands. But French and German origin almost none...( The Afrikaner people had by 1800 more German blood than Dutch, followed by French.) Here are DNA results from Cape Coloured person : 24.92 % Westren European , 24,91 Southern Asia, 12.83% South East Asia, 8,13% Khoisan, 10.31% Bantu, 2,7% Arabia, 2,34% Middle Eastern. DNA researh on this group results on paternal side looks like this for Cape Coloured: Haplo group E (Africa) 27%, Haplo group R (Europe) 23% , Haplo Group FG (Arabia/Iran) 13% . Haplo group O (East Asian) 13% , Haplo group J (North African) 6%, Haplo Groups T and H (South Asia, India and Pakistan) 8% , Haplo Group A and B (Khoisan) 6% . Hope it give a better understanding..
This is actually part of SA history that gets glanced over a lot. @kykso pretty much covered the Cape Coloured grouping but before VoC started using the Cape as sort of Malay penal colony you had the first free burghers starting what would become the first of the mixed race groupings. These were young men out of the poor communities out of Europe whose 10 year contracts with the VoC ran out and did not want to go back to Europe or sign up again with the VoC. So they started the first independent farms around the Cape Colony which in those days was only the size what is now central Cape Town. This was before the immigration of families to the Cape Colony so they took wives from local Khoi tribes or took slave woman as common law wives and raise the children as their legitimate children and from them you various unique mixed race groupings who were the first to move out of the Cape because they disliked the VoC and their policies 100 years before the Voortrekkers started the Great Trek alater collectively became known as Trekboers. Later on a lot of the mixed groupings would unite as the Basters later known as the Griqau and establish their own independent states between the then British Cape Colony and Boer State.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Thank you, it is interesting! Im interested in the dates when Xhosa arrived at 80 years after your grandfather!! The world needs to hear more about that, they have no clue what happened in SA. Deel asb die waarheid met die wêreld. Dankie vir u moeite, dit word waardeer. Groete!
That is why its a total lie when black people say white settlers stole their land, Even when van Riebeeck landed in 1652 no black people lived in the Cape, was only Xio San and Hottentots,
Get out of denial. Stop your spin. Black people were here long before Jan Van Riebeck landed. Get real. Africa is for African people and white people cannot lay claim. Terra nullius indeed. Utter tosh. G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
@redmatters9318 This man has documentary proof for what he says. You should the disprove him by submitting verified documentary proof, instead of just blurting out the old misleading misinformation that is currently being pushed down everybody's throats. In Afrikaans - jy praat k*k
My 2c: I reckon my heritage in this country is mostly Afrikaner Boer as is my half-brother's. His DNA is 98% European (Barnard/Slabber) while I am only 89%(Conradie/Slabber). We both have documented slave ancestry, mainly Asian (at least 2 well-known manumitted slaves). Most of our documented European and Asian ancestors have also been here since Jan van Riebeeck's time. So we have been here for a while. But my point is that not all Boers' DNA is going to look like yours. And that is OK.
Very interesting. I am an Afrikaans speaking Du Toit, my forefathers came in with the French Huguenots (1688). My mother was a Vermaak girl Dutch/Hollands and she had some Irish blood too, Eager that came in 1820 with some British settlers.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Don't say we're defined by our culture only, has you culture and so on came out of nothing? Come on, admit that you are proud of being 100% European! if you ain't, you should!
@@kykso Great that we're on agreement!!... we're living in a world of self-destructing false humility, so often shrowded in arrogance, nothing like a healthy, positive pride to stay foot against the tide! BTW, as you may realise, i'm new to your channel (it's appearing quite ineteresting) and i was trying to watch some vids with subtitles but i can't. Is the problem on your end or mine?
Your narrative in English was flawless. South Africa is much like any other new world country being a melting pot of numerous nationalities to form a new nationality. I arrived in South Africa in the late 60’s as a baby from England but left in 2002 due to increasing tension and conflict. Perhaps if things had been different, I would have become a forefather of future South Africans.
That tension has only continued. Just yesterday our dog was poisoned so now we're perparing ourselves since they'll probably try and break in this long weekend
At the 11 : 18 we see mention of English lineage, notwithstanding Roman, Goth or Norman influence, we must remember that many 'Saxons' are originally from Sachsen-Anhalt / Lower Saxony (or Niedersachsen).
The only Afrikaner are the Khoisan kultuur 'eiegoed' like the Afrikaner cattle and Afrikaner sheep the Boers stole from the Khoisan. When the Boers decided they are Afrikaners they committed Khoisan cultural genocide. They will never escape the karma.
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All very interesting... Unfortunately the further we go back into DNA history the more "wishy-washy" it becomes for our limited technology to read our past lineage from the DNA. But, if we could go all the way back to the beginning, we would realize that we are in fact ALL brothers in sisters, no matter our Race, Culture, Traditions or Heritage! Thank you for sharing.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Bhahaa!! 😂 Dat is kicke hé!! Dit is allemaal wel geweldig om te lezen hoor!! Wat een taal hè!!? Ik heb ook echt het idee dat jullie dit net zo goed kunnen lezen. Groetjes uit Holland! 👋🙋🏼♂️😃
Ons verstaan Nederlands heel goed. Met my besoeke aan Nederland het ek nooit Engels gepraat nie, maar slegs Afrikaans en die kommunikasie was heel goed gewees.
Op skool het bykans alle Afrikaans sprekende kinders ten minste 2 voorgeskrewe Nederlandse leesboeke gehad...so ,om Nederlands te kan lees en verstaan is vir my maklik,selfs na baie jare op die ouderdom van 70. Ek herinner my nou daaraan dat een van die boeke se titel was "Bellen Blasen". Gaat je wel..😄
A crucial fact, they came to SA worked, purchased land, began to farm to help themselves and feed others! There was no stealing! Ons Boere, ek is trots!
"Trekboers have already reached the banks of the Fish River in the Eastern Cape by the end of 1770. On the other side, they found the Xhosa`s that moved southwestwards. It was the first time after 118 years in Southern Africa that white and black met each other. The Trekboers (farmers) and the Xhosa are both stopped in their movements. The trek farmers from moving east and the Xhosa from moving west. The Fish River becomes the natural boundary between the two groups. In November 1779, the Xhosa crossed the Fish River, into the Cape Colony. Chief Rarabe crossed the Colony border at Bruintjieshoogte (today in the Pearston district) and began to steal cattle and livestock, burning farmhouses and murdering farmers. These invasions occurred in both Swellendam and Stellenbosch districts. (The Graaff Reinet district was founded in 1786 only.) Two commandos assembled in the summer of 1779-1780. The one commando of Stellenbosch (Bruintjeshoogte) under Joshua Joubert, the other Swellendam (West of the Bushman`s River) under Peter Hendrik Ferreire. The first border war began with the Xhosa. Although many cattle could be gained back, the commandos could not drive back all Xhosa from where they came from. On October 24, 1780, Adriaan van Jaarsveld took over the commando`s command of both the two commandos as Field commander. The tribesmen who crossed the river were instructed to return to which only one chieftain Langa moved back. Van Jaarsveld then took on the rest in battle. The ox wagons of the commando was put in a circle and the openings closed with thorn branches. Stock and draft animals are protected only by handful of men inside this laager, while Van Jaarsveld and the rest attack the Xhosa. It was the first time that a Laager was drawn in the history of the Afrikaner. In the campaign that lasted from May 23, 1781 to July 19, the Xhosa was crushed and driven back over the Fish River. 5300 cattle were taken back and the commando`s dissolved "
I am a descendent of Kratoa , Khoi khoi strandloper. The dutch traded with the Khoi Khoi to obtain land. Kratoa married Pieter van Meerhof and many Afrikaaners cary her bloodlines.
