New Grinders from Milwaukee Tool are Missing One Key Feature!
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2021
- Milwaukee Tool has announced 2 new specialty Grinders that are defiantly gonna make certain tradespeople more productive and efficient and that means they’re gonna increase their bottom line. But… if we’re being honest here…I’m scratching my head because these new grinders are missing one key feature.
M18 FUEL™ 5” Flathead Braking Grinder, Paddle Switch No-Lock (2886-20) - $279.00
• RPM: 8,500 RPM
• Switch Type: Paddle Switch No-Lock
• Disk Size: 5”
• Arbor Size (in.): 5/8”
• Tool-Free Guard Change: Yes
• Brake: Yes
• Overload Protection: Yes
• Adjustable Handle: Yes
• Tool Length: 14”
• Tool Weight: 3 lbs
Includes: M18 FUEL™ 5” Flathead Braking Grinder, Paddle Switch No-Lock (2886-20), (1) Flange Nut, (1) Back Flange, (1) T27 Guard, (1) T1 Guard, (1) Spanner Wrench & Large Contractor Bag.
M18 FUEL™ 5” Flathead Braking Grinder, Slide Switch Lock-On
(2887-20) - $279.00
• RPM: 8,500 RPM
• Switch Type: Paddle Switch No-Lock
• Disk Size: 5”
• Arbor Size (in.): 5/8”
• Tool-Free Guard Change: Yes
• Brake: Yes
• Overload Protection: Yes
• Adjustable Handle: Yes
• Tool Length: 14”
• Tool Weight: 3 lbs
Includes: M18 FUEL™ 5” Flathead Braking Grinder, Slide Switch, Lock On (2887-20), (1) Flange Nut, (1) Back Flange, (1) T27 Guard, (1) T1 Guard, (1) Spanner Wrench & Large Contractor Bag.
M18 FUEL™ 4-½" / 5” Variable Speed Braking Grinder, Paddle Switch No-Lock (2888-20) - $219.00
• RPM: 3,500-8,500 RPM
• Switch Type: Paddle Switch No-Lock
• Disk Size: 4-½" - 5”
• Arbor Size (in.): 5/8”
• Tool-Free Accessory Change: Yes
• Brake: Yes
• Overload Protection: Yes
• Adjustable Handle: Yes
• Variable Speed: Yes
• Tool Length: 13”
• Tool Weight: 3 lbs.
Includes: M18 FUEL™ 4-½" / 5” Variable Speed Braking Grinder, Paddle Switch No-Lock (2888-20), (1) Flange Nut, (1) Back Flange, (1) T27 Guard, (1) T1 Clip-On Guard, (1) Spanner Wrench & Large Contractor Bag.
M18 FUEL™ 4-½" / 5” Variable Speed Braking Grinder, Slide Switch Lock-On (2889-20) - $219.00
• RPM: 3,500-8,500 RPM
• Disk Size: 4-½" - 5”
• Switch Type: Slide Switch Lock-On
• Arbor Size (in.): 5/8”
• Tool-Free Accessory Change: Yes
• Brake: Yes
• Overload Protection: Yes
• Adjustable Handle: Yes
• Variable Speed: Yes
• Tool Length: 13”
• Tool Weight: 3 lbs.
Includes: M18 FUEL™ 4-½" / 5” Variable Speed Braking Grinder, Slide Switch Lock-On (2889-20), (1) Flange Nut, (1) Back Flange, (1) T27 Guard, (1) T1 Clip-On Guard, (1) Spanner Wrench & Large Contractor Bag.
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On the X Lock
Until the patient runs out or a massive chock a mull check is wrote by Milwaukee I do not think Bosch would give X Lock to them. Bosch would be nuts to do so.
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A speed dial would be cool!
I agree.
Cool update Vince I'm waiting for the 40 volt Makita with X Lock
Oh yeah now that would be awesome x lock with 40v XGT line
I've used and own an m18 brushed grinder. I used the first fuel brushless grinder. I used both with 6.0xc batteries. They drain the battery in 8-10 minutes of continuous use. The welder at our work has the paddle version seen in this video. I got to use it with the 12.0 high output battery. It' performed better than the corded metabo, dewalt and makita. It's the smoothest grinder cleaning flanges and welds using the wire wheel. I used it for 5 minutes. On 4 6 inch flanges. It still had 4 bars when I was done.
]the Dewalt corded had a higher RPM.
