Thank you for sharing this, I appreciate the depth for how little time it took to watch. I recently took the plunge and bought a gallon of perfumers alcohol, and a smattering of a couple dozen aroma chemicals. This was one I bought a "significant" amount of at the recommendation of some file I saved ages ago.
You can use whatever works when making a perfume. I believe there is such a thing as using too many fixatives in a perfume which can have the opposite effect but I don't see anything wrong in using a sandalwood molecule with Hedione. Lots of things are fixatives. If you're are happy with your perfume that's all that matters.
Does the grossman accord work in in masculine compositions, or does it give a bit of a 'white floral musk' feeling which is so common? Interested to see what has an effect on people, which led me to researching Aventus. Mixed information but it seems like they used Helvetolide 12%, Cetalox 9%, Ambrettolide 2%, ambergris, oakmoss, patchouli, Damascone, Hedione, Iso-E Super. Not fully sure.
The Grossman accord is extremely feminine because of the methyl Ionone. You can easily have Iso E Super, Hedione and Galaxolide in a masculine frag. I would call these three molecule's a general base to put in most perfumes. I'm not one of these people who is anosmic to Iso E Super, but in a blend I don't detect it as a note though I can tell that it's in there. It will help the projection and longevity though this is not always enough as you have to do other things as well. I often look at Iso E Super as a dilutant and a disinfectant, so to speak. I put at least 10 drops into every fragrance but say your base notes are too harsh or your base is too dense, Iso E Super will thin the base out and clean it up at the same time. You can add too much, I think, but in the same vein it's also forgiving. Galaxolide is a versatile musk and unisex in a fragrance. It has a very clean smell and will also help other oils to last longer on the skin. Hedione will lift your heart notes and florals, but Methyl Ionone is extremely feminine and hard to mask. You can always play around with ratios and experiment. I don't like the smell of the violet ionones. I much prefer other violet molecules.
@@scentuality3377 Very interesting about Grossman accord being feminine, I thought it might be a dumb question but now I’m glad I asked! In terms of fixatives, it seems Sandalwood as a base is masculine, versatile and creamy, and a more pleasing layer than many of those detergent like white musks. From research it seems HERCOLYN D + FIXATIVE 505 both are solid and versatile for the base, with L LIMONINE 65 and GLUCAN P 20 to fix the top/citrus part. Apparently ISO E is more of blender than a fixative… (didn’t know this). Curious to check out HYRAX as a fixative too. Apparently too many fixatives can flatten a composition too… Curious to ask you, do Aldehydes and hedoine interact with fixatives, affecting how they project out?
@@scentybeast9531 I never look too much into the science of it all, again I think it's subjective. Every perfume is different. You're always using different materials which will always react differently. I can say good things about Fixative 505. When I used this the first time I could instantly tell that it was responsible for added longevity to my perfumes. It's a nice Amber note in a 10% dilution. It doesn't have much of a smell at full strength. It's creamy like Ambroxan/Ambroxide but also has a little ambergris bite as well. You really have to experiment. I bought a blend from perfumers world called PWX Factor. "It is an odour enhancer, it increases odour life, adds depth, radiance and has a maturation effect to perfume compounds and essential oils. Increases substantivity on the skin, paper and cloth. "MSG for perfume". The 13th note that every perfume needs to be complete. The X factor." I added some to a citrus blend which it completely flattened out and had the opposite effect on, but when I added it to another perfume it worked, so, every perfume is different and every perfume requires a different approach in my opinion. Benzyl Benzoate can be used in the same way.
@@scentuality3377 Nice one. I’ll look into all of those. Yeh was just looking into the science to get a handle on it before investing loads of cash and time. I’m totally new to all this. How long have you been doing this? You’ve built up tons of knowledge, and have a good way of communicating it. Was looking at the Grosjman accord again, would say I’ll avoid the Galaxolide and methyl Ionone and might go with Iso E Super and Hedione combined with sandalwood as a starting point for many of the frags. Then can compare the other compounds/fixatives to that. Actually after a little research many options/directions are opening up. You’re right about this feeling like a kind of alchemy. Looking forward to starting
@@scentybeast9531 Galaxolide is worthwhile material to have. Check out this thread. www.basenotes.net/threads/374134-Re-List-of-100-Aromachemicals I've been making perfume for about a year and a half. I'm a practical person. I learn everything by doing so before I pick up a book I spend along time just trying to figure out stuff on my own by feeling my way around and using as much of my intuition as I can, but that's just me. There's no right or wrong way, many roads lead to Rome. Enjoy your journey and have fun making perfume!
