My grandfather was stationed on the USS Wood County when it was acting as the mothership for the hydrofoil Tucumcari, he said watching a ship that size move that fast was just incredible
@@massimo3860 They could've balanced it by making them have zero survivability (which Mustard even touches upon in this video) instead of breaking physics....
Oh man, I was driving along the Columbia river one time, and stopped to see the half scrapped hull of Plainview. I was perplexed with the hydraulic cylinders on the aft portion that seemed to push something into the water. After finding out what the AGEH-1 Plainview actually was, I was happy to have been someone to actually see what was left of it. What a cool piece of history.
Dunno if it was that great, the biggest reason for much of the developments was downright fear of an enemy war attack at any moment, and you can bet the pressure to get it ready before the soviets did was there. Also as shown, you could see your project through your start towards your retirement just going on and on and then get abandoned anyway, no matter how incredible your work was. It had it's fair share of amazing work to do but I can't really say it was better.
I had a friend that served on a hydrofoil, he stated that one major issue was the diesel engines were not powerful enough to keep up with the fleet for an extended time, leading to early failures of the diesels. When flying they were too fast and left the other ships behind.
If the new ship is way faster than the old ships, navies shouldn’t work to faze out the faster ship, but instead work to effectively make all of their ships match that speed.
You are a warlock at this kind of storytelling. The care and attention to detail is masterful. The music score. It's just such a delight for the viewer. Thank you.
It needs to be said more often that the UA-camrs who script their videos and take the most pride in their craft are the ones actually doing the best work. I for one have had a bellyful of creators saying, "Oh yeah well I've got five million subs" as if that were relevant.
@@DrWhom - “shame about the bad grammar” And misleading terminology. I was disappointed to see the creator to resort to sort of sensationalism by calling the way these ships move on water "flying". The central part of "flying" is to not be in contact with the planetary surface (ground or water). That's not the case with these ships, so they are definitely not flying. The creator must have known that, or at least should have checked before using the word. Quite a few people are now unavoidably confused about the meaning of “flying” because of the creator’s bad choice. It would have been OK to talk about “flying” in a way that conveys it’s not a proper term, for example by saying something like “the movement resembles how a winged aircraft flies”. On the good side are the excellent original graphics. Sounds funny, but they make my eyes feel physically good. I also appreciate the fact that the archived video material is presented in a very high quality, unlike on typical cheap productions available on UA-cam.
During my time in the US Navy, early 1980s, two classes of ships were considered the most desired to serve on, the Iowa class battleships and the PHM Pegasus class hydrofoils. Very different ships. While serving on my ASW Frigate, cruising in the Caribbean, we saw one of the PHMs strutting her stuff. Very impressive performance!
Hydrofoils are still in use, ekranoplanes stopped existing because they couldnt do the one thing they were built to do unless the waves were under 6 feet high, and hovercraft are fairly niche in their usefulness, theyre all absolutely neat ideas, but only the good ones lived on
It's interesting where hydrofoils are still used today. I ride one pretty frequently between Hong Kong and Macau, as the high speed ferry between the two is a pretty fast hydrofoil
Oh my god I would have loved to contribute some original footage of the Plainview in its current state (wrecked on the Columbia) to this video! I am cursed with all my favorite youtubers making videos on the stuff that I just spent days shooting IRL. Great job, stunning video!
Hah, i know that feeling, or having an idea/theory and someone else popularizes it and then people think i got it from them. It actually happened quite frequently at the turn of the century, and was pretty demotivating, but yeah, just keep doing what you love.
I have ridden a Soviet made hydrofoil called Raketa or Rocket in English. When you are sitting at the front, it feels really awesome when it slightly lifts up from the water, it is mostly calm in the front but if you sit at the back, you can actually feel the speed of the boat. And the speed is not like other boat of that size, they are really fast.
Nothing beats good old 60s engineering, when people were constantly try to making machines that were straight out of fiction, sucks we don't have such things like this today.
Meanwhile what we have today: Aircrafts capable of 20+ hours flight SpaceX rockets taking off every several months, with parts of it capable of turning back and land automatically to be reused in future launches James Webb telescope taking some of the most extraordinary pictures humans have ever seen Mars rovers You need to realize that even in the 60s, each project spanned nearly a whole decade if not more. Innovations don’t just pop up every day. We do have amazing stuffs too nowadays, if you care enough to check
@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 No one denied that, though it is not be bad but today's tech is boring Back then it is exciting Ekranoplan, Amphibious car, Concorde
I was stationed on the USS Sacramento in the late 70's. We sailed out of Bremerton with the USS Pegasus (I think). The problem with the little ship was lack of endurance. We had to refuel her at sea everyday. Typically, we would replenish ships every three or four days. And when she slowed down to refuel and float like a regular ship she would rock and roll. If I remember correctly she was made out of aluminum to save weight but I could be mistaken.
Bob I remember going on Tour of USS Sacramento in Bremerton as a young kid. I used to watch on Puget Sound one of those Hydrofoil doing testing. Then they went on Hood Canal underwater Test Range, think if I remember right to shoot Torpedos.
@@rp1645 Those hydrofoils were pretty neat. There were actually two different types at Puget Sound Navel Shipyard in Bremerton at the time. The Pegasus was one but I can't remember the other. I don't think I saw the second one ever sail but again it was a long time ago and my memory may be a bit faulty.
Thank you for covering the USS Plainview. I live in Astoria, Oregon, and the Plainview's hull is beached across the Columbia river from me. Its sad that no one has tried to clean it up. A forgotten piece of naval history.