The batteries are more than the grinders.
If you got the money this grinder is awesome.
I would definitely be able use those low profile grinders
In my line of work i use the milwaukee 9 inch angle grinder with the fixtec locking system, ive found that to get the most out of this angle grinder is to use 3mm steel cutting discs and have two 12 amp high output batteries and have a charging dock with me at all times, as one battery on full charge lasts 45 minutes of cutting time on one battery which in my opinion is poor considering the price
Just purchased the 2980-20 with 13A power and it handles 4-1/2 to 6-1/4 disks. Used it with a 6.0 battery for some concrete grinding already and am thoroughly satisfied with this tool. Now I just need a better facemask to deal with the concrete dusk ugh!!
Awesome tool 😎
I’m looking at that one now. How long do you suppose it lasts? I got the high output 6.0 batteries. I’ve been wary of getting a cordless grinder because the time that i use them for. I cut, grind, bevel, deburr, remove paint, slag, and polish metal so it’s my most used tool by far.
I think the feature the M18 brushless grinders lack is a top mounting hole for the handle. My cheap Skil and MasterCraft grinders do, the brushed M18 does too. I don't get why they don't put it on the other grinders.
I am a tile setter and use cordless grinders on the daily. I cannot use X-Lock because most tile cutting bits / blades do not work with that system. The grinder is really nice but is more suited to metal workers. Mikita seems to do a bit better in my trade. The smaller batteries, grip, slid switches allow holding the grinder at different angles more comfortable pulse help with balance. I would love to see them make a grinder with some of these features so I can have one battery system.
You're right! The corded 60 dollar grinders with the thumb switch work awesome for tile
They want their tools to be usable. Until x lock is accessible everywhere and had every variety of blade it's not practical for most people
X-locks take standard disks as well so, you kind of wrong.
aaaand they have pretty much every accessory wheel available already so...
@@vitalsteve1 if I can't go to any of the home depots or lowes or ronas in my area and get a xlock diamond mesh blade. Then they are still inconvenient
@@adamderoches8723 go check your store then, mine carries them. also, you can buy them online and have them shipped to your house. the world is bigger than the block on which you live...
@@paedahe4975 are you sure ? I'm pretty sure that it doesn't. How can it takes standard disk ? Did there is an accessory that I've missed x-lock to M14 ?
I picked up a Mikita with the x lock and it has been excellent. I do prefer Milwaukee tools but I am perfectly fine sticking with the Mikita until Milwaukee changes.
Damn, I was really hoping they’d come out with a xlock or faster blade exchange.
Respectful Vince German Metabo has had the flat head grinder for at least 10 years that I know of. I have been using the Metabo version for about 9 years or so. The Metabo version is in cordless and corded. There available at an Metabo dealer.
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Hey Vince I have a DeWalt convert. He put his DeWalt 20v impact against my M12 installation drill and burnt it out and used my drill with the 6.0 battery. And 1/4"×6" torx head bolts (14)of them plus framed the enclosed deck and decking azack decking and by the end of the day he ended up buying one. Lmao GOT EM BRO
love my makita xlock
I am excited to try the new grinders. I have the current m18 fuel and I just hate the paddle switch.
For sending and polishing, should I get the regular one or the flathead grinder?
Great video as always. When are we going to see a review on the light peeking out behind you there?
I plan on using one for polished granite!😍
I own three of these grinders. But there's a reason actual grinding discs stay on my corded model. I have 8 ah batteries and extended use will make them run super hot. I keep one with a cutting disc, one with a sanding disc, and one with a wire wheel. Light finishing work.
Hello again Vince and Vcg
Thank you for another Great Video. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
I'm 18 and I do siding, Im about to start my own company so I need to buy all kinds of power tools and these videos have been super helpful, I'm going to stick w Milwaukee fuel tools w only high output batteries. I don't hardly ever need to use a grinder so I think I'll be fine, but this is very good to know.
I don’t want x lock. I have 4 grinders and wish to avoid complications with different formats.
I see the advantages of x loc but I would want all my tools to have it. I like having grinders dedicated for wire brush, hard wheel, flapper disc, cutting wheel etc.
I spoke to Flex and said would be amazing to see the x lock technology on there grinders I bet Bosch is refusing to alow other companies other then Makita to use it wouldn't surprise me not like you find the bosch x lock grinders in stores great video as always vince appreciate the info Cuz
Truly unfortunate
A very Happy Christmas to the VCG. Thanks for what you do mate.