I am Indian 3rd generation South African, with Persian ancestry and My great grandfather was Dutch... surname Holland. Thanks Meneer for a great episode.
Hi im also afrikaans I want to share this with you .I did my DNA when I lived in america. But my DNA stopped in Germany. So I was interested in where was my DNA before the 1500 and 1600 .so I went to an older DNA review and I discovered a lot of Jewish ancestors. So I looked even more deeper .and I tested to an older database. And it come out to my oldest ancestors are from isreal.
@@juditkoncz1020 is that so? Azami Bishara ( a terrorist supporter and a spy against Israel would say there is no Palestine: ua-cam.com/video/P3n5-yG-6dU/v-deo.htmlsi=5TeavBwq5Vnq09uL And he is not alone on "their" side. But you probably don't care cause the ancestors told you different.
Very interesting, but unfortunately the hatred of the black people against the Afrikaner just delete all true facts and they will kling onto all deceiving concepts and lies. They will rather believe the sangoma and witch docter stories and obey their commands.
Can you really blame black people for the hatred against the Afrikaaner? I mean seriously? Just go back to 1976, not so long ago. Google Steve Biko and others, read up on the pass laws, the immorality act, the land act, the anti-terrorism act, the laws around forced removals to matchbox houses in townships…need I continue?
@@norahappolus8994 The true atrocities of that time i can count on my one hands fingers. The laws you mentioned were necessary to maintain law and order. Which by the way is still not achieved in this new dispensation. So if i want to make a list of criminalities and atrocities of the new dispensation it will cover a distance from here to Kairo. So pls stop throwing mud balls and get a clear grip on reality.
@@norahappolus8994this is just DNA of one man. There is a lot of mixed local blood in South Africa. People here also come to find work from sister countries. Malaysian blood is mostly in the Cape. Afrikaans is a long established language, mostly from European languages but spoken by different race groups here. Friend of mine Zimbabwean born has ethnic blood from Mozambique to Cape to Zimbabwe. So it difficult to define people by splitting hairs and putting them in boxes.
@@norahappolus8994always remember that any govt in history to current, does not represent all peaceful peoples ideas. There is no room for hate based on colour, if you don't know people's hearts.
I am wondering what impact ZyCov-D and Plasmids will have on the Mitochondrial DNA that we have all inherited? I also have concerns what impact this BioNTech Serum will have on our Patrineal lineage? I am strongly against Genetic Editing.
When submitting DNA there shld be no name so they cant guess from the sound of the surname. Your DNA is more you than your culture DNA ljterally is you.
I was send over the link by an ZA friend since history interests me. None of that in school about these things. Very interesting. If you speak English you have the same pronounciation that most Flemish or Dutch people have who have not been influenced by US tv shows or movies. I am from Belgium and there are a lot of 'Afrikaanse woorde' that are being used that I know from certain dialects here or that I learned from my grandparents. You even use sayings in Afrikaans that are old Flemish but are still being used. Actually here the dialect changes every like 30km so I hear things or sayings that I know come from the coastal areas or some cities. You are very lucky to have a stamboom that is complete and even have these old pictures. I hope you have digitalized them for future generations. If you would be here in this country your looks and way of talking would fit right in. You could be my neighbor. As for the DNA from Southern Europe you have to dive deeper in the history of Europe. There has been a lot of travel and movement in the last 2000 years. The Romans, Germans and French were here in the Flanders over a couple of hunderds of years. Also the last name is not something that obvious. If you did this UA-cam in Afrikaans I would have no issue understanding it. Afrikaans is that close to Flemish or Dutch after you have heard it for a while and you get used to different way some words are used. The tenses is something that might have changed in those 300 some years. I've never looked that one up. All in all top video, enjoyed it a lot!
Vlaams is naby aan Afrikaans. Flemish is easier to understand than Dutch, but I never spoke English in the Netherlands when I visit. I get along very well with Afrikaans there and comunication was not that difficult.
7 generaciones from great grandparents time I wonder if the little ones will know who were there ansesters if there’s no one to tell?nice to know the first settlers had such a peacefull life as farmers
Your great great great grandfather looks like a man that you do not want him to find you trespassing on his land, your family photos have been kept in excellent condition, good work.
I had my DNA test and found that i am mostly English but, I have the following. Balkan on my grandmothers(my moms mom) didnt know about it. Scottish from my dads side knew about that the surprise was Swedish we which is from grandmother/grandfather/great uncle/aunty but, have no idea about that one. I also have worldwide over 9000 cousins that relate to me so yes we could well all be related somewhere alkng the line.
There are a few fundamental limitations with current DNA tests that should be kept in mind. Your full DNA is not sequenced unless you pay specifically for it, and thus certain markers (partial sequences) are used. This means that entire hereditary relations can be missed (for example, you could miss a forefather from a different continent). However, even if you sequence your full DNA, then there is the much more important limitation of reference human genomes. If you are 80% Irish, it is because the people (of the small fraction globally) whose DNA had been sequenced previously, had claimed to be ethnically Irish. Thus you are compared to a subjective reference. I am saying this as an Afrikaner with 1 or 2% South Asian ancestry and the rest mostly British/Northern European, but even that is not really reliable. There is yet another problem, even if you narrow down reference genomes, which is that when you are associated with where on earth is also partially subjective-we are almost certain to have all lived in Africa around 50 thousand years ago. Not to mention Neanderthal or Denisovan genes that we know for a fact are part of our genomes. Then there are the examples of identical twins who both have used these "consumer" tests and gotten significantly different results.
Totally agree. Ek het `n Hollandse buurman gehad wat gese het:' Roei met die spane wat jy het!" Currently we have this tools and it just give some indication at least.
Hi, well you could use different dna companies to do it. Costs around R3000 per test. If you google DNA tests for South Africa you will find different companies to choose from. I hope it help. Will be nice if you do it and share your results. Great weekend for you.
It is also a fact that we are all descended from Noah's sons. Japheth is the ancestor of the Europeans. Sem of the Asians and Ham of the Africans and partly the Middle East
My Vader is n Skot ...van Normandië..sy nasate almal 7 geslagte Norman's..My Moeder van Pole 7 geslagte terug ook van die Breslau familie Lyn..hul voorsate Russies..En een verdwaalde niggie van Nederland se koningshuis...in my familie is Geen koi Zulu of xhosa Nie..my ouma grootjie geleef toe en jonk was..sy was n Breslau Al haar nasate is getroud met goeie bloed Lyne..ook 7 jaar terug genavors.. Afrikaans is my 6e Taal...interresant waar mense vandaan kom...
Not surprising from. A scumbag who believes lies and live of others ! You will reap what you sow ! What you think is bad for you now , it will be like nothing when the true black power prevails! Ask France
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
Many protestants who were protesting against the darkness and error of catholicism and the terrible persecution (most protestants don't protest anymore! And have carried on with erroneous beliefs that are not scriptural) fled Europe in their hundreds and thousands to South Africa to live in relative peace and safety. That is why many south Africa Africans do have European blood in them... Genetically... Thank you I found your talk very sincere.
That's nonsense, 1652 with Jan van Riebeek dates colonialism! Whites were here centuries before that and it didn't begin in Cape Town. It's started in Kenya German Greeks which are the Boers have been here even longer than the formations of Europe! Europe itself comes from the Greeks and Germans and there's vast literature on this. It's only western europe (Latin Europe & Dutch) that sells the narrative that it started in 1652. Cleopatra was a Greek!
Are you also a native Afrikaans speaker? I am from The Netherlands and your accent even sounds specifically like person from Rotterdam city talking english, very interesting how close it sounds to that.