The uss highpoint is in astoria up on land in tongue point iv seen in recently its in way better shape then the plainview i was kinda amazed when i saw it over there whats the luck of having both ships on the mouth of the columbia
Sad that it was partially scrapped then abandoned. Many attempts to find/contact the owners go unanswered. She's too far gone to save or be worth much historically, but still a great landmark to enjoy on coast trips!!!
@@wheels-n-tires1846 shes actually was in great shape prior to the rear end being removed for scrap (i believe that is what it was used for.). Alas, now shes in such poor condition that its not worth it well, i say that it wouldnt cost a lot to fully repair her, shes not a large ship and the material isn't the most expensive. Itd probably be more expensive to move her to a area they can restore her in
@@magnum6763 its certainly a shame!!! She was all aluminum, so itd actually be pretty expensive to repair her. And with so much equipment, as well as hull missing, sadly I imagine only a zilloinaire with a deep love (obsession??) for her could ever see it through...
Each RV trip to Ore, for many years, (fantastically scenic hwy 1), upon crossing the Columbia River marvel of Astoria Bridge, we stopped to visit Plainview. Each visit, more parts appeared missing.. Such a loss, when tourism enjoys viewing excellent displays, such as the Astoria US Coast Guard facility.. ;/
It kind-of did go somewhere though, in Italy and Japan through the Boeing company in the form of the Sparviero-class fast attack hydrofoil. They were in service from 1974-2010. Very heavily inspired by the Pegasus design.
Italy had the Nibbio/Sparviero class, which was a series of missile hydrofoils produced, as a residue of the NATO program for this type of vessel, in seven specimens, including the Sparviero prototype, which entered the Marina Militare during the seventies and were struck off in during the nineties, very similar to the American Pegasus. Surprisingly small, they had a 90 rounds per minute OTO Compatto 76/62 gun and 2 Otomat long-range missiles, but the vessel's range was only 500 km and operating costs comparable to those of a frigate . Three units were built, and delivered between 1993 and 1995, for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force on Fincantieri license from Sumitomo. ua-cam.com/video/Q_TNGqQoP2g/v-deo.html (sorry for the music)
Cool video, fantastic production value as always! The Canadian navy launched the HMCS Bras d’Or in 1968, named after the lake where Alexander Graham Bell did his hydrofoil experiments. It hit a speed record of 63 knots when tested in 1969, but the program was cancelled in 1971, for cost overrun reasons.
I visited the Bras d'Or a few years ago, at the Musée maritime du Québec, L'Islet-sur-Mer. It is an amazing vessel at an amazing museum, well worth the detour.
I don't have a name for it, but I get this sense of deep respect and awe (almost giddy, even) at the folks that put so much effort into these fantastical machines. Even if they were impractical, it's nice to imagine a world where you see hydrofoils roaming the earth.
Canada had a ship that was similar called the HMS Bras D’Or but the hydrofoils weren’t adjustable. I would love a video on that vessel too! It’s currently on display at the Maritime Museum of Quebec.
@@leeterthanyou yes it’s certainly on my list. I want to see it in person after seeing this video and it’s scale mock-up in the Halifax Maritime Museum; another museum I highly recommend
Good Day : The model number for the Bras D'or is FHE 400 . There is a really good book on the market about it with a lot of interesting photos and diagrams . It's written by Thomas G. Lynch . It's title is "THE FLYING 400" by NIMBUS PUBLISHING LIMITED . Good book .
I've actually seen the Plainview! She sits, partially scrapped in shallows on the shore of the Columbia river. She's a few miles east of Chinook, WA on the 101
Do you know when it was moved to it's current location? I only know roughly, thinking 1986-ish. My sister moved from Seattle to Naselle in 1985, later moved to Long Beach. I made a couple of trips down there at that time, didn't see any wrecked metal ships on that stretch of the river. Was busy with other things for a couple of years, finally returned to visit in the spring on 1988. The ship was there, but it looked like it had just run aground about 20 feet from the bank. Assuming that storms pushed it ashore over the years.
That was about the time Lowell moved to Washington and took the Plainview with him. He had it towed from Astoria then pulled up onto the beach as far as he could.
@@Fred_Lougee I don’t sorry, I was born in 1997 so it’s always been there for me. It’s still there but it’s condition is a lot worse than it was 20 years ago obviously.
@@Tygor9000 I haven't even been down that way since 1995. My sis moved away, to Cannon Beach, and I just never had any reason to go there apart from the occasional visit to some friends in Naselle. But they have passed away, so now there's really no reason for me to go. It's a nice place, wish I could have lived there full time, but I am neither a logger, a farmer, or a fisherman, so no way to make a living.
Mustard is the best youtube channel I’ve ever come across in my lifetime, the writing, the stories and the cinematography is all so perfect I am so grateful to have stumbled across your videos. Fyi the nebula deal is very worth it.
I built a model of the pegasus class when I was a kid. I wondered what happened to them. Thanks for the information and satisfying my curiosity after all these years!
One of them still exists, actually! When the project closed, the ships were sold for scrap, and my uncle and two friends of his bought one and took it to Missouri, where they are working on restoring it. Look up the USS Aries hydrofoil museum. It's a pretty cool ship, I spent a lot of time on it as a kid.
I think it would be fun to talk about the HMCS Bras d'Or (FHE 400), which at the time, would've been the fastest warship in the world, hitting speeds of 63 knots in the late 60's.
Awesome that this wasn’t just some project that never got beyond some scale model. Really awesome footage and diagrams. Also noticed this was built during a time before labor unions were completely neutered.
I worked on the Pegasus, and was SO proud of the hydrofoils. They even were sent over to the gulf to chase the little Iranian gun boats (scared the crap out of them) The civlian version are still flying in Japan.