I'm fine with the old way on securing the cutoff or grinding wheels to the grinder, I don't use my grinder on a daily basis or I don't do any production work requiring instant wheel changes.
Who knows, Milwaukee may come up with their own design for a quick change.
@VCG Construction 🚧 thank you for the update.
Vince, I can't find any mention of E-Clutch with kickback protection on either version of the variable speed grinder. If that is missing, that is a key feature you can't just buy an after market tool free lock nut.
Muchas gracias!
I think it is more likely Milwaukee (and others) don't want to pay the licence fee for X-lock, in the same way some brands still won't move to Starlock.
Merry Christmas Vince and Fam. Love the Shop Cats. :)
Merry Christmas to you and yours Howie! They’re brothers and they’re good watch cats!
The Cat in the background is adorable!
You are so terrific Vince. Merry Christmas!
That makes sense for it to be an angry competitor thing. I was surprised to see their fuel oscillating tools not include starlock. I don’t think any Dewalt’s feature x lock or starlock either.
🤙🏼🍩☕🎁🎄 Hope you and your wife and your family have a wonderful blessed Christmas
To you and yours as well Kona! Thanks for everything!
I use grinders almost every day, I have 4 or 5 setup, I hate them all but one. Any of them with a switch typically suck. They get caked with debris and wont lock on. I have actually been looking for new grinders, and the X-Lock seems nice, but not a requirement since I have each tool setup with a different attachment (grinder, cutter wire wheel etc). My favorite is my big DeWalt, that locking nut on that thing is awesome, makes changes pretty dang fast.
Merry Christmas to you and the family
Metabo came out with the cordless to corded option. witch would be amazing for the heavy tools like the table saw or chop saw or circ even. I asked the Makita rep if they were planning on something similar and they said some garbage answer "we believe cordless will provide all your needs on a jobsite" that made me refuse to enter into their new XGT lineup. Give US the damn option. The more toolmakers that follow metabo on this will make more people switch to their platform. for example Milwaukee or dewalt or bosch. Turn those cordless tools that are ... ok. into corded BEASTS given the correct situation. don't try to sell me on a cordless stationary object like a chop or table saw. Sell me a corded saw that has an option to run on a battery if the situation calls for it.
I believe the engineers would like to do that but the marketing clowns that could not give free coupons to a whore house away to sailors seem to be running companies.
i'm glade you said it. since the rise of battery power tools i said why couldn't we have both systems in one this way if you work long hours and you run out of juice you can plug the tool in. batteries are still expensive and you have to carry lots of them with you.
@@virusthewolf It is about battery sales. But you would think if they sold a cordless table saw that came with a corded adapter, you would sell more saws to people not yet on your platform.
That would be sweet! Then have the cord charge the batter too!
Thank you for the video vice
I use grinders nearly everyday. I have no desire for X-lock.. like Milwaukee corded grinders but having bought 2 Milwaukee fuel grinders one I gave away the second is relegated to cutoff discs. Thinking of trying a Metabo cordless next
its on the pricey side but definitely take a look at the 40v makita grinders. definitely one of the best available
I can live with taking 10 seconds to swap a disc
ok turtle
For real!! If anything i want paddle switch with locking ability. My old Ryobi has that and i use it constantly just because of it.
You have to 😂
Merry Christmas and I saw a CAT in the background.
I’ve got 3 cordless DeWalt grinders that are beasts, and 4 corded all different brands, Al set up differently, I took one of the DeWalt grinders took the 4 screws out of the head and spin the head 90° reinstalled the screws and made a special handle and turn it in to a dedicated disc cutter, totally bad ass.
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Dang, X Lock is a crazy cool feature.
Just noticed the flat-head DeWalt competition in store the other day. Figured M18 wasn't far behind
Dewalt has had it out for a couple of years now
@@loucifer323 oops. But I did only say I noticed it, then again I try to look past the yellow
I love my cordless tools and use them often, but I will still continue to use so many corded tools. We really need to step back and realize we're being hoodwinked into paying 2 to3 times more for a tool because it's cordless and then pay outrageous prices for batteries that are essentially consumables. Also, the influencers make damn sure they condition you with their testing to abuse these batteries and run them to empty, instead of actually caring for their potential longevity by not running them empty. 290 bucks for a grinder is nuts. 220 for a grinder is nuts. I rehab old homes and we run grinders to death. We run them 8 hours a day and there's no way cordless will do that, even with multiple batteries because of all the BS electronics in the tool. Then again, you're also going to destroy a grinder that even at its cheapest is probably double the 60 dollar Bosch and Makita models we use. Sorry, I'm just not letting myself get my lip hooked.