I have spanish , Portugese , French , mostly with some russian , Baltic Ashkenazi Jewish and balkan in my dna . The Anatolia (Turkey) part of dna shocked me . Explains why i look like an African but the way i behave is very unafrican
Beautifully done and masterfully executed! I'm inspired by you to consider my own such journey into the past. I am part of the more modern day 'diaspora' having left SA for New Zealand in 1999, surnames Loggenberg, Venter (paternal) and Mienie, (Unkown) maternal.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
I had this DNA analysis done. I always thought I was English ( South African) because all four grandparents came from the British Isles. Turns out no, I'm mid European, North European, Scots, Irish and Welsh! English not mentioned. Being South African, I was surprised to find I'm rather happy about this😊
all white people who moved to South Africa from 1600 and later forefathers come from Europe, i am of German and British blood on my father's side, mother's side is French and British, well When one says it's British it could be Welsh Irish Scottish,
@@richardwebb9532 yes i have read about that, well here on ytube is a video about how strong the German linage is in the British royal house of today, Before William or up to William theres apparently more german blood in the britsh royal house than british blood if i remeber correctly ,
Hi Kykso. Interesting to hear your history story. I even learned something from it. Never knew that the European Boer settlers were there even before the indigenous tribes (or was it only the one tribe you mentioned that came 80 years after the Boers?). The DNA results are always interesting for everyone I think. I always thought to be real 'Hollands' with some German / French blood. I'm from Holland descendants proven since 1650. But the DNA test results also showed 26% English, 14% Scandinavian and even 1% Middle East/Arabian. Same as in your story no clue how that came in my pedigree. By the way, your English was very good to understand. 👍 Baie groeten uit Nederland en blyf interessante vlogs maak. Hans.
Smit is a Dutch name from origin. Coetzee could either be French (Gaucher) or South Netherlands (Cudsee) Kellerman is German (Kellermann) Vorster is Dutch in origin (dukedom Brabant), and was actually based up on a job between 500 AD up to 1500 AD. This was basically a judicial officer. Kühn is German in origin Jacobs is Dutch in origin. Funny to hear you actually speak it in the Dutch way as well, so South Afrikaans still kept that I see. Botha is a very interesting name actually, I think I can't do this justice on my own so i'll use the wikipedia entry if you don't mind (in Dutch): "Botha of Both of Bode is een achternaam die voorkomt in het Nederlands taalgebied, en afkomstig is uit de regio Friesland en Noord-Duitsland. De naam is afkomstig van het Germaans Butha en Proto-Indo-Europees duta, dat "boodschapper" betekent." South African Wiki says this: "Botha is 'n familienaam wat algemeen onder Afrikaners in Suid-Afrika en in die Nederlandse taalgebied voorkom. Die van kom oorspronklik van die omgewings van Friesland en Noord-Duitsland. Dit is afgelei van die Germaanse Butha en Proto-Indo-Europese duta, wat "boodskapper" beteken." What this means, Botha (or variations of it) is a VERY old name and has a lot of history to it. Retief name might be French in origin, but I'm not sure about that. Malan is from Farao islands, so it has a Danish background as well as English. Boshoff is Dutch and (north-west) German in origin, but most of this family actually lives today in South Africa. Klerk is Dutch in origin van der Merwe is Dutch in origin. If you see a name with things like "de" "van der" and such in front of it, you can pretty much always trace it back to the Netherlands.
@@kyksoHow stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?! A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
My ancestors arrived at the Cape in 1658 leaving the Netherlands in 1657. Then again from France in 1689. And then from Gemany in 1691. My mother's family.
I hear you talking about the Xhosa people coming to South Africa AFTER your ancestors came to the Cape, but you conveniently forget that there were people in the Cape before your ancestors got here. It may help you to sleep better at night, but the Khoi and San people were the original people who lived in the Cape and who were enslaved by the Dutch and later by the English who had convinced them that none of the land belonged to them, since they were nomadic. I think that you need to stop convincing yourself that your people landed on an uninhabited continent and therefore it belongs to you.
Jonathan, my voorouers het eers die Overberg in getrek nadat die Khoi deur die pokke epidemie getref was en die VOC nie meer vee kon ruil van die stamme nie. Ek het nog nooit gestry dat die eerste inwoners die SAN was nie. Na die SAN het die Khoi gekom. Vandag is die Khoi uitgestref behalwe vir die noordelike stamme die Nama en verder noord die Damara, maar die Damara het reeds heelwat Bantu dna. Gaan kyk maar na die DNA van die mense wat hulself vandag die eerste mense noem. Daar is baie min Khoi bloed oor....
I found the St Helena part of your family history interesting. My ancestry on my fathers side also comes from there. The ancestors was Cpt Gewan Hamilton who was Napoleons custodian whilst he was a prisoner there. He was the Captain of Hms Havana, the war ship tasked with securing the island. He and Napoleon didn't enjoy each other very much needless to say. It is probable that your ancestor personaly knew mine. Best regards to you and your family.
My van is Melville maar dit was veronderstel om Roux te wees. Albei my ouers is van Afrikaanse oorsprong, my uitslae was 99% Europees, en omtrent 1% "Middle East" maar daar was ook (onder die Europese deel) 20% Suid Europa/Griekeland/ Balkans. Die res was meestal Noordwes Europa.
My family came out from Germany just before 1700s. They were two Augustyn brothers, Jan Abraham Augustyn en Gert Matthys Augustyn. Their family was from polish descent before that. They settled in the Cape area. Their home language became Afrikaans eventually. The two brothers were protestants fleeing the catholic persecution.
Dankie vir die video. Ek het verwag dat jy dalk 'n klein persentasie Suid Indies of Maleis sou gehad het soos ek (my oupa groetjie is op St Helena gebore).
I have Dutch and British blood in my veins, with some French. Im so proud to be Afrikaans but also so proud to be of European descent. My family consists of these surnames: Verstrate (Dutch), Haggard (British), Martin (British) and more.
I am a Afrikaner blond and blue eyed I had English and German people saying I have black blood and they have not meanwhile I am lighter of colour than they
I am a Afrikaner blond and blue eyed I had English and German people saying I have black blood and they have not meanwhile I am lighter of colour than they
I am a Afrikaner blond and blue eyed I had English and German people saying I have black blood and they have not meanwhile I am lighter of colour than they
I am a Afrikaner blond and blue eyed I had English and German people saying I have black blood and they have not meanwhile I am lighter of colour than they
I'm a Boer. Van Zyl ancestors from 1600's . Did my dna, am Germanic, Anglo Saxon and Scandinavian. Most Boers have English dna, but they don't like to hear it. 😂
Baie insiggewend! Trots op my voorouers mense met sterk karakters en nog vele ander goed ook.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
"Nog vele ander goed" Soos onderdrukkers, rassiste, grond diewe, mense regte skenders, verkragters, meerderwaardigheids kompleks. Moet ek nog byvoeg, jou eenogige aap.
I am from the island Kingdom of Tonga in the South Pacific region. Thank you very much Kykso for sharing your DNA. God bless you and your family.
I have been to Tonga beautiful place❤️
@@mariagrobler837 And some formidable rugby players, South Africa has met them!
Fefe Hake, I have been to Tonga Tapu, and Vava'u, my father is from Niue, but live in Aotearoa/New Zealand
Dankie dat jy gedeel het. Altyd interessant as mens in voorgeslagte, geskiedenis en genetika belangstel
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
This is amazing. Your family in South Africa goes back 330 years. Yet your mannerisms are so like my father! His name was Meindert de Boer and he immigrated to New Zealand from Friesland in Northern Holland. Despite the centuries apart your way has been retained. I cannot help being reminded of him when I watch this
GREAT CULTURES ARE FOR EVER
My forebears came from Boazum
Beautiful comment. (I am also a South African Afrikaner)
@@pietdutoit3517 TODAY S AFRICA HAS ACHIEVED WAR HUNGER SLAVERY DISEASE AND FASCISM AFTER WE LEFT. ALL AFRICA TOO
@@pietdutoit3517 NO WATER, ELECTRICITY, AMBULANCE, FIRE BRIGADES...IN ALL MAJOR CITIES.
