DIY tutorial on how to make a hog wire or utility panel fence using a dado.
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- We received a quote for $8,000 to fence in our backyard, so I took the task on myself. We wanted an open, hog wire style fence. I decided a dado groove/picture frame method would be the easiest route to take for construction. I constructed most "picture frames" ahead of time so installation only took 2 days. You can use this method with any rigid wire panel (hog wire, horse wire). This method was great for our irregularly shaped and sloped backyard. Overall, this fence was a fun learning experience!
I am inspired by you Abbie, and I just got a bid of 7000 for a 350 ft fence. I think I want to try this myself. I am a hearty 68 yrs old woman who likes a challenge. Thanks for the encouragement great job
You can do it! The right tools make it super easy. It's crazy how expensive fences cost!
How did it go!?
There are several ways to do hogwire panels. You need to know the local building codes for height requirements if it is for a deck or stair rail but a simple fence is much easier. I get my panels at the local TSC (Tractor Supply Company) in our area. You want the ones that do not have the graduated holes. The holes should all be about 4 inches on a side.
One way is to build a cedar or pine square frame the size of the space between the upright posts. You then cut that frame in half lengthwise. You then lay one side of the panel on the hogwire and trace out the most even spacing of the hogwire squares. Ideally you will not have any points. You the cut out the panel to fit closely onto one half of your wood panel frame. when a wire crosses the panel frame put a tick mark on both sides. Use a large bore drill bit the diameter of the wire to create a channel for the wire to drop into. Do this for all the crossing points. When done set the panel into the frame half. apply glue to the frame of the other panel half and set them together and clamp (I recommend Titebond). When the glue dries, drill some holes and set on a support block between upright posts so it aligns with the top of the posts. Install screws into the sides of the frame into the posts.
350ft nowadays about 15000 for a cedar privacy and about 11000 for this style
@@thelostarchivesserialvault5353 why not the graduated holes?
I appreciate how you didn't over engineer the project. You kept it at a weekend warrior level for most common folks like me. Thanks to you and your dad! Great job
Thanks Bobby!
You are one brave soul 🙂 I stay away from those table saws. Thanks for sharing your video.
After watching several fence-building tutorials, I was ready to give up. Then I found your video here. Thank you for stopping your work to provide explanations. You are a great teacher AND fence-builder!
Overall helpful instructional video. The idea to clamp on the other side of your rip fence to stabilize it was very smart. It's critical that the rip fence remain solid while you're cutting. But, never sandwich your work piece between the rip fence and a clamped board. It can cause the work piece to bind, and will increase the likelihood of kickback which can lead to serious injury. Also, use some sort of pusher to put distance between the blades and your hand. Your hand passes over that dado stack repeatedly. Anything goes wrong, and..... Well. Not to put too fine of a point on it, but run a google search for table saw injuries.
To add to this comment, look up the use of a featherboard. You can make one yourself with a scrap piece of wood.
I gasped when I saw her do that..
Yikes! I will be more careful in the future. I definitely don’t want to lose fingers. Thanks for the helpful pointers.
I showed my wife your video. She said you did a wonderful job. Beautiful fence ma'am! I will be using the panels in front of my house. Thanks.
Very nice job. Sometimes a quote or two from a company is all the motivation we need to do it ourselves ;) I especially like your gate build. Besides being a talented builder, it’s nice to see someone who obviously looks after their fitness level.
You're a fine example of what can be done if you simply try. I enjoyed your video, and am building a similar fence soon. Thanks Abbie.
Thanks for putting your video online. I used it a lot as a reference while I was making my own hogwire fence. Great job!
Girlfriend, you rocked this! I hate, absolutely hate when ppl just cheaply tack on hogwire or any wire onto fence posts using staples and call it done 🤦🏻♀️ It looks so tacky and lazy! Yours is finished, clean, and far stronger! The only change I’d personally have made is ensuring all fence panels, on all four sides had the flat bar or finished edges running across rather than the individual wires poking into the dados, however that’s my personal preference and probably not necessary. Your dog can now harass any living creature without dying in the woods which is great. You’ll have to keep us updated as to how it wares over time but I’m impressed with you and your Dad doing the work and putting in the effort that it takes to build such a magnificent fence ;) 🤟🏽
I agree with you about cutting the wire to fit. It would be a little more expensive to have to buy 10’ pieces and cut all of them instead of 8’ pieces. But i think the end product would look more finished.