I've had my milwaukee fuel grinder for over 8 years. Dropped it off lift booms, drowned it, and it still works like a charm
I have some 6.0 😍. Yeah they don’t want to release the Patton. But I like the grinders 😍🥰
@vcg that flathead is killer.
Need the grinder in slim design with variable speed!
Really don't care about the x-lock, but it's nice that Milwaukee has finally came out with a variable speed fuel grinder. Will they also do this with there larger grinders. Inquiring minds want to know. 👷🤔
Hi Eric, why do you care so much about the variable speed? Normally, I use the tool at the highest speed.
@@pingpang9350 personally I have been waiting for it because I work in tile, and require a variable speed grinder for polishing cut edges
I will defenitly be picking up 1 of each of these grinders nice to see the variable speed option I'm a paddle switch kinda guy I do have a few switch style grinders don't use them as much good informative video Vince
I want one too mate a must have for tiling. Where are you getting yours from as I live in Australia it is hard for me to get stuff locally
@@chrismetcalfe1029 I ordered mine from acme tools I live in the states I can't imagine how hard it is to get things in Australia
From what I have researched I believe Bosch has a patent till 2027. So until the patent runs out milwaukee and dewalt etc won't have access to the technology. Really want dewalt to come out with cordless xlock grinder.
well i know that cause i got a one-key grinder for myself last week 😁 even though i don't really need it
Yo Vince! Merry Christmas! 😁✌
Merry Christmas to you and your Dave, thanks for everything! 👍🏻
Merry Chrismas
Merry Christmas to you and yours Cuz!👍🏻
That doesn’t make any sense because makita has xlok on their grinders. Why would Bosch give it to one company but not another?
Because milwakee sucks 😂
If that’s true about Bosch not licensing xlock then tti/Milwaukee needs to innovate a solution on their own maybe that is comparable with traditional disks but somehow faster and easier and just as safe as a spaner wrench. Come on big red cough up the dough for xlock or innovate or don’t sell as many high priced grinders as you could. Anyone I know that has a makita xlock cordless or corded loves the speed, ease and simplicity of it.
Good powertools but no enough money to buy this powertools.
New Grinders from Milwaukee Tool are Missing One Key Feature!
clicks on video
proceeds to watch 4 minutes of advertisement for Milwaukee to learn they don't have X-Lock
Deals at lowes on flex rn it’s what’s next !!
Milwaukee makes a much better set of safety glasses. The glass is one piece
Thx seems kinda expensive 🤔
Go Vince!
As a metalworker I wouldn't ever buy a grinder that doesn't take standard disks. The disks are (high quantity) consumables and I rather keep them as simple (cheap) as possible. The limited range of them would also mean that I would need regular grinders either way.
We change grinders when we need to use another disk and only change them when they wear out so it really doesn't improve the workflow at all.
10-4 good buddy.
I was actually thinking that since FLEX couldn't get it and now Milwaukee doesn't have it that it must be a feature Bosch is keeping exclusive to them. Like their combo hex/wrench connector. Hopefully they can figure out a feature to compete if it is the case down the road
Makita has it
The feature I’d have liked to see is a battery cut off so you can’t accidentally run the grinder or flick the switch between uses. Obv long term you want to take the battery out, but if you just set it down for 30 mins, I don’t want the thing to be basically live for any random idiot to injure themself with
Vince…..call your boys at Craftsman and ask what’s up with Craftsman Brushless RP that’s starting to pop up.
Still not nothing on DeWalts 60v grinders.
Anger grinders!
You da man Vince.
Come on Milwaukee where's the X Lock? 😤
Be nice if the offered the option to change the locking mechanism somehow
You do realize that the x lock is patented
I've worked in the field for decades.... Toughen up buttercup. I can change a disc pretty fast, but I wouldn't trade in my Milwaukee tools because they don't have X lock. Milwaukee tools make up the difference working all day, all week, all year. Trying to make up 5 seconds 4 times a day? You need to get out in the field.
