'South of the Border' World in Action 1971 - Troubles Documentary
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'South of the Border' World in Action 1971 - Troubles Documentary
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Growing up during the troubles in Belfast was a crazy time. I’ve seen a lot of young people online recently saying that they’d “take up arms” for their side . These people don’t realise what this period was like for both catholics and Protestants. Friends , families , co workers dying on a yearly basis , sometimes multiple funerals a year .
You were too cowardly to join and help defend the murder of your countryman? Nice!!
One of the main reasons I decided to take this on. At least in some small way these documentary give an idea of how it was but they will never fully grasp living through those days with no end in sight.... I still can't believe we came out of it. Appreciate the comment chum. Merry Christmas to you.
Im from the Republic these young ijuts must be stopped!
Garrett Fitzgerald has them to a tee!
They're watching videos on social media that glorify the troubles. They are bored and think it would be good crack to go back to the rioting every night. If only the knew the fear and pain we went through on a daily basis. I remember going to work every morning and hoping I came home especially in late 80s early 90s
Well said
extraordinary footage. I grew up in all this and i have to say that at a young age most of it sailed right over my head so these docus are priceless to me. Well done again mate, you are doing a great service
I hope everybody appreciates how extraordinary this footage is. Only ATL could put this on the channel for all to see.
Nollaig Shona Duit mo Chara! 🎄🤶💚🇮🇪
I agree
So do i , Thank you for this
Did 4 tours from the late 70s and 80s. Although I’m proud in a way - I joined up under no illusions - and even enjoyed it, historically Britain (and England before that) were wrong. And they committed dreadful crimes upon the Irish people. Over centuries. I have no truck with indiscriminate bombers. But I can respect the soldiers who bore arms against the British Army. It wasn’t a war. It became, for us, a counter-insurgency operation. It remained for the IRA and Sinn Fein a fight for freedom. I knew many such freedom fighters. We both lost our brothers. I’m glad the Irish people in the north have peace, albeit fragile. I served with ex-miners. We wondered if we might find ourselves in IRA boots had our fates been otherwise. The British political cant was disingenuous.
Were you infantry?
A fair & articulate comment from someone who was there
@@gw2891 Yes. Royal Hampshire Regiment.
Well said a balanced and justified comment.
Conor Cruise was some hypocrite. The biggest egomaniac of all time.
He became a Unionist in late life
It all could have been avoided - very sad.
It couldn't.
As a southerner, it really makes me sick hearing the pontificating of Garett Fitgerald and Conor O'Brien. They had no idea of what it was like to live in Northern Ireland during this time.
The majority of catholics voted for the SDLP
What did you want Jack Lynch to do? The problem was Maudling and Heath who didn't bring in direct rule when the soldiers came.
Faulkner and Dr No destroyed it.
Neither did you
@@stephenholmes1036 Thinking one might muse that the historical narrative was that Reggie Maudling and Ted Heath only came to power in the Spring of 1970, being so it was James Callaghan and Harold Wilsons government that were in power in 1966-1970 predated that of Maudling and Heaths government 19th June 1970, [ but as for those Direct Rule plans that came in much, much later 28th March1972] other events were to the fore out of Downings Street ,'Falls Curfew' July 1970, Internment 9th August 1971 then of course Bloody Sunday 30 Jan 1972...
Self-interest, amazing how southern politicians are exactly the same now, over 50 years later.
🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️🇮🇪❤️ Ireland is NOT a troubled land and never has been any where in Ireland,.. England is the problem NOT Ireland,. In the North and the South of England life is very much different yet England is one country with no border,.. There is NO problem in the North and the south of Ireland, just the problem that England as created,.. Ireland is the most peaceful country in the whole of Europe, they've never wanted to invade England,.. Or any other country for that matter... 💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪💓🇮🇪,
Only because they hadn't the means to do so lol
Well said mo chara
Amazing point in time documentary. Reflects that in 1971 the situation was out of control. Fitzgerald and Cruise O’Brien sounded desperate whereas the Provos sounded composed. The fact that the Chief of Staff of the Provos could appear on a public platform in Dublin showed how weak the Lynch government was after the Arms trial debacle.
Let's be honest and honest here. Conor Cruise O'Brien will never be forgotten for his role in the Congo, that almost cost the lives of many Irish troops and, if it wasn't for their bravery in one of the biggest battles Irish troops ever faced abroad, there would have been lots of Irish blood on his hands. His word in relation to anything Irish, could never be trusted after that. As for Garret Fitzgerald, he represented a party at the time that was quietly pro-commonwealth, which of course was the opposite to any living Irish person at that time, so he too could be taken with an Irish pinch of salt. That said, GF was around, and instrumental in the process of the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 and he will be remembered forever for that. However, as long as the British Flag fly's in NI, there will always be trouble. So, why doesn't the real Government put forward proposals for a United Ireland to the Crown
My folks thankfully managed to get to South Africa in the 70s but we still visited family every few years my mum and dad were so heartsore seeing what was happening. My dad passed before he was able to go back one last time mam the same.
Why aren't these groups concerned about Ireland now having completely open borders and allowing , even encouraging, the rest of the world to pour in ? All at the expense of native Irish people.
Fought a 40 year war because of one country now we are getting invaded by multiple countries and it's encouraged, it's the globalists telling the politicians what to do, it's a complete breakdown of our way of life.