I have owned a CRAFTSMAN table saw like that for about 30 years and I also had to take the safeties off of it like you did. That table saw is also not made for a DADO blade and is not safe to use one in it but with that said I also use a DADO blade in mine. To hell with safety!!! We are old school. (The DADO blade is too wide for the nut to fully screw on to the bolt that attached the blade. My nut only goes on about half the width of the nut) Now there are other brands that are safe to use and designed for DADO blades but CRAFTSMAN specifically states in the instructions not to use a DADO blade but who reads those? Now I know women don't read them like men or they read them and simply ignore them? Great video by the way I hope you make more of them.
Geez
Call it parallel thinking.. my fence is nearly identical to yours. I wish I had found this before starting my project, would have saved me lots of grief. Excellent work!
Thank you. Like so many other women who are unsure of building.....I appreciate your simple step by step explanation. I have been seriously thinking of making a fence for a few years but lacked the confidence and skill. You gave me the support to try!
Good luck!!
I am very impressed with your organization and execution! Great tips and instruction. I have watched this video several times.
Not to be a "one-upper", but I just got a quote for $9950 for the same fence (without any slopes and in easy digging ground). You saved big money! Nice job. Your video was very helpful. Thanks!
Fences are so darn pricey!!
I've never left a youtube comment before but like THANK YOU so much for this. Most thorough video on this I've found and I've watched many. Wow, seriously, your kindness is beyond.
Thank you Joana!
Nice work. I’m gonna run a wire fence in the backside of my privacy fence. Thanks for your post
Wow I love that compared to sandwiching the wire between two boards, thanks for the idea!
Richard C. Mongler thanks!!!
Me too, I was looking at someone else’s design and they wound up having, I think SIX horizontal boards per section.
Thanks for your video! I just finished my fence today and referenced this video everyday!
good tip on leaving the bottom and top wires longer to help keep the panels in place!
Man your Dad is RAD! Fence looks great, congrats! OH, and hi to Maggie!
Thankyou!! Maggie says Hi back!
Super cool ! I am building a similar but very different fence. Your build is very helpful !
You did a great job on this! Mine is done exactly the same way! It looks great when it's done and everyone in your neighborhood is going to ask you for the info. Thats why i uploaded my video as well.
Yours is awesome!! Love the look of hogwire!
One the best how to videos I have seen! 🤟🏼
Loved your video! It inspired me to be able to do it myself. I hope to show pictures of my own. Thanks for being a role model.
Have been trying to figure out how to get the wood fence look with hog wire fence. Great job!! Can’t wait to do my really long fence this way :)
Loved the tutorial! Finally someone that explained it to me step by step. Only thing I wish you had is a link to all the products. But great job!
If that is treated wood for the dado boards you will want to apply some sealer on the newly cut channels and drill several weep holes for each panel so water can drain out. It's better to build three sides of the panels and set them on the fence then insert the panel so you can custom cut the panels. Last you just drop the top frame part on. Cut the support fence posts flush, apply sealer then install the top rail.
Yes, I was thinking the bottom channels needed weep holes. I like your other tips as well.
Awesome video. You’ve a marvelous technique in talking us through each step. Nice job. You’ve earned my subscription!
This video is simply amazing…I am attempting to do a much smaller version this weekend. Thank you for the helpful tips :)
Great video. I'm building a fence for my vegetable garden. This was really helpful!
Beautiful fence, beautiful pup! 😍😍
Great video ms abbie! You should definitely make more videos. Im a small channel too and havent made a video in a while . But you seem to have a knack for it ! Great work on the fence and video! Definitely gave me some good ideas
tip- instead of using that type of drill use a impact drill driver with star bit instead of the cross type screws. You will rarely strip the screw
Nice work, we are looking at doing something similar so your experience is helpful.