THEY CAN'T BLAME WHITE MAN
Ahora en español!!!! es necesario que los hispano hablantes sepan el origen de Sudafrica ya que lamentablemente las organizaciones mundiales han prohibido que la verdad llegue a las escuelas y libros dejando solo un verso y mentira en la historia. El Sr Swart es historiador no tan solo agricultor, motivos de sobra para prestar atencion y aprender. Mis respetos y agradecimiento!
Wait, who is saying the white afrikaaners from South Africa are mixed.
They more European than the Europeans, because they were not mixing here in Africa.
Well the ones that was is now coloureds lol.
The Bantu stole the land, the Koisan were the first people here.
Actually the San hunter gatherers was the first people. When the Khoi arrived with there flocks of sheep they where in conflict with the San, when the Bantu arrived in Natal around 1600 there where conflict between all three groups. In 1647 with the first Europeans settlement in Cape Town (Nieuw Haarlems shipwreck) the conflict also with the San. The San and Khoi where squeezed between Bantu expantion from the east and European Trekboers from the west. Today there are no San nor Khoi left in the South. Only mixed decendats as proofed by DNA. The Nama is the closest Khoi group to the South.
Khoi-Khoi people are basically a mix between a Cushitic group and San. The Cushitic people who migrated Southwards were closest to the Amhara people of Ethiopia...
God says the Koi & San both came from the 'Pigmee' who are snake people. Cmndr Loohan says they are negative energy beings, nasty black magicians, who use their children for sex...all the snake people actually do that, except the 'Pigmee'
@@kyksokoisan is sun people its the same
@@kyksonot true....but we'll leave you like that
Thank you so much, Matthys Johannes, I found this very interesting. Your English is good and easy to understand. And i appreciate you sharing this with us all. Thank you again, Laraine.
We are all from Europe yet Europe rejected us.
It rejected you because you played a vital role in toppling a great kingdom in the South.
That's why you the claim an African identity but you will NEVER be African.
Your English was excellent and you were very clear and articulate. That's amazing that you have photos of so many of your ancestors. Well done for keeping them, I hope your descendants treasure them. I am amazed at how long your family have been living in South Africa, you are truly African. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thankyou very much! 😊
No they're not African
@@maureenjackson2041 Of course they are, have you not watched the video ?
@@kykso
Hi
Please advise on which company you used for the DNA analysis and the costs involved.
Regards
Baie dankie vir al die inligting, bly om te sê my navorsing val toe ook in met joune selfde voorgeslagte. Shalom van Kimberley
More people should do this. We discovered so many connections to the Afrikaner community that we didn't expect
NOT ENOUGH I SUPPOSE .
AFRICA ACHIEVED WAR HUNGER SLAVERY DISEASE AND FASCISM AFTER WHITE RACE LEFT.
It's however a bioinformatics exercise which had limitations. E.g. How would do they know which DNA-markers are to be attributed to which ethnicity. It's based on probabilities of course and makes assumptions. It is not based on certainties.
Yes ,South African history they are trying to phase out ,but ships logbooks don't lie , they said that aborigines were tan to brown people ,that make them Khoisan ,nothing was mentioned about black people and these people were friendly towards the people that stepped on their shores ,blacks were brought here through way of different slave ships slaves from different African countries,that's why only South Africa had 10 different tribes ,and not other African countries. When slavery was abolished they were set free ,and that is how their journey began ,different tribes means tribal wars that was the 1700's ,ours started in 1752 when Jan Van Riebeeck build a trading station where ships could stop to get refreshments on their way to the silk and spice countries. You see we were already here when the black people arrived here no one stole land .
@@tokkieandrews9988 Bear in mind that the Hottentots were Nomadic people and the Bushmen were hunters and gatherers. That doesn't exactly yield high food production required to sustain larger populations. There were *some* people at *some* places in the Cape, but that's it. Landownership was unknown and essentially ad usum principles were applied. But try to get a sober approach to the pre-history of the RSA, you are gonna struggle. Post-Modernism destroys historiography like anything else. No appreciation of sources, no logic, no weighted probability. It's a shame and a sign that cultural production has ceased its value over time. JvR had the trading station build in 1652.
@@tokkieandrews9988 you were not here african blacks where here and will forever be here , The delusion is on another level 😮
Africa is for black people now you can’t lie about that how the hell would Europeans be in Africa before Africans
And you think if you’re people were here before the First Nations/ Aboriginals do you honestly think with your racist attitude and inhuman behaviour would let black people here ? No I don’t think so
Mooi om te zien! Dank je wel, voor je film!!
Gr uit Gelderland(Nederland)
En veel geluk voor je familie
Dankie wel!!! Groete vanaf die Suidste punt van Afrika!
baie dankie.....mooibly!!!!
As a colored guy from cape town. Currently living in limpopo. Honestly this is amazing. I wish i could pull up heritage like this for my family ... damn... 11 generations oom hulle is regtig geseen ❤❤
😂 wel die enigste rede waarom ek 11 generasies kon he is omdat my pa en oupa en grootjie so sentimenteel was en alles neergeskryf en gebere het. As dit nie so was nie het ek dit ook nie gehad nie. Net n vragie: Hoe hou jy uit in Limpopo???? Veralng jy nie die Kaap nie? 🙂
Interessant. No big surprises. At times I thought that the persistance of the Boers implied that they were from a small group. For instance in Zeeland or on Urk I think there are large families with common traits often as a result of centuries of battling with water , fishing and so on A very hard life, many children lost. But from your description de Boers are much like anyone from NW Europe. So my superficial image was wrong ... But thank you. Luck plays a big role in life. 1. Are you healthy? 2. Did you have loving parents? 3. Were you born in a stable country? 4. Are you reasonably intelligent? 5. Did you get sufficient education? It also helps to be good looking..but clearly mostly not all criteria are fulfilled But we humans struggled and make the best if it, certainly by helping one and another.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
As a South African born and bred now living in the UK I found this fascinating. I had the idea that my heritage came from French Belgium and Dutch Hugeonots But there's so much more richness in our history.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Ditto.
Very interesting indeed. Thank you for sharing this. It would be interesting to know how long some of our political leaders ancestors have resided in SA compared to for example yours.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Fantastic information, many thanks for sharing 👍
This lesson of RSA boer history should be a compulsory subject in all schools. So many misconceptions and myths will be dispelled and the truth about the land being stolen is false.
Thank you for such an informative and interesting lecture about your family tree and DNA.
AFRICA ACHIEVED WAR HUNGER SLAVERY DISEASE AND FASCISM AFTER WHITE PEOPLE LEFT
Who wrote the history of South Africa?
Who wrote the history of south Africa. Who was there in the land when your family arrived there. Was anyone displaced to make room for your family as it was in Zimbabwe. They forced blacks yo desert area, The TTLs
@@catherinemukombachoto4005 LOSERS LOOK BACK. WINNERS WIN. XHOSA HAD NO ALPHABET. SO THE HISTORY WAS WRITTEN BY WHITE MAN. NOW YOU KNOW
@@catherinemukombachoto4005 SO NOW WHITE MAN IS GONE, WHY ARE YOU STILL MARCHING BACKWARDS
Eva lyk my kom van Kenia😂😂😂
Selfde rubbish as climate change...
Bly maar by die bloed van die Lam.
Ja hulle tydlyne is ook te bevraagteken…
We are all African BS. In fact recent research revealed humanoid remains in the Caucasus were as nearly as old as those found in E. Africa and it was determined by dating that it was impossible for those people to have migrated from Africa to the Caucasus in such a short period of time.