I have always be fascinated by Hydrofoil warships, especially when I read about the Grumman HYD-2 related proposals, M163, which was supposed to go 53.1 knots and the smaller but even faster Grumman M165, which was planned to go 70 knots
I worked at Long Beach Naval Shipyard during the early 1970's. We installed the turret from the M 551 Sheridan Tank, on one of the small hydrofoils as a experiment. The gun was able to fire either the Shillelagh missile, or a conventional high explosive projectile. I believe it wasn't a success because when fired the recoil was so heavy. It caused the hydrofoils to fail. It would cause the ship to lose lift, making the hydrofoils useless.
I was lucky enough to ride on one of those old soviet style hydrofoils for about 6 hours up the Yangtze river from Yichang, 2008. Amazing old machine, super fast.
Every morning I wake up and make myself some food, and usually with nobody to talk to, I find myself watching your videos. Thanks man, keep up the hard work
You should have seen how she was built on the inside... the T stock stringers were not welded to the inside of the hull. They were extruded to the hull plates as the hull plates were being formed all in one piece.
Great video and topic! It is interesting how the current America Cup hydrofoiling monohulls (class AC75) have the very same foil configuration of USS Plainview.
Canada had a similar style hydrofoil - HMCS Bras d'Or. Named after the lake where Alexander Graham Bell did his hydrofoil trials. Located on Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia.
If you want to see something really cool you should check out the super stripping shovels they used in the coal mines. A few examples are the captain, the silver spade, or the mountaineer. Would love to see a video on the topic!
Hydrofoils were, and still are an amazing technology, I remember the Germans designed a few hydrofoil based torpedo boats but I'm not sure how far they got before the end of the war
I was lucky to be aboard Soviet underwater-winged ships to take trips to the nearby lakes for weekends. The most elegant yet futuristic vehicles I've ridden. Sadly there's not a single one in service here now
I remember taking a hydrofoil from Sydney to Manly in Australia. This was back around 1981! I also remember some Navy ships back in San Diego. But I don’t think they were experimental.
Mustard may describe old unusual vehicles as one of history’s most ambitious concepts to have existed. But what people should also really understand is that Mustard himself could be one of the most ambitious documentary channel to ever exist today. And to support his work by signing up on nebula to watch exclusive videos is worthfully thing to do. And just like Mustard had said, he has to release a few videos in nebula to make some extra earning, and to add to that perspective, helping him through extra support is like funding an ambitious project that wont end in failure, there is no compromise within his content, only positive commitment and effort that keeps on improving.
I remember seeing the ship when I was in the USCG and we were at Lockeed for dry docking. The strike was good for the workers at the time. The motto was "eight for eight or out the gate". Meaning $8 and hour for 8 hours of work. Never actually saw the ship flying. Only on the news.
There were several hydro foil passager boat services in the Mediterranean in the 60s-90s. There was one on the Danube river between the cities of Budapest and Vienna until only a few years ago. Rising cost of fuel made them all unprofitable!
@@outerspaceoutlander You are right! They were more common than I thought. Even here in Sweden we had a service between Sweden and Denmark for many years.
Love this video, always have been fascinated with hydrofoils and always wondered why there were so few. I’m glad the luxury yacht market is doing some development but I wish there was more.
the main part of foil development of the past 20 years has been in the moth single sailor dinghy class. they had foil control and stability figured out long before supposed high tech superyacht series like americas cup adopted foils
Seems to me that this idea would have been better suited to a small raiding vessel, like a PT boat that could run up river systems, attack in packs in open water then retreat before the enemy fleet could respond, bigger ain’t always better.
Had the chance see one of the Navys PHMs before they retired them. While leaving Biston with low visibility CIC reported a fast mover . I had just enough time to see the PHM pass us on the port side. Impression machine. Shame the Navy didn't keep them. New " stealthier " boats could be deadly.
The music at 3:35 is just incredible! This music is soo good you should have just done a montage especially for this song and not cut into it's audio for narration.
That was great and I had no idea the US Navy did this too. The Royal Canadian Navy also experimented with the Hydrofoil, the HMCS Bras d’Or - named for the lake in Nova Scotia, Canada, where Alexander Graham Bell did his experiments with this HD-4, that you showed in the video. Oh and HMCS was the fastest warship at 63 knots, and was launched in 1968. She is preserved at the Musee Maritime de Quebec. Oh, and the remains of the hull of HD-4 are still preserved in Cape Breton Island at the Alexander Graham Bell Museum.
I was on the HMCS Bras D'Or this summer at L'Islet sur Mere on the south shore of the St. Lawrence River, Between Montreal and Quebec City off the trans Canada Highway. It is well worth a couple of hours for a guided tour and a look at the museum. I had been honored to personally know one of the designers for many years.
Too bad such a masterpiece is dumped on the shore in Washington state. I've visited it couple of times, and every time I'm amazed with it... the way it was built and the way it looks...
I feel retractable planners and impellers could benefit hovercraft technology... and maybe even some kind of wheel system underneath too to make it amphibious as much as we can.... but the future is truly riding on gravitational waves
The USS Plainfield is to date the largest hydrofoil ever built! Sadly she was partly scraped in the 1970s and what's left of her hull can still be found in Astoria, Oregon.