Thank you so much you made it easy to understand. I definitely will do this type of fence in my front yard.
Good luck!
I did something very similar but i dint use dattos. Instead I cut off the perimeter wire and drilled holes for the wire to go into. 🙂
Thanks, Abbie!! Great job!!!
Thank you! That is gorgeous!!!
Castle of Costa Mesa thank you!!
Great looking fence!
Excellent looking fence!
If you were to cut one of the small squares off the top of the panel, you could have used 2x4x8. Your sides would be roughly 44 1/2 inches. Just a way of saving some money.
Great job! I would caution however cutting a dado into any treated lumber as you will expose raw wood to the elements. If you do, I'd recommend treating the exposed cut section before assembly...... especially if you live in a wet/moist climate.
Wise words. Even if treated, the dado will hold water and cause premature failure. These fences look great but do have a dramatically shorter life when exposed to weather
I'd be concerned about rain water sitting in the lower frame dado, which would eventually rust the galvanized metal and rot the treated wood. What do you think about drilling some 1/2-in drain holes into the lower frame dado?
Great video! Thanks for this, I need to build a similar fence for our house.
Good Job. Thanks for sharing
excellent video, looking to do the same at my house.
Really nice job . Thanks for sharing
Thank you
Great job! You are an inspiration!
I like the idea of doing it yourself. But wouldn't it be easier to staple the fencing to the frame and if you don't want the edges to be visible you could have covered it with 1/4" trim? It just seems like a lot of work for each panel.
Great video I'm currently gathering materials to do mine. Leaving your van right next to a sharp end wire was driving me nuts though lol. Also, cutting the vertical wire leaving the horizontal wires loose with the wood expanding and contracting I'm afraid will come out of the dado. I'm just gonna make my panels as so I don't have to cut them
jose munoz I’m so glad you’re building one too! I hope it’s smooth sailing. There are definitely other ways to cut the panels but I didn’t feel like cutting a bunch of 2*4*10s down to fit an uncut panel. I think the panels are in there tight enough to not pop out but only time will tell ::fingers crossed:: Good luck!!
jose munoz and no cars were harmed in the making of this video 😂😂
Thank you. Very doable
Finished mine and I've been getting lots of requests to do my neighbors, which of course Isaid heck no!!! I did mine to be different lol. The only issue is that due to the wood expanding and contracting, normal wood behavior, a couple have bowed. I'm planning to add another vertical piece right down the middle to also add stability. I'll stain mine in about 4 weeks with a dark color
jose munoz awesome!! I’m sure it will look beautiful after staining!
Hell ya, thanks!
On point! nice job!
Great video. Well thought out and put together great. It sounds as if your white drill is in hammer drill mode. Just an fyi
Imagine how her father feels watching her wife record instead of help.
I love the look of this! I run a daycare and I want to fence in my backyard, but hate the idea of loss of light from a tall cedar fence. I am wondering how this would hold up to children? Thoughts, anyone?
Kelly LaMore Hi Kelly! I have 2 young children and I have to admit, they like to try to climb it. I’m not sure it’s a great choice for a daycare fence. One option would be to put two 12” kickboards across the base and start the hogwire fencing up higher so they can’t step into the rungs of the hogwire.
Real nice tip at 6:00
The problem with cutting those groves is that rainwater will gather and rot out the bottom board??
Nic very well explain
How much did it cost you in the end ? Thank you for such a great video from a single mid age woman who just bought her first home and needs to fence in a large space . I cant afford to hire help but I have my 26 year old son and this seems do able
Great job but I will say when you cut the wire , the main bar off that bar strengthens that corner... hopefully all will still work out.
This is a great resource for people who are looking to build a fence on their own, thank you for making this! Can I ask what gauge the hog wire panels were? Thank you!
Thanks for the great video! Very helpful and easy to understand. did you use the 2x10 kickers because of the irregularities of your yard, for aesthetics, rigidity? I have a fairly flat yard and wondering if i can just use the panels themselves.
My woodshop instructor always told us to never set up a second fence like that as it can cause the wood to bind and really kick.
A feather board would be better.