Thank you for sharing your heritage with us. You must be very proud of the six generations who forged a new community in a very far away place. They seem like very strong upstanding people. Now my one question is that of course your lineage is “Pure” European, as I’m sure they were strong, social strictures in place regarding marriage and procreation, etc. and yet we know that many illegitimate children are born, often from mothers of a different race, but they’re never acknowledged as the father’s child, would not get his last name, etc. as he is “illegitimate.” So I’m assuming there are a fair number of mulatto children who over the generations, became lighter skinned, or darker skinned, and that you represent a group of people who did not mix, but there were many who did, or who did, but never took responsibility for the child. Would this be correct?
You are completely right, the Cape coloured people absorbed the the cases you mentioned. Also the left over of the Khoi people after the Small pocks epedemic was assimilated in the Cape Coloured comunity. The DNA of the Cape Coloured consist mainly out of different groups like Khoi, European, Bantu, Indian and Malasian. the last group was former slaves. In the Cape there where never that amount of slaves like in the "New world" because it was a bit of wine farming but the rest was sheep, horse and cattle farming for which you do not need much labour. A big part of slaves from India and Malaisia was people that was convicted into slavery by Dutch colonial authority for certain crimes or behavior. The European part of the Cape Coloured mainly originated from seafearing countries. Many ships stopped over at the Cape for rest and repairs on the way to the East. The DNA of the Cape coloured show this as well as their European decent mailnly from Britian and a lesser part from the Netherlands. But French and German origin almost none...( The Afrikaner people had by 1800 more German blood than Dutch, followed by French.) Here are DNA results from Cape Coloured person : 24.92 % Westren European , 24,91 Southern Asia, 12.83% South East Asia, 8,13% Khoisan, 10.31% Bantu, 2,7% Arabia, 2,34% Middle Eastern. DNA researh on this group results on paternal side looks like this for Cape Coloured: Haplo group E (Africa) 27%, Haplo group R (Europe) 23% , Haplo Group FG (Arabia/Iran) 13% . Haplo group O (East Asian) 13% , Haplo group J (North African) 6%, Haplo Groups T and H (South Asia, India and Pakistan) 8% , Haplo Group A and B (Khoisan) 6% . Hope it give a better understanding..
This is actually part of SA history that gets glanced over a lot. @kykso pretty much covered the Cape Coloured grouping but before VoC started using the Cape as sort of Malay penal colony you had the first free burghers starting what would become the first of the mixed race groupings.
These were young men out of the poor communities out of Europe whose 10 year contracts with the VoC ran out and did not want to go back to Europe or sign up again with the VoC. So they started the first independent farms around the Cape Colony which in those days was only the size what is now central Cape Town. This was before the immigration of families to the Cape Colony so they took wives from local Khoi tribes or took slave woman as common law wives and raise the children as their legitimate children and from them you various unique mixed race groupings who were the first to move out of the Cape because they disliked the VoC and their policies 100 years before the Voortrekkers started the Great Trek alater collectively became known as Trekboers. Later on a lot of the mixed groupings would unite as the Basters later known as the Griqau and establish their own independent states between the then British Cape Colony and Boer State.
@@kyksoin
They didn't keep their r3pe children . They grouped them together aka coloureds
I'm a Swiegers and chances are my DNA will very much reflect the same thing. Thanks for a very informative presentation
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Maternal DNA is more prominent. So you would need to look into your mother's mother surname too
Thank you, it is interesting! Im interested in the dates when Xhosa arrived at 80 years after your grandfather!! The world needs to hear more about that, they have no clue what happened in SA. Deel asb die waarheid met die wêreld. Dankie vir u moeite, dit word waardeer. Groete!
Everyone knows the truth, it's Africa that denies it
That is why its a total lie when black people say white settlers stole their land, Even when van Riebeeck landed in 1652 no black people lived in the Cape, was only Xio San and Hottentots,
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb Nonsense. The afrikaners were occupiers. Black people were there first no matter how you spin it. Tough luck for you. G'day 🇦🇺.
Get out of denial. Stop your spin. Black people were here long before Jan Van Riebeck landed. Get real. Africa is for African people and white people cannot lay claim. Terra nullius indeed. Utter tosh. G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
@redmatters9318 This man has documentary proof for what he says. You should the disprove him by submitting verified documentary proof, instead of just blurting out the old misleading misinformation that is currently being pushed down everybody's throats. In Afrikaans - jy praat k*k
My 2c: I reckon my heritage in this country is mostly Afrikaner Boer as is my half-brother's. His DNA is 98% European (Barnard/Slabber) while I am only 89%(Conradie/Slabber). We both have documented slave ancestry, mainly Asian (at least 2 well-known manumitted slaves). Most of our documented European and Asian ancestors have also been here since Jan van Riebeeck's time. So we have been here for a while. But my point is that not all Boers' DNA is going to look like yours. And that is OK.
Very interesting. I am an Afrikaans speaking Du Toit, my forefathers came in with the French Huguenots (1688). My mother was a Vermaak girl Dutch/Hollands and she had some Irish blood too, Eager that came in 1820 with some British settlers.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Dankie vir hierdie video. Dit het my oë ook bietjie oopgemaak en het my aangemoedig om self 'n toets te gaan doen.
Incredible! How did you find all of this information? I would love to trace my lineage too.
Don't say we're defined by our culture only, has you culture and so on came out of nothing?
Come on, admit that you are proud of being 100% European! if you ain't, you should!
Everybody should be proud of what and who they are....😀
@@kykso Great that we're on agreement!!... we're living in a world of self-destructing false humility, so often shrowded in arrogance, nothing like a healthy, positive pride to stay foot against the tide!
BTW, as you may realise, i'm new to your channel (it's appearing quite ineteresting) and i was trying to watch some vids with subtitles but i can't. Is the problem on your end or mine?
Your narrative in English was flawless. South Africa is much like any other new world country being a melting pot of numerous nationalities to form a new nationality. I arrived in South Africa in the late 60’s as a baby from England but left in 2002 due to increasing tension and conflict. Perhaps if things had been different, I would have become a forefather of future South Africans.
That tension has only continued. Just yesterday our dog was poisoned so now we're perparing ourselves since they'll probably try and break in this long weekend
At the 11 : 18 we see mention of English lineage, notwithstanding Roman, Goth or Norman influence, we must remember that many 'Saxons' are originally from Sachsen-Anhalt / Lower Saxony (or Niedersachsen).
Dit lyk my amper die afrikaner is meer European.
The only Afrikaner are the Khoisan kultuur 'eiegoed' like the Afrikaner cattle and Afrikaner sheep the Boers stole from the Khoisan. When the Boers decided they are Afrikaners they committed Khoisan cultural genocide. They will never escape the karma.
Tell that to Malema of EFF who thinks they own the whole of Africa.
Vok hulle bro!😊
@@oomgawie9175 yep, die eff is a nuwe kloon uit gegee deur die Vatikaan. check loohan forums:- conspiracy talk:- "generation" 7 Blankster. skiet dood...Abba Vader sê, Sy uitverkore Boervolkie, mag maar terug veg, oog vir oog ens. Die 'groot gruwel wat verwoes' = anc (Matt.24:15) hul het 7 maande oor, dan gaan vrymesselars skuim wil regeer, maar Juda, gaan hul land uit bom, meeste dominies, pastore, predikante val in daai groep, kry hul uit jul dorpe, Amen...lekker 'fight'...;-))) Abba se army is reeds hier om te help..xoxo
Malema does not have the mental capacity to grasp this.😂
@@neilstephen2282 2 of a kind Zuma and Malema.
@@oomgawie9175 mens spel dit met n F.