Lived in SE Alaska from 1980-94. It's all a Rock Pile along the SE Alaskan peninsula with all the islands, in fact, over 70% of U.S. Coastline is in Alaska. The Only way to get around was by Boat or Plane for the vast majority of the panhandle residents. The State Ferry System, or "Alaska Marine Highway", as it was known, was subsidized by State Royalties from the Oil companies and was a Very Inexpensive way to get you and your vehicle from Seattle to anywhere in the Panhandle, but it was Slow. It took nearly 3 days to get from the middle of the Panhandle (Petersburg) to Seattle. The AMH is now located in Bellingham, WA and saves half a day of life on the Ferry, but it's a very slow ride. Once you've seen 20 miles of SE Alaska by water, you've seen it all, it gets a little boring on a State run Ferry after a while. One Day while out Trolling for Chinook, a 100ft Vessel came through the Wrangle Narrows sitting way out of the water on what looked like stilts and was doing better than 50 Kts. It was loud, made little wake, maneuvered well and was very wide for a 100ft boat, and it had the Boeing Logo on the side. About a week later a Survey Co making random phone calls to SE residents called me. They asked if I'd seen this boat and when I answered yes, they had many more questions centered around how I felt about using this type of vessel as a Ferry and how much would I be willing to pay for the convenience of it's added speed. Well Obviously, it was a Boeing Hydrofoil designed for ferrying passengers and vehicles but to my amazement, it never was seen again in SE Alaska. What I'd found out later from a Boeing employee was that it hit a Whale and That was the end of That. SE Ak is abundant with sea life which includes Orca's, Humpbacks, massive surface schools of Salmon and endangered Steller Sea Lions to name a few of the Larger critters living beneath the waves. I think the idea of a Hydrofoil Ferry in SE was scrapped because of this. That said, there are some Giant Hovercraft running up and down the Stikine River between Ketchikan and some mining camp up river, maybe on option ?
I recall seeing this ship on the Washington side of the Columbia river across from Astoria Oregon. Near to what I know locally as Dismal Nitch. For years It sat there "BEACHED" and was slowly dismantled presumably for scrap. It was eye catchingly Cool looking.
The italian navy ended up making their own class of hydrofoils who actually remained in service for 20 years, and even sold a few to Japan, also the USSR i think explored at least the concept, the italians ones haven't been scrapped yet and a few have plans for mussealisation
USSR not just "explored the concept". There were 1300 hydrofoil ships built in USSR. Most of them were civilian transport ships and were not only used by USSR but also exported to a few dozen other countries.
Yep! And they poured money and effort into it! In the 1960's! Fucking insane we are in 2023 and most countries cannot even get trains right anymore. We are sinking backwards and its depressing as fuck.
My grandfather was stationed on the USS Wood County when it was acting as the mothership for the hydrofoil Tucumcari, he said watching a ship that size move that fast was just incredible
Its a shame War Thunder ruined hydrofoils because Tucumcari looked really fun back in the day
@@IgnoredAdviceProductions how did they ruin hydrofoils
@@mr.astronuts3825 They ruined the physics, turning is impossible now. They roll excessively and lose a lot of energy
@@IgnoredAdviceProductions they had to balance it
@@massimo3860 They could've balanced it by making them have zero survivability (which Mustard even touches upon in this video) instead of breaking physics....
Oh man, I was driving along the Columbia river one time, and stopped to see the half scrapped hull of Plainview. I was perplexed with the hydraulic cylinders on the aft portion that seemed to push something into the water. After finding out what the AGEH-1 Plainview actually was, I was happy to have been someone to actually see what was left of it. What a cool piece of history.
Sometimes I wonder how it would have felt to be an engineer in the 50s and 60s, a real golden era of mechanics and technology!
Nearly unlimited budgets
But everything that worked was too expensive except the mediocre stuff
Overwhelming.
Crazy to think they did manage to do amazing marvels of engineering during those years.
Dunno if it was that great, the biggest reason for much of the developments was downright fear of an enemy war attack at any moment, and you can bet the pressure to get it ready before the soviets did was there. Also as shown, you could see your project through your start towards your retirement just going on and on and then get abandoned anyway, no matter how incredible your work was.
It had it's fair share of amazing work to do but I can't really say it was better.
I had a friend that served on a hydrofoil, he stated that one major issue was the diesel engines were not powerful enough to keep up with the fleet for an extended time, leading to early failures of the diesels. When flying they were too fast and left the other ships behind.
Ah yes the NPC escort mission problem
If the new ship is way faster than the old ships, navies shouldn’t work to faze out the faster ship, but instead work to effectively make all of their ships match that speed.
Which is why Canada used a gas turbine in its hydrofoil....which actually hit up to 117 kph.....
You are a warlock at this kind of storytelling. The care and attention to detail is masterful. The music score. It's just such a delight for the viewer. Thank you.
shame about the bad grammar
@@DrWhom Well, technically not 'bad grammar'; rather, a grammatical error… of the worst kind.
It needs to be said more often that the UA-camrs who script their videos and take the most pride in their craft are the ones actually doing the best work. I for one have had a bellyful of creators saying, "Oh yeah well I've got five million subs" as if that were relevant.
I second this
@@DrWhom - “shame about the bad grammar”
And misleading terminology. I was disappointed to see the creator to resort to sort of sensationalism by calling the way these ships move on water "flying". The central part of "flying" is to not be in contact with the planetary surface (ground or water). That's not the case with these ships, so they are definitely not flying. The creator must have known that, or at least should have checked before using the word. Quite a few people are now unavoidably confused about the meaning of “flying” because of the creator’s bad choice. It would have been OK to talk about “flying” in a way that conveys it’s not a proper term, for example by saying something like “the movement resembles how a winged aircraft flies”.
On the good side are the excellent original graphics. Sounds funny, but they make my eyes feel physically good. I also appreciate the fact that the archived video material is presented in a very high quality, unlike on typical cheap productions available on UA-cam.
During my time in the US Navy, early 1980s, two classes of ships were considered the most desired to serve on, the Iowa class battleships and the PHM Pegasus class hydrofoils. Very different ships. While serving on my ASW Frigate, cruising in the Caribbean, we saw one of the PHMs strutting her stuff. Very impressive performance!