Didn't know an Englishman in charge of the military of the IRA in 1971😮
I don’t think anybody who considered himself an Englishman was. Sean McStiophian obviously did not consider himself English 🇮🇪🇮🇪.
Quite a surprise that. Maybe he was of Irish heritage.
The British Army were in a catch 22 situation,damed if they do & damed if they dont!!
What a heid of hair old Garret Fitzgerald had 😂
Thank You for the videos
We may have great men, but we'll never have better...Our day Will Come..
Your day has passed. Your country is flooding with those that owe it nothing, or are you yet to notice?
I am 59 in/from Liverpool, I have studied the history of Ireland ... I can understand (over the period of history) why people have joined the I.R.A. yet the only outcome - way forward is democratic politics. As for my perspective, I am a Nationalist ... I have no doubt that within the next twenty years ( I hope I see it!) Ireland will be a 32 county Irish Republic, how by democratic politics!.
One thing I hate is The Border ... Its the British Partition of Ireland!.
State of sinn fein now
I'm Scottish a love the documentaries pateon cover
SEASONS GREETINGS,,, Great documentary series,,,,, 👌👍👍☘️☘️☘️✌️🇮🇪
Fitzgerald reminds me of Varadkar
Fascinating, think they genuinely thought that it was 1921 part two, victory was insight. Often overlooked the southern contribution to the rising originally. Although they didn’t stand for election, they had a lot of support down south….Fitzgerald and O Brien wanted to save their little state…
Thank you for another great footage. I remember these things happen vaguely. As i was also very young.
That cratering of the roads on the border seemed completely pointless.
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The old car was very clever. If you know you know))
Sean Stephen aka Sean mc stoifan AN ENGLISH MAN...COLLUSION WAS ALWAYS HAPPENING EVEN BK THEN.
Now Sinn Fein in 2024 is the biggest political party.
How fuckin big was that hole in the road!
I saw a short film some years ago of PIRA in the early days giving military honours to the deaths of British soldiers in N Ireland
Respect for the life of a soldier.
i've seen british troop, officers too, saluting a passing IRA volunteers funeral cortege.
@@JimboBond71 Yes, I may have been confused. It was a few years ago.
It was during the funeral of Charlie Hughes, a PIRA volunteer killed in a fued with OIRA, a British soldier saluted the passing cortege.
@@josephcurley8226 fair play joe Charlie was respected from castle street to poleglass and beyond man of the falls 🫡
Fight War ☮️ Not Wars. ✌🏻
C.R.O halfwith
I always think the politicians of the time were wishy washy and ambiguous in relation to this struggle. Fitzgerald is a good example.
John Hume, wasnt, Bernadette Devlin wasnt, Jack Lynch was a good man our last honest Taosach
@@stephenholmes1036 The Irish government didn't do much to help the nationalists up north. Maybe I'm wrong.
@@countsmyth The mudee of a Garda officer didn't help early om.
It was a very difficult situation
@@stephenholmes1036 your're having a laugh
Being a newly married eighteen year old in Belfast in 1969 on the Protestant side of Crumlin Rd just below Ardoyne chapel. I also find these archived accounts invaluable. I couldn’t see the bigger picture at the time. But now looking back I have to think what was it all for? They didn’t want us to have six counties , but welcomed the third world in which is now taking over, 52 mosques in Dublin! Make it make sense!
You’re upset because people want to practice their religion? Pathetic. Get a grip.
"They" being Irish Republicans wanted to re-unite the country. It wasn't about everyone being Irish and Catholic, more about everyone being Irish regardless of religion. At least for Republicans. What have Mosques to do with anything? So what if an immigrant population with a different religion practice their faith here? It's not as though they are trying to dominate any groups of people with a different faith.....
💯 % right ✅️ !
"....but welcomed the third world in which is now taking over,...." The same thing was said about Ireland and the Irish when they were immigrants to other nations. The Irish don't get to complain about immigration. Neither do the English, Scottish or Welsh for that matter.
Can't beat a bit of bigotry 😂
If the Troubles never happened, would we be in the same position as we are in now, with Sinn Fein being the largest party in the North? Just curious what people think.
No wzy
Same here alot went over our heads down south,but i do remember been a kid and cycleing every day down Mrs Tyrells shop to see had she put up any new pictures of hunger strikers that had passed warriors of Ireland,it hit me hard as a preteen they only wanted POW status it was that simple for me its our country british troops on streets of the occupied counties was a war,a lot i dont know these docu's fill in the gaps in my Irish History,Thank you ☘️💯
Arklow ? I remember this at Tyrells shop. Thanks
"occupied counties"?
Yea, "occupied" by people that wanted nothing to do with the likes of O'braudagh. And no wonder.
Then you should of taken up arms and helped out your fellow brethren then
7:45 Can anyone say "called it?"
Keep them flowing my Bredren ❤
Its only the BRit s
Very interesting that at 2:10 and 22:40 the front Bencher calls the PIRA “ fascist " and "Nazis". He also calls them socialist, so I shall refer to them as national socialists .
This term may certainly be applied to Sin Fein today. This secterianism also is a parallel to say Hamas or the PLO which find many supporters in Irland and NI today. If we then remember how keen the Irish were on Adolf Hitler.........
The rampant antisemitism today amongst the Irish left also underlines their national socialist credentials .
Tiocfaidh ar la
You asked me to "edit" what i said, how? Id nog posyed it yet, it was only once i posted it you came with edit, or post anyway, well ofcourse i posted it Anyway. Thankyou. Pity we were fooled!
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