It is so crazy when some people say that just because someone is of European decent (and is white) they can't be African.
His DNA shows it
What black person in their right mind would see the Afrikaners as fellow Africans with their trangressions.
Seems that one of your ancestors was a Roman. Britain was heavily settled by Angles, Saxons and Jutes. German tribes so that might explain the 18%
All very interesting... Unfortunately the further we go back into DNA history the more "wishy-washy" it becomes for our limited technology to read our past lineage from the DNA. But, if we could go all the way back to the beginning, we would realize that we are in fact ALL brothers in sisters, no matter our Race, Culture, Traditions or Heritage! Thank you for sharing.
Chimpanzees are 98% our brothers based on DNA. Cows are 80%. Be careful what you eat.
oh yes very true!!!!;
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Our history is there to learn from not to hold it against each other.
Bhahaa!! 😂
Dat is kicke hé!!
Dit is allemaal wel geweldig om te lezen hoor!! Wat een taal hè!!?
Ik heb ook echt het idee dat jullie dit net zo goed kunnen lezen.
Groetjes uit Holland!
👋🙋🏼♂️😃
Groete vanuit Brisbane.😊
@@nervotica7991 @sjoerdhartman9181 Groete van Perth!
Ons verstaan Nederlands heel goed. Met my besoeke aan Nederland het ek nooit Engels gepraat nie, maar slegs Afrikaans en die kommunikasie was heel goed gewees.
Op skool het bykans alle Afrikaans sprekende kinders ten minste 2 voorgeskrewe Nederlandse leesboeke gehad...so ,om Nederlands te kan lees en verstaan is vir my maklik,selfs na baie jare op die ouderdom van 70. Ek herinner my nou daaraan dat een van die boeke se titel was "Bellen Blasen". Gaat je wel..😄
A crucial fact, they came to SA worked, purchased land, began to farm to help themselves and feed others! There was no stealing! Ons Boere, ek is trots!
purchased from who?? and with what
And sure you found no one in this country huh! How rich .....?
Doofases and doofases all over
"Trekboers have already reached the banks of the Fish River in the Eastern Cape by the end of 1770. On the other side, they found the Xhosa`s that moved southwestwards. It was the first time after 118 years in Southern Africa that white and black met each other. The Trekboers (farmers) and the Xhosa are both stopped in their movements. The trek farmers from moving east and the Xhosa from moving west. The Fish River becomes the natural boundary between the two groups. In November 1779, the Xhosa crossed the Fish River, into the Cape Colony. Chief Rarabe crossed the Colony border at Bruintjieshoogte (today in the Pearston district) and began to steal cattle and livestock, burning farmhouses and murdering farmers. These invasions occurred in both Swellendam and Stellenbosch districts. (The Graaff Reinet district was founded in 1786 only.) Two commandos assembled in the summer of 1779-1780. The one commando of Stellenbosch (Bruintjeshoogte) under Joshua Joubert, the other Swellendam (West of the Bushman`s River) under Peter Hendrik Ferreire. The first border war began with the Xhosa. Although many cattle could be gained back, the commandos could not drive back all Xhosa from where they came from. On October 24, 1780, Adriaan van Jaarsveld took over the commando`s command of both the two commandos as Field commander. The tribesmen who crossed the river were instructed to return to which only one chieftain Langa moved back. Van Jaarsveld then took on the rest in battle. The ox wagons of the commando was put in a circle and the openings closed with thorn branches. Stock and draft animals are protected only by handful of men inside this laager, while Van Jaarsveld and the rest attack the Xhosa. It was the first time that a Laager was drawn in the history of the Afrikaner. In the campaign that lasted from May 23, 1781 to July 19, the Xhosa was crushed and driven back over the Fish River. 5300 cattle were taken back and the commando`s dissolved "
I am a descendent of Kratoa , Khoi khoi strandloper. The dutch traded with the Khoi Khoi to obtain land. Kratoa married Pieter van Meerhof and many Afrikaaners cary her bloodlines.
I am Indian 3rd generation South African, with Persian ancestry and My great grandfather was Dutch... surname Holland. Thanks Meneer for a great episode.
I'm Celtic ...my mom is Boer, Slabbert, and Buis,. My mom's family came to SA 1688....
Hi im also afrikaans I want to share this with you .I did my DNA when I lived in america. But my DNA stopped in Germany. So I was interested in where was my DNA before the 1500 and 1600 .so I went to an older DNA review and I discovered a lot of Jewish ancestors. So I looked even more deeper .and I tested to an older database. And it come out to my oldest ancestors are from isreal.
Palestine. (Israel dates from 1948)
Many Afrikaans people have strong links to Lithuanian jews
@@juditkoncz1020it's still Israel 😂
@@juditkoncz1020nonsense. Israel is an ancient land and records of it and its people the Israelites go way back before the Arabs moved in.
@@juditkoncz1020 is that so? Azami Bishara ( a terrorist supporter and a spy against Israel would say there is no Palestine:
ua-cam.com/video/P3n5-yG-6dU/v-deo.htmlsi=5TeavBwq5Vnq09uL
And he is not alone on "their" side.
But you probably don't care cause the ancestors told you different.
I find the tracing of our families through DNA so interesting
Very interesting, but unfortunately the hatred of the black people against the Afrikaner just delete all true facts and they will kling onto all deceiving concepts and lies. They will rather believe the sangoma and witch docter stories and obey their commands.
Can you really blame black people for the hatred against the Afrikaaner? I mean seriously? Just go back to 1976, not so long ago. Google Steve Biko and others, read up on the pass laws, the immorality act, the land act, the anti-terrorism act, the laws around forced removals to matchbox houses in townships…need I continue?
Your DNA proves that you all came Europe, not Africa as some of your people like to claim.
@@norahappolus8994 The true atrocities of that time i can count on my one hands fingers. The laws you mentioned were necessary to maintain law and order. Which by the way is still not achieved in this new dispensation. So if i want to make a list of criminalities and atrocities of the new dispensation it will cover a distance from here to Kairo. So pls stop throwing mud balls and get a clear grip on reality.
@@norahappolus8994this is just DNA of one man. There is a lot of mixed local blood in South Africa. People here also come to find work from sister countries. Malaysian blood is mostly in the Cape. Afrikaans is a long established language, mostly from European languages but spoken by different race groups here. Friend of mine Zimbabwean born has ethnic blood from Mozambique to Cape to Zimbabwe. So it difficult to define people by splitting hairs and putting them in boxes.
@@norahappolus8994always remember that any govt in history to current, does not represent all peaceful peoples ideas. There is no room for hate based on colour, if you don't know people's hearts.
I am wondering what impact ZyCov-D and Plasmids will have on the Mitochondrial DNA that we have all inherited? I also have concerns what impact this BioNTech Serum will have on our Patrineal lineage?
I am strongly against Genetic Editing.
Totally agree!
The vaccines don't alter DNA 🙄
You are so right, we are defined by our culture but dna is so interesting, it shows we come from a melting pot
When submitting DNA there shld be no name so they cant guess from the sound of the surname.
Your DNA is more you than your culture DNA ljterally is you.
I was send over the link by an ZA friend since history interests me. None of that in school about these things.
Very interesting. If you speak English you have the same pronounciation that most Flemish or Dutch people have who have not been influenced by US tv shows or movies. I am from Belgium and there are a lot of 'Afrikaanse woorde' that are being used that I know from certain dialects here or that I learned from my grandparents. You even use sayings in Afrikaans that are old Flemish but are still being used. Actually here the dialect changes every like 30km so I hear things or sayings that I know come from the coastal areas or some cities.
You are very lucky to have a stamboom that is complete and even have these old pictures. I hope you have digitalized them for future generations. If you would be here in this country your looks and way of talking would fit right in. You could be my neighbor.