Hydrofoils, ekranoplans, giant SRN4 hovercraft...all absolutely fascinating engineering of the 60s and 70s... awesome videos thank you Mr Mustard.
Hydrofoils are still in use, ekranoplanes stopped existing because they couldnt do the one thing they were built to do unless the waves were under 6 feet high, and hovercraft are fairly niche in their usefulness, theyre all absolutely neat ideas, but only the good ones lived on
When hungry investors weren’t the only consideration, anything was possible.
It's interesting where hydrofoils are still used today. I ride one pretty frequently between Hong Kong and Macau, as the high speed ferry between the two is a pretty fast hydrofoil
Oh my god I would have loved to contribute some original footage of the Plainview in its current state (wrecked on the Columbia) to this video! I am cursed with all my favorite youtubers making videos on the stuff that I just spent days shooting IRL. Great job, stunning video!
Something tells me he'll be contacting you for that footage
please at least post that stuff t your channel
@@fulccrum2324 ha, working on it now!
Hah, i know that feeling, or having an idea/theory and someone else popularizes it and then people think i got it from them.
It actually happened quite frequently at the turn of the century, and was pretty demotivating, but yeah, just keep doing what you love.
@@AtomicAerials looking forward to see it!
I have ridden a Soviet made hydrofoil called Raketa or Rocket in English. When you are sitting at the front, it feels really awesome when it slightly lifts up from the water, it is mostly calm in the front but if you sit at the back, you can actually feel the speed of the boat. And the speed is not like other boat of that size, they are really fast.
Nothing beats good old 60s engineering, when people were constantly try to making machines that were straight out of fiction, sucks we don't have such things like this today.
Meanwhile what we have today:
Aircrafts capable of 20+ hours flight
SpaceX rockets taking off every several months, with parts of it capable of turning back and land automatically to be reused in future launches
James Webb telescope taking some of the most extraordinary pictures humans have ever seen
Mars rovers
You need to realize that even in the 60s, each project spanned nearly a whole decade if not more. Innovations don’t just pop up every day. We do have amazing stuffs too nowadays, if you care enough to check
back then people were more crazy, now we have experience
Engineers figured out what was cost and mission effective.
@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 No one denied that, though it is not be bad but today's tech is boring
Back then it is exciting Ekranoplan, Amphibious car, Concorde
@@Skaitania ...until russian fascists stop making empty threats and actually attack.
Better to have it and not need it.
I was stationed on the USS Sacramento in the late 70's. We sailed out of Bremerton with the USS Pegasus (I think). The problem with the little ship was lack of endurance. We had to refuel her at sea everyday. Typically, we would replenish ships every three or four days. And when she slowed down to refuel and float like a regular ship she would rock and roll. If I remember correctly she was made out of aluminum to save weight but I could be mistaken.
Bob
I remember going on Tour of USS Sacramento in Bremerton as a young kid. I used to watch on Puget Sound one of those Hydrofoil doing testing. Then they went on Hood Canal underwater Test Range, think if I remember right to shoot Torpedos.
@@rp1645 Those hydrofoils were pretty neat. There were actually two different types at Puget Sound Navel Shipyard in Bremerton at the time. The Pegasus was one but I can't remember the other. I don't think I saw the second one ever sail but again it was a long time ago and my memory may be a bit faulty.
Thank you for covering the USS Plainview. I live in Astoria, Oregon, and the Plainview's hull is beached across the Columbia river from me. Its sad that no one has tried to clean it up. A forgotten piece of naval history.
The uss highpoint is in astoria up on land in tongue point iv seen in recently its in way better shape then the plainview i was kinda amazed when i saw it over there whats the luck of having both ships on the mouth of the columbia
Sad that it was partially scrapped then abandoned. Many attempts to find/contact the owners go unanswered. She's too far gone to save or be worth much historically, but still a great landmark to enjoy on coast trips!!!
@@wheels-n-tires1846 shes actually was in great shape prior to the rear end being removed for scrap (i believe that is what it was used for.). Alas, now shes in such poor condition that its not worth it
well, i say that it wouldnt cost a lot to fully repair her, shes not a large ship and the material isn't the most expensive. Itd probably be more expensive to move her to a area they can restore her in
@@magnum6763 its certainly a shame!!! She was all aluminum, so itd actually be pretty expensive to repair her. And with so much equipment, as well as hull missing, sadly I imagine only a zilloinaire with a deep love (obsession??) for her could ever see it through...
Each RV trip to Ore, for many years, (fantastically scenic hwy 1), upon crossing the Columbia River marvel of Astoria Bridge, we stopped to visit Plainview. Each visit, more parts appeared missing.. Such a loss, when tourism enjoys viewing excellent displays, such as the Astoria US Coast Guard facility.. ;/
It kind-of did go somewhere though, in Italy and Japan through the Boeing company in the form of the Sparviero-class fast attack hydrofoil. They were in service from 1974-2010. Very heavily inspired by the Pegasus design.
Italy had the Nibbio/Sparviero class, which was a series of missile hydrofoils produced, as a residue of the NATO program for this type of vessel, in seven specimens, including the Sparviero prototype, which entered the Marina Militare during the seventies and were struck off in during the nineties, very similar to the American Pegasus.
Surprisingly small, they had a 90 rounds per minute OTO Compatto 76/62 gun and 2 Otomat long-range missiles, but the vessel's range was only 500 km and operating costs comparable to those of a frigate .
Three units were built, and delivered between 1993 and 1995, for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force on Fincantieri license from Sumitomo.
ua-cam.com/video/Q_TNGqQoP2g/v-deo.html (sorry for the music)
Cool video, fantastic production value as always! The Canadian navy launched the HMCS Bras d’Or in 1968, named after the lake where Alexander Graham Bell did his hydrofoil experiments. It hit a speed record of 63 knots when tested in 1969, but the program was cancelled in 1971, for cost overrun reasons.