At 16:50 I noticed that you pushed the 4x4 posts toward the hog wire frame. Shouldn't your post have already been level? And if it's not, wouldn't you have the same problem when you attach your next frame to the other side of the post (as you'd then run into issues with the next frame not being aligned with the post AND it's already attached to another frame...)
Can the dado be smaller? like barely bigger than the thickness of the wire so it fits more snug? seems like those cute ends of the panel are barely in there
Nice
Question…..I want to do this on my deck. What gauge wire do I need to use to meet code ?
Also , where is a good source for 4x4” wire fencing ?
Great job... I'm thinking this is how I'll do my own.
Do you know what gauge the wire fencing you used is?
Thanks
Pocket holes will keep you from blowing out your wood and make the connections much stronger. Also, if you put three of the sides together on the frames you should be able to slide the wire right in.
Omg - pulling the wood on the table saw. 😳
Thank you for the video! I have a thought. Is it ok to install the panels without the bottom kickboard? Why did you include the kickboard? Thank you!
I think it would be fine without the kickboard. We did it to add height to keep the dog in!
What size dado blade, 8” or 10” ?
? You cut the width 3/8 and depth 1/2 ?
Abbie How has the fence held up this far? Just curious, I will be using this method for a customer.
Вы молодец! :)
Question: why not Dado pressure treated posts?
Great video thanks for the upload!
Hmmm I guess you could do that too? You’d still need the bottom and too support ledges though. And make sure you don’t dado the part that goes underground!
good job.. check the setting on your drill you shouldnt need the rockdrill or hammer drill setting for wood screws. thats for masonry,,;)
I tried it without the hammer setting and I had a tough time getting into the treated wood. The hammer setting makes it easier for me 🤷🏻♀️
Mind sharing what kind of wood did you use? And did you stain/treat it or anything? Great video
I used pressure treated wood from lowes. No stain or additional treatment!
Do you have to have a kick board
What size take saw were you using? Did you happen to use an 8" dado blade on a 10" saw? It's hard to find a 10" dado that isn't incredibly expensive!
How many panels did you make and what’s the total cost of a fence like that great job!!!
I made 12 large panels, 2 smaller panels, and a gate. Final cost was ~1200$, but I already had most of the tools needed on hand. Buying all of the tools would significantly increase the cost.
How deep the Dado groove? 1/2 inch?
I'm making a rose trellis using your framing idea. Tractor Supply here only has the combo feedlot panels with narrow spacing on the bottom two courses (or along one side were it to hang vertically.) I will try using re-mesh and if the re-mesh gets too rusty or turns out to be too wobbly, I'll still be able to cut off the narrow courses of the combo panels and cut the frame down to fit. Any suggestions?
What kind of wood is that please
Can you tell me what gauge hog wire you used? Looks great.
I want to say 16 gauge but I honestly don’t remember! It was from Tractor Supply
Will the cattle panel get pushed out with enough force ,
I guess if you push hard enough for the metal to bow - like driving a truck through it? My kids climb all over it and it’s structurally sound.
Drink every time she says dado
What kind of post and wood did you use? I see it has the holes within the wood.
It is pressure treated pine. The little marks are from the pressure treating! It gives the pines a reddish color.
Where did you get this pressure treated pine? I can’t seem to find this exact kind at hardware stores.
Also, are the posts of the Same Material? They look like cedar.
Great instructional video on how to make the panels. But, need to work on saw safety. Never put your hand over the blade, and don't wear gloves.
Where did you buy the wires mesh? and wood?
The wire mesh was from Tractor Supply but I’ve also seen it available at Coastal stores. Wood was from lowes.
What kind of wood did you use?
Pressure treated
How tall is this? And how big is your yard?
The picture frames with the hogwire are only 4ish feet tall, the kickboard at the bottom adds 8", then my husband strung runs of wire for the remaining 2' of height. So it's over 6' tall with all of our add-ons. You could do a 12" kickboard at the bottom and have a 5' fence without the wire run across the top.
The fence is around 120' long.
Wood is very expensive
She likes saying Dado alot ...but the term is dato
audio is bad, cant hear your voice.