As for the DNA from Southern Europe you have to dive deeper in the history of Europe. There has been a lot of travel and movement in the last 2000 years. The Romans, Germans and French were here in the Flanders over a couple of hunderds of years. Also the last name is not something that obvious.
If you did this UA-cam in Afrikaans I would have no issue understanding it. Afrikaans is that close to Flemish or Dutch after you have heard it for a while and you get used to different way some words are used. The tenses is something that might have changed in those 300 some years. I've never looked that one up.
All in all top video, enjoyed it a lot!
Vlaams is naby aan Afrikaans. Flemish is easier to understand than Dutch, but I never spoke English in the Netherlands when I visit. I get along very well with Afrikaans there and comunication was not that difficult.
7 generaciones from great grandparents time I wonder if the little ones will know who were there ansesters if there’s no one to tell?nice to know the first settlers had such a peacefull life as farmers
Your great great great grandfather looks like a man that you do not want him to find you trespassing on his land, your family photos have been kept in excellent condition, good work.
Friesland se mense verstaan ons maklik. Dis nes Afrikaans
Baie nice. FW de Klerk se results wys seker diep Congo.
🤣
I had my DNA test and found that i am mostly English but, I have the following. Balkan on my grandmothers(my moms mom) didnt know about it.
Scottish from my dads side knew about that the surprise was Swedish we which is from grandmother/grandfather/great uncle/aunty but, have no idea about that one. I also have worldwide over 9000 cousins that relate to me so yes we could well all be related somewhere alkng the line.
There are a few fundamental limitations with current DNA tests that should be kept in mind. Your full DNA is not sequenced unless you pay specifically for it, and thus certain markers (partial sequences) are used. This means that entire hereditary relations can be missed (for example, you could miss a forefather from a different continent). However, even if you sequence your full DNA, then there is the much more important limitation of reference human genomes. If you are 80% Irish, it is because the people (of the small fraction globally) whose DNA had been sequenced previously, had claimed to be ethnically Irish. Thus you are compared to a subjective reference. I am saying this as an Afrikaner with 1 or 2% South Asian ancestry and the rest mostly British/Northern European, but even that is not really reliable. There is yet another problem, even if you narrow down reference genomes, which is that when you are associated with where on earth is also partially subjective-we are almost certain to have all lived in Africa around 50 thousand years ago. Not to mention Neanderthal or Denisovan genes that we know for a fact are part of our genomes. Then there are the examples of identical twins who both have used these "consumer" tests and gotten significantly different results.
Totally agree. Ek het `n Hollandse buurman gehad wat gese het:' Roei met die spane wat jy het!" Currently we have this tools and it just give some indication at least.
I doubt how accurate these findings are. But at least these companies makes money and we have interesting stories to tell.@@somerandom181
Hi advise me as to how do i go about doing this research about myself. I am a black SA, of abambo/ Mfengu Dlamini clan origin.
Hi, well you could use different dna companies to do it. Costs around R3000 per test. If you google DNA tests for South Africa you will find different companies to choose from. I hope it help. Will be nice if you do it and share your results. Great weekend for you.
I was a Viljoen. 11th generation French Huguenot. My father grew up in Bredasdorp. Thnk you for this very informative piece. Charlene Colyn
It is also a fact that we are all descended from Noah's sons. Japheth is the ancestor of the Europeans. Sem of the Asians and Ham of the Africans and partly the Middle East
One of the Lost Tribes of Israel.
Utter tosh. Such superstion must be overcome my dapper Dan friend. Wow. Seriously surprised from Australia 🇦🇺 😳.
Christians al over the world belive in the Bible and Noa as a historican person@@redmatters9318
My Vader is n Skot ...van Normandië..sy nasate almal 7 geslagte Norman's..My Moeder van Pole 7 geslagte terug ook van die Breslau familie Lyn..hul voorsate Russies..En een verdwaalde niggie van Nederland se koningshuis...in my familie is Geen koi Zulu of xhosa Nie..my ouma grootjie geleef toe en jonk was..sy was n Breslau Al haar nasate is getroud met goeie bloed Lyne..ook 7 jaar terug genavors.. Afrikaans is my 6e Taal...interresant waar mense vandaan kom...
Ek weet .
Baie baie trots, dankie vir hierdie video. Maak my hart baie bly. ❤
Not surprising from. A scumbag who believes lies and live of others ! You will reap what you sow ! What you think is bad for you now , it will be like nothing when the true black power prevails! Ask France
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
There is nothing wrong with your English Meneer
Many protestants who were protesting against the darkness and error of catholicism and the terrible persecution (most protestants don't protest anymore! And have carried on with erroneous beliefs that are not scriptural) fled Europe in their hundreds and thousands to South Africa to live in relative peace and safety. That is why many south Africa Africans do have European blood in them... Genetically... Thank you I found your talk very sincere.
That's nonsense, 1652 with Jan van Riebeek dates colonialism! Whites were here centuries before that and it didn't begin in Cape Town. It's started in Kenya German Greeks which are the Boers have been here even longer than the formations of Europe!
Europe itself comes from the Greeks and Germans and there's vast literature on this. It's only western europe (Latin Europe & Dutch) that sells the narrative that it started in 1652.
Cleopatra was a Greek!
during the French revolution thousands of French fled France and moved to South Africa
The Hugenots fled France and went mainly to South Africa and Canada after the Edict of Nantes was revoked.
Escape from religious persecution 😢
@@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lbare you deluded only ship wrecked pork and cheese 🧀 😅
Are you also a native Afrikaans speaker? I am from The Netherlands and your accent even sounds specifically like person from Rotterdam city talking english, very interesting how close it sounds to that.
Yes I am Afrikaans speeking. Ek kan goed dink dat die uitspraak min of meer dieselfde kan wees.
I love your factual account , my maternal father was strydom , otherwise the rest is from uk, I would love to do my dna ❤
I have spanish , Portugese , French , mostly with some russian , Baltic Ashkenazi Jewish and balkan in my dna . The Anatolia (Turkey) part of dna shocked me . Explains why i look like an African but the way i behave is very unafrican
Great to hear. A true Boer. Salute.
Im from Tyneside England. My DNA is 50% Irish 44% Scots, 6% Germanic Europe. Pure White!
And you came out of Africa like everybody else.
😅
@@Marius_vanderLubbenope. You obviously don't belive the Bible but rather man's "theory" of evolution.
@@user39h2j8il Get away from me with your witchcraft. I'm not interested.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this.
Beautifully done and masterfully executed! I'm inspired by you to consider my own such journey into the past. I am part of the more modern day 'diaspora' having left SA for New Zealand in 1999, surnames Loggenberg, Venter (paternal) and Mienie, (Unkown) maternal.
How stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Thank you sir, very interesting. Every afrikaans person i know would keep very quite about being 18% soutie.
I had this DNA analysis done. I always thought I was English ( South African) because all four grandparents came from the British Isles. Turns out no, I'm mid European, North European, Scots, Irish and Welsh! English not mentioned.
Being South African, I was surprised to find I'm rather happy about this😊
all white people who moved to South Africa from 1600 and later forefathers come from Europe, i am of German and British blood on my father's side, mother's side is French and British, well When one says it's British it could be Welsh Irish Scottish,
We have documented English ancestry but my mother and did not receive that DNA. What we do have is a ton of Irish! 🙃
@@eisbeinGermanyIrish is not British.
The English are Anglo-Saxons, meaning German and French and European DNA.
@@richardwebb9532 yes i have read about that, well here on ytube is a video about how strong the German linage is in the British royal house of today, Before William or up to William theres apparently more german blood in the britsh royal house than british blood if i remeber correctly ,
This is so interesting. I am a Swanepoel and would love to know my background like this.
Hi Kykso.