Thankfully we at least decided to preserve the HMCS Bras D'Or.
I visited the Bras d'Or a few years ago, at the Musée maritime du Québec, L'Islet-sur-Mer. It is an amazing vessel at an amazing museum, well worth the detour.
*What is the black boat @**2:17**?*
Link for HMCS Bras D'Or.
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Also visited it.
Canada was so innovative back before we just let the USA do everything
When Mustard releases a video, I know it's going to be super high quality. Thanks for posting!
I don't have a name for it, but I get this sense of deep respect and awe (almost giddy, even) at the folks that put so much effort into these fantastical machines. Even if they were impractical, it's nice to imagine a world where you see hydrofoils roaming the earth.
Canada had a ship that was similar called the HMS Bras D’Or but the hydrofoils weren’t adjustable. I would love a video on that vessel too! It’s currently on display at the Maritime Museum of Quebec.
It's an awesome display piece - absolutely massive and awe-invoking to stand under. I highly recommend visiting that museum if anyone gets the chance.
@@leeterthanyou yes it’s certainly on my list. I want to see it in person after seeing this video and it’s scale mock-up in the Halifax Maritime Museum; another museum I highly recommend
Good Day : The model number for the Bras D'or is FHE 400 . There is a really good book on the market about it with a lot of interesting photos and diagrams . It's written by Thomas G. Lynch . It's title is "THE FLYING 400" by NIMBUS PUBLISHING LIMITED . Good book .
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Yeah nobody cares about boring Canada stuff. The Ekranoplans was cooler and has a previous mustard video on it so more relevant
I've actually seen the Plainview! She sits, partially scrapped in shallows on the shore of the Columbia river. She's a few miles east of Chinook, WA on the 101
Top notch research and production value as always, love your videos
Excellent Video, as always.
I grew up near the wreck of this and always thought it was fascinating, so glad someone big finally covered it!
Do you know when it was moved to it's current location? I only know roughly, thinking 1986-ish.
My sister moved from Seattle to Naselle in 1985, later moved to Long Beach. I made a couple of trips down there at that time, didn't see any wrecked metal ships on that stretch of the river. Was busy with other things for a couple of years, finally returned to visit in the spring on 1988. The ship was there, but it looked like it had just run aground about 20 feet from the bank. Assuming that storms pushed it ashore over the years.
That was about the time Lowell moved to Washington and took the Plainview with him. He had it towed from Astoria then pulled up onto the beach as far as he could.
@@Fred_Lougee I don’t sorry, I was born in 1997 so it’s always been there for me. It’s still there but it’s condition is a lot worse than it was 20 years ago obviously.
@@Tygor9000 I haven't even been down that way since 1995. My sis moved away, to Cannon Beach, and I just never had any reason to go there apart from the occasional visit to some friends in Naselle. But they have passed away, so now there's really no reason for me to go. It's a nice place, wish I could have lived there full time, but I am neither a logger, a farmer, or a fisherman, so no way to make a living.
The Canadian HMCS Bras d'Or deserve a mention as it was capable to reach 63 Knots, and was relatively stable even in rough water.
Canada had one too and it still exists - on land in Quebec (HMCS Bras d'Or at the Musée maritime du Québec) .
I came here to say this 😂
Dude when the synth kicked in and that ship was just cruising was so cool. Such a good transition. Great video.
Also, I would call this 'Naviation'.
Mustard is the best youtube channel I’ve ever come across in my lifetime, the writing, the stories and the cinematography is all so perfect I am so grateful to have stumbled across your videos. Fyi the nebula deal is very worth it.
I built a model of the pegasus class when I was a kid. I wondered what happened to them. Thanks for the information and satisfying my curiosity after all these years!
One of them still exists, actually! When the project closed, the ships were sold for scrap, and my uncle and two friends of his bought one and took it to Missouri, where they are working on restoring it. Look up the USS Aries hydrofoil museum. It's a pretty cool ship, I spent a lot of time on it as a kid.
I think it would be fun to talk about the HMCS Bras d'Or (FHE 400), which at the time, would've been the fastest warship in the world, hitting speeds of 63 knots in the late 60's.
HMCS Bras d-Or could do 63 knots at "full military" or 72 mph during trials. Kind of like the Avro Arrow, jealous neighbours spiked it.
more more MORE MUSTARD VIDEOS PLEASE.
Awesome that this wasn’t just some project that never got beyond some scale model. Really awesome footage and diagrams. Also noticed this was built during a time before labor unions were completely neutered.
It was the unions that ruined the labor market and pushed the left wing fuckery we see today
An EXCELLENT video, production, research, narration! BRAVO!
Babe quick, new mustard video just dropped.
I worked on the Pegasus, and was SO proud of the hydrofoils. They even were sent over to the gulf to chase the little Iranian gun boats (scared the crap out of them) The civlian version are still flying in Japan.
I have always be fascinated by Hydrofoil warships, especially when I read about the Grumman HYD-2 related proposals, M163, which was supposed to go 53.1 knots and the smaller but even faster Grumman M165, which was planned to go 70 knots
Seems like every cool concept that never came to be comes down to "times no longer ask for this extravaganza".
This is such an amazing channel - always learning something new!
I worked at Long Beach Naval Shipyard during the early 1970's. We installed the turret from the M 551 Sheridan Tank, on one of the small hydrofoils as a experiment. The gun was able to fire either the Shillelagh missile, or a conventional high explosive projectile.