Does X lock make a speed loader tool belt? That way you wouldn't waste 20 seconds walking to your toolbox to grab another disc? Get real
@@edpoints1127 Where Xlock really shines is you are working on a piece, you clamp it down to cut something off. Now you can immediately switch disk so you dont have cut everything first. This is why most guys have multiple grinders but now you can have one grinder that does everything.
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The entire first four minutes of this video is basically just all an advertisement for Milwaukee, skip to 3:55 to get to the actual point of the title.
Not giving a "full thumbs down", only half a thumbs down for not explaining what the X-lock feature is for the folks who don't know. I had to google it.
How much coffee do you drink before recording? 🙂
Maybe Milwaukee doesn't want to pay the royalties for the patented technology. Would you pay extra if they passed this extra cost to the consumer by charging more?
Makita pays it. Its sad to see that flat head grinder with no xlock
@@will8649 Makita owns the patent 😂
@@CybekCusal Robert Bosch GmbH owns the patent
@@will8649 oh I thought Bosch owned Makita but I just looked it up and i guess not
where is my Milwaukee M18 Roofing Nailer Milwaukee?
Is Bosch allowing other Manufacturers to use X-Lock license free, that is big in determining mass adoption.
Don’t care about x lock. I’ll grab a second grinder. Plus they don’t make all the discs for that. I want Milwaukee to get paddle switch with locking ability. I have yet to get this because of that. My old ryobi has it and i refuse to switch that single tool because i love it. Also love how the handle rotates but i could live without it.
Not a fan of paddle switches. Didn't see a safety switch.
X Lock are over priced for someone who is not on the clock. I rarely use anything but flapper disks. I have two Milwaukee and Makita I got as part of the Home Depot free bare tool Christmas special.
x lock is great
I enjoy this videos a lot but you should show some videos of you and the guys doing some actual work
Can you please look at and/or review the Flex Rotary Hammer? Thing is a ghost on here. The reviews ive seen are all fake or paid, and the only videos are from flex
"Only' Full angle grinder range, cough "Metabo"
X-LOCK 🙌🏻 Makita
That makes no sense, why would Bosch refuse to license it to Milwaukee. Milwaukee/TTI would have to pay Bosch, that is why they haven’t adopted it. Milwaukee is going to wait for the patent to expire in another 13 years or so and then they will adopt it because their parent company TTI, dictates what Milwaukee can and cannot do.
Xlock is cool but I mean I doesn't make a difference really
Are those prescription lenses? If not, why are are wearing safety goggles???
I don't know anyone who would want x-lock. Looking at the system it's going to make for more expensive discs and introduce potential reliability issues. Then, of course, you now have a dependency on a locking system which is going to limit the disc options available to you. There's no reason you couldn't skirt their patent and utilize a simple system that would work on normal discs -- the reality, though, is any type of locking mechanism on something that is rotating that kind of mass at those kinds of speeds... you will simply have an inferior product. You're talking about guys who are running grinders for hours -- 20 seconds to change a disc isn't exactly the thing I'm worried about.
Cats in backgrund xd
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I do not believe Milwaukee wants to use xlock. First there are more blades out there on the market with the standard nut So this means more cost effective for the user when buying blades. The xlock feature is ok for someone not using a grinder all day every day. But the standard nut lock system has more choices from blade manufacturers. Speaking from someone in the industrial power industry that buys hundreds of grinders a year. And thousands of blades. The xlock does not interest me from cost on the consumables side of the tool
I find it funny that no matter what anyone comes out with someone will always find something wrong with it. I see this all the time with camera manufacturers and their “loyalists” always have something to find that would make the camera the “perfect” tool. The reality is understanding the tools limitations and capabilities for the application is what really matters. If you can’t figure out a way to make it work for your application then you have no business doing the job in the first place.
X lock is dumb!!! The special disks are hard to find. Not worth the hassle for the extra 5 to 10 seconds it takes to change normal disk out!!!
I don't see a need for vary speed. Dewalt grinders seem to be better in ergonomics and performance. Dewalt safety switches are the best. Paddle is the worst. Milwaukee performance trips out even on a 6 or 12 amph. There may be a reason Dewalt has not gone bigger than 7 inch even at 60v. I have both red and yellow. Red 9 inch is okay for small jobs.
First you say come on milwaukee what's the deal why you missing this feature. Then you say that you believe that bosch has the market cornered so you pretty much seem to be blaming milwaukee than contradicting yourself...😂
I don't use onekey
Could not care less about One-Key ....
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Don't care about x lock one bit.