Interesting to hear your history story. I even learned something from it. Never knew that the European Boer settlers were there even before the indigenous tribes (or was it only the one tribe you mentioned that came 80 years after the Boers?).
The DNA results are always interesting for everyone I think. I always thought to be real 'Hollands' with some German / French blood. I'm from Holland descendants proven since 1650. But the DNA test results also showed 26% English, 14% Scandinavian and even 1% Middle East/Arabian. Same as in your story no clue how that came in my pedigree.
By the way, your English was very good to understand. 👍
Baie groeten uit Nederland en blyf interessante vlogs maak.
Hans.
Greetings cousin!! My 8th great grandfather on my fathers side is Johannas Jansz Swart (b.1646 d.1710)
Net n bewys dat ons witter is as die Europeers self 💪🏻
Smit is a Dutch name from origin.
Coetzee could either be French (Gaucher) or South Netherlands (Cudsee)
Kellerman is German (Kellermann)
Vorster is Dutch in origin (dukedom Brabant), and was actually based up on a job between 500 AD up to 1500 AD. This was basically a judicial officer.
Kühn is German in origin
Jacobs is Dutch in origin. Funny to hear you actually speak it in the Dutch way as well, so South Afrikaans still kept that I see.
Botha is a very interesting name actually, I think I can't do this justice on my own so i'll use the wikipedia entry if you don't mind (in Dutch):
"Botha of Both of Bode is een achternaam die voorkomt in het Nederlands taalgebied, en afkomstig is uit de regio Friesland en Noord-Duitsland. De naam is afkomstig van het Germaans Butha en Proto-Indo-Europees duta, dat "boodschapper" betekent."
South African Wiki says this:
"Botha is 'n familienaam wat algemeen onder Afrikaners in Suid-Afrika en in die Nederlandse taalgebied voorkom. Die van kom oorspronklik van die omgewings van Friesland en Noord-Duitsland. Dit is afgelei van die Germaanse Butha en Proto-Indo-Europese duta, wat "boodskapper" beteken."
What this means, Botha (or variations of it) is a VERY old name and has a lot of history to it.
Retief name might be French in origin, but I'm not sure about that.
Malan is from Farao islands, so it has a Danish background as well as English.
Boshoff is Dutch and (north-west) German in origin, but most of this family actually lives today in South Africa.
Klerk is Dutch in origin
van der Merwe is Dutch in origin. If you see a name with things like "de" "van der" and such in front of it, you can pretty much always trace it back to the Netherlands.
Malan stamvader kom uit suid Oos Frankryk, Retief sentraal Frankryk en Botha stamvader van Noord Duitsland .
awesome!!!!
@@kyksoHow stupid someone has to be not to realise that the only reason why South Africa is called as such is because of Afrikaners that speak Afrikaans and not the subsaharan population?!
A Frici, FriSian,FriKanEr ...are a Northern identity and to associating with subsaharan population is like saying that Aboriginals are the "real" British.
Those surnames are considered afrikaans names in South Africa.
My ancestors arrived at the Cape in 1658 leaving the Netherlands in 1657. Then again from France in 1689. And then from Gemany in 1691. My mother's family.
A fascinating account, well and positively articulated. ******* 7, for it.
One side of my family is Coetsee there was a marriage with khoisan through an Irish side.thanks super interesting
Thank you for sharing this, and in English
Well im of German blood on my fathers side, and British,then on my mother's side its French and British,
I hear you talking about the Xhosa people coming to South Africa AFTER your ancestors came to the Cape, but you conveniently forget that there were people in the Cape before your ancestors got here.
It may help you to sleep better at night, but the Khoi and San people were the original people who lived in the Cape and who were enslaved by the Dutch and later by the English who had convinced them that none of the land belonged to them, since they were nomadic.
I think that you need to stop convincing yourself that your people landed on an uninhabited continent and therefore it belongs to you.
Jonathan, my voorouers het eers die Overberg in getrek nadat die Khoi deur die pokke epidemie getref was en die VOC nie meer vee kon ruil van die stamme nie. Ek het nog nooit gestry dat die eerste inwoners die SAN was nie. Na die SAN het die Khoi gekom. Vandag is die Khoi uitgestref behalwe vir die noordelike stamme die Nama en verder noord die Damara, maar die Damara het reeds heelwat Bantu dna. Gaan kyk maar na die DNA van die mense wat hulself vandag die eerste mense noem. Daar is baie min Khoi bloed oor....
@@kykso They lived here but they did not own the land. Actually they were illegal squatters.
I found the St Helena part of your family history interesting. My ancestry on my fathers side also comes from there. The ancestors was Cpt Gewan Hamilton who was Napoleons custodian whilst he was a prisoner there. He was the Captain of Hms Havana, the war ship tasked with securing the island. He and Napoleon didn't enjoy each other very much needless to say. It is probable that your ancestor personaly knew mine.
Best regards to you and your family.
My van is Melville maar dit was veronderstel om Roux te wees. Albei my ouers is van Afrikaanse oorsprong, my uitslae was 99% Europees, en omtrent 1% "Middle East" maar daar was ook (onder die Europese deel) 20% Suid Europa/Griekeland/ Balkans. Die res was meestal Noordwes Europa.
Baie interressant dankie Thys!!
Interesting many Afrikaners have a substantial amount of Italian ancestry
My ancestors come from Netherland,Sweden,Denmark,Scotland,Germany and France
Dit is amazing 🤩 Dankie day jy so deel!
My family came out from Germany just before 1700s. They were two Augustyn brothers, Jan Abraham Augustyn en Gert Matthys Augustyn. Their family was from polish descent before that. They settled in the Cape area. Their home language became Afrikaans eventually.
The two brothers were protestants fleeing the catholic persecution.
My ancestors came from France. Protestants fleeing Catholic persecution. They changed their language to Afrikaans. Seems like there is a theme.
Dutch names and Polish surname. Why the German connection? Surely they were Dutch-born, with those names.
@@spervuurproduksies Jan is a polish name too.
Dankie vir die video. Ek het verwag dat jy dalk 'n klein persentasie Suid Indies of Maleis sou gehad het soos ek (my oupa groetjie is op St Helena gebore).
Thank you very much. My Ouma was Korolina Leeson Marais. Even van die stigters van boeremusiek names die Vyf Vastrappers en Die Plesier markers.
My ancestors from my Ouma se kant came from Hoorn Netherlands. The first Bosch arrived in Cape Town in 1699.
Thank you for such an interesting video.
My ancestors come from Netherland Sweden Denmark Scotland Germany and and France
Wow this was amazing 👍 thanks for sharing ... what test/company did you use ? ....
I used "My Familytree DNA"
@@kykso thanks 👍, did you ever try another company, to compare the results ? (almost like a second opinion)
I have Dutch and British blood in my veins, with some French. Im so proud to be Afrikaans but also so proud to be of European descent. My family consists of these surnames: Verstrate (Dutch), Haggard (British), Martin (British) and more.
I am a Afrikaner blond and blue eyed I had English and German people saying I have black blood and they have not meanwhile I am lighter of colour than they
I am a Afrikaner blond and blue eyed I had English and German people saying I have black blood and they have not meanwhile I am lighter of colour than they
I am a Afrikaner blond and blue eyed I had English and German people saying I have black blood and they have not meanwhile I am lighter of colour than they
I am a Afrikaner blond and blue eyed I had English and German people saying I have black blood and they have not meanwhile I am lighter of colour than they
Interesting
I'm a Boer. Van Zyl ancestors from 1600's . Did my dna, am Germanic, Anglo Saxon and Scandinavian. Most Boers have English dna, but they don't like to hear it. 😂
My brother did this; we are 1/16 Zulu. I gess GGG couldn't keep it in his pants.
My parents immigrated to Canada in 1959.