I believe it wasn't a success because when fired the recoil was so heavy. It caused the hydrofoils to fail. It would cause the ship to lose lift, making the hydrofoils useless.
Awesome illustrations, music, editing, production, and voiceover. I could watch a Mustard video on any subject and it would be enjoyable. Thanks
At 3:18 when he says “when the navy realized that: ocean” thought he was gonna say “navy realized: oh shit!”
man i love your videos they are of high quality, i understand the wait since the amount of effort you put it into your videos. keep up the good work!
Always great to sit down and watch a Mustard video
It's always a going to be a good day when Mustards uploads
Italian Navy had in the '80 the Sparviero-class patrol boat that used the same principle, they were 60 tons and had a speed of over 50 knots.
The wait is long,but it is always more than worth it
Your music is just awesome!
This channel is the definition of quality over quantity
Impressive simulations of craft on this page. Nicely done.
I was lucky enough to ride on one of those old soviet style hydrofoils for about 6 hours up the Yangtze river from Yichang, 2008. Amazing old machine, super fast.
Every morning I wake up and make myself some food, and usually with nobody to talk to, I find myself watching your videos. Thanks man, keep up the hard work
USS Plainview is one of the most beautiful ships ever made
Agreed, the aerodynamic smokestack trailing behind the bridge makes the ship look so damn futuristic
You should have seen how she was built on the inside... the T stock stringers were not welded to the inside of the hull. They were extruded to the hull plates as the hull plates were being formed all in one piece.
Thanks for posting music titles :) Love the choice.
Thanks for once again bringing us an awesome piece of content!
1 dollar!!!! How exciting!!
Very interesting and the quality of production is really impressive.
One of the hydrofoils, USS Flagstaff, served in the Coast Guard after its naval service, where it's speed was an advantage against smugglers.
Mustve been a terrifying sight lol
very interesting!
@@anxiousearth680 probably mistake It as modrenized "flying dutchman" at night
This is really great content. Thanks.
Man my day is made everytime when mustard uploads
His nebula page is worth the price alone.
Great video and topic! It is interesting how the current America Cup hydrofoiling monohulls (class AC75) have the very same foil configuration of USS Plainview.
I have to say I absolutely love this channels, the topics, the animation, the voice, its just all perfect.
Canada had a similar style hydrofoil - HMCS Bras d'Or. Named after the lake where Alexander Graham Bell did his hydrofoil trials. Located on Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia.
It's currently in the Quebec Maritime museum - absolutely massive ship. 100% worth the trip to see.
The lake (which is actually a tidal estuary) is in Cape Breton Island; the ship is at Musée Maritime du Québec at L'Islet-sur-Mer.
That b2 spirit video, among all other very good content on nebula, was a real gem. Best few bucks I've spent in a long time
If you want to see something really cool you should check out the super stripping shovels they used in the coal mines. A few examples are the captain, the silver spade, or the mountaineer. Would love to see a video on the topic!
That has nothing to do with this.
Oh my god, the animation, the information, the background synth wave. Everything and I mean everything falls short of a good ol Mustard video
Hydrofoils were, and still are an amazing technology, I remember the Germans designed a few hydrofoil based torpedo boats but I'm not sure how far they got before the end of the war
I was lucky to be aboard Soviet underwater-winged ships to take trips to the nearby lakes for weekends. The most elegant yet futuristic vehicles I've ridden. Sadly there's not a single one in service here now
I remember taking a hydrofoil from Sydney to Manly in Australia. This was back around 1981! I also remember some Navy ships back in San Diego. But I don’t think they were experimental.
Mustard may describe old unusual vehicles as one of history’s most ambitious concepts to have existed.
But what people should also really understand is that Mustard himself could be one of the most ambitious documentary channel to ever exist today.
And to support his work by signing up on nebula to watch exclusive videos is worthfully thing to do.
And just like Mustard had said, he has to release a few videos in nebula to make some extra earning, and to add to that perspective, helping him through extra support is like funding an ambitious project that wont end in failure, there is no compromise within his content, only positive commitment and effort that keeps on improving.
I love hydrofoils. The physics behind them makes perfect sense, but when you see one in person you cant help but ask "How is that possible?"
I remember seeing the ship when I was in the USCG and we were at Lockeed for dry docking. The strike was good for the workers at the time. The motto was "eight for eight or out the gate". Meaning $8 and hour for 8 hours of work. Never actually saw the ship flying. Only on the news.
I’m surprised that hydrofoils aren’t more used today
And love the content keep up the good work😁
check out the americas cup, or sailgp, or to a lesser extent the volvo ocean race. watch some of the race content. Its nuts!!!
There were several hydro foil passager boat services in the Mediterranean in the 60s-90s. There was one on the Danube river between the cities of Budapest and Vienna until only a few years ago. Rising cost of fuel made them all unprofitable!
@@stefansoder6903 several? Soviet Union built somewhat 1300 hydrofoil ships, they were exported to 30 countries. Some of them saw your Thames river.
@@outerspaceoutlander You are right! They were more common than I thought. Even here in Sweden we had a service between Sweden and Denmark for many years.
The way Mustard makes technology, engineering, and science come to life in these vehicle videos is inspiring.
Love this video, always have been fascinated with hydrofoils and always wondered why there were so few. I’m glad the luxury yacht market is doing some development but I wish there was more.
the main part of foil development of the past 20 years has been in the moth single sailor dinghy class.
they had foil control and stability figured out long before supposed high tech superyacht series like americas cup adopted foils
We need more mustard videos he's the best!!
Seems to me that this idea would have been better suited to a small raiding vessel, like a PT boat that could run up river systems, attack in packs in open water then retreat before the enemy fleet could respond, bigger ain’t always better.