Thank you for sharing this, I appreciate the depth for how little time it took to watch. I recently took the plunge and bought a gallon of perfumers alcohol, and a smattering of a couple dozen aroma chemicals. This was one I bought a "significant" amount of at the recommendation of some file I saved ages ago.
Can we use hedione and sandela both as fixative in Jasmine flavour perfume?
You can use whatever works when making a perfume. I believe there is such a thing as using too many fixatives in a perfume which can have the opposite effect but I don't see anything wrong in using a sandalwood molecule with Hedione. Lots of things are fixatives. If you're are happy with your perfume that's all that matters.
Does the grossman accord work in in masculine compositions, or does it give a bit of a 'white floral musk' feeling which is so common? Interested to see what has an effect on people, which led me to researching Aventus. Mixed information but it seems like they used Helvetolide 12%, Cetalox 9%, Ambrettolide 2%, ambergris, oakmoss, patchouli, Damascone, Hedione, Iso-E Super. Not fully sure.
The Grossman accord is extremely feminine because of the methyl Ionone. You can easily have Iso E Super, Hedione and Galaxolide in a masculine frag. I would call these three molecule's a general base to put in most perfumes. I'm not one of these people who is anosmic to Iso E Super, but in a blend I don't detect it as a note though I can tell that it's in there. It will help the projection and longevity though this is not always enough as you have to do other things as well. I often look at Iso E Super as a dilutant and a disinfectant, so to speak. I put at least 10 drops into every fragrance but say your base notes are too harsh or your base is too dense, Iso E Super will thin the base out and clean it up at the same time. You can add too much, I think, but in the same vein it's also forgiving. Galaxolide is a versatile musk and unisex in a fragrance. It has a very clean smell and will also help other oils to last longer on the skin. Hedione will lift your heart notes and florals, but Methyl Ionone is extremely feminine and hard to mask. You can always play around with ratios and experiment. I don't like the smell of the violet ionones. I much prefer other violet molecules.
@@scentuality3377 Very interesting about Grossman accord being feminine, I thought it might be a dumb question but now I’m glad I asked! In terms of fixatives, it seems Sandalwood as a base is masculine, versatile and creamy, and a more pleasing layer than many of those detergent like white musks. From research it seems HERCOLYN D + FIXATIVE 505 both are solid and versatile for the base, with L LIMONINE 65 and GLUCAN P 20 to fix the top/citrus part. Apparently ISO E is more of blender than a fixative… (didn’t know this). Curious to check out HYRAX as a fixative too. Apparently too many fixatives can flatten a composition too… Curious to ask you, do Aldehydes and hedoine interact with fixatives, affecting how they project out?
@@scentybeast9531 I never look too much into the science of it all, again I think it's subjective. Every perfume is different. You're always using different materials which will always react differently. I can say good things about Fixative 505. When I used this the first time I could instantly tell that it was responsible for added longevity to my perfumes. It's a nice Amber note in a 10% dilution. It doesn't have much of a smell at full strength. It's creamy like Ambroxan/Ambroxide but also has a little ambergris bite as well. You really have to experiment. I bought a blend from perfumers world called PWX Factor. "It is an odour enhancer, it increases odour life, adds depth, radiance and has a maturation effect to perfume compounds and essential oils. Increases substantivity on the skin, paper and cloth. "MSG for perfume". The 13th note that every perfume needs to be complete. The X factor." I added some to a citrus blend which it completely flattened out and had the opposite effect on, but when I added it to another perfume it worked, so, every perfume is different and every perfume requires a different approach in my opinion. Benzyl Benzoate can be used in the same way.
@@scentuality3377 Nice one. I’ll look into all of those. Yeh was just looking into the science to get a handle on it before investing loads of cash and time. I’m totally new to all this. How long have you been doing this? You’ve built up tons of knowledge, and have a good way of communicating it.
Was looking at the Grosjman accord again, would say I’ll avoid the Galaxolide and methyl Ionone and might go with Iso E Super and Hedione combined with sandalwood as a starting point for many of the frags. Then can compare the other compounds/fixatives to that. Actually after a little research many options/directions are opening up. You’re right about this feeling like a kind of alchemy. Looking forward to starting
@@scentybeast9531 Galaxolide is worthwhile material to have. Check out this thread.
www.basenotes.net/threads/374134-Re-List-of-100-Aromachemicals
I've been making perfume for about a year and a half. I'm a practical person. I learn everything by doing so before I pick up a book I spend along time just trying to figure out stuff on my own by feeling my way around and using as much of my intuition as I can, but that's just me. There's no right or wrong way, many roads lead to Rome. Enjoy your journey and have fun making perfume!
Hi , do you have an email or any contact information ? I wanted to ask a few questions , thank you.
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