Love seeing new videos from Mustard!!🥰
Had the chance see one of the Navys PHMs before they retired them.
While leaving Biston with low visibility CIC reported a fast mover . I had just enough time to see the PHM pass us on the port side. Impression machine. Shame the Navy didn't keep them. New " stealthier " boats could be deadly.
Another great vid. Thanks!
The navy really said: *“I want a boat that does not boat but can also be a boat”*
Thanks for the extremly high production quality! Mustard Bros videos are always gemstones in my subscription box!
The music at 3:35 is just incredible!
This music is soo good you should have just done a montage especially for this song and not cut into it's audio for narration.
What is the song called?
I remember as a child in the 1940`s an advert in a model magazine of a hydrofoil plan of a boat model called Hook`s model.
If you ever have the opportunity to get a ride on a hydrofoil don’t pass it up! It’s a blast!😬👌🏼
When you have to watch it twice because you're too distracted by the bad ass synth wave tune in the background. Great video as always.
That was great and I had no idea the US Navy did this too. The Royal Canadian Navy also experimented with the Hydrofoil, the HMCS Bras d’Or - named for the lake in Nova Scotia, Canada, where Alexander Graham Bell did his experiments with this HD-4, that you showed in the video. Oh and HMCS was the fastest warship at 63 knots, and was launched in 1968. She is preserved at the Musee Maritime de Quebec. Oh, and the remains of the hull of HD-4 are still preserved in Cape Breton Island at the Alexander Graham Bell Museum.
I was on the HMCS Bras D'Or this summer at L'Islet sur Mere on the south shore of the St. Lawrence River, Between Montreal and Quebec City off the trans Canada Highway. It is well worth a couple of hours for a guided tour and a look at the museum. I had been honored to personally know one of the designers for many years.
With all the new technology and materials would be nice to see an updated version.
Too bad such a masterpiece is dumped on the shore in Washington state. I've visited it couple of times, and every time I'm amazed with it... the way it was built and the way it looks...
Something about your videos makes them so good
6:39 When the Mustard hits the fan
I feel retractable planners and impellers could benefit hovercraft technology... and maybe even some kind of wheel system underneath too to make it amphibious as much as we can.... but the future is truly riding on gravitational waves
The USS Plainfield is to date the largest hydrofoil ever built! Sadly she was partly scraped in the 1970s and what's left of her hull can still be found in Astoria, Oregon.
Lived in SE Alaska from 1980-94. It's all a Rock Pile along the SE Alaskan peninsula with all the islands, in fact, over 70% of U.S. Coastline is in Alaska. The Only way to get around was by Boat or Plane for the vast majority of the panhandle residents. The State Ferry System, or "Alaska Marine Highway", as it was known, was subsidized by State Royalties from the Oil companies and was a Very Inexpensive way to get you and your vehicle from Seattle to anywhere in the Panhandle, but it was Slow. It took nearly 3 days to get from the middle of the Panhandle (Petersburg) to Seattle. The AMH is now located in Bellingham, WA and saves half a day of life on the Ferry, but it's a very slow ride. Once you've seen 20 miles of SE Alaska by water, you've seen it all, it gets a little boring on a State run Ferry after a while. One Day while out Trolling for Chinook, a 100ft Vessel came through the Wrangle Narrows sitting way out of the water on what looked like stilts and was doing better than 50 Kts. It was loud, made little wake, maneuvered well and was very wide for a 100ft boat, and it had the Boeing Logo on the side. About a week later a Survey Co making random phone calls to SE residents called me. They asked if I'd seen this boat and when I answered yes, they had many more questions centered around how I felt about using this type of vessel as a Ferry and how much would I be willing to pay for the convenience of it's added speed. Well Obviously, it was a Boeing Hydrofoil designed for ferrying passengers and vehicles but to my amazement, it never was seen again in SE Alaska. What I'd found out later from a Boeing employee was that it hit a Whale and That was the end of That. SE Ak is abundant with sea life which includes Orca's, Humpbacks, massive surface schools of Salmon and endangered Steller Sea Lions to name a few of the Larger critters living beneath the waves. I think the idea of a Hydrofoil Ferry in SE was scrapped because of this. That said, there are some Giant Hovercraft running up and down the Stikine River between Ketchikan and some mining camp up river, maybe on option ?
Not just a weird project, not even a weird military project, it's a weird *naval* project.
Now THIS is what I like to see!
I loved the b2 video. Excellent stuff.
What music is at 3:58?
I recall seeing this ship on the Washington side of the Columbia river across from Astoria Oregon.
Near to what I know locally as Dismal Nitch.
For years It sat there "BEACHED" and was slowly dismantled presumably for scrap.
It was eye catchingly Cool looking.
The italian navy ended up making their own class of hydrofoils who actually remained in service for 20 years, and even sold a few to Japan, also the USSR i think explored at least the concept, the italians ones haven't been scrapped yet and a few have plans for mussealisation
USSR not just "explored the concept". There were 1300 hydrofoil ships built in USSR. Most of them were civilian transport ships and were not only used by USSR but also exported to a few dozen other countries.
@@outerspaceoutlander I don't know much about the ussr program, but still I wasn't talking about civilian use, which is a totally different subject
I love this channel its so interesting to find out about weird and wacky things!!
A plane that can sail, a ship that can fly
Engineering is a miracle of it's own
Yep! And they poured money and effort into it! In the 1960's! Fucking insane we are in 2023 and most countries cannot even get trains right anymore. We are sinking backwards and its depressing as fuck.
Any day Mustard uploads is a good day
In an alternate timeline: Hydrofoil vs Ekranoplan
I think Ekranoplane was solely for the Soviet Black Sea Fleet. Wouldn't be able to go on